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05-01-2017 02:01
GasGuzzler
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Ms. Litebeer

No secret I disagree with nearly everything you say, but when you make a point I give due diligence and research it.

I find nothing on "excess AGW energy" and suspect you just pulled this out your backside. I thought it was all about heat trapped by C02and a half. Please explain.
05-01-2017 04:50
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" guffed: I disagree with nearly everything you say...


Using science, it is easy to disagree with "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr", who is proud to have no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in a non-existent hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
05-01-2017 04:57
GasGuzzler
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sure whatever....now what the hell is excess AGW energy.

At least give me the link you copied and pasted.
05-01-2017 18:05
litesong
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.."AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" gushed:...what the hell is excess AGW energy.

People similarly named to "AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" didn't, don't & won't know what "excess AGW energy" is.
05-01-2017 18:12
GasGuzzler
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litesong wrote:
.."AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" gushed:...what the hell is excess AGW energy.

People similarly named to "AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" didn't, don't & won't know what "excess AGW energy" is.


Uh Huh....I believe it is the methane that was dislodged from your backside when you pulled out the phrase excess AGW energy . So yes, you have now convinced me that methane is a contributor to warming the planet. I am no longer a denier.
05-01-2017 18:28
litesong
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Seven minutes after me. "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" can ALMOST pounce, despite its age, sickness & sleepiness.
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05-01-2017 18:36
GasGuzzler
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No apologies for being well connected, laptop, wifi in the truck, alarms go off whenever you post. I'm here for ya Ms. Litebeer...Always here for ya.
05-01-2017 22:11
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litesong wrote:
.."AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" gushed:...what the hell is excess AGW energy.

People similarly named to "AGW denier liar whiner gasguzlr & gazmuflr" didn't, don't & won't know what "excess AGW energy" is.


His question is very reasonable;

What is excess AGW energy?

The answer is that there is (supposededly) an energy inbalance due to the heat trapping effect of additional CO2 in the air.

This is sometimes called the forcing value although the term forcing generally applies to the temperature rise due to the additional energy.

Obviously if you knew the very basics of this subject area you would be able to explain this easily.

Preaching away and insulting people when you so clearly know nothing at all must be extremely embarassing.
05-01-2017 23:58
litesong
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Tim the plumber wrote: supposededly(sic)... inbalance(sic)....insulting people.....embarassing (sic)


Calling people old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiners, when they are old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiners, is being accurate, NOT insulting. All yer embarrassing mispelinks are supposedly... an inbalance, while imsulting.
Edited on 06-01-2017 00:23
11-01-2017 00:31
litesong
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Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for January 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~23,300 cubic kilometers. Present January 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~13,100 cubic kilometers, ~ 10,200 cubic kilometers LESS than the 1980-89 average for January 1. Tho the winter usually shows a percent narrowing between recent Arctic sea ice VOLUME years & averages for the 1980's, the difference of ~ 10,200 cubic kilometers (44%) is a great leap downward for 2016, consistent with horrible increases in Arctic atmospheric temperatures & Earth ocean temperatures.
AGW denier liar whiners, who have predicted a global ice age for decade(s?), have to get back to the monthly average Arctic sea ice Volumes of the 1980's before they crow. With the Arctic sea ice consistently widening from the 1980's, AGW denier liar whiners will only be able to croaky caw, instead of crow, fer many a decade... (centuries?).
11-01-2017 02:02
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Past posts from another website plus updates:
on May 13, 2016
litesong:
The Arctic has been over temperature for ~ 135 straight days. Of those days, 100 straight days were no less than 3degC over average, with numerous days over 10degC. over average. Another time the Arctic was over temperature for 140 days, with temperatures as high as 16degC over normal. No period in the last 58 years can show "balancing temperatures" even 1degC below average temperatures for even half those number of days.

