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11-04-2021 20:27
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
I've seen a lot of gravity wheel designs, and they all pretty much fail for the same reason. They need a very careful, and precise balance, just to give any hope of working, when spun up. Usually the tools and materials used are the blame, as an excuse, and a plea for funding.

Gravity is effecting every part of your wheel, at the same time. Doesn't matter where you place the weights. You have 4 weights, but only on doing the work, to move the other 3, and the rest of the wheel. It's simply that you can't get more out, than you put into it. The best you can hope for, is that it spins an impressive while. Any load you add, to get meaningful work, will shorten the spin time, and you have to add more energy to keep it spinning.

Have considered, how many people devote their entire lives to physics, mechanics, machining? We have some very impressive tools. NASA has provided us with a lot of materials, not even dreamed of 50 years ago. We have computer programs to analyze pretty much anything, some even free to download. Whether some of these professionals, have the free energy bug, or just as a fun hobby, none have ever perfected any perpetual motion machine. Gravity wheels, are just one of many schemes, people have pursued, to get something, for nothing.



All you're stating is an opinion. And now you're faulting me for working through severe medical hardship? What happened to "there's always a work around"?
In the US, I am no one that matters. The 3rd Reich invaded Norway so maybe I'll invade Germany? Of course making a part of their history known and possibly working with them on some different things some might not say is an invasion. Since I'm not German it will be a 1 person invasion. Of course Professor Pöschl knows that I'd like scientists from 2 other countries to be involved.
And if it's done "my way" then I am an invading force.
Gotta have some fun in life, right?
11-04-2021 22:42
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
I've seen a lot of gravity wheel designs, and they all pretty much fail for the same reason. They need a very careful, and precise balance, just to give any hope of working, when spun up. Usually the tools and materials used are the blame, as an excuse, and a plea for funding.

Gravity is effecting every part of your wheel, at the same time. Doesn't matter where you place the weights. You have 4 weights, but only on doing the work, to move the other 3, and the rest of the wheel. It's simply that you can't get more out, than you put into it. The best you can hope for, is that it spins an impressive while. Any load you add, to get meaningful work, will shorten the spin time, and you have to add more energy to keep it spinning.

Have considered, how many people devote their entire lives to physics, mechanics, machining? We have some very impressive tools. NASA has provided us with a lot of materials, not even dreamed of 50 years ago. We have computer programs to analyze pretty much anything, some even free to download. Whether some of these professionals, have the free energy bug, or just as a fun hobby, none have ever perfected any perpetual motion machine. Gravity wheels, are just one of many schemes, people have pursued, to get something, for nothing.



All you're stating is an opinion. And now you're faulting me for working through severe medical hardship? What happened to "there's always a work around"?
In the US, I am no one that matters. The 3rd Reich invaded Norway so maybe I'll invade Germany? Of course making a part of their history known and possibly working with them on some different things some might not say is an invasion. Since I'm not German it will be a 1 person invasion. Of course Professor Pöschl knows that I'd like scientists from 2 other countries to be involved.
And if it's done "my way" then I am an invading force.
Gotta have some fun in life, right?


Nope, perpetual motion machine have interested me since I was very young. I've read quite a bit on the subject over the decades. Interesting obsession, and stories, but none have succeeded. Sort of like watching a magician perform. Part of the fun, is trying to figure out how the illusions are done.
11-04-2021 23:35
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
I've seen a lot of gravity wheel designs, and they all pretty much fail for the same reason. They need a very careful, and precise balance, just to give any hope of working, when spun up. Usually the tools and materials used are the blame, as an excuse, and a plea for funding.

Gravity is effecting every part of your wheel, at the same time. Doesn't matter where you place the weights. You have 4 weights, but only on doing the work, to move the other 3, and the rest of the wheel. It's simply that you can't get more out, than you put into it. The best you can hope for, is that it spins an impressive while. Any load you add, to get meaningful work, will shorten the spin time, and you have to add more energy to keep it spinning.

