July 4, 2023 - Hottest day ever recorded

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
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40a.

IBdaMann wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote: @IBdaMann, When will you wise up?

Awww, c'mon, that is not going to happen ... and I like animal mindset. Beef!

GasGuzzler wrote: These unprecedented climate changes first happened 25 years ago and are now the new normal.

But I'm talking about the fourth time they were unprecedented, which was about 4 million years ago. Satellite imagery during the pliocene shows quite clearly that ice cores were more unprecedented back then, and then even moreso during the 6th unprecedentedness just before the pleistocene.

GasGuzzler wrote: Why are you so anal about the data compilation?

Because they always turn to me to fabricate the numbers. It has been Ralph's turn since mid-June. Plus, I lost my little NOAA logo so I have to use NASA, unless you can send me a new one.

GasGuzzler wrote: I'm also sorry there was no information on the sampling of this scientific study of believers, but it really doesn't matter where these religious zealots are from, you just need to BELIEVE it and be welcomed into the Marxist cult.

Well of course I believe it. I just think that I should get to pick which days are the unprecedented-for-the-fifth-time ones, considering I fabricated the numbers.

GasGuzzler wrote: Wise up young man before it's not already too late.

Dude, you're making people happy with your hope. Stop, already.

GasGuzzler wrote: Soon it will be too hot in YOUR back yard.

As long as there is no margin of error, we're all good.

GasGuzzler wrote:Just more of the normal unprecedentedish snarcasm from the dominant troll that's been going on at least since 236 new members have joined.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
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40a.

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GasGuzzler wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote: @IBdaMann, When will you wise up?

Awww, c'mon, that is not going to happen ... and I like animal mindset. Beef!

GasGuzzler wrote: These unprecedented climate changes first happened 25 years ago and are now the new normal.

But I'm talking about the fourth time they were unprecedented, which was about 4 million years ago. Satellite imagery during the pliocene shows quite clearly that ice cores were more unprecedented back then, and then even moreso during the 6th unprecedentedness just before the pleistocene.

GasGuzzler wrote: Why are you so anal about the data compilation?

Because they always turn to me to fabricate the numbers. It has been Ralph's turn since mid-June. Plus, I lost my little NOAA logo so I have to use NASA, unless you can send me a new one.

GasGuzzler wrote: I'm also sorry there was no information on the sampling of this scientific study of believers, but it really doesn't matter where these religious zealots are from, you just need to BELIEVE it and be welcomed into the Marxist cult.

Well of course I believe it. I just think that I should get to pick which days are the unprecedented-for-the-fifth-time ones, considering I fabricated the numbers.

GasGuzzler wrote: Wise up young man before it's not already too late.

Dude, you're making people happy with your hope. Stop, already.

GasGuzzler wrote: Soon it will be too hot in YOUR back yard.

As long as there is no margin of error, we're all good.

Just more of the normal unprecedentedish snarcasm from the dominant troll that's been going on at least since 236 new members have joined.

Im a BM wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
It is not official yet.

But all indications are that when the data is all compiled, it will show:

July 4, 2023 was the hottest day ever recorded.

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On July 3rd, 2023, a new record temperature was set for the hottest day since thermometer were invented.

On July 4th, that record was broken with a new hottest day temperature.

On July 5th, that new record was at least matched. Too soon to know if it is really a tie for first place.

So, in the space of three days, the three hottest ever recorded.

Well see how long the new record holds.

Unfortunately, all the science tells us it will only get hotter, on average.

Nobody is required to believe the objective evidence.

But any claim to the contrary requires extraordinary proof at this point.

duncan61 wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
It is not official yet.

But all indications are that when the data is all compiled, it will show:

July 4, 2023 was the hottest day ever recorded.

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On July 3rd, 2023, a new record temperature was set for the hottest day since thermometer were invented.

On July 4th, that record was broken with a new hottest day temperature.

On July 5th, that new record was at least matched. Too soon to know if it is really a tie for first place.

So, in the space of three days, the three hottest ever recorded.

Well see how long the new record holds.

Unfortunately, all the science tells us it will only get hotter, on average.

Nobody is required to believe the objective evidence.

But any claim to the contrary requires extraordinary proof at this point.

Its turned out that the measurements were actually surface temperature not atmospheric. Oooops

keepit wrote: Seriously, what IS a troll?

Im a BM wrote:
A perfectly normal hurricane came up into Baja California and entered the western US.

Im a BM wrote:
So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set that they are calling it a "thousand year storm".

