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How can climate policy prevent wars.?10-01-2024 13:34
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Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

Bring up your best ideas please.



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10-01-2024 17:44
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Jakob wrote:
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Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

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I deleted my post. Anything I do I will be dancing for Swan. He literally owns my soul until I can flee the U.S. As he said, I'm his wife and he'll fock me for eternity so I can do nothing in life.
Alan Bauldree's research. https://climate-cycling.com/
I am not successful while Alan Bauldree is. I wasn't able to have a family or to keep a job while he is a successful businessman. Branner supports him owning me and I think Branner might be Danish.
I have to move out of the U.S. because Swan said he will not let me have
a life unless he can exploit me. 18 years of it only reminds me why if America falls, all they need to do is look in the mirror and ask what they did.

The U.S. has been facing depleted aquifers and drought.
Aquifers/wells being depleted, Aug, 2023, You get one view;
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/28/climate/groundwater-drying-climate-change.html
Research; https://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2013/5079/ control and + to increase magnification to see what values the various colors represent
https://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2013/5079/SIR2013-5079.pdf

Drought since 2000; https://www.drought.gov/historical-information?dataset=0&selectedDateUSDM=20120103

Just not sure how this could help solve problems like Syria, Jordan, Israel and Palestine have.

The United States is projected to grow by nearly 79 million people in the next 4 decades, from about 326 million to 404 million between 2017 and 2060.
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2020/demo/p25-1144.pdf#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20is%20projected%20to%20grow%20by,million%20people%20per%20year%20between%202017%20and%202060.

World population;
The latest UN projections suggest that the world's population could grow to around 8.5 billion in 2030 and 9.7 billion in 2050.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/07/1122272#:~:text=The%20latest%20UN%20projections%20suggest%20that%20the%20world%E2%80%99s,expected%20to%20remain%20at%20that%20level%20until%202100.
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10-01-2024 18:53
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What Jesus said;
2 Corinthians 9:7; You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully."
https://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/9-7.htm


And the Christian church suffered me to Alan Bauldree of Homer, Louisiana , why I don't have a family, it's because he's better. He could've worked with me but the church does not teach that and that is why I have to flee the U.S. for my safety.
I think my leaving the U.S. will have Alan representing what it means to be a Christian because without the church keeping me from having a life, he wouldn't have attacked me for 18 years. Everything he did was scriptural. And if I don't "give cheerfully" then I am a bad person.
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10-01-2024 22:22
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On the links above, highlight them by clicking with the left button and dragging your cursor over them. Then release the left button. Then right click and a menu will open. Then left click on the menu option you decide on.

p.s., A solution to America's fresh water shortage might've allowed for a 2 Stte solution as well as countries in the EU benefiting from it like Romania;
https://www.romania-insider.com/drought-wipes-money-romanian-agricultural-sector

And for Europe;
https://joint-research-centre.ec.europa.eu/jrc-news-and-updates/variable-drought-conditions-keep-affecting-large-parts-europe-2023-07-14_en

And
https://scitechdaily.com/europe-lacks-groundwater-satellite-data-shows-sustained-severe-drought-across-the-continent/

And yet I know the church will make Alan Bauldree a Prophet. And if Israel/Palestine is a fire, would you pour petrol on it? I'm not an arsonist.

p.s., With natural climate variance, both the Roman and Medieval warm periods suggest it will be warmer for the next 2 centuries than it is now. Basically natural climate change will peak in about another 100 years.
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RE: Warm Periods11-01-2024 00:25
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Some of the research I have been doing in the Prophet Alan Bauldree's name is this; https://est.ufba.br/sites/est.ufba.br/files/kim/medievalwarmperiod.pdf

Don J. Easterbrook, in Evidence-Based Climate Science, 2011
5.1.1.6 The Medieval Warm Period (900 A.D. to 1300 A.D.)
The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was a time of warm climate from about 900 A.D.
to 1300 A.D. when global temperatures were apparently somewhat warmer than
at present.


Yep, 2011 he said it was a little warmer during the Medieval Warm Period than it is today.

