Mandatory vaccination

Xadoman wrote:
What would you do if the goverment makes the vaccination mandatory? Considering there is a real chance to die from vaccine due to the blood clot I would avoid the vaccine like plaque but if they make it mandatory and use force then how could a person protect against such violent vaccination? I have heard that the goverments of some countries are already considering it.

Weird cat..

Now women of childbearing years are dying from one of the vaccines

Xadoman wrote:

Now women of childbearing years are dying from one of the vaccines

I went to the hairdresser yesterday and we had a talk about covid and vaccinations. She said that one client told her about a relative whose girfriend in her twenties died only 2 days after the vaccination due to the blood clot. Such stories have not reached to the mainstream media for obvious reasons. I have a feeling that there are quite many people who have died from the blood clots due to vaccinatio but the goverment hides it at all costs. Instead they want us to belive that statistically more people die from blood clots they get from flying with an airplain.

gfm7175 wrote:
Thank you for another presentation of James babble.

duncan61 wrote:
We have gone into a 3 day lockdown as some prick from Melbourne turned up with Covid and wandered around for days infecting people.I can go to work but mask wearing is back on if you wish to go in public.

HarveyH55 wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
We have gone into a 3 day lockdown as some prick from Melbourne turned up with Covid and wandered around for days infecting people.I can go to work but mask wearing is back on if you wish to go in public.

It's the 'New Normal'... Every time somebody turns up with the 'sniffles', it'll be the same reaction. Two cases, you have an epidemic/outbreak, and they'll shut down the boards, curfews, hide in the basement... They won't wait for the test results, to find out which virus, caused the 'sniffles' symptoms. I don't expect it to really end, until people get fed up with the nonsense. Everyone in your country gets vaccinated, you still aren't 100% protected. You need to open the borders, to international travelers, both in and out. Which, will bring in 'variants', which the vaccines, may not be effective. Even those who got the shot, don't know if they created antibodies, or how long they last. It's not once, and done, as implied last year, to get everyone to cooperate, and comply. Not everyone, is going to hop in line every year, to get a booster. Specially, if the vaccines keep causing serious injuries, and deaths. It's seems a little more serious, than the health organizations are letting on. I think needing to go to the ER, for anything, is pretty serious. Apparently, vaccine ER 'visits' aren't that serious, if they don't need the ICU, or overnight stay.

HarveyH55 wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
We have gone into a 3 day lockdown as some prick from Melbourne turned up with Covid and wandered around for days infecting people.I can go to work but mask wearing is back on if you wish to go in public.

It's the 'New Normal'... Every time somebody turns up with the 'sniffles', it'll be the same reaction. Two cases, you have an epidemic/outbreak, and they'll shut down the boards, curfews, hide in the basement... They won't wait for the test results, to find out which virus, caused the 'sniffles' symptoms. I don't expect it to really end, until people get fed up with the nonsense. Everyone in your country gets vaccinated, you still aren't 100% protected. You need to open the borders, to international travelers, both in and out. Which, will bring in 'variants', which the vaccines, may not be effective. Even those who got the shot, don't know if they created antibodies, or how long they last. It's not once, and done, as implied last year, to get everyone to cooperate, and comply. Not everyone, is going to hop in line every year, to get a booster. Specially, if the vaccines keep causing serious injuries, and deaths. It's seems a little more serious, than the health organizations are letting on. I think needing to go to the ER, for anything, is pretty serious. Apparently, vaccine ER 'visits' aren't that serious, if they don't need the ICU, or overnight stay.

gfm7175 wrote:Indeed. What you are experiencing is the "new normal", duncan. So long as the majority of people keep playing along with this covid BS instead of actively and fiercely protesting it, the tyrants in government will continue to oppress the citizenry. If the majority of people would stop playing along with this covid BS, then the tyrants in government would no longer hold such a grasp over the citizenry.

Xadoman wrote:
What would you do if the goverment makes the vaccination mandatory? Considering there is a real chance to die from vaccine due to the blood clot I would avoid the vaccine like plaque but if they make it mandatory and use force then how could a person protect against such violent vaccination? I have heard that the goverments of some countries are already considering it.

duncan61 wrote:
It is not compulsory here in West Australia however if you refuse to be jabbed you can not have a government job or leave the state or fly anywhere which suits me just fine

S@ve0ur3arth wrote:I'm really sorry you are going through that situation in Australia, It's really really crazy what you're saying.

S@ve0ur3arth wrote:

Xadoman wrote:
What would you do if the goverment makes the vaccination mandatory? Considering there is a real chance to die from vaccine due to the blood clot I would avoid the vaccine like plaque but if they make it mandatory and use force then how could a person protect against such violent vaccination? I have heard that the goverments of some countries are already considering it.

