CO2 ocean uptake

Swan wrote:

There was no magic involved in the ice age and there are many things involved such as magnetic flipping which might slow, stop or reroute the deep ocean currents, radically altering temps. LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

Really take your pills

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

Xadoman wrote:

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

Apparently you do not know that the moon is drifting away from the earth( just like the earth is drifting away from the sun).

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

I already explained how different parts of the world get their "ice age". Continents move you see, do not you agree, mo namie? There are places with "ice age" anno domini 2021. Somewhere in the future those places are going to drift away from "ice age " zone and could end up in the tropic zone. You see, everything is actually Simplementas Marias, not the magic mumbos jumbos magnetic fields and ocean currents as you would like to make it up to be.

James___ wrote:

Swan wrote:

There was no magic involved in the ice age and there are many things involved such as magnetic flipping which might slow, stop or reroute the deep ocean currents, radically altering temps. LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

Really take your pills

The Earth's orbit around the Sun is slowly moving it further away. I've posted data about that. A link to a solar calculator. http://www.instesre.org/Aerosols/sol_calc.htm This basically shows that in the next couple of thousand years that the warm inter-glacial period that we've been enjoying is slowly ending.
Ice ages end when the Earth's orbit becomes its most circular and begin with the most elliptical orbit. This has to do with the Earth's Moment of Inertia and how the Sun's gravitational field affects the Earth.
An example is the Sling Shot Maneuver to accelerate satellites when the pass a moon or a planet. Momentum is transferred from the greater mass to the smaller object. This gets into astrophysics and am not sure if you guys are interested in discussing something like that.

p.s., if trends continue, in a couple of hundred years they'll probably be saying the next "Little Ice Age" has begun.

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Swan wrote:

There was no magic involved in the ice age and there are many things involved such as magnetic flipping which might slow, stop or reroute the deep ocean currents, radically altering temps. LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

Really take your pills

The Earth's orbit around the Sun is slowly moving it further away. I've posted data about that. A link to a solar calculator. http://www.instesre.org/Aerosols/sol_calc.htm This basically shows that in the next couple of thousand years that the warm inter-glacial period that we've been enjoying is slowly ending.
Ice ages end when the Earth's orbit becomes its most circular and begin with the most elliptical orbit. This has to do with the Earth's Moment of Inertia and how the Sun's gravitational field affects the Earth.
An example is the Sling Shot Maneuver to accelerate satellites when the pass a moon or a planet. Momentum is transferred from the greater mass to the smaller object. This gets into astrophysics and am not sure if you guys are interested in discussing something like that.

p.s., if trends continue, in a couple of hundred years they'll probably be saying the next "Little Ice Age" has begun.

Nope. Earth has no rocket engines.

Xadoman wrote:

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

Apparently you do not know that the moon is drifting away from the earth( just like the earth is drifting away from the sun).

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

I already explained how different parts of the world get their "ice age". Continents move you see, do not you agree, mo namie? There are places with "ice age" anno domini 2021. Somewhere in the future those places are going to drift away from "ice age " zone and could end up in the tropic zone. You see, everything is actually Simplementas Marias, not the magic mumbos jumbos magnetic fields and ocean currents as you would like to make it up to be.

keepit wrote:
James,
I'd like to know more about celestial mechanics. Feel free to expound.

joseph369 wrote: Think of the ocean as a giant bottle of ginger ale.

Into the Night wrote:

Xadoman wrote:

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

Apparently you do not know that the moon is drifting away from the earth( just like the earth is drifting away from the sun).

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

I already explained how different parts of the world get their "ice age". Continents move you see, do not you agree, mo namie? There are places with "ice age" anno domini 2021. Somewhere in the future those places are going to drift away from "ice age " zone and could end up in the tropic zone. You see, everything is actually Simplementas Marias, not the magic mumbos jumbos magnetic fields and ocean currents as you would like to make it up to be.

The Moon doesn't orbit the Earth. The Moon and the Earth orbit each other around a point called a barycenter.
The effect of this uneven center of gravity is to produce two tides on Earth each day.

Moving all this water around is energy. The other side of this is that the Moon is stealing energy from the Earth's rotation and offset center of gravity of the pair of bodies to increase it's orbit. As the Moon (which is much smaller than the Earth) gains altitude, Earth's spin becomes slower. Our day/night cycle actually gets very slightly longer.