Have considered, how many people devote their entire lives to physics, mechanics, machining? We have some very impressive tools. NASA has provided us with a lot of materials, not even dreamed of 50 years ago. We have computer programs to analyze pretty much anything, some even free to download. Whether some of these professionals, have the free energy bug, or just as a fun hobby, none have ever perfected any perpetual motion machine. Gravity wheels, are just one of many schemes, people have pursued, to get something, for nothing.



All you're stating is an opinion. And now you're faulting me for working through severe medical hardship? What happened to "there's always a work around"?
In the US, I am no one that matters. The 3rd Reich invaded Norway so maybe I'll invade Germany? Of course making a part of their history known and possibly working with them on some different things some might not say is an invasion. Since I'm not German it will be a 1 person invasion. Of course Professor Pöschl knows that I'd like scientists from 2 other countries to be involved.
And if it's done "my way" then I am an invading force.
Gotta have some fun in life, right?


Nope, perpetual motion machine have interested me since I was very young. I've read quite a bit on the subject over the decades. Interesting obsession, and stories, but none have succeeded. Sort of like watching a magician perform. Part of the fun, is trying to figure out how the illusions are done.



And I thought magic was when
1
-------....= cotØ
tanØ

if you don't get it, just multiply both the numerator and the denominator by the inverse of the denominator. Then the answer becomes obvious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM
Edited on 11-04-2021 23:38
13-04-2021 22:23
Xadoman
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I started to install internal cladding. I am going to use the same boards as outside.


14-04-2021 19:53
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Xadoman wrote:
I started to install internal cladding. I am going to use the same boards as outside.


I bookmarked the website where you share your images from. I always have issues with the websites that I use.
With what you're doing, are you insulating or plan on having a source of heat? Granted maybe only necessary in the morning but if you install a magazine rack for your favorite periodicals, it might be a thought.
14-04-2021 20:25
Xadoman
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James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I started to install internal cladding. I am going to use the same boards as outside.


I bookmarked the website where you share your images from. I always have issues with the websites that I use.
With what you're doing, are you insulating or plan on having a source of heat? Granted maybe only necessary in the morning but if you install a magazine rack for your favorite periodicals, it might be a thought.


No insulation. The little board of rigid foam seen on the picture is used when I sit on the small chair. It is still quite cold outside.
14-04-2021 22:01
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Xadoman wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I started to install internal cladding. I am going to use the same boards as outside.


I bookmarked the website where you share your images from. I always have issues with the websites that I use.
With what you're doing, are you insulating or plan on having a source of heat? Granted maybe only necessary in the morning but if you install a magazine rack for your favorite periodicals, it might be a thought.


No insulation. The little board of rigid foam seen on the picture is used when I sit on the small chair. It is still quite cold outside.

Once you get the inner paneling put in, there IS a bit of insulation due to the trapped air between the panels in the wall. Not much, but it's there. Of course, that only make any kind of difference if there is some source of heat in the structure and the structure can be closed (like a door put in place, which I assume you will want for a bit of privacy anyway).


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15-04-2021 00:12
James___
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Xadoman wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I started to install internal cladding. I am going to use the same boards as outside.


I bookmarked the website where you share your images from. I always have issues with the websites that I use.
With what you're doing, are you insulating or plan on having a source of heat? Granted maybe only necessary in the morning but if you install a magazine rack for your favorite periodicals, it might be a thought.


No insulation. The little board of rigid foam seen on the picture is used when I sit on the small chair. It is still quite cold outside.



If you have electricity to your facility, you might consider a heat lamp. Infrared is directional heat. Something like this would help to keep you warm without a heater. [url]https://www.qcsupply.com/260014-12-infrared-heavy-duty-hard-glass-heat-bulbs-175-watt.html [/url]
15-04-2021 00:16
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Considering his neighbor craps in the bushes... Guessing it would be 'that' cold, and not intend for a sleep over. If you are that drunk, comfort isn't going to matter that much anyway. (Kentucky guest house?)