If this happens, I would talk to my doctor so he could give me a hint about what could happen if I get the vacine. In any case, I would get it no matter what because I think this could be the only way to solve the COVID crisis.

gfm7175 wrote:What COVID crisis?

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:What COVID crisis?

Obviously he is referring to the fictitious one we created for ourselves, to give governments and politicians more power, more of our wealth and more control over us, our behavior and our personal lives.

It was a masterfully coordinated effort. We couldn't have done it without us.

gfm7175 wrote:I even saw a story now where a woman became paralyzed (I think from the waist down?) after receiving the covid jab.

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:I even saw a story now where a woman became paralyzed (I think from the waist down?) after receiving the covid jab.

Did they just not know where to jab her?

What confuses me is the discrepancy between these "horror stories" and my own experience. I am convinced that the COVID vaccinations are nothing but placebos designed to give Pfizer and others many $$Millions essentially for free while giving the appearance that the government is taking bold action.

I don't believe that there is anything in those vaccinations that can have any greater impact than vitamin-fortified water.

Now I will admit that my son and I were synchronized in our vaccinations, i.e. we both received our vaccinations on the same days, within minutes of each other, and my son reported feeling "a little bad" for a couple of hours on the next day following his second vaccination ... so it might be totally related to the vaccination and there might be some connection there. However, I felt absolutely no differently after either vaccination and my arm was only a tad sore from the jab itself.

I'm happy to report that I'm still alive and not paralyzed. I cannot recommend the vaccination, however, because I don't think it's a vaccine. I think it's a placebo.

Now I will admit that my son and I were synchronized in our vaccinations, i.e. we both received our vaccinations on the same days, within minutes of each other, and my son reported feeling "a little bad" for a couple of hours on the next day following his second vaccination ... so it might be totally related to the vaccination and there might be some connection there. However, I felt absolutely no differently after either vaccination and my arm was only a tad sore from the jab itself.

Xadoman wrote:

Now I will admit that my son and I were synchronized in our vaccinations, i.e. we both received our vaccinations on the same days, within minutes of each other, and my son reported feeling "a little bad" for a couple of hours on the next day following his second vaccination ... so it might be totally related to the vaccination and there might be some connection there. However, I felt absolutely no differently after either vaccination and my arm was only a tad sore from the jab itself.

What the hell happened to you? You fell for that scam/hoax? I am a little bit disappointed in you.

As a rule, I get all vaccinations

As a rule, I get all vaccinations

gfm7175 wrote:
I even saw a story now where a woman became paralyzed (I think from the waist down?) after receiving the covid jab.

Xadoman wrote:
Could somebody explain to me how do they differentiate between covid19 strains. What kind of measurement or test they use or is the difference visible under the electron microscope? What is a double mutant covid virus?

Xadoman wrote: What is a double mutant covid virus?

IBdaMann wrote:

Xadoman wrote: What is a double mutant covid virus?

It's undead COVID that the immune system thought it killed ... twice! ... but is actually unkillable zombie virus that keeps walking until you exhale it out of your body.

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

gfm7175 wrote:
It seems that the current strategy in the SOTC, SOTNY, SODC, and the more liberal localities within the SOA is to not so much attempt to make the covid jab mandatory, but more-so to make one's life as much of a living hell as possible until they succumb on their own accord to receiving the covid jab. For instance...

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

Oregon is now requiring businesses/workplaces to have someone at the door checking one's 'covid jab status' before allowing a person without a mask into their businesses/workplaces, otherwise those businesses/workplaces need to keep requiring mask wearing for all.

I would assume that a lot of rural Oregon is going to completely ignore this mandate. In fact, they seem quite eager to break away from Portland... I am just as eager for rural Wisconsin to break away from Madison and Milwaukee...

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It seems that the current strategy in the SOTC, SOTNY, SODC, and the more liberal localities within the SOA is to not so much attempt to make the covid jab mandatory, but more-so to make one's life as much of a living hell as possible until they succumb on their own accord to receiving the covid jab. For instance...

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

Oregon is now requiring businesses/workplaces to have someone at the door checking one's 'covid jab status' before allowing a person without a mask into their businesses/workplaces, otherwise those businesses/workplaces need to keep requiring mask wearing for all.

I would assume that a lot of rural Oregon is going to completely ignore this mandate. In fact, they seem quite eager to break away from Portland... I am just as eager for rural Wisconsin to break away from Madison and Milwaukee...

They SHOULD ignore this mandate. It is in violation of the 1st and 4th amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and of Article I, $2 and $9 of the Constitution of the State of Oregon.

