reminder of the rules

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
"#4 False Source"...Do you have any suggestions?

There's
False Authority (the authority claimed is no qualified, the Pope on Tire Pressure)
Appeal to Authority (pretending because Einstein says it you don't have to defend it)
False (the information is wrong)

I guess I would think "False Source" might be a good title for a spoofed website. Something pretending to be CNN but it's really a spam site.

It's not the best title.

Into the Night wrote:
Since the True Scotsman fallacy is just a particular kind of false authority fallacy, I lump it under Mantra 4. However, I will add another one:

28) Speaking for others.

I do not number bulverism. I spell it out each time. I also do not number 'bigotry' or 'racism' or 'lie', due to the short nature of these words and the egregious nature of these fallacies.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:I'd suggest that you stop playing the "woe is me" victim card,...

Not that at all.

tmiddles wrote:
It is dishonest what ITN, you and IBD are doing.

tmiddles wrote:
I will continue to point that out.

tmiddles wrote:
ITN is a shameless liar with his RQAA

tmiddles wrote:
It's simply crapping on the board with meaningless characters.

tmiddles wrote:
No one but ITN cares about his fallacy parade

tmiddles wrote:
as most of it is incomprehensible.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:A lot of the "popular definitions" of fallacies that you will run into online are incomplete....

You make my point for me. So put a listing here of what YOU mean when YOU say something.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
ITN has already provided you with the definitions that you have requested.

That is a lie.

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
Why don't you make a list.

To make a list of what ITN means when he says something I would need his participation. I don't have it.

gfm7175 wrote:
Nope. The truth is not a lie.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
Nope. The truth is not a lie.

you say when according to you a simple link would prove me wrong.

Simply not plausible that ITN would pass on proving me wrong.

"RQAA" is a fraud

tmiddles wrote:
...deleted Mantras 4...5...27...

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sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

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sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

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Discuss

sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

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Swan wrote:

sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

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Define genuine substance

squeal over wrote:I don't play definition word games.

squeal over wrote:"Genuine substance" means what you probably imagine it most likely means.

squeal over wrote:The definition word game BS is just to PREVENT debate, not engage in it.

squeal over wrote:There is certainly not enough dishonesty in the "provide the definitions" games. Eff 'em.

sealover wrote:
I don't play definition word games.

sealover wrote:
"Genuine substance" means what you probably imagine it most likely means.

sealover wrote:
The definition word game BS is just to PREVENT debate, not engage in it.

sealover wrote:
There is certainly no "honesty" displayed in the definition word games. Eff 'em.

sealover wrote:
I don't play definition word games.

"Genuine substance" means what you probably imagine it most likely means.

The definition word game BS is just to PREVENT debate, not engage in it.

There is certainly no "honesty" displayed in the definition word games. Eff 'em.

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Swan wrote:

sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

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Define genuine substance

Swan wrote:

sealover wrote:
I don't play definition word games.

"Genuine substance" means what you probably imagine it most likely means.

The definition word game BS is just to PREVENT debate, not engage in it.

There is certainly no "honesty" displayed in the definition word games. Eff 'em.

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Swan wrote:

sealover wrote:
Spot, you were absolutely right.

The two most active users should have been banned at least seven years ago.

Spot, please come back and give the site another try.

There is some genuine substance being discussed finally.

By summer, you'll want to tell your friends about it.

sealover

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spot wrote:

1) Stay inside the scope
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3) Use the Search machine
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Define genuine substance

Are you the person who gets to determine what is genuine, making the opinions of others trash?

duncan61 wrote:ITN why do you get to decide what is a buzzword.

duncan61 wrote:Any one who writes RQAA is an ahole as it infers you know everything

duncan61 wrote:I have my opinions based on real life experience.

duncan61 wrote:I have posted I did year 10 high school then went to trade school.

duncan61 wrote:I have been asking and getting questions answered for 3 years.

duncan61 wrote:You have given a great example of how you focus on one word

duncan61 wrote: ... then start insulting.

duncan61 wrote:I am happy to be at the kiddies table.

duncan61 wrote:The sun is shining on this wonderful Autumn day.

duncan61 wrote:The sea is full of fish and stuff which I can not be bothered harvesting.