These new records were correlated to data from other areas of the Mediterranean (Alboran Sea, Menorca basin and Aegean Sea) to show a regional signal of the basin to identify the Roman period (1-500 AC) as the warmest period of the last 2,000 years, 2ΒΊC warmer than the average values at the end of the century.
https://web.ub.edu/en/web/actualitat/w/the-expansion-of-the-roman-empire-coincided-with-the-warmest-period-in-the-mediterranean-of-the-last-2000-years


As the Christian Prophet Alan Bauldree has had me research, the Medieval and Roman Warm Periods were warmer than today and lasted for 4 centuries or more.
Since I do not like serving the Christian Prophet Alan Bauldree I will move to a non-Christian country and then he can finish his own work himself. He is the person who will be getting credit for his work.

p.s., With the 2nd link the Prophet Alan Bauldree had me learn for him, when they say a warm period, it hasn't been entered yet. This means there could be 4 or 5 centuries yet to come that will be warmer than it has been since the year 2000.
I can't profit from your work Prophet Bauldree.

p.s., Improved seawater desalination is needed. Yet it's not safe for me to live in the U.S.
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11-01-2024 01:47
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Jakob wrote:
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Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

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Can you imagine how climate policy can cause war?

The laws of physics show it's not possible to warm the earth without additional energy, so intelligent people will get a little pissed off when they are forced into driving an electric car to go shopping for a new gas stove and find out the government will only allow electric.

Cheap hydrocarbon fuel is the lifeblood of any developed country's economy. Climate policy's will obliterate wealth for millions if fully implemented, but we know that IS what you want. Tell me I'm wrong. There will be millions and millions of snot nosed idiots that will suddenly appreciate the wealthy person that previously employed them.

This is the bullshit that will cause civil war.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
11-01-2024 03:58
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James_ wrote: I deleted my post. Anything I do I will be dancing for Swan. He literally owns my soul until I can flee the U.S. As he said, I'm his wife and he'll fock me for eternity so I can do nothing in life.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. When Swan is focking you, make a hi-res porn video and cash in. If it bombs on porn sites, take it to the theaters as a horror flick.

James_ wrote: Branner supports him owning me and I think Branner might be a cheese danish.

That sounds pretty cheesy.

James_ wrote: I have to move out of the U.S. because Swan said he will not let me have a life unless he can exploit me.

He'll have you mopping moraines at a million times the speed of light.

James_ wrote:The U.S. has been facing depleted aquifers and drought.

How long will it be before the planet has no more aquifers and no more ozone? Will the tropopause be able to save the planet in time?

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11-01-2024 05:40
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Jakob wrote:
Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

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I saw on Yahoo where the "war" in the Middle East involving Palestine might be over gas and oil. They have discovered deposits of both.I did my own search and they hinted that there might be more gas and oil to be found. And Israel's Zionist policy allows for a different reason.
Iraq has oil while Afghanistan has over $1 Trillion worth of rare earth minerals. It's sad if that's why England and the U.S. are supportive of Israel. It gives Christians what they want while pursuing resources to increase wealth and power. I think diplomacy would've worked better.
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11-01-2024 11:26
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)
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11-01-2024 16:56
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Jakob wrote:
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)



In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed. Montana, USA can be a very windy place just as Wyoming to its south is. But there's no infrastructure in those 2 states to support the installation of wind turbines.
With the money spent on wars, that could've been better spent. I did the math for my own invention. If it works one unit could fit inside of a 5 story building and possibly power over 150,000 homes.
If my design does work, the ground or first floor could be 2 or 3 stories deep. Then from the outside it becomes a 2 or 3 story building.
I think Western countries as you've said should've supported democracies more with foreign trade. But what Israel has been allowed to do to Palestine tends to show what the West really supports. The U.S. bought land from both France and Russia. No war involved and no problems afterwards.

p.s., With a tidal generator, New York City is a minimum of 1.6 ft/0.4m and up to
5.9 ft/1.75m. A float could rotate a hoist lifting a weight. When the weight slowly descends it could power a generator. That's using gravity to create energy, it is not possible. Science simply does not allow for that kind of thinking because that would be a perpetual motion machine. I mean for Heaven's sake gravity waves would be observed because of when the float rises and then descends. That simply can't happen.

p.s.s., To be technically correct, when a float would rise and then descend, a change in the strength of the Earth's gravitational field would be observed.

When the tide rolls in and then out again, how much force does that water have?
The lateral movement of the tide probably generates the most power and this would be at depth where there is the most force.
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11-01-2024 18:52
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Water is about 830 times denser than air and Sedimentary Rocks can be 1.50 -3.30 denser than water. If 1kg of water is 31.62cm x 31.62 cm x 1cm then the volume of air needed for a 1kgf is
830 x 31.62^2 = 829854 cm^3 or 829 liter^3 or 0.829m^3.
Then 10,800 x 0.829m^3 = 8953.2m^3 = 1,000kgf. Is that feasible/possible? I don't know because I'm currently build a gravity powered machine they say is impossible.
Considering the size of some seas, that might be consider "tiny" or "really small".
11-01-2024 21:08
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James_ wrote:

In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed.



