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16-02-2021 23:22
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
California wildfires? You realize that California, is just a tiny, embarrassing stain on the surface of this HUGE planet. They could burn the whole state (sometimes wish they would), and it would make any global difference. The world isn't that simplistic...

Bingo.


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16-02-2021 23:36
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Swan wrote:
James___ wrote:
And red means a lot of ozone. In the US, does anyone see how much ozone is over the US? And it's cold at ground level. And the jet stream is following a path that borders what could be a warmer stratosphere to the north and a cooler stratosphere to the south.
With less ozone to the south the stratosphere might actually be a little cooler. Just how is it basic cause and effect relationships like this are missed?


Grow up you do not even know if ozone is good or bad

There are high ozone alert days where the public is warned about health risk, then there are depleted ozone alerts where fools cry that the sky is falling

Wake up already


Ozone is created by different means at different altitudes and in different places. To make ozone, all you really have to do is take oxygen, and shove energy into it.

People use ozone generators (essentially a high voltage wire) to deodorize and to help clean the air by removing smaller particulates (such as cigarette smoke).

Ozone is also produced by cars. If you combine that with unburned fuel vapors and oxides of nitrogen, you get smog. All three are required for smog to form.

Ozone is also produced by storms. If it's raining (even without lightning), ozone is being produced in the cloud. The stronger the storm, the more ozone produced. Ozone is that 'fresh rain' smell. What you are smelling is ozone descending out of the cloud on the approaching side of a storm. There are downdrafts that form there.

Ozone is also generated in the atmosphere by the action of UV-B light on oxygen in the atmosphere.

You can even make ozone by lighting a cigarette or a campfire. All fires produce ozone. Think about that next time you fix smores!

These NASA images are fakery. It's like the so-called temperature charts that NASA produces. They do not account for all ozone, nor even accurately show where it is. It's just NASA making shit up again.

Ozone in high concentrations is toxic. Not to worry, however. ozone never reaches anywhere near these concentrations in the atmosphere or from any fire or other source.

It does have that nice 'fresh rain' odor when you get concentrations high enough to smell it (which is far from the toxic levels).

Ozone blocks UV-C light and most UV-B light. It helps to clean the air. It can be a component of smog, it's true, but ONLY if the other components are there as well.

Governments issue 'ozone warnings' for low level ozone. Why? Because it's a component of smog. Lately, they've also described as 'some individuals experience breathing difficulties' with it. I've never met any, and anyone with that level of breathing difficulties is probably dead from covid19 already.


Governments also issue 'ozone warnings' for upper level ozone thinning (even though we can't measure it accurately). These types of warnings were random, designed to create panic about the ozone layer. Some weather sites still issue this type of warning.


The Parrot Killer

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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
Edited on 16-02-2021 23:45
16-02-2021 23:56
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James___ wrote:
[quote]HarveyH55 wrote:
California wildfires? You realize that California, is just a tiny, embarrassing stain on the surface of this HUGE planet. They could burn the whole state (sometimes wish they would), and it would make any global difference. The world isn't that simplistic...



More hate.
James___ wrote:
Maybe you might considering that the US is about everyone?

California is effectively not in the US anymore. it no longer recognizes the Constitution of the United States nor it's own State constitution. I call it the SOTC now.

Neither is the US (which no longer exists) about everyone. It was about federated republic, and the people and the States that support it.

The SOTC does not support any republic. They are an oligarchy, implementing fascism. It is the same for the SOTNY and the SODC. The Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of California, the Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of New York, and the Socialist Oligarchy of the District of Columbia are in alliance with each other, but not with the SOA, or the States of America.

James___ wrote:
The issue or to be on topic, wildfires like bush fires are a source of CO2.

So? What's bad about CO2? You got something against beer and soda?
James___ wrote:
As in many of my previous posts, I have shown where the ozone hole or lack of one affects the jet stream.