As the Moon gains a higher orbit, it also slows down.

Eventually, a point will be reached where the Moon and Earth are synchronized. The Moon will no longer move across the sky. There will be no tides caused by the Moon. The day/night cycle will be considerably longer as well.

That would happen, but the star that is our Sun will run out of fuel long before then, bloat out, and engulf the Earth and the Moon completely. Have no fear, it won't happen for 5 billion years.

Swan wrote: The moon is locked into Earths gravitational field and orbits the Earth.

HarveyH55 wrote:But, how many millions of years, before any of these hypothetical doomsday events, even become a concern, much less, a crisis?

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:But, how many millions of years, before any of these hypothetical doomsday events, even become a concern, much less, a crisis?

Not millions of years. Climate Science has proven that the earth will succumb to human activity by the end of the century. When that happens, the solar system will be looking for a replacement planet because Earth will be gone. The moon will have to stand in until a suitable replacement for the earth is appointed.

When will it be a crisis? Well, it already is. We have allowed the threat to grow and to grow and now the best for which we can hope is to tax the poor for all they've got in order to give our grandchildren maybe a few extra days of life.

Fortunately we have Alé Cortez spearheading an ominous tax-borrow-spend plan that takes full advantage of the fact that money isn't going to have any value anyway when the planet is nothing but drifting space ash. We are going to extend the earth's life support by weeks, maybe even a couple of months, by mandating totally insufficient renewables ... and the sooner we can outlaw the plentiful fuel that we currently use, the better.


... so the answer to your question is that we have thirteen years, tops.


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Into the Night wrote:Nope. Earth has no rocket engines.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: The moon is locked into Earths gravitational field and orbits the Earth.

You apparently believe that the moon has no gravity. Why do you have to be so dysfunctional?

The moon has gravity and the earth is caught in it. What part of this are you failing to grasp?

James__ was kind enough to post Newton's formula for gravity and you should take another look at it. Notice that it requires TWO bodies. Newton's formula does not describe gravitational "fields" of individual bodies.

You were apparently confused by the fact that the moon moves more than the earth but that's because the earth has so much more mass than the moon. Similarly, the sun rotates around the solar system's barycenter and does not sit in one place. You should look up "barycenter" before fumbling through this topic. Oh, and look up "gravity" and "orbits" as well.

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Swan wrote: Look doofus, the moon orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun and the sun is in orbit around the milky ways core. Your big words do not make you less ill

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Look doofus, the moon orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun and the sun is in orbit around the milky ways core. Your big words do not make you less ill

FACT CHECK: Swan falsely claims that gravity is not a force between two bodies/masses and he totally denies the moon's gravitational pull on the earth.

Determination: Swan is a scientifically illiterate doofus.

FACT CHECK: Swan thinks "barycenter" is a "big word" that has too many syllables for him to mentally process the word.

Determination: Swan is a scientifically illiterate doofus.

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Swan wrote:

Xadoman wrote:

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

Apparently you do not know that the moon is drifting away from the earth( just like the earth is drifting away from the sun).

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

I already explained how different parts of the world get their "ice age". Continents move you see, do not you agree, mo namie? There are places with "ice age" anno domini 2021. Somewhere in the future those places are going to drift away from "ice age " zone and could end up in the tropic zone. You see, everything is actually Simplementas Marias, not the magic mumbos jumbos magnetic fields and ocean currents as you would like to make it up to be.

Dude you say some things that are true, but you can not connect any dots, you just take the partial realities that you know and create a complete fictitious world to exist in. Tell us, what created Mount Mitchell the highest point on the Eastern seaboard south of nova scotia?

Answer, the glacial maximum created Mount Mitchel, if you disagree please explain where it came from?