.... compared to the 1980's with less AGW excess energy effect in the biosphere:
Present Arctic sea ice extent is Alaska+ sized in total sea ice losses(1.82+ million KM2). Like 2015, the 2016 Arctic sea waters have set themselves up to absorb much excess AGW predicted solar energy, while the sun is at its approaching maximum elevation in the sky(now 6arcdeg from highest). Any downwellings in those clear Alaskan plus sized waters, will transport excess AGW solar absorbed energy directly downward to Arctic continental shelves or into deeper Arctic waters, for storage.... energies that had not been available previously to the Earth. It has also been determined that excess solar energy can be absorbed through thin AGW generated ice when the sun is at its highest elevations in the Arctic....even more energy stored in Arctic waters.
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For 9+ years the solar TSI has been well below average(including a 3+ year low period breaking a 100 year record). For many years, toxic AGW denier liar whiners have declared an ice age.
But Earth has not returned to early 20th century low temperatures. For 373+ months Earth temperatures have been over the 20th century average. The first decade of the 21st century has been the hottest recorded decade, also including the 20th & 19th century recorded temperatures. The last five years have been the hottest 5 year recorded period, including the 21st, 20th, & 19th centuries. 2014 & 2015 has been the hottest recorded successive years, including the 21st, 20th, & 19th centuries. The last 12 straight months has set record highs for all those months. All this, while solar TSI is low, which science says is only a blip low. For billions of years, the sun has continued to warm & will continue to warm.
Further data:
Between 1979 & 2000, only one year had ANY daily Arctic sea ice AS low as the same date sea ice of ALL of the year 2015 AND to date 2016. And those DAYS were only two or three consecutive of that year.
Indeed, not even Arctic sea ice days, which can be high or low, can bridge the break between the Arctic of the old & the unstable Arctic of the new.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~30,800 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2016 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~22,150 cubic kilometers, ~ 8650 cubic kilometers LESS than the 1980-89 average for May 1.
On January 1, average Arctic sea ice extent for the 1980's was 14.52 million KM2. Like 2015, 2016 Arctic sea ice did not reach 14 million square kilometers. Indeed, 3 months of Arctic sea ice freezing has disappeared!!
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on January 5, 2017
litesong
Further data:
The final tally of straight days of over average High Arctic temperatures ended at 150+ days, as summer & direct solar energy illuminated the High Arctic. As fall began & direct solar radiation stopped on the High Arctic, almost 4 million square kilometers began over-average temperatures. Presently, 125+ straight days have registered over temperatures. During this period, temperatures hit 20degC over average, then reduced & later hit 16degC over average. After the stunning over temperatures, I began calling these periods of over-temperatures, the High Arctic Berserker. This.... HAB is presently 10degC over temperature, with good expectations to go to 150+ days over temperature. I would not consider it impossible if over temperature High Arctic conditions stretched to 200 straight days. Indeed, these conditions of over average High Arctic temperatures during periods of little to no direct solar radiation are becoming the norm. The surprise is when High Arctic temperatures ARE AVERAGE.
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on January 11, 2017
litesong
Update for Arctic sea ice VOLUME: Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for January 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~23,300 cubic kilometers. January 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 13,100 cubic kilometers, ~ 10,200 cubic kilometers LESS than the 1980-89 average for April 1.
11-01-2017 02:36
GasGuzzler
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Why do you compare Jan 1 2017 with April 1 Averages?
11-01-2017 17:41
litesong
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gasguzzler wrote: Why do you compare Jan 1 2017 with April 1 Averages?

Thank you for reading. I didn't compare. I liked the past post from earlier 2016, so repeated it here & added a bit of new data from the beginning of 2017.
Edited on 11-01-2017 17:41
11-01-2017 18:06
litesong
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More bits of data: The present High Arctic Berserker has extended its over-temperature period to ~ 125+ straight days. If not for 1 questionable day, the HAB would be ~ 135 straight days. 150 straight days are lined up in the sights of the HAB & 200 straight days are NOT out of the realm of possibility. Repeating..... these conditions of over average High Arctic temperatures during periods of little to no direct solar radiation are becoming the norm. The surprise is when High Arctic temperatures ARE AVERAGE.
Edited on 11-01-2017 18:10
13-01-2017 05:22
litesong
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New information on Arctic sea ice thickness & how dramatic the one Present High Arctic Berserker (PHAB-FAB?) has effected Arctic sea ice:
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2017/01/piomas-january-2017.html#more
From the article:
Yes, average thickness is actually lowest on record as well...... This year, volume record low, extent record low, and so average thickness record low. On average, 2016 is 20 cm thinner than 2015. That's a lot of ice.
14-01-2017 00:46
litesong
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litesong wrote: Present High Arctic Berserker (PHAB-FAB?) has effected Arctic sea ice: On average, 2016 is 20 cm thinner than 2015.