Ozone does not affect the jet stream.
James___ wrote:
What might be of interest would be finding out if ODS emissions have decreased. The amount of ozone in the stratosphere is unusually high. Usually a polar vortex would shift and allow an arctic blast into the lower 48 contiguous US states. The current weather event is because the arctic seems to have expanded.

To encourage your rant. Florida is not a southern state nor is it a part of the southeast. This might be because Florida was originally a settlement of Spain.
St. Augustine is the oldest continuous settlement in the US. And it was a Spanish settlement.
California was originally a Mexican state which it seems that Mexico had little interest in. It's possible that because it was so far from the Mexico capital of Mexico City that Mexicans who did not live there saw little worth in California.
So it is strange in a way that someone who lives in what was a part of Spain would like to see what was a part of Mexico burn. Today, Mexicans and Spaniards do not like each other. So you must be Spanish, right?

More James Babble.


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Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

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17-02-2021 00:01
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keepit wrote:
Today's california is what happens when real estate prices get too high.

No. The SOTC is the way it is because it's an oligarchy implementing fascism, a form of socialism.
keepit wrote:
Why did real estate prices get too high? Many reasons including costs of construction, due to permit prices, taxation, overregulation of land usage. They tried to make california a better mecca and it costs too much to be perfect in an imperfect world. A good example of perfect being the enemy of the good. Perfect's a good goal but not achievable in an imperfect world.

Part of the results of fascism.
keepit wrote:
California used to be great.

That was back when it was a State of the Union. When it was a republic.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
17-02-2021 00:02
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Swan wrote:
keepit wrote:
Today's california is what happens when real estate prices get too high. Why did real estate prices get too high? Many reasons including costs of construction, due to permit prices, taxation, overregulation of land usage. They tried to make california a better mecca and it costs too much to be perfect in an imperfect world. A good example of perfect being the enemy of the good. Perfect's a good goal but not achievable in an imperfect world.
California used to be great.


Illegal immigrants do not buy real estate, they pick peppers

He wasn't talking about illegal immigrants. Pay attention to the conversation.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
17-02-2021 00:04
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Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:It's ok, as it is obvious that you need to rationalize your trailer and beer can collection.

Which trailer? I have a fleet of them. I like to go camping.

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Campers use tents, trailers are for nerds

Trailers are for people that don't like to sleep on rocks.


Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.
17-02-2021 01:49
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Swan wrote:Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.

I have no intention of ever roughing it. I leave that to people who buy Apple and Google stock.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-02-2021 01:51
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duncan61 wrote: Is that where Willecoyote and road runner live??

Now that you mention it ...

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17-02-2021 02:37
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.

I have no intention of ever roughing it. I leave that to people who buy Apple and Google stock.

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LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place
17-02-2021 02:42
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Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.

I have no intention of ever roughing it. I leave that to people who buy Apple and Google stock.

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LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA
And again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

You might need to copy and paste the link. That does work. And once again we are back to why there are no Powhatans.


The song happens to be about killing Indians so am not sure why Google, Inc. made it's link invalid. The song shows the attitude that many Americans hold against Native Americans. The group in my opinion is making known how Native Americans have been treated. Yet the link has to be copied and pasted.
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17-02-2021 03:56
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James___ wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.

I have no intention of ever roughing it. I leave that to people who buy Apple and Google stock.

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LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA
And again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

You might need to copy and paste the link. That does work. And once again we are back to why there are no Powhatans.


The song happens to be about killing Indians so am not sure why Google, Inc. made it's link invalid. The song shows the attitude that many Americans hold against Native Americans. The group in my opinion is making known how Native Americans have been treated. Yet the link has to be copied and pasted.


Yawn
17-02-2021 04:10
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Swan wrote:
James___ wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Trailers are for pussies who need to take their bed into the woods to pretend to rough it.

I have no intention of ever roughing it. I leave that to people who buy Apple and Google stock.

.


LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA
And again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

You might need to copy and paste the link. That does work. And once again we are back to why there are no Powhatans.