What sort of flooring are you planning? Some sort of tile, probably most practical. Not everyone hits the target, then there is the bottle-flu season. Need to consider occasionally scrubbing it out good.
15-04-2021 09:11
Xadoman
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I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.
15-04-2021 11:35
Xadoman
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Then, you have friction, and a few other unavoidables.


This comment made me to want to share some pictures how important the friction could be in some cases to hold up structures. About 15 years ago I started to build a dry stacked fieldstone wall using the flat faced stones from the old collapsed fieldstone barn. My mistake at first was that I did not tapered the walls. I made them to be almost 90 degrees vertical. Later in the process I started to taper them because I was concerned about the stability of the walls. 15 years later, the first section of the wall is starting to collapse but I am amazed how the friction holds up the wall. Here are some pictures of the wall and the critical area:




Edited on 15-04-2021 11:41
15-04-2021 17:55
James___
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Xadoman wrote:
I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.


How do you go skiing? The best snow is at about -4º C. I've been outside when it's cold and know that without the wind, it's easier to tolerate. Still, with a heat lamp, it only heats what it is pointed towards. This is here a solar panel and a battery might allow you to be a little more comfortable.
16-04-2021 09:05
Xadoman
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James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.


How do you go skiing? The best snow is at about -4º C. I've been outside when it's cold and know that without the wind, it's easier to tolerate. Still, with a heat lamp, it only heats what it is pointed towards. This is here a solar panel and a battery might allow you to be a little more comfortable.


I do not remember when I last time went to skiing. I have a lake nearby and I like to skate but I also do not remember when I last time went to skating. I swim but only when the water is over 25+ degrees celsius. Unfortunately the summers have been quite cold lately and I can not swim as much as I would like to.

When it comes to solar panels and batteries I have made my desicion not to use them. I just in principle hate the solar scam. I have the electricity in the household so if needed I could just install a cable into the ground and electrify the outhouse without problems. The thing I worry the most is the ventilation. I am not sure how good the ventilation is going to be with an 8 inch pipe and a whirlybird. I also worrie about frost heave in winter and therefore I was looking for a way to shut down the ventilation in the winter because too much ventilation could suck the heat out of the pit and the frost could reach under the slab and cause a lot of trouble. Therefore for ventilation I ordered a chimney pipe that has a butterfly valve to shut down the air flow but I noticed that there still is a small gap in the valve to allow a little bit of air flow.

Those are the pipes( 20 cm or 8 inch diameter ) stainless steel :


This is the butterfly valve, notice the gap between the valve and pipe wall:

Edited on 16-04-2021 09:19
16-04-2021 17:25
James___
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Xadoman wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.


How do you go skiing? The best snow is at about -4º C. I've been outside when it's cold and know that without the wind, it's easier to tolerate. Still, with a heat lamp, it only heats what it is pointed towards. This is here a solar panel and a battery might allow you to be a little more comfortable.


I do not remember when I last time went to skiing. I have a lake nearby and I like to skate but I also do not remember when I last time went to skating. I swim but only when the water is over 25+ degrees celsius. Unfortunately the summers have been quite cold lately and I can not swim as much as I would like to.

When it comes to solar panels and batteries I have made my desicion not to use them. I just in principle hate the solar scam. I have the electricity in the household so if needed I could just install a cable into the ground and electrify the outhouse without problems. The thing I worry the most is the ventilation. I am not sure how good the ventilation is going to be with an 8 inch pipe and a whirlybird. I also worrie about frost heave in winter and therefore I was looking for a way to shut down the ventilation in the winter because too much ventilation could suck the heat out of the pit and the frost could reach under the slab and cause a lot of trouble. Therefore for ventilation I ordered a chimney pipe that has a butterfly valve to shut down the air flow but I noticed that there still is a small gap in the valve to allow a little bit of air flow.