duncan61 wrote:Last weekend I went to the farm area I shoot in Waroona and my .222 Ruger is still in zero and I loosed a few through the 7mm Sendero just for fun

duncan61 wrote:A question. How many posters have left this forum because of you and how many because of me?

duncan61 wrote:
ITN why do you get to decide what is a buzzword.

duncan61 wrote:
Any one who writes RQAA is an ahole as it infers you know everything and are not to be questioned yet you write [you are not king]This would be unacceptable anywhere but on a internet debate forum.Serious

duncan61 wrote:
.Duncans definition of [genuine substance].The 30 cans of full strength beer I have just Purchased

duncan61 wrote:
And now we move on to substance abuse

duncan61 wrote:
I have my opinions based on real life experience.

duncan61 wrote:
I have posted I did year 10 high school then went to trade school.

duncan61 wrote:
I have been asking and getting questions answered for 3 years.

duncan61 wrote:
You have given a great example of how you focus on one word then start insulting.

duncan61 wrote:
I am happy to be at the kiddies table.

duncan61 wrote:
The sun is shining on this wonderful Autumn day.The sea is full of fish and stuff which I can not be bothered harvesting.Last weekend I went to the farm area I shoot in Waroona and my .222 Ruger is still in zero and I loosed a few through the 7mm Sendero just for fun.

duncan61 wrote:
A question. How many posters have left this forum because of you and how many because of me?

duncan61 wrote:
I looked up buzzword and it is actually a buzzword its self.We are not permitted to use google on this forum but I am happy with the definition I found.

IBdaMann wrote:

For the last two years on this site you have been a total ashsole to those who tried to help you. Meanwhile you assist every dishonest fuqq who comes to this site to preach physics violations by playing front-row teacher's pet and then pretending to denigrate those who add science to the discussion. \

One would think that you, of all people, would avoid throwing around criticisms when you yourself are as stupid as a half-inch hex bolt ... but NOOOOO, you feel obligated to regurgitate whatever your fellow "thienth geniuth" role-player is ordering you to say. You never learned anything and you resent those who actually got an education. I'm thinking that instead of trying to help you, everybody should just marvel at how stupid you are and point out every single idiocy for public discussion. If you aren't going to contribute positively and instead are going to insult those who are discussing topics you can't grasp then perhaps we should make you the center of discussion.

I'm just going to mock the schytt out of you. At least I'll be entertained rather than frustrated.

Let's roll!

You just gave a good example of how you don't understand anything that you read, making others wonder how you manage to wander through life. I discuss entire concepts and you are only capable of digesting those examples that center on a single word. Multiple words exceed your understanding. And now, of the many hundreds of my posts upon which your gaze has befallen, you can only recall ... one word ... and you now conclude that all that time I must have "focused" only on that word.

You are dim.


I can see that you are happy at the kids' table, because now you have squeal over there as well and finally you have someone with whom to play "thienth geniuth".

What did I write?

sealover wrote:
Besides, they never even LIKED college anyway!

GretaGroupie wrote:Stress relief is so important, and I had a master degree in that!

IBdaMann wrote:
Acts 11:29 - Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:

GretaGroupie wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
Acts 11:29 - Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:

OK, the fishy thing over the groin (not reposting) is a little suggestive. This ain't Grindr.

AFTERTHOUGHT: but the megaphone is cool!

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's a Jesus fish...

GretaGroupie wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's a Jesus fish...

Yeah but Jesus that fish looks like a thing!

IBdaMann wrote:

GretaGroupie wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's a Jesus fish...

Yeah but Jesus that fish looks like a thing!

.

Im a BM wrote:Is this about Christianity? Is there a message to be understood?

IBdaMann wrote:

the prof turned me onto yes too (got it again!!)

GretaGroupie wrote:Okay I get it. But you put it right over the macho trolls boy thingy.

IBdaMann wrote:
I don't know that trolls have "boy thingies". Do you?

GretaGroupie wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
I don't know that trolls have "boy thingies". Do you?

How do you think they make baby trolls?

IBdaMann wrote:
Enlighten me. This presumes there are such things as "baby trolls." I have never seen one.