The song happens to be about killing Indians so am not sure why Google, Inc. made it's link invalid. The song shows the attitude that many Americans hold against Native Americans. The group in my opinion is making known how Native Americans have been treated. Yet the link has to be copied and pasted.


Yawn



Need a hug? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyy07BDo4xo
17-02-2021 04:31
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Swan wrote:LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place

LOL LOL I own the hospital. I ensure the padding in your cell meets standards. If there is ever a problem, my staff will contact my exec because I will probably be camping.

I took the liberty of decorating your cell. Let me know if you need anything else.

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17-02-2021 08:12
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So, deadly CO2, makes up about 0.0417% of the total atmosphere, and 'rising at an alarming rate'...

Approximately, what percentage of the atmosphere, is planet chilling Ozone? 0.00232%
17-02-2021 12:17
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Deadly CO2 is down to 390ppm where live
17-02-2021 13:51
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:LOL as if they let you out of the hospital in the first place

LOL LOL I own the hospital. I ensure the padding in your cell meets standards. If there is ever a problem, my staff will contact my exec because I will probably be camping.

I took the liberty of decorating your cell. Let me know if you need anything else.

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Glad to be your inspiration for being triggered.
17-02-2021 16:06
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Swan wrote:Glad to be your inspiration for being triggered.

LOL It looks like you have backed yourself into a padded corner LOL LOL

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17-02-2021 16:13
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HarveyH55 wrote:So, deadly CO2, makes up about 0.0417% of the total atmosphere, and 'rising at an alarming rate'...

CO2 only makes up about 0.0038% (you were missing a zero) of the atmosphere
at sea level. As you rise in elevation the percentage decreases drastically. CO2 is heavier than both the nitrogen (~80%) and the Oxygen (~20%) so it settles to the bottom, i.e. sea/ground level ... where it is consumed by plants.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-02-2021 18:12
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Glad to be your inspiration for being triggered.

LOL It looks like you have backed yourself into a padded corner LOL LOL

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Actually it looks like you are a triggered schizzo who is obsessed with me, but if that gives meaning to your existence, so be it.

Now tell us that I lost and you won something
17-02-2021 18:23
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:So, deadly CO2, makes up about 0.0417% of the total atmosphere, and 'rising at an alarming rate'...

CO2 only makes up about 0.0038% (you were missing a zero) of the atmosphere
at sea level. As you rise in elevation the percentage decreases drastically. CO2 is heavier than both the nitrogen (~80%) and the Oxygen (~20%) so it settles to the bottom, i.e. sea/ground level ... where it is consumed by plants.

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I went with the official Mauna Loa reading, guess they are still having some super-volcano activity on the big island...
17-02-2021 18:26
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Swan wrote: Actually it looks like you are a triggered schizzo who is obsessed with me,

That's why you are in a padded room.

Swan wrote: Now tell us that I lost and you won something

No way ... you're a winner.



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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-02-2021 18:36
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IBdaMann wrote:... I took the liberty of decorating your cell. Let me know if you need anything else.

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You should be very proud of this graphic. I just about died from laughter after seeing it.

Laughter is more deadly than covid.
17-02-2021 18:49
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:So, deadly CO2, makes up about 0.0417% of the total atmosphere, and 'rising at an alarming rate'...

CO2 only makes up about 0.0038% (you were missing a zero) of the atmosphere
at sea level. As you rise in elevation the percentage decreases drastically. CO2 is heavier than both the nitrogen (~80%) and the Oxygen (~20%) so it settles to the bottom, i.e. sea/ground level ... where it is consumed by plants.

.

God sure knew what he was doing when he created Earth (and its contents) and the surrounding heaven, eh?
17-02-2021 22:51
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: Actually it looks like you are a triggered schizzo who is obsessed with me,

That's why you are in a padded room.

Swan wrote: Now tell us that I lost and you won something

No way ... you're a winner.