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Swan wrote:

There was no magic involved in the ice age and there are many things involved such as magnetic flipping which might slow, stop or reroute the deep ocean currents, radically altering temps. LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

Really take your pills

The Earth's orbit around the Sun is slowly moving it further away. I've posted data about that. A link to a solar calculator. http://www.instesre.org/Aerosols/sol_calc.htm This basically shows that in the next couple of thousand years that the warm inter-glacial period that we've been enjoying is slowly ending.
Ice ages end when the Earth's orbit becomes its most circular and begin with the most elliptical orbit. This has to do with the Earth's Moment of Inertia and how the Sun's gravitational field affects the Earth.
An example is the Sling Shot Maneuver to accelerate satellites when the pass a moon or a planet. Momentum is transferred from the greater mass to the smaller object. This gets into astrophysics and am not sure if you guys are interested in discussing something like that.

p.s., if trends continue, in a couple of hundred years they'll probably be saying the next "Little Ice Age" has begun.

Nope. Earth has no rocket engines.

And once again we're back to....

p.s., tomorrow I'll post a walk through problem showing the math. Basics like this, it'd help if everyone was familiar with it. And I know your pc's have a calculator.
Then next we might get into 9.81m/s/s as an increase in kinetic energy. And if no acceleration, then how does KE increase?

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: The moon is locked into Earths gravitational field and orbits the Earth.

You apparently believe that the moon has no gravity. Why do you have to be so dysfunctional?

The moon has gravity and the earth is caught in it. What part of this are you failing to grasp?

James__ was kind enough to post Newton's formula for gravity and you should take another look at it. Notice that it requires TWO bodies. Newton's formula does not describe gravitational "fields" of individual bodies.

You were apparently confused by the fact that the moon moves more than the earth but that's because the earth has so much more mass than the moon. Similarly, the sun rotates around the solar system's barycenter and does not sit in one place. You should look up "barycenter" before fumbling through this topic. Oh, and look up "gravity" and "orbits" as well.

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Look doofus, the moon orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun and the sun is in orbit around the milky ways core

Your big words do not make you less ill

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Xadoman wrote:

LOL the Earth is not drifting away from the sun, if it was it would already be gone as it has been in orbit for 5 billion years.

Apparently you do not know that the moon is drifting away from the earth( just like the earth is drifting away from the sun).

The simulations also imply that at the time of its formation, the Moon sat much closer to the Earth - a mere 22,500km (14,000 miles) away, compared with the quarter of a million miles (402,336 km) between the Earth and the Moon today.

LOL if there was no ice age what moved the moraines?

I already explained how different parts of the world get their "ice age". Continents move you see, do not you agree, mo namie? There are places with "ice age" anno domini 2021. Somewhere in the future those places are going to drift away from "ice age " zone and could end up in the tropic zone. You see, everything is actually Simplementas Marias, not the magic mumbos jumbos magnetic fields and ocean currents as you would like to make it up to be.

Dude you say some things that are true, but you can not connect any dots, you just take the partial realities that you know and create a complete fictitious world to exist in. Tell us, what created Mount Mitchell the highest point on the Eastern seaboard south of nova scotia?

Answer, the glacial maximum created Mount Mitchel, if you disagree please explain where it came from?

Glaciers do not create mountains.

Swan wrote:The glacial maxim created mount mitchel in nj, so you are wrong again

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:The glacial maxim created mount mitchel in nj, so you are wrong again

If you're so sure then post a link to the YouTube video showing this happening.

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Swan wrote:Are you claiming that mount mitchell is not there?

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Are you claiming that mount mitchell is not there?

LOL Are you claiming you can read LOL LOL

Yawn. LOL you really need psychological help LOL

LOL You can't offer any reason a rational adult should believe ice created a 6,700 ft. mountain. LOL

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Swan wrote: Wrong again as mount mitchell nj is not 6700 feet tall.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Wrong again as mount mitchell nj is not 6700 feet tall.

Well, then you are the only one who is wrong. You have never provided any rational basis any reasonable adult should believe your WILD speculations and intricate conclusions about the past.

He who makes the affirmative claim bears the full burden of support, and it is no one else's job to prove it false. Your ongoing avoidance of any and all support for your claims is telling. All you have are insults that others haven't proven your religious beliefs false.

You are the only one who is wrong.

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Swan wrote: How exactly do I prove the ice age ...

Swan wrote: No one has to prove anything to a nobody like you.

Swan wrote:That said under your rules you have the burden to prove that there was no ice age

Swan wrote: and also to prove what geologic process made mount mitchel nj if not ice

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: How exactly do I prove the ice age ...