Im a BM wrote:
According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

Im a BM wrote:
It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

Im a BM wrote:
Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

Im a BM wrote: So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set

Im a BM wrote: ... they are calling it a "thousand year storm"

Im a BM wrote: They don't believe it will be a thousand years before it happens again.

Im a BM wrote: According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

Im a BM wrote: California, Louisiana, and Florida are states where insurance companies simply no longer to offer coverage for some of these things.

Im a BM wrote: Tourists on Greek islands were evacuated to escape wildfires.

Im a BM wrote: It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

Im a BM wrote: Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

Im a BM wrote:
A perfectly normal hurricane came up into Baja California and entered the western US.

So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set that they are calling it a "thousand year storm".

According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

California, Louisiana, and Florida are states where insurance companies simply no longer to offer coverage for some of these things.

They don't believe it will be a thousand years before it happens again.

Tourists on Greek islands were evacuated to escape wildfires.

And Maui has yet to discover how high the body count will be because rain forest got so dry before the hurricane winds hit.

Eastern Canada started burning much earlier than usual this year.

Western Canada and Washington state are burning right now.

It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set

No specific number. No specific records or areas.

Im a BM wrote: ... they are calling it a "thousand year storm"

Well, if they are calling it a "thousand year storm" then who am I to question them?

Im a BM wrote: They don't believe it will be a thousand years before it happens again.

Now I'm confused.

Im a BM wrote: According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

I thought historical records spoke of the past, but you say they speak of the future? When do the historical records say WWII will happen again?

p.s. - I thought the historic record was the Beatles "White" album.

Im a BM wrote: California, Louisiana, and Florida are states where insurance companies simply no longer to offer coverage for some of these things.

This has been explained to you twice already.

... and now for something completely different ...

Im a BM wrote: Tourists on Greek islands were evacuated to escape wildfires.

Im a BM wrote: It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that random weather events have ever formed "patterns" and that these particular random events you mention somehow form some "new" pattern that differs from any of the nonexistent previous weather patterns.

Im a BM wrote: Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

Well, we certainly don't want any of that. I think now would be a great time for you to nip all that in the bud and provide the formal, unambiguous definition of the global climate. Thanks in advance.

HarveyH55 wrote: Wildfire is natural, normal, and beneficial.

HarveyH55 wrote: Mankind don't like them though, and does what they can to suppress/reduce them. But, man is lazy, and unwilling to expend the labor and expense.

HarveyH55 wrote: Mostly the needed maintenance ignored, until after it's to late to get started cleaning up, what nature does with fire.

HarveyH55 wrote: Weather is essentially random.

HarveyH55 wrote: We can predict the path of existing patterns, with some certainty.

HarveyH55 wrote: But, we can predict when or where these weather events will begin.

HarveyH55 wrote: According to climate-change, the doom and gloom should be worse, and more frequent the following year. Which they will continue to chant, year, after year, until there is another bad year...

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote: Wildfire is natural, normal, and beneficial.

Depending on the area. In some areas, it is not beneficial, however your premise is correct for the most part.

HarveyH55 wrote: Mankind don't like them though, and does what they can to suppress/reduce them. But, man is lazy, and unwilling to expend the labor and expense.

You will find this in the US. You will not find this in Panamá, for example, where most homes are nestled in amongst rain forest, where every single home is at risk during each year's dry season. As such, virtually all Panamanians perform controlled burns for their homes, and complain if their neighbors do not, as opposed to complaining if their neighbors do.

Panamá has lots of rain forest and plenty of occasional wildfires, about which they remain unconcerned because of everything you mentioned and because of their confidence that it will all grow back ... but you never hear of any concern of wildfires threatening any homes or lives in Panamá.

HarveyH55 wrote: Mostly the needed maintenance ignored, until after it's to late to get started cleaning up, what nature does with fire.

In the US, yes. Not in Panamá.

HarveyH55 wrote: Weather is essentially random.

If you are trying to say that there is some component of weather that is controlled, I'd be interested to know what that is. Otherwise weather is not essentially, or mostly, random ... it is entirely random.

HarveyH55 wrote: We can predict the path of existing patterns, with some certainty.

This presumes the manifestation of the pattern. Sure, we can track a storm once it forms, but the formation of that storm is random, and hence not predictable. The reason we have no idea what the weather will be in Fargo, North Dakota on 6 December 2023 is that we have no idea what pattern we will see on 3 December 2023. It is totally random, totally unpredictable. There are no patterns in weather.

HarveyH55 wrote: But, we can predict when or where these weather events will begin.

I don't buy this. Could you give me an example of our ability to predict the time and place the conditions conducive to a hurricane will form?