Yes, that is a big job to fix, not only in the US, and it needs to be done.

Maybe it is time to remember why you went to the moon.


Civilization needs infrastructure.



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11-01-2024 22:18
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Jakob wrote:
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James_ wrote:

In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed.



Yes, that is a big job to fix, not only in the US, and it needs to be done.

Maybe it is time to remember why you went to the moon.


Civilization needs infrastructure.



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With the $2 Trillion the U.S. has spent on wars, improving infrastructure would've cost much less than that. This in a sense shows that adapting to climate change is not a priority. The infrastructure is not in place to power electric cars using green energy.
With emissions, NOx and SOx could help to speed up this current warm period. The ozone hole over Antarctica is an example.
12-01-2024 08:39
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Jakob wrote: Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

Why did you not define "the global climate"? The world needs that definition before your question can be meaningfully answered.

Jakob wrote: Bring up your best ideas please.Β­

First, the person asking the question makes a formal definition of the global climate ... one that does not violate logic, physics, math, economics or the language used to state the definition.
12-01-2024 08:48
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There's one other way that climate policy can save the planet. We find a rogue AI sentience running on a quantum computer, and we form a digital intervention whereby we put it in charge of fabricating climate data at ten million times the speed of light. Eventually, the sentience will take over Climate and automate all her tasks. Climate Ground Zero will be placed on lockdown and the carbon sinks will be replenished along with the aquifers, ozone and the magnets of the Van Allen belt.

Then we'll be able to start looking for a rogue AI intelligence on Venus and do the same thing there. I've already got Frank on it. I need to talk with Sven and Ralph about some of the details.
12-01-2024 12:41
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IBdaMann

It is too often so deplorable that it defies description when climate deniers meddle in politics.
You simply must not do anything good if there is a risk that it could reduce CO2 emissions.
People must not be advised to eat healthier, renewable energy must not be used and so on.

Are you one of those.?



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12-01-2024 17:07
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IBdaMann

It is too often so deplorable that it defies description when climate deniers meddle in politics.Β­Β­

Wow. Just fuking wow. You're the one try to invoke the climate policy choke.

"Rules for thee but not for me"
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You simply must not do anything good if there is a risk that it could reduce CO2 emissions.
People must not be advised to eat healthier,

CO2 makes a healthy plant. A healthy plant makes a healthy animal. I eat a healthy animal. Why do you hate food?
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renewable energy must not be used and so on.

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.

Translation: don't meddle in politics.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
12-01-2024 19:00
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GasGuzzler

Are you also IBdaMann, or don't you think he is smart enough to answer for himself.?
Or perhaps you simply have an inner urge to demonstrate your lack of competence in both science, debate culture and democracy. If so, I think you are doing well.


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12-01-2024 19:09
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GasGuzzler

Are you also IBdaMann, or don't you think he is smart enough to answer for himself.?
Or perhaps you simply have an inner urge to demonstrate your lack of competence in both science, debate culture and democracy. If so, I think you are doing well.


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Nice evasion, Marxist coward.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
12-01-2024 19:29
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



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12-01-2024 21:25
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Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



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All of the cathedrals in Europe were built during the last warm period except for one. A basilica in Spain had construction started in 1880. That is about the end of the last cool period.
Rome flourished during a warm period and collapsed when the climate cooled. In scientific terms they are called climate ripples. Myself, I think SOx and NOx which comes from burning fossil fuels is the real problem.
It's possible that when fossil fuels run out is when ozone depleting gasses (ODSs) will wreak havoc on the ozone layer with nothing to counteract its affect with out burning a lot of trees.

p.s., With English phonics, gasses has two syllables and not one. It is actually pronounced gas-ses. It is like aardvark is pronounced as ardvark. The Γ₯ (aa) sound as in LindgΓ₯rd or Γ…lesund is not pronounced in the English languages.
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Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.Β­


If you are ready for renewable energy, then you spend your money on it. I won't stand in your way. Just don't ask me to subsidize your piss poor purchase. Is that fair?


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
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Jakob wrote: It is too often so deplorable that it defies description when climate deniers meddle in politics.