What might be a unique idea is to burn the methane as it's generated. A candle in the vent would work or a filament that has a small amount of current running through it. I think you know the second one, a thin wire placed across both the positive and negative battery posts will have it glowing red.
I think it would be difficult to accumulate enough methane for it to become explosive. And with either method, even if operated for only 30 minutes a day, that should be enough to burn off any undesirable fumes.
Of course if you had a timer, even a mechanical one, opening and closing the door could start it and then it could run for 10 or 15 minutes before stopping current to a filament. Then you wouldn't need to worry about it.
When I lived along the Columbia River in Washington state, in the summer I'd go swimming in water that was about 16º C. Maybe you meant outside temperature?
18-04-2021 20:40
Xadoman
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I made the frame for the inside wall today. I will leave a little slot in the wall for stockpiling loo roll.

18-04-2021 23:45
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James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.


How do you go skiing? The best snow is at about -4º C. I've been outside when it's cold and know that without the wind, it's easier to tolerate. Still, with a heat lamp, it only heats what it is pointed towards. This is here a solar panel and a battery might allow you to be a little more comfortable.


I do not remember when I last time went to skiing. I have a lake nearby and I like to skate but I also do not remember when I last time went to skating. I swim but only when the water is over 25+ degrees celsius. Unfortunately the summers have been quite cold lately and I can not swim as much as I would like to.

When it comes to solar panels and batteries I have made my desicion not to use them. I just in principle hate the solar scam. I have the electricity in the household so if needed I could just install a cable into the ground and electrify the outhouse without problems. The thing I worry the most is the ventilation. I am not sure how good the ventilation is going to be with an 8 inch pipe and a whirlybird. I also worrie about frost heave in winter and therefore I was looking for a way to shut down the ventilation in the winter because too much ventilation could suck the heat out of the pit and the frost could reach under the slab and cause a lot of trouble. Therefore for ventilation I ordered a chimney pipe that has a butterfly valve to shut down the air flow but I noticed that there still is a small gap in the valve to allow a little bit of air flow.




What might be a unique idea is to burn the methane as it's generated. A candle in the vent would work or a filament that has a small amount of current running through it. I think you know the second one, a thin wire placed across both the positive and negative battery posts will have it glowing red.
I think it would be difficult to accumulate enough methane for it to become explosive. And with either method, even if operated for only 30 minutes a day, that should be enough to burn off any undesirable fumes.
Of course if you had a timer, even a mechanical one, opening and closing the door could start it and then it could run for 10 or 15 minutes before stopping current to a filament. Then you wouldn't need to worry about it.
When I lived along the Columbia River in Washington state, in the summer I'd go swimming in water that was about 16º C. Maybe you meant outside temperature?


Why bother burning the methane? Either way, you a producing 'greenhouse' gasses... As a side-note, you would have to pass a hell of a lot of current, through Ni-chrome wire, to reach the flashpoint of methane. Been a long time since I took a look, but Ni-Chrome has a temperature limit, where it will melt, and break. Don't think it's used for gasses. Usually a high voltage arc...

Venting any gas, is probably the best option, since it would also carry out water vapor, and anything else you wouldn't want to accumulate. Heating the outhouse, would promote mold, mildew, and bacteria growth. Besides, if it's warm in there, other people would be in such a hurry to finish their 'business'. Maybe others, where a tree, just won't do it...
19-04-2021 16:16
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
James___ wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
I do not care about heat much because I have lived half of my life using a cold outhouse even in the winter with -30 dergrees celsius.
For flooring I planned to let it be plain concrete. A concrete guy who made the floor of my garage recommended some kind of product to use on the garage floor that leaves a nice shiny finish and makes concrete not to absorb oils etc.


How do you go skiing? The best snow is at about -4º C. I've been outside when it's cold and know that without the wind, it's easier to tolerate. Still, with a heat lamp, it only heats what it is pointed towards. This is here a solar panel and a battery might allow you to be a little more comfortable.


I do not remember when I last time went to skiing. I have a lake nearby and I like to skate but I also do not remember when I last time went to skating. I swim but only when the water is over 25+ degrees celsius. Unfortunately the summers have been quite cold lately and I can not swim as much as I would like to.