HarveyH55 wrote: According to climate-change, the doom and gloom should be worse, and more frequent the following year. Which they will continue to chant, year, after year, until there is another bad year...

I see you noticed this. Just this morning I noticed all the unprecedented weather going on around me. It was totally unprecedented. So many amount-of-weather records were broken just in this one day. They were saying that this was a once-in-a-thousand-years weather quantity, but insurance companies don't think it will take another thousand years before we have a repeat. Many states don't even insure against this quantity of weather. It takes mental gymnastics and distortion to think that today somehow conforms to some previously existing pattern. Maybe we need a word game, like Scrabble, to win the debate.

Im a BM wrote:
A perfectly normal hurricane came up into Baja California and entered the western US.

Im a BM wrote:
So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set that they are calling it a "thousand year storm".
According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

Im a BM wrote:
California, Louisiana, and Florida are states where insurance companies simply no longer to offer coverage for some of these things.

Im a BM wrote:
They don't believe it will be a thousand years before it happens again.

Im a BM wrote:
Tourists on Greek islands were evacuated to escape wildfires.

Im a BM wrote:
And Maui has yet to discover how high the body count will be because rain forest got so dry before the hurricane winds hit.

Im a BM wrote:
Eastern Canada started burning much earlier than usual this year.

Im a BM wrote:
Western Canada and Washington state are burning right now.

Im a BM wrote:
It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

Im a BM wrote:
Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
A perfectly normal hurricane came up into Baja California and entered the western US.

So? At least, I liked the name of this storm: Hillary. What a blowhard.
The memes were priceless.

"Anyone dying due to Hillary will be considered a suicide."
"Hillary comes ashore and destroys 30,000 emails."

Im a BM wrote:
So many most-rain-in-a-day records were set that they are calling it a "thousand year storm".
According to the historic record, such a thing won't happen again for about a thousand years.

Meh. That's DEMOCRATS for you. They are the ones calling it a 'thousand year storm'. They like chants like this.

Im a BM wrote:
California, Louisiana, and Florida are states where insurance companies simply no longer to offer coverage for some of these things.

You can get hurricane insurance, dummy. Be prepared to pay a hefty premium!

Im a BM wrote:
They don't believe it will be a thousand years before it happens again.

Since it's always happened most any year, they are right.

Im a BM wrote:
Tourists on Greek islands were evacuated to escape wildfires.

So? Easy to do, since the wildfires are pretty localized.

Im a BM wrote:
And Maui has yet to discover how high the body count will be because rain forest got so dry before the hurricane winds hit.

There is no rain forest in the Lahaina area. There never was. There is no rain forest on the west side of Maui.

Im a BM wrote:
Eastern Canada started burning much earlier than usual this year.

Not really. Just the usual dry grass that grew from a wet spring.

Im a BM wrote:
Western Canada and Washington state are burning right now.

So? Happens in late summer every year. Most of the fires in Washington were due to lightning. There was a couple of cases of arson.

Im a BM wrote:
It requires mental gymnastics and distortion to pretend that these events are consistent with any normal historical pattern.

They are normal historical pattern.

Im a BM wrote:
Or maybe a word game about the term "climate change" will win the "debate".

You think so? You want to start another word game about 'climate change' again?
Okay. Define 'climate change'.

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

This last Wednesday. There was no climate change at all the entire day.

You're wrong a lot.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

This last Wednesday. There was no climate change at all the entire day.

You're wrong a lot.

Sure there was, as every day is a moment in time. Did you see any people murdered last Wednesday?

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

This last Wednesday. There was no climate change at all the entire day.

You're wrong a lot.

Sure there was, as every day is a moment in time. Did you see any people murdered last Wednesday?

What climate change are you claiming occurred last Wednesday?

Perhaps you need to appreciate the government's efforts to get climate change under control.
.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

This last Wednesday. There was no climate change at all the entire day.

You're wrong a lot.

Sure there was, as every day is a moment in time. Did you see any people murdered last Wednesday?

What climate change are you claiming occurred last Wednesday?

Perhaps you need to appreciate the government's efforts to get climate change under control.
.

NJ is literally having the wettest July and August of my lifetime. All lawns are equally green, including those that are never watered, and Wednesday is included as are the other six days in the week. Your approval for this is just not required.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:There is no known time in the history of the Earth when climate change was not happening.

This last Wednesday. There was no climate change at all the entire day.

You're wrong a lot.

Sure there was, as every day is a moment in time. Did you see any people murdered last Wednesday?

What climate change are you claiming occurred last Wednesday?