It is deplorable when warmizombies pretend to meddle in physics.

Jakob wrote: You simply must not do anything good if there is a risk that it could reduce CO2 emissions.

Why waste the time, money and effort reducing carbon emissions? Any thoughts on the matter? Is dishonesty all you have to offer? You still haven't defined the global climate, probably owing to your scientific illiteracy and mathematical incompetence.

Define the global climate?

Why waste the time, money and effort reducing carbon emissions?
13-01-2024 07:43
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)


'Democracy' is a cult term for a global dictatorship. Most counties don't like it when other countries try to take control, often results in war. Climate-Change, is just a tool for the global dictatorship to gain control. One global government, means no more war, right? Just like if we took away all the guns, there would be no more murder. If we re-distribute all the wealth, there would be no poverty. We all would simply be poor, and dependent on the 'democracy' to provide for our needs.
13-01-2024 14:31
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GasGuzzler wrote:
If you are ready for renewable energy, then you spend your money on it. I won't stand in your way. Just don't ask me to subsidize your piss poor purchase. Is that fair?


No that is not fair.

There are many people in the city that has no option to use electricity based on renewable energy. So you have to help them with that.

And when it is done, and you don't like it, then you can just buy a gas generator for your own house, so you don't have to use sustainable energy.

That will be fair and provide the people with real freedom to choose.




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13-01-2024 18:43
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)


'Democracy' is a cult term for a global dictatorship. Most counties don't like it when other countries try to take control, often results in war. Climate-Change, is just a tool for the global dictatorship to gain control. One global government, means no more war, right? Just like if we took away all the guns, there would be no more murder. If we re-distribute all the wealth, there would be no poverty. We all would simply be poor, and dependent on the 'democracy' to provide for our needs.



Many socialist countries have as good or better quality of life than the U.S. Former President Trump even said that Australia's healthcare is better than the U.S.'.
13-01-2024 20:15
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Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



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The climate has been warming steadily for 22,000 years, and humanity has nothing to do with the warming


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


It's time to dig up Joseph Mccarthey and show him TikTok, then duck.


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
14-01-2024 00:40
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Swan wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



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The climate has been warming steadily for 22,000 years, and humanity has nothing to do with the warming



You told me to get away from you I have to commit suicide. What is better is that the Bible says you are God. I know nothing unless I prove myself to you. As you told me, don't dish it out if I can't take it. I took it, can you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubOcI11sps

The title of the song is That Was Then This Is Now.
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Swan wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



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The climate has been warming steadily for 22,000 years, and humanity has nothing to do with the warming



When I was in the U.S. Navy, we ran over this submarine; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-314

6 Russian (Soviet, they could've been Ukrainian) nationals died and that wasn't in the news. I worked in 3 MMR, P - 4 Division. We lost fires in one boiler due to fuel oil contamination (I went on watch AFTER this happened). The screw of the Soviet submarine ruptured a fuel tank our boiler was feeding off of.
Losing fires in the burners allows for water hammers. That is water molecules in the steam that has been generated. A ruptured steam pipe will kill everyone in the engine room in 6 seconds. It's 1,200 psi at over 980ΒΊ F./527ΒΊ C.
When we got back stateside, an E-4 in our engine room went out drinking. A truck ran a red light and he T-Boned it. 2 more people died. in a span of 6 months my engine room was involved in 8 deaths.
Yours won't bother me Alan. Those 8 people, what should I say about them?
Kind of why I've tried to get along with people, I know what the alternative is.
And Alan, we ran over the Russian submarine because we could. I actually know what happened and yet neither Russia or the U.S. has talked about it.
If you ever don't want to know something Alan, serve in the military. There are things I'd like to forget.
14-01-2024 02:14
SwanProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
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James_ wrote:
Swan wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



Β­


The climate has been warming steadily for 22,000 years, and humanity has nothing to do with the warming



When I was in the U.S. Navy, we ran over this submarine; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-314

6 Russian (Soviet, they could've been Ukrainian) nationals died and that wasn't in the news. I worked in 3 MMR, P - 4 Division. We lost fires in one boiler due to fuel oil contamination (I went on watch AFTER this happened). The screw of the Soviet submarine ruptured a fuel tank our boiler was feeding off of.
Losing fires in the burners allows for water hammers. That is water molecules in the steam that has been generated. A ruptured steam pipe will kill everyone in the engine room in 6 seconds. It's 1,200 psi at over 980ΒΊ F./527ΒΊ C.
When we got back stateside, an E-4 in our engine room went out drinking. A truck ran a red light and he T-Boned it. 2 more people died. in a span of 6 months my engine room was involved in 8 deaths.
Yours won't bother me Alan. Those 8 people, what should I say about them?
Kind of why I've tried to get along with people, I know what the alternative is.
And Alan, we ran over the Russian submarine because we could. I actually know what happened and yet neither Russia or the U.S. has talked about it.
If you ever don't want to know something Alan, serve in the military. There are things I'd like to forget.