.


Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me
18-02-2021 03:43
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Swan wrote:Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me

Lol any time you think you feel like discussing science, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following along with me.


.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
18-02-2021 07:15
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me

Lol any time you think you feel like discussing science, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following along with me.


.


Says the kid who does not know and or can not accept that heat is energy.

Yawn

What Are Delusions of Grandeur?
Types
Identifying them
Getting help
Takeaway
Overview

A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.

Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person's belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.

Delusions are generally the result of a mental health disorder. However, not all people with delusions meet the full diagnostic criteria for any mental health disorder.

Many types of mental health disorders classified as psychotic disorders can lead to delusions. These include:

schizophrenia
bipolar disorder
dementia
delirium
major depressive disorder with psychotic features
Psychotic disorders can change a person's sense of reality. They may be unable to tell what is real and what is not.

Types of delusions of grandeur
Any delusion has four main characteristics:

The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
The delusion impacts the person's daily life.
Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of:

Having a special ability, object, or talent
The person with the delusion may believe that they have a secret talent, object, or ability that no one else has or even knows about. For example, they may believe they possess a secret record from Elvis Presley that no one else knows about.

Being a famous person
A person with a delusion of grandeur may actually believe that they are a famous person and that the real famous person is an imposter or decoy.

Having a secret connection
This delusion involves believing in a special and sometimes secret connection or relationship with someone or something important. For example, a person with this delusion of grandeur may believe they are a spy or that they alone are responsible for relaying messages to the president or other world leaders.

Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.

Now lie back on the couch and tell us about your mommy
Edited on 18-02-2021 07:17
18-02-2021 16:09
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: Actually it looks like you are a triggered schizzo who is obsessed with me,

That's why you are in a padded room.

Swan wrote: Now tell us that I lost and you won something

No way ... you're a winner.



.


Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me

I don't believe you.
18-02-2021 16:10
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me

Lol any time you think you feel like discussing science, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following along with me.


.


Says the kid who does not know and or can not accept that heat is energy.

Yawn

What Are Delusions of Grandeur?
Types
Identifying them
Getting help
Takeaway
Overview

A delusion is a false belief held by a person. It contradicts reality or what is commonly considered true. The strength of a delusion is based on how much the person believes it.

Specifically, a delusion of grandeur is a person's belief that they are someone other than who they are, such as a supernatural figure or a celebrity. A delusion of grandeur may also be a belief that they have special abilities, possessions, or powers.

Delusions are generally the result of a mental health disorder. However, not all people with delusions meet the full diagnostic criteria for any mental health disorder.

Many types of mental health disorders classified as psychotic disorders can lead to delusions. These include:

schizophrenia
bipolar disorder
dementia
delirium
major depressive disorder with psychotic features
Psychotic disorders can change a person's sense of reality. They may be unable to tell what is real and what is not.

Types of delusions of grandeur
Any delusion has four main characteristics:

The person having the belief believes it to be true, even when the existing norm and other people know it to be untrue.
The person having the delusion will not listen to any other viewpoints about the belief and will not consider change when evidence challenges the delusion.
The content of the delusion is impossible or implausible.
The delusion impacts the person's daily life.
Delusions of grandeur can take many forms, such as beliefs of:

Having a special ability, object, or talent
The person with the delusion may believe that they have a secret talent, object, or ability that no one else has or even knows about. For example, they may believe they possess a secret record from Elvis Presley that no one else knows about.

Being a famous person
A person with a delusion of grandeur may actually believe that they are a famous person and that the real famous person is an imposter or decoy.

Having a secret connection
This delusion involves believing in a special and sometimes secret connection or relationship with someone or something important. For example, a person with this delusion of grandeur may believe they are a spy or that they alone are responsible for relaying messages to the president or other world leaders.

Religious grandeur
A person with a religious-themed delusion of grandeur may believe that they are a religious leader.

Now lie back on the couch and tell us about your mommy

Heat is not energy.