With considerations that the High Arctic covers almost 4 million square kilometers, the Present High Arctic Berserker (PHAB or FAB?) has helped decrease Arctic sea ice by 760 cubic kilometers in its 125+ to 135+ days of existence. The energy to melt this quantity of ice is double the annual energy consumption of the U.S. The PHAB or FAB has continually driven latter 2016 & early 2017 to its lowest to date sea ice coverage...EVER. Present Arctic sea ice is 400,000 square kilometers LESS to date than ANY YEAR in the satellite records. For almost 2.5 straight months in 2016 & 2017, Arctic sea ice has been lower than any other to date period in the satellite record.
Edited on 14-01-2017 00:49
14-01-2017 19:02
litesong
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The Present High Arctic Berserker (PHAB or FAB?) seems to be idling about 8degC above average. But even with the PHAB (FAB ) at idle, the present 2017 Arctic sea ice (already at a record to date low) appears to be "LOSING" ice, & now is 500,000+ square kilometers BELOW any other to date year. The 2017 Arctic sea ice is increasing its chances that its sea ice maximum will remain below 14 million square kilometers, becoming the third year IN A ROW to remain under the mark, as NO OTHER YEAR BEFORE 2015 HAS EVER DONE IN THE SATELLITE RECORD. Considering that the solar TSI has been languid & even low for 10 years (including a 3+ year period setting a 100 year low record), the Arctic sea ice is NOT gaining in quantity, as the solar TSI low should allow. The excess AGW energy, caused by excess man-made GHGs in the atmosphere is having its way.
14-01-2017 20:35
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litesong wrote:
the present 2017 Arctic sea ice (already at a record to date low) appears to be "LOSING" ice


How can it be losing ice??? These are current temps within the hour. Come on, sea ice freezes at around 28F. This is some cold stuff right now. Lot of -35 -40s. Where are you getting your info? I'd like to see it too.

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14-01-2017 22:41
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GasGuzzler wrote:
litesong wrote:
the present 2017 Arctic sea ice (already at a record to date low) appears to be "LOSING" ice


How can it be losing ice??? These are current temps within the hour. Come on, sea ice freezes at around 28F. This is some cold stuff right now. Lot of -35 -40s. Where are you getting your info? I'd like to see it too.

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Litebeer has been making his 'data' up for years. He dutifully keeps posting it though, as though as ship with a fixed rudder. Nothing will deflect him from his course.


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14-01-2017 23:56
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GasGuzzler wrote:
litesong wrote:
the present 2017 Arctic sea ice (already at a record to date low) appears to be "LOSING" ice

How can it be losing ice??? These are current temps within the hour.

While you look at atmospheric temperatures & say how can the sea ice be going down, many actual sea ice extent determinations do show total sea ice reductions. Often, there are short-term January sea ice extent reductions. Temporary warm water intrusions in lower latitude arctic & sub-arctic waters can peal off lots of thin ice, even in the winter.
Yeah, better look at present sea surface water temps:
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#SST
Edited on 15-01-2017 00:03
15-01-2017 00:20
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Litebeer has been making his 'data' up for years.

Lots of Arctic sea ice determinations show temporary 2017 sea ice reductions, you dumb son of a bitch.
15-01-2017 00:23
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At my house water freezes when the air gets cold...pretty cool stuff.
15-01-2017 00:49
litesong
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GasGuzzler wrote: At my house water freezes when the air gets cold...pretty cool stuff.

Hard for thin ice NOT to melt when water under it, is 2degC to 4+degC.
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#SST
15-01-2017 19:36
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litesong wrote:Hard for thin ice NOT to melt when water under it, is 2degC to 4+degC.