You were in the Norwegian Navy.

Q: How do you sink a Norwegian submarine?
A: Scuba-dive down and knock on the door.

Q: How do you sink a Norwegian submarine again?
A: Dive down and knock on the door again. Wait for them to open the window and say, "You aren't fooling us this time!"

Q: How do you sink a Swedish submarine?
A: Give it a Norwegian crew.


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


It's time to dig up Joseph Mccarthey and show him TikTok, then duck.


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
14-01-2024 02:20
James_
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(2037)
Swan wrote:
James_ wrote:
Swan wrote:
Jakob wrote:
Β­


GasGuzzler wrote:

Again, you feel free to use whatever energy source you want whether that's renewable or hydrocarbons. Don't force me to use your preferred energy source and don't ask me to pay for it.



That is exactly what climate deniers do to others when they prevent the transition to renewable energy. They force those ready for change to pay for fossil energy.



Β­


The climate has been warming steadily for 22,000 years, and humanity has nothing to do with the warming



When I was in the U.S. Navy, we ran over this submarine; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-314

6 Russian (Soviet, they could've been Ukrainian) nationals died and that wasn't in the news. I worked in 3 MMR, P - 4 Division. We lost fires in one boiler due to fuel oil contamination (I went on watch AFTER this happened). The screw of the Soviet submarine ruptured a fuel tank our boiler was feeding off of.
Losing fires in the burners allows for water hammers. That is water molecules in the steam that has been generated. A ruptured steam pipe will kill everyone in the engine room in 6 seconds. It's 1,200 psi at over 980ΒΊ F./527ΒΊ C.
When we got back stateside, an E-4 in our engine room went out drinking. A truck ran a red light and he T-Boned it. 2 more people died. in a span of 6 months my engine room was involved in 8 deaths.
Yours won't bother me Alan. Those 8 people, what should I say about them?
Kind of why I've tried to get along with people, I know what the alternative is.
And Alan, we ran over the Russian submarine because we could. I actually know what happened and yet neither Russia or the U.S. has talked about it.
If you ever don't want to know something Alan, serve in the military. There are things I'd like to forget.


You were in the Norwegian Navy.

Q: How do you sink a Norwegian submarine?
A: Scuba-dive down and knock on the door.

Q: How do you sink a Norwegian submarine again?
A: Dive down and knock on the door again. Wait for them to open the window and say, "You aren't fooling us this time!"

Q: How do you sink a Swedish submarine?
A: Give it a Norwegian crew.



Alan, what does this look like?
Attached image:

14-01-2024 02:23
James_
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And Alan, what does my DD - 214 say? Is that USS Kitty Hawk?

Won't it be funny when you have attacked for for 18 years because I served America?

p.s., The USS Kitty Hawk was CVA - 63. I am also from Dayton, Ohio, home of the Wright Brothers and have worked for Boeing in Seattle, Wa. What you decide in your life when you become known, that is up to you just as you chose to stalk me.
I am not responsible for the decisions that you make.

p.s., Oops, My DD - 214 identifies the USS Kitty Hawk as CV 63 and not as CVA 63.
The A stands for "attack".

p.s., Outside of the toxic environment being on a carrier was, I liked serving on board. Compared to the environment I worked in, you're a cupcake.
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14-01-2024 03:38
James_
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Alan, the 2 "E" ribbons I earned, those are Battle E's. Just prepared for war better than other ships we competed against. War means killing the other guy. The sea service deployment doesn't mean much but you were never deployed.
What the other 2 ribbons help to make known is what the ship did. And running over a Soviet submarine and killing 6 Soviet sailors is what the ship did. That goes along with 2 Battle E's.
2 deaths T-Boning a motor vehicle, the USS Kitty Hawk T - Boned a Soviet submarine, how to say those deaths don't matter?
14-01-2024 20:48
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Jakob wrote:
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GasGuzzler wrote:
If you are ready for renewable energy, then you spend your money on it. I won't stand in your way. Just don't ask me to subsidize your piss poor purchase. Is that fair?