Perhaps you need to appreciate the government's efforts to get climate change under control.
.

NJ is literally having the wettest July and August of my lifetime.

Swan wrote:
All lawns are equally green, including those that are never watered,

Swan wrote:
Your approval for this is just not required.

Swan wrote:NJ is literally having the wettest July and August of my lifetime.

Swan wrote:NJ is literally having the wettest July and August of my lifetime.

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Swan wrote:
I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

Swan wrote:
Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Yes you did, Sock.

Swan wrote:
I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

They are not, Sock.

Swan wrote:
Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

You don't know my pay grade, Sock.

Swan wrote: I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Of course you didn't say that. You simply equated climate with weather, as if climate being weather somehow goes without saying. I mentioned that there has still been no climate change since last Wednesday and you countered with New Jersey getting rain as a rebuttal.

We should keep a list of all the egregious errors that provide indications of your tumultuous confusion:

1. You think weather is climate and that climate has a magnitude
2. You cannot discern my posts from others and think I am some other poster
3. You think amphibious animals are not amphibious animals
4. You think the FBI is every other government agency
-4a. You think the FBI conducts all of DoD's background investigations
-4b. You think the FBI somehow needs to interview you, but are too afraid
5. You deny the definition of molecules
6. You declare rocks to be moraines because of your omniscience about their unobserved, distant past
7. You believe WWIII has already begun in Belarus

If anyone else would like to add to this list, please feel free.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Of course you didn't say that. You simply equated climate with weather, as if climate being weather somehow goes without saying. I mentioned that there has still been no climate change since last Wednesday and you countered with New Jersey getting rain as a rebuttal.

We should keep a list of all the egregious errors that provide indications of your tumultuous confusion:

1. You think weather is climate and that climate has a magnitude
2. You cannot discern my posts from others and think I am some other poster
3. You think amphibious animals are not amphibious animals
4. You think the FBI is every other government agency
-4a. You think the FBI conducts all of DoD's background investigations
-4b. You think the FBI somehow needs to interview you, but are too afraid
5. You deny the definition of molecules
6. You declare rocks to be moraines because of your omniscience about their unobserved, distant past
7. You believe WWIII has already begun in Belarus

If anyone else would like to add to this list, please feel free.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Yes you did, Sock.

Swan wrote:
I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

They are not, Sock.

Swan wrote:
Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

You don't know my pay grade, Sock.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Of course you didn't say that. You simply equated climate with weather, as if climate being weather somehow goes without saying. I mentioned that there has still been no climate change since last Wednesday and you countered with New Jersey getting rain as a rebuttal.

We should keep a list of all the egregious errors that provide indications of your tumultuous confusion:

1. You think weather is climate and that climate has a magnitude
2. You cannot discern my posts from others and think I am some other poster
3. You think amphibious animals are not amphibious animals
4. You think the FBI is every other government agency
-4a. You think the FBI conducts all of DoD's background investigations
-4b. You think the FBI somehow needs to interview you, but are too afraid
5. You deny the definition of molecules
6. You declare rocks to be moraines because of your omniscience about their unobserved, distant past
7. You believe WWIII has already begun in Belarus

If anyone else would like to add to this list, please feel free.

If you do not know the weather over a period of time, you cannot know the climate, because the two are intertwined like time and space. Now take your Chlorpromazine and chill out

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Yes you did, Sock.

Swan wrote:
I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

They are not, Sock.

Swan wrote:
Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

You don't know my pay grade, Sock.

Market...

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Yes you did, Sock.

Swan wrote:
I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

They are not, Sock.

Swan wrote:
Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

You don't know my pay grade, Sock.

Market...

Mantra 40a.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Climate and weather are intertwined,

Stop. You are specifically equating the two, not simply "intertwining" the two.

You described a change of weather, and then called it climate change, not weather change.

I'll give you a do-over.

Yes, the New Jersey weather changed ... again ... like it has done constantly ever since there was a New Jersey, and I just verified that there still hasn't been any climate change anywhere whatsoever since Wednesday, I'm sorry.

Weather and climate are intertwined and cannot be separated, just as you and your delusions are intertwined and cannot be separated.

You may now resume being deluded and may continue telling people that there was never an ice age, because I was not there.

You are a complete waste of an education

False equivalence fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. Climate and weather are NOT the same thing.

Climate cannot change. Weather can. Climate has no values associated with it. Weather does.

I did nt say that climate and weather were the same thing,

Yes you did, Sock.

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I said that climate and weather were intertwined like space and time.

They are not, Sock.

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Something that is quite a bit ahead of your pay grade.

You don't know my pay grade, Sock.

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