Yeah, Arctic sea ice on Jan. 14, was lower than on Jan. 5, quite a time span in truth. Ah, present 2017 Arctic sea ice is 570,000 square kilometers less than any other to date year. Much more truth than the lies of AGW denier liar whiners.
Edited on 15-01-2017 19:59
15-01-2017 20:20
litesong
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https://sites.google.com/site/pettitclimategraphs/sea-ice-extent#asieds
Here's a good Arctic sea ice chart showing the continuing sea ice loss by decade. I remember well, the old sick silly sleepy AGW denier liar whiners crowing how 2013 was really showing the return to an ice age, that old sick silly sleepy AGW denier liar whiners had been predicting for 10+ years previous to 2013. As the chart easily shows, the supposed ice age return has been totally overwhelmed by the "2010- 2016" continuing excess AGW energy ice loss decrease. The "2013 ice age return" didn't even need a full decade to disappear in the continuing Arctic sea ice loss. Let's hear the old sick silly sleepy AGW denier liar whiners, whine!
Oh, yeah. The 2017 Arctic sea ice loss......continues big time!
Edited on 15-01-2017 20:22
17-01-2017 04:30
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14-1-2017
litesong wrote:The 2017 Arctic sea ice is increasing its chances that its sea ice maximum will remain below 14 million square kilometers, becoming the third year IN A ROW to remain under the mark, as NO OTHER YEAR BEFORE 2015 HAS EVER DONE IN THE SATELLITE RECORD.

More data that 2017 Arctic sea ice maximum has a very good chance of remaining under 14 million square kilometers..... for the 3rd year in a row..... & NOT done by any year previous to 2015 in the satellite record.
http://iwantsomeproof.com/extimg/sie_projections_from_current_date.png

From projections made from many other years, it appears that 2017 has a good chance of setting the yearly Arctic sea ice minimum maximum.
Edited on 17-01-2017 04:44
17-01-2017 06:04
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Presently, 2017 Arctic sea ice extent is 2.06 million square kilometers LESS than the average to date sea ice extent of 1980's decade. The Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FA
is 10degC over average High Arctic temperature.
Edited on 17-01-2017 06:25
17-01-2017 22:26
litesong
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litesong wrote: Presently, 2017 Arctic sea ice extent is 2.06 million square kilometers LESS than the average to date sea ice extent of 1980's decade. The Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
is 10degC over average High Arctic temperature.

Oh, oh! the Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, just jumped up to 14degC over its "average" temperature AND has been over-temperature for 127 to 140 straight days. At ~ 65 straight days, I said it could reach 150 straight days & weeks ago, said it could go to 200 straight days.
Yeah, heatin' up on the High Arctic & Canada. Cold in Alaska, tho.
http://pamola.um.maine.edu/fcst_frames/GFS-025deg/5-day/GFS-025deg_ARC-LEA_T2_anom_5-day.png
Edited on 17-01-2017 22:59
18-01-2017 19:31
litesong
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litesong wrote:
...the Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, just jumped up to 14degC over its "average" temperature.... Cold in Alaska, tho.

Yeah, while the High Arctic heats up, excess AGW energy pushes Arctic cold to Alaska, where some terrains are colder than -50deg.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/weather/2017/01/18/50-below-recorded-in-interior-as-cold-snap-settles-on-alaska/
19-01-2017 14:32
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
...the Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, just jumped up to 14degC over its "average" temperature.... Cold in Alaska, tho.

Yeah, while the High Arctic heats up, excess AGW energy pushes Arctic cold to Alaska, where some terrains are colder than -50deg.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/weather/2017/01/18/50-below-recorded-in-interior-as-cold-snap-settles-on-alaska/

With many Earth temperatures above & the High Arctic way above average, Arctic cold had pushed south to Alaska..... & now settles deep on Alaska. From the Seattle Times, "Fifty-nine below on Front Street in Tanana, Alaska, south of the Arctic Circle," Cythia Erickson said, laughing. "It's just miserable. I hate everybody who lives in a warm place."
Actually, it had been just as cold a day earlier, at a lower latitude, but higher elevation.
Edited on 19-01-2017 15:23
19-01-2017 17:51
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litesong wrote: It is good that "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann" ID's with racist sexist xenophobic non-sigh-ants followers (including the always small letters kkk) of racist sexist xenophobic non-sigh-ants billionaire T-rump, who will be led around by racist sexist(?) xenophobic Put-it-in, who will REALLY unleash the old kgb (always small letters) remnants.

Gee, "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann" been gone fer a while. Hope its just on vacation...or sumpin'. Didn't mean to get it in trouble with T-rump, fer NOT doin' enuf. Or worse, with Put-it-in... & the kgb (always small letters).
Sh-sh-sh. I hear the kgb (always small letters) is takin' out British citizens in England, now.... maybe american citizens in america, too! Put-it-in, ya know.... has $85 billion to spend, since he raped russia of its natural assets & suppressed other russians.
Edited on 19-01-2017 17:58
20-01-2017 00:43
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote: It is good that "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann" ID's with racist sexist xenophobic non-sigh-ants followers (including the always small letters kkk) of racist sexist xenophobic non-sigh-ants billionaire T-rump, who will be led around by racist sexist(?) xenophobic Put-it-in, who will REALLY unleash the old kgb (always small letters) remnants.