... which is why you are being asked why on earth you believe it. How were you convinced, aside from you being totally gullible and believing whatever you are ordered to believe?

Swan wrote: No one has to prove anything to a nobody like you.

That is the position of the religious believer who has no rational basis for his beliefs.

Swan wrote:That said under your rules you have the burden to prove that there was no ice age

I first have to have declared that there was no ice age. I simply stated that I have no belief that any ice age existed but I can't reject the possibility since I cannot time-travel into the past to verify any assertion or to prove any assertion false.

You, on the other hand, not only assert that the entire planet was an ice ball at one point but you insult all the heathens who don't share your WACKY faith, just like a fundamentalist would of any religion. You can provide no rational basis for your beliefs but you get very defensive when your WACKY beliefs are scrutinized and questioned.

Swan wrote: and also to prove what geologic process made mount mitchel nj if not ice

You bear the full burden to support your affirmative claim. No one else bears any responsibility to either do your job or to prove your claim false.

It is sufficient to simply dismiss you outright. Yawn

btw, Dismissed!

LOL


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Swan wrote:
what geologic process made mount mitchel nj if not ice

Yawn

James___ wrote:

Swan wrote:
what geologic process made mount mitchel nj if not ice

Yawn

Maybe the same one that made Ayers Rock in Australia or Stone Mountain, Georgia?

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Are you claiming that mount mitchell is not there?

LOL Are you claiming you can read LOL LOL

Yawn. LOL you really need psychological help LOL

LOL You can't offer any reason a rational adult should believe ice created a 6,700 ft. mountain. LOL

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Wrong again as mount mitchell nj is not 6700 feet tall. Do try to comprehend reality instead of living in your chosen illusion

https://www.jerseyfamilyfun.com/mount-mitchell-scenic-overlook-park-monmouth-county-parks-playgrounds/#:~:text=Located%20at%20266%20feet%2C%20the,the%20whole%20family%20will%20enjoy.

266 feet
Located at 266 feet, the park is on the highest natural elevation on the Atlantic seaboard from Maine to the Yucatan. The sweeping views of Sandy Hook, the Raritan Bay, and the New York City skyline are something the whole family will enjoy.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Are you claiming that mount mitchell is not there?

LOL Are you claiming you can read LOL LOL

Yawn. LOL you really need psychological help LOL

LOL You can't offer any reason a rational adult should believe ice created a 6,700 ft. mountain. LOL

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Wrong again as mount mitchell nj is not 6700 feet tall. Do try to comprehend reality instead of living in your chosen illusion

https://www.jerseyfamilyfun.com/mount-mitchell-scenic-overlook-park-monmouth-county-parks-playgrounds/#:~:text=Located%20at%20266%20feet%2C%20the,the%20whole%20family%20will%20enjoy.

266 feet
Located at 266 feet, the park is on the highest natural elevation on the Atlantic seaboard from Maine to the Yucatan. The sweeping views of Sandy Hook, the Raritan Bay, and the New York City skyline are something the whole family will enjoy.

Is that the same Sandy Hook, that Nicklaus Cruise shot up a school? Did you watch from your mountain-top lair? 266 feet? Are you sure that's brag-worthy? I grew up on the side of a 11,000+ feet mountain. Think we were at about 1,200 feet. 266 feet, is more like a hill, or a speed bump.

Swan wrote: Again you still feel that people must prove things to you

Swan wrote: Again the glacial maxim formed ..blah blah blah ....

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Again you still feel that people must prove things to you

LOL LOL It's funny how English isn't your thing LOL

No one ever has to prove his religious beliefs to anyone Yawn LOL

Swan wrote: Again the glacial maxim formed ..blah blah blah ....

LOL Funny religious beliefs LOL.

Dismissed Yawn

LOL

gfm7175 wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Again you still feel that people must prove things to you

LOL LOL It's funny how English isn't your thing LOL

No one ever has to prove his religious beliefs to anyone Yawn LOL

Swan wrote: Again the glacial maxim formed ..blah blah blah ....

LOL Funny religious beliefs LOL.

Dismissed Yawn

LOL

My glacial maximum is very large. LOL

Yawn.