Yawn.

You are deluded LOL

Jeeze.

Stupid schizzo.
18-02-2021 16:19
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gfm7175 wrote:

Heat is not energy.




Anything that moves has energy. Einstein explained this when he posited
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18-02-2021 17:09
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

Heat is not energy.




Anything that moves has energy. Einstein explained this when he posited

Reading Comprehension 101:

"is not" "has"
18-02-2021 17:30
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

Heat is not energy.




Anything that moves has energy. Einstein explained this when he posited

Reading Comprehension 101:

"is not" "has"



energy = flow. Or to be simplistic about it, if heat is not energy, then we could not understand how much work it does. We could discuss how adding heat to water allows for 1200 psi steam and how a vacuum (is not energy) increases the amount of work that "heat" does. After all, a "vacuum" is an absence of energy yet in can increase the work that "heat" which is not energy does.
No thermodynamics for me Mom!! (borrowed from the movie Peggy Sue got married and the line No Jell-o for me mom which was shouted.
18-02-2021 17:41
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To be absurdly stoopid here people, DFM is burned in a "fire box". There are headers and risers. The headers link the riser tubes to a common source of condensate. There's also a "mud" drum and a steam drum. The pipes and drums are heated by a "flow" of energy from the burning DFM.
This in turns allows the pipes in the boiler to conduct "heat" into the condensate. And to further dry out the steam, there is a super heater that uses the energy in the exhaust gasses to further increase the KE of the water molecules in the flow of steam.
After steam moves past the nozzle block and through the high pressure turbine, it passes through the cross over pipe to the low pressure turbine. This turbine uses vacuum caused by the main condenser condensing steam to below water's flash point.
The low pressure turbine shows where removing "heat" content from water vapor produces work.
And this readily demonstrates IMHO that heat is energy. Heat's potential can easily be quantified as work. Just a little something I learned while going to school and having served in the US Navy and having read many books on physics which includes college text books.
And now if only I were an American. My service connected hearing loss has disqualified me from being one. It's like being found guilty of a crime that I didn't commit.

Edited on 18-02-2021 17:42
18-02-2021 19:33
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

Heat is not energy.




Anything that moves has energy. Einstein explained this when he posited

Reading Comprehension 101:

"is not" "has"


energy = flow. Or to be simplistic about it, if heat is not energy, then we could not understand how much work it does. We could discuss how adding heat to water allows for 1200 psi steam and how a vacuum (is not energy) increases the amount of work that "heat" does. After all, a "vacuum" is an absence of energy yet in can increase the work that "heat" which is not energy does.
No thermodynamics for me Mom!! (borrowed from the movie Peggy Sue got married and the line No Jell-o for me mom which was shouted.

No... energy flow. "Water" and "flow of water" are not the same thing, and neither are "energy" and "flow of energy". A flow of something is not the thing itself.
Edited on 18-02-2021 19:34
18-02-2021 21:02
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

Heat is not energy.




Anything that moves has energy. Einstein explained this when he posited

Reading Comprehension 101:

"is not" "has"


energy = flow. Or to be simplistic about it, if heat is not energy, then we could not understand how much work it does. We could discuss how adding heat to water allows for 1200 psi steam and how a vacuum (is not energy) increases the amount of work that "heat" does. After all, a "vacuum" is an absence of energy yet in can increase the work that "heat" which is not energy does.
No thermodynamics for me Mom!! (borrowed from the movie Peggy Sue got married and the line No Jell-o for me mom which was shouted.

No... energy flow. "Water" and "flow of water" are not the same thing, and neither are "energy" and "flow of energy". A flow of something is not the thing itself.