When it comes to solar panels and batteries I have made my desicion not to use them. I just in principle hate the solar scam. I have the electricity in the household so if needed I could just install a cable into the ground and electrify the outhouse without problems. The thing I worry the most is the ventilation. I am not sure how good the ventilation is going to be with an 8 inch pipe and a whirlybird. I also worrie about frost heave in winter and therefore I was looking for a way to shut down the ventilation in the winter because too much ventilation could suck the heat out of the pit and the frost could reach under the slab and cause a lot of trouble. Therefore for ventilation I ordered a chimney pipe that has a butterfly valve to shut down the air flow but I noticed that there still is a small gap in the valve to allow a little bit of air flow.




What might be a unique idea is to burn the methane as it's generated. A candle in the vent would work or a filament that has a small amount of current running through it. I think you know the second one, a thin wire placed across both the positive and negative battery posts will have it glowing red.
I think it would be difficult to accumulate enough methane for it to become explosive. And with either method, even if operated for only 30 minutes a day, that should be enough to burn off any undesirable fumes.
Of course if you had a timer, even a mechanical one, opening and closing the door could start it and then it could run for 10 or 15 minutes before stopping current to a filament. Then you wouldn't need to worry about it.
When I lived along the Columbia River in Washington state, in the summer I'd go swimming in water that was about 16º C. Maybe you meant outside temperature?


Why bother burning the methane? Either way, you a producing 'greenhouse' gasses... As a side-note, you would have to pass a hell of a lot of current, through Ni-chrome wire, to reach the flashpoint of methane. Been a long time since I took a look, but Ni-Chrome has a temperature limit, where it will melt, and break. Don't think it's used for gasses. Usually a high voltage arc...

Venting any gas, is probably the best option, since it would also carry out water vapor, and anything else you wouldn't want to accumulate. Heating the outhouse, would promote mold, mildew, and bacteria growth. Besides, if it's warm in there, other people would be in such a hurry to finish their 'business'. Maybe others, where a tree, just won't do it...



Candles burn methane and the flame of a candle is 1/2 of methane's burns at.
You're confusing when methane burns on its own. And a filament that is glowing red will be about the same temperature as a candle. Have to omit details because of your limited knowledge in both science and math.
19-04-2021 18:11
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*forgot to put what in front of methane burns at,
18-06-2021 19:15
Xadoman
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As many of you might already know, I started to invest heavily into cryptocurrencies and almost every free penny has been and also is going to be spent on buying the dip. Therefore things are going quite slow with the project at the moment. As suspected it is going to be a lot of trouble to find suitable pass-throughs for the ventilation pipes. I have already bought two type of pass-throughs and although on the pictures they look nice, the real life installation is not possible as shown on the pictures. I have contacted some guys who do the tinwork but everybody is very busy at the moment and simply have no time to do the work for me. So I can not finish the roof at the backside in the nearest future. I made some pictures today to show how the summer has taken over here.





19-06-2021 03:49
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That is some serious vent pipes.Is that to a building code.In W.A. you can have 30 fixture units on a 50mm vent.Pans are 6 fixture units and a normal house will not go over 30 if it does you now go to a 80mm vent and can have 300 units
19-06-2021 07:09
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duncan61 wrote:
That is some serious vent pipes.Is that to a building code.In W.A. you can have 30 fixture units on a 50mm vent.Pans are 6 fixture units and a normal house will not go over 30 if it does you now go to a 80mm vent and can have 300 units


Little different for an outhouse... Hazardous fumes. Specially if there is a Taco Bell short drive down the road...
20-07-2021 20:02
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Few pictures of the paint job. I chose greene as was planned.


20-07-2021 21:07
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Xadoman wrote:
Few pictures of the paint job. I chose greene as was planned.



You're definitely making progress!
22-07-2021 02:42
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Xadoman wrote:
Few pictures of the paint job. I chose greene as was planned.




Kind of has me thinking the South Pacific.
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