Then again, this is the State that declared mathematics racist, and can't figure out how the average person can pump their own gas.

Into the Night wrote:
This is coming from Salem, not Portland, though Salem is heavily influenced by Portland, currently still in flames.

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It seems that the current strategy in the SOTC, SOTNY, SODC, and the more liberal localities within the SOA is to not so much attempt to make the covid jab mandatory, but more-so to make one's life as much of a living hell as possible until they succumb on their own accord to receiving the covid jab. For instance...

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

Oregon is now requiring businesses/workplaces to have someone at the door checking one's 'covid jab status' before allowing a person without a mask into their businesses/workplaces, otherwise those businesses/workplaces need to keep requiring mask wearing for all.

I would assume that a lot of rural Oregon is going to completely ignore this mandate. In fact, they seem quite eager to break away from Portland... I am just as eager for rural Wisconsin to break away from Madison and Milwaukee...

They SHOULD ignore this mandate. It is in violation of the 1st and 4th amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and of Article I, $2 and $9 of the Constitution of the State of Oregon.

Then again, this is the State that declared mathematics racist, and can't figure out how the average person can pump their own gas.

Bingo.

Into the Night wrote:
This is coming from Salem, not Portland, though Salem is heavily influenced by Portland, currently still in flames.

Correct. I should have said "Portland, Salem, Eugene, etc." or "the large cities", as that was the point I was trying to make but didn't word properly. But yes, the mandate is specifically coming from Salem, the capitol of Oregon.

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It seems that the current strategy in the SOTC, SOTNY, SODC, and the more liberal localities within the SOA is to not so much attempt to make the covid jab mandatory, but more-so to make one's life as much of a living hell as possible until they succumb on their own accord to receiving the covid jab. For instance...

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

Oregon is now requiring businesses/workplaces to have someone at the door checking one's 'covid jab status' before allowing a person without a mask into their businesses/workplaces, otherwise those businesses/workplaces need to keep requiring mask wearing for all.

I would assume that a lot of rural Oregon is going to completely ignore this mandate. In fact, they seem quite eager to break away from Portland... I am just as eager for rural Wisconsin to break away from Madison and Milwaukee...

They SHOULD ignore this mandate. It is in violation of the 1st and 4th amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and of Article I, $2 and $9 of the Constitution of the State of Oregon.

Then again, this is the State that declared mathematics racist, and can't figure out how the average person can pump their own gas.

Bingo.

Into the Night wrote:
This is coming from Salem, not Portland, though Salem is heavily influenced by Portland, currently still in flames.

Correct. I should have said "Portland, Salem, Eugene, etc." or "the large cities", as that was the point I was trying to make but didn't word properly. But yes, the mandate is specifically coming from Salem, the capitol of Oregon.

We just call it the 'wet side' and the 'dry side' here. The mandate is coming from the 'wet side'. It's rather likely the 'dry side' will just ignore it as much as possible (with the exception of Bend, which has gone over the top stupid).

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It seems that the current strategy in the SOTC, SOTNY, SODC, and the more liberal localities within the SOA is to not so much attempt to make the covid jab mandatory, but more-so to make one's life as much of a living hell as possible until they succumb on their own accord to receiving the covid jab. For instance...

"PAPERS, PLEASE!!"

Oregon is now requiring businesses/workplaces to have someone at the door checking one's 'covid jab status' before allowing a person without a mask into their businesses/workplaces, otherwise those businesses/workplaces need to keep requiring mask wearing for all.

I would assume that a lot of rural Oregon is going to completely ignore this mandate. In fact, they seem quite eager to break away from Portland... I am just as eager for rural Wisconsin to break away from Madison and Milwaukee...

They SHOULD ignore this mandate. It is in violation of the 1st and 4th amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and of Article I, $2 and $9 of the Constitution of the State of Oregon.

Then again, this is the State that declared mathematics racist, and can't figure out how the average person can pump their own gas.

Bingo.

Into the Night wrote:
This is coming from Salem, not Portland, though Salem is heavily influenced by Portland, currently still in flames.

Correct. I should have said "Portland, Salem, Eugene, etc." or "the large cities", as that was the point I was trying to make but didn't word properly. But yes, the mandate is specifically coming from Salem, the capitol of Oregon.

We just call it the 'wet side' and the 'dry side' here. The mandate is coming from the 'wet side'. It's rather likely the 'dry side' will just ignore it as much as possible (with the exception of Bend, which has gone over the top stupid).

Ahhhhh, makes sense. We don't really have that sort of experience over here so we don't use that kind of language.