Vaccination Mandate, update...

NEW ORLEANS — A federal appeals court on Saturday temporarily halted theBiden administration's vaccine requirement for businesses with 100 or more workers.
The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted an emergency stay of the requirement by the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration that those workers be vaccinated by Jan. 4 or face mask requirements and weekly tests.
Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said the action stops Democrat President Joe Biden "from moving forward with his unlawful overreach."
"The president will not impose medical procedures on the American people without the checks and balances afforded by the constitution," said a statement from Landry, a Republican.
Such circuit decisions normally apply to states within a district — Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas, in this case — but Landry said the language employed by the judges gave the decision a national scope.
"This is a great victory for the American people out there. Never before has the federal government tried in a such a forceful way to get between the choices of an American citizen and their doctor. To me that's the heart of the entire issue," he said.
The Biden administration had no immediate comment.
At least 27 states filed lawsuits challenging the rule in several circuits, some of which were made more conservative by the judicial appointments of former Republican President Donald Trump.
The Biden administration has been encouraging widespread vaccinations as the quickest way to end the pandemic that has claimed more than 750,000 lives in the United States.
The administration says it is confident that the requirement, which includes penalties of nearly $14,000 per violation, will withstand legal challenges in part because its safety rules pre-empt state laws.
The 5th Circuit, based in New Orleans, said it was delaying the federal vaccine requirement because of potential "grave statutory and constitutional issues" raised by the plaintiffs. The government must provide an expedited reply to the motion for a permanent injunction Monday, followed by the petitioners' reply on Tuesday.

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/appeals-court-stays-vaccine-mandate-on-larger-businesses

[quote]NEW ORLEANS — A federal appeals court on Saturday temporarily halted theBiden administration's vaccine requirement for businesses with 100 or more workers.

keepit wrote:Hopefully vaccine mandates will become a less important issue when the new antiviral comes out in the next couple of months (hopefully).

keepit wrote:
Hopefully vaccine mandates will become a less important issue when the new antiviral comes out in the next couple of months (hopefully).

HarveyH55 wrote:The antivirals are a theoretic, not a preventative. You have to actually be infected, before being given the antivirals.

keepit wrote:
Hopefully vaccine mandates will become a less important issue when the new antiviral comes out in the next couple of months (hopefully).

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:The antivirals are a theoretic, not a preventative. You have to actually be infected, before being given the antivirals.

I believe the word you seek is "remedial."

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HarveyH55 wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:The antivirals are a theoretic, not a preventative. You have to actually be infected, before being given the antivirals.

I believe the word you seek is "remedial."

Therapeutic....

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
Hopefully vaccine mandates will become a less important issue when the new antiviral comes out in the next couple of months (hopefully).

The antivirals are a theoretic, not a preventative. You have to actually be infected, before being given the antivirals. They are likely to be expensive as well, so only given to severe cases, or to the rich and famous...

The pandemic is not about a virus, but to exploit for political power and control. It's essentially a cold virus. The fatalities are people with more serious issues, complicate by having the sniffles on top of all their other medical problems.

It's likely Biden's mandate will get shot down. Businesses had already taken effective precautions in 2020, to stay open for business. There is no workplace virus crisis, requiring OSHA to step in. The pandemic isn't an occupational hazard for most businesses. It's overreach, and Abuse of Power, though no impeachment is likely. I'm pretty sure that Team Biden knew that the mandate would be challenged, and eventually fail. Just like the Trump impeachments. Biden hopes that many businesses will comply before the deadline, and of course, before a permanent injunction.

keepit wrote:gfm, I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin.

keepit wrote: Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - a government agency that would lie to me in a heartbeat if it thought doing so would garner for the government greater power and more taxes, or someone who is opposed to government tyranny?

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

keepit wrote:ibd, the fact that you modify my posts is evidence of who you are.

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too

keepit wrote:
but he's misinformed about ivermectin.

keepit wrote:
Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

keepit wrote:
ibd,
the fact that you modify my posts is evidence of who you are.

IBdaMann wrote:

keepit wrote:ibd, the fact that you modify my posts is evidence of who you are.

I apologize for any insights into your moronic positions that my transcribing errors might have caused.

Perhaps you should try focusing on what I am saying rather than on the manner in which I effectively say it.

One of the aspects of message boards that you were too stupid to learn is that anyone can go back to your posts and read what you actually wrote. I cannot alter your posts. You shouldn't whine and moan and gripe and complain and cry and snivel and bawl like a baby over my having done something that I cannot do.

You are an idiot.

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keepit wrote:
gfm,
Your political bias is affecting your judgement.

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

keepit wrote:
ibd,
the fact that you modify my posts is evidence of who you are.

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

I haven't read into Ivermectin, other than veterinarians use it for intestinal parasites. Which may just be one possible use. The left, likes to omit anything that doesn't support their agenda... There are a lot of drugs, that have multiple uses, the difference is in the dosage. Not all usages ever get FDA approval, but are well documented. It costs a lot of money to get FDA approval. I'm not really into doing drugs, but know there are cheaper alternatives to expensive prescriptions, which old people often discuss...

keepit wrote:
gfm,
Your political bias is affecting your judgement.

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

I haven't read into Ivermectin, other than veterinarians use it for intestinal parasites. Which may just be one possible use. The left, likes to omit anything that doesn't support their agenda... There are a lot of drugs, that have multiple uses, the difference is in the dosage. Not all usages ever get FDA approval, but are well documented. It costs a lot of money to get FDA approval. I'm not really into doing drugs, but know there are cheaper alternatives to expensive prescriptions, which old people often discuss...

Ivermectin is approved for both animal and human use.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

I haven't read into Ivermectin, other than veterinarians use it for intestinal parasites. Which may just be one possible use. The left, likes to omit anything that doesn't support their agenda... There are a lot of drugs, that have multiple uses, the difference is in the dosage. Not all usages ever get FDA approval, but are well documented. It costs a lot of money to get FDA approval. I'm not really into doing drugs, but know there are cheaper alternatives to expensive prescriptions, which old people often discuss...

Ivermectin is approved for both animal and human use.

I figured the left just latched onto the most common, and absurd usage.

gfm7175 wrote:In this case, liberals have purposely cherry picked one single and specific use (of many different uses) for ivermectin

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
gfm,
I'm a fan of aaron rodgers too but he's misinformed about ivermectin. Basically you have to ask your self, who do i want to take medical advice from - the FDA or the internet?

I haven't read into Ivermectin, other than veterinarians use it for intestinal parasites. Which may just be one possible use. The left, likes to omit anything that doesn't support their agenda... There are a lot of drugs, that have multiple uses, the difference is in the dosage. Not all usages ever get FDA approval, but are well documented. It costs a lot of money to get FDA approval. I'm not really into doing drugs, but know there are cheaper alternatives to expensive prescriptions, which old people often discuss...

Ivermectin is approved for both animal and human use.

I figured the left just latched onto the most common, and absurd usage.

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:In this case, liberals have purposely cherry picked one single and specific use (of many different uses) for ivermectin

Mmmmmmm, Ivermectin-glazed bacon!

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