We're not discussing philosophy. A flow of water has energy as it is f = ma.
If heat is not a flow of something such as energy, then there is no flow. As such, it is a flow of electromagnetic radiation. Kinetic energy emitted/radiated by a body is electromagnetic energy. Basic science.
I think this is where your lack of learning about science shows itself. At the same time your perspective shows where philosophy doesn't understand science.

p.s., since we are discussing heat in the troposphere on the Earth, the emissions from anything in the troposphere will be electromagnetic energy. Thus the flow of heat is a flow of electromagnetic energy. That's staying on topic and out of philosophy.

Edited on 18-02-2021 21:57
RE: How to solve climate change?18-02-2021 21:32
JvJ
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Hello,

In my opinion climate change the most serious issue that our modern society faces. But obviously the actions that would cause an improvement seem to be very difficult and sometimes unpleasant, too. So I thought of how we can do something that is unconscious and also significantly improving our planet's state. Surprisingly, I found „Ecosia", a search engine and the biggest tree planter worldwide. With every research you can significantly contribute to reforestation projects in places where trees are most urgently needed. About 80% of the whole income by advertisements is donated for afforestation. Thus, it supports not only the environment, but also the economic, social and educational state of many third countries.
I think this is one of the easiest and most effective ways of solving global issues. If everybody uses this browser instead of conventional, commercial search engines like Google, the world will be quite a bit better.
I hope many people now start using „Ecosia" in order to contribute to a global change.
If you want to you can put this comment onto the forum that more people read it and stark using Ecosia as their new web browser.
Thank you!
19-02-2021 01:55
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: Actually it looks like you are a triggered schizzo who is obsessed with me,

That's why you are in a padded room.

Swan wrote: Now tell us that I lost and you won something

No way ... you're a winner.



.


Lol any time you think you feel like a 100 mile bike ride, you can hitch a cab because you will not be following me

I don't believe you.


Your beliefs are not my problem
19-02-2021 02:00
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Swan wrote:Your beliefs are not my problem

Exactly. Your beliefs are your problem.

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19-02-2021 02:01
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
JvJ wrote:
Hello,

In my opinion climate change the most serious issue that our modern society faces. But obviously the actions that would cause an improvement seem to be very difficult and sometimes unpleasant, too. So I thought of how we can do something that is unconscious and also significantly improving our planet's state. Surprisingly, I found „Ecosia", a search engine and the biggest tree planter worldwide. With every research you can significantly contribute to reforestation projects in places where trees are most urgently needed. About 80% of the whole income by advertisements is donated for afforestation. Thus, it supports not only the environment, but also the economic, social and educational state of many third countries.
I think this is one of the easiest and most effective ways of solving global issues. If everybody uses this browser instead of conventional, commercial search engines like Google, the world will be quite a bit better.
I hope many people now start using „Ecosia" in order to contribute to a global change.
If you want to you can put this comment onto the forum that more people read it and stark using Ecosia as their new web browser.
Thank you!


Look retard, plant your tree, just remember that another million trees are being cut or burned every minute.

Then talk to your tree
19-02-2021 02:07
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(9191)
Swan wrote:
JvJ wrote:
Hello,

In my opinion climate change the most serious issue that our modern society faces. But obviously the actions that would cause an improvement seem to be very difficult and sometimes unpleasant, too. So I thought of how we can do something that is unconscious and also significantly improving our planet's state. Surprisingly, I found „Ecosia", a search engine and the biggest tree planter worldwide. With every research you can significantly contribute to reforestation projects in places where trees are most urgently needed. About 80% of the whole income by advertisements is donated for afforestation. Thus, it supports not only the environment, but also the economic, social and educational state of many third countries.
I think this is one of the easiest and most effective ways of solving global issues. If everybody uses this browser instead of conventional, commercial search engines like Google, the world will be quite a bit better.
I hope many people now start using „Ecosia" in order to contribute to a global change.
If you want to you can put this comment onto the forum that more people read it and stark using Ecosia as their new web browser.
Thank you!


Look retard, plant your tree, just remember that another million trees are being cut or burned every minute.

Then talk to your tree
... and remember to give your tree a name before it becomes fuel.

.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
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