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Arctic sea ice cover02-04-2022 07:15
duncan61
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Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


duncan61
02-04-2022 07:42
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PINCHGUT / SYDNEY HARBOUR: 1862
02-04-2022 08:31
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date

The area of ice coverage doesn't tell you anything. You don't know how deep it goes anywhere thus you don't know the volume ... and that's how you have to measure ice, i.e. by volume.

You could have two consecutive years of equivalent amounts of sea ice, but one year has record coverage area and the other had much less area but with much deeper ice formation in one or more regions.

The point is that it all melts away in the summer and freezes again the following winter. Sea ice coverage is not a useful measure of anything. You can't use it to make decisions or to draw any valid conclusions.

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02-04-2022 09:27
duncan61
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I agree
02-04-2022 22:47
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IBdaMann wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date

The area of ice coverage doesn't tell you anything. You don't know how deep it goes anywhere thus you don't know the volume ... and that's how you have to measure ice, i.e. by volume.

You could have two consecutive years of equivalent amounts of sea ice, but one year has record coverage area and the other had much less area but with much deeper ice formation in one or more regions.

The point is that it all melts away in the summer and freezes again the following winter. Sea ice coverage is not a useful measure of anything. You can't use it to make decisions or to draw any valid conclusions.

.


WRONG! Sea ice coverage is great fear mongering material, since polar bears and penguins lives depend on lots of ice (heavy drinkers, I guess...). It's vitally important, since we spend millions to study it every year, waiting for the best photo-ops, to further the climate-crisis agenda. You have any idea how dangerous it is to separate a polar bear cub from it's mom, and set it adrift on a chunk of ice, just for a viral-video? Takes a lot of hard work and planning to set the charges, line up the video equipment, and capture a an ice cliff collapsing on to a penguin colony. All in the name of 'science'.
03-04-2022 15:33
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?
03-04-2022 15:55
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


1979 was just the year they had a polar, spy satellite so they could catch polar bears knocking over trashcans. Eskimos kept complaining... They noticed in the winter, there was a whole lot more ice, and it was harder to spot the polar bears. Fortunately, a lot of it melted over the summer, making it easier to track down the rambunctious polar bears, and murder them. Leaving the 'scientist' with too much free-time, to waste on global warming crap.
03-04-2022 21:25
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


1979 was just the year they had a polar, spy satellite so they could catch polar bears knocking over trashcans. Eskimos kept complaining... They noticed in the winter, there was a whole lot more ice, and it was harder to spot the polar bears. Fortunately, a lot of it melted over the summer, making it easier to track down the rambunctious polar bears, and murder them. Leaving the 'scientist' with too much free-time, to waste on global warming crap.


Scientist do not study global warming, it is socialist who study global warming.
05-04-2022 15:38
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Swan wrote:
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Scientist do not study global warming, it is socialist who study global warming.


Why wouldn't they?

I like to socialize when the climate's good, too!

(yuck, yuck, yuck...)
05-04-2022 16:04
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:Scientist do not study global warming, it is socialist who study global warming.

Close. Very close.

It's the Marxist who worships [i]Global Warming[/i].

Hey, you aren't entirely schizzo today. LOL.
05-04-2022 16:07
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GretaGroupie wrote:I like to socialize when the climate's good, too!

(yuck, yuck, yuck...)

... and we could all use a little change! (yuck, yuck, yuck...)

05-04-2022 16:47
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IBdaMann wrote:
... and we could all use a little change! (yuck, yuck, yuck...)


... because change is so TRANSforming! (nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...)

05-04-2022 16:53
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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GretaGroupie wrote:
... because change is so TRANSforming! (nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...)

... all the way down to the pronouns!



05-04-2022 16:58
GretaGroupieProfile picture★★☆☆☆
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IBdaMann wrote:



Ha, Ha, Ha.... and he's naked, too!

As for me, I can use any pronouns. Just depends on how I accessorize.

Now, you gotta admit, that does make the climate hotter.
06-04-2022 16:16
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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GretaGroupie wrote:As for me, I can use any pronouns. Just depends on how I accessorize.

For me, it determines whether I go by "he/him" ... or insist people refer to me as "Sir!", and it often comes down to what type of toolbox I have installed or what type of gun rack ... sometimes both.



GretaGroupie wrote:Now, you gotta admit, that does make the climate hotter.

Well, it's what accelerates the change in the climate ... and often makes me adjust my climate control.

06-04-2022 16:37
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Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


Indeed. IBD's answer is what I would consider to be the "prime" response to this sort of thing, but even if one would entertain the "sea ice extent" angle, then this is the next issue. Why is the 1979-present time period more important/meaningful than any other period of time in history?
06-04-2022 17:45
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


Indeed. IBD's answer is what I would consider to be the "prime" response to this sort of thing, but even if one would entertain the "sea ice extent" angle, then this is the next issue. Why is the 1979-present time period more important/meaningful than any other period of time in history?

If one is going to consider the "sea ice extent" angle, then one needs to wonder why this is of any significance since sea ice floats and does not affect the sea level in any way.

So maybe one decides to look at this issue from a sea ice extent because it affects shipping ... except that the sea ice extent for any given year seems to be random, and is neither increasing nor decreasing.

So maybe one decides to devote one's time to something more productive and more informative like reading mattress tags.

.
07-04-2022 14:42
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IBdaMann wrote:


Wow, that's a well stocked pantry.

So, what do you do for fun when you not playing with your big sticks?
07-04-2022 16:14
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


Indeed. IBD's answer is what I would consider to be the "prime" response to this sort of thing, but even if one would entertain the "sea ice extent" angle, then this is the next issue. Why is the 1979-present time period more important/meaningful than any other period of time in history?

If one is going to consider the "sea ice extent" angle, then one needs to wonder why this is of any significance since sea ice floats and does not affect the sea level in any way.

So maybe one decides to look at this issue from a sea ice extent because it affects shipping ... except that the sea ice extent for any given year seems to be random, and is neither increasing nor decreasing.

So maybe one decides to devote one's time to something more productive and more informative like reading mattress tags.

.

09-04-2022 08:29
duncan61
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Table 1. Ten lowest maximum Arctic sea ice extents (satellite record, 1979 to present)
Rank Year In millions of square kilometers miles Date
1 2017 14.41 5.56 March 7
2 2018 14.47 5.59 March 17
3 2016 14.50 5.60 March 13
4 2015 14.51 5.60 March 23
5 2011 14.67 5.66 February 25
6 2006 14.68 5.67 March 9
7 2007 14.70 5.70 March 12
8 2021 14.77 5.70 March 12
9 2019 14.82 5.72 March 13
10 2022 14.88 5.75 February 21

I get the NASA newsletter as I like a good read of fiction.This is the claimed lowest ice coverage at the Arctic since satellite records began.I am seeing there was more sea ice cover in 2022 than the previous years.How does that compute to shrinking.I see ice cover gaining.Please explain


So does NASA know that the Earth was not created in 1979?


Indeed. IBD's answer is what I would consider to be the "prime" response to this sort of thing, but even if one would entertain the "sea ice extent" angle, then this is the next issue. Why is the 1979-present time period more important/meaningful than any other period of time in history?


1979 is when satellites first took pictures for comparison.The Titanic hit a burg up that way.I wonder where that baby come from


duncan61




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