Gee, "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann" been gone fer a while. Hope its just on vacation...or sumpin'. Didn't mean to get it in trouble with T-rump, fer NOT doin' enuf. Or worse, with Put-it-in... & the kgb (always small letters).
Sh-sh-sh. I hear the kgb (always small letters) is takin' out British citizens in England, now.... maybe american citizens in america, too! Put-it-in, ya know.... has $85 billion to spend, since he raped russia of its natural assets & suppressed other russians.


Nah. IBDaMann and I are still here. We just both realize that nothing will deflect your rigid course of daily posting fake data.


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20-01-2017 01:08
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"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed:... your rigid course of daily posting fake data.

Ah... ya don' belieft Put-it-in stole $85 billion from russian resources & suppressed other russian competition. Lots of AGW denier liar whiners comin' forward to defend Uncle Put-it-in. Put-it-in even puts-it-in a lot of americans.
Edited on 20-01-2017 01:08
20-01-2017 17:27
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed:your rigid course of daily posting fake data.


"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" don' belieft that present Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 10,000 cubic kilometers LESS than the average VOLUME of the 1980's decade.
20-01-2017 17:30
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"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed:your rigid course of daily posting fake data.


"old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" don' belieft that the last 3 years have been the hottest successive recorded Earth years, while the solar TSI has been low for 10 years.
21-01-2017 17:11
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Anomalous Present High Arctic Berserker energy, PHAB or FAB
continues heating the top of the World. Heat setting records are in mid & eastern Canada (2degC to almost 3degC over previous 100 year records). Yes, it appears that anomalous temperatures of the Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, which were 20degC above average in the High Arctic in November 2016 are visiting parts of Canada now. Mid to eastern U.S. states are also warmer. However, cold Greenland & still record setting Alaskan cold causes extra off-shore mid-winter season sub-Arctic sea ice to form.
Edited on 21-01-2017 18:03
21-01-2017 18:32
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From another thread, a past post plus update:
litesong wrote:
The Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, has stretched its life to 127 to 140 straight days in a row, & is now 10degC above average High Arctic temperature.
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litesong continues:
The Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, has stretched its life to ~ 130 to 145 straight days in a row, & is now ~ 13degC above average High Arctic temperature. The Present High Arctic Berserker, PHAB or FAB
, appears to be on its way to 150(+?) straight days of over-average High Arctic temperatures. 200 straight days could be possible.
Edited on 21-01-2017 18:41
23-01-2017 19:12
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Litesong

Check the Canadian Weather Service site and stop talking Bollocks about Arctic temperatures.
23-01-2017 19:44
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litesong wrote: Gee, "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann" been gone fer a while. Hope its just on vacation...or sumpin'.

litesong, buddy, I'm still here enjoying your posts. You rock.

I had family in from out of town so I didn't really post much but I made sure to catch what you had to say.

Keep on fighting the good fight.

Oh, and yes, I went to Trump's inauguration. I couldn't see him specifically because there was no physical way to squeeze within a quarter-mile of the Capitol; there were just too many people crammed onto the national mall ... so I had to settle for watching one of the big screens closer to the Washington monument.

The AGW Berserker and his excess-energy-heat-spawns are still at it I see. He must be wreaking havoc up there in the Arctic. Please keep us posted on how much Arctic ice is being decimated.




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24-01-2017 07:54
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IBdaMann wrote:The AGW Berserker and his excess-energy-heat-spawns are still at it I see. He must be wreaking havoc up there in the Arctic.

The Present High Arctic Berserker or PHAB or FAB
is taking a break (altho still 8degC over average). But FAB
sent cold Arctic air to Alaska & some to Greenland, where off-shore extra sea ice has formed. Also, FAB
transferred some energy to mid to east Canada & heating appropriately:
http://www.lfpress.com/2017/01/22/london-weather-anything-possible-in-heat-wave
Edited on 24-01-2017 08:03
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