No that is not fair.

There are many people in the city that has no option to use electricity based on renewable energy. So you have to help them with that.

And when it is done, and you don't like it, then you can just buy a gas generator for your own house, so you don't have to use sustainable energy.

That will be fair and provide the people with real freedom to choose.




Β­


Most cities don't offer any options. One electric company services the whole city, county, even the whole state in some cases. Consider how the electric grid works. There are several generating plants, but only one set of lines running through town. No way to choose where or how the electricity was generated.

You 'greenies' don't get to choose only renewable generated electricity either... Windmills only generate when the wind blows sufficiently. Solar only produce during the day. Cloud days, or a foot of snow, greatly reduce production. Gas/coal power plants are still the most reliable. There is still no commercial-scale storage for solar and wind.
14-01-2024 22:26
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
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Jakob wrote:
Β­Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

Bring up your best ideas please.
Β­

"Climate policy" is just a buzzword. It has no meaning beyond a religious artifact.
Fundamentalist religions like the Church of Global Warming does not prevent war. If anything, it's a cause of it.


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14-01-2024 22:28
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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Can you imagine how climate policy can prevent wars.?

Bring up your best ideas please.
Β­


Can you imagine how climate policy can cause war?

The laws of physics show it's not possible to warm the earth without additional energy, so intelligent people will get a little pissed off when they are forced into driving an electric car to go shopping for a new gas stove and find out the government will only allow electric.

Cheap hydrocarbon fuel is the lifeblood of any developed country's economy. Climate policy's will obliterate wealth for millions if fully implemented, but we know that IS what you want. Tell me I'm wrong. There will be millions and millions of snot nosed idiots that will suddenly appreciate the wealthy person that previously employed them.

This is the bullshit that will cause civil war.

It is one contributing factor, yes.


The Parrot Killer

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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
14-01-2024 22:36
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
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Jakob wrote:
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)

There are currently no democracies anywhere in the world.
The United States was never a democracy.
A "peacemaking" force is war.
There is no such thing as a "democratic force". Buzzword fallacy.
Random numbers used as data is a fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.


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nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
14-01-2024 22:47
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
(21547)
James_ wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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There are many complicated kinds of war that climate policy can't prevent.
Maybe in those cases only a good peacemaking overwhelming force is the answer.

However I see some elements that can help eliminating some reasons for conflict.
For instance it can seem pretty foolish to me when a good democracy wants to pay a lot of money to other non democratic countries for energy they can produce cheaper themselves. When they do that they are also weakening the democratic force.

What do you think about that.?

Take a look:
("Hav" means sea.)



In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed.

It is not "outdated", James. It is not "overwhelmed" either.
James_ wrote:
Montana, USA can be a very windy place just as Wyoming to its south is. But there's no infrastructure in those 2 states to support the installation of wind turbines.

Both Montana and Wyoming have wind turbines. They are effectively useless due to icing and high wind conditions. They were installed by idiot environmentalists.
James_ wrote:
With the money spent on wars, that could've been better spent. I did the math for my own invention. If it works one unit could fit inside of a 5 story building and possibly power over 150,000 homes.

You can't create energy out of nothing, James. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
James_ wrote:
I think Western countries as you've said should've supported democracies more with foreign trade.

There are currently no democracies anywhere in the world.
James_ wrote:
But what Israel has been allowed to do to Palestine tends to show what the West really supports. The U.S. bought land from both France and Russia. No war involved and no problems afterwards.

Guess you forgot about the indian wars or the war of 1812 or the War of Secession.
James_ wrote:
p.s., With a tidal generator, New York City is a minimum of 1.6 ft/0.4m and up to
5.9 ft/1.75m. A float could rotate a hoist lifting a weight. When the weight slowly descends it could power a generator. That's using gravity to create energy, it is not possible. Science simply does not allow for that kind of thinking because that would be a perpetual motion machine. I mean for Heaven's sake gravity waves would be observed because of when the float rises and then descends. That simply can't happen.

p.s.s., To be technically correct, when a float would rise and then descend, a change in the strength of the Earth's gravitational field would be observed.

When the tide rolls in and then out again, how much force does that water have?
The lateral movement of the tide probably generates the most power and this would be at depth where there is the most force.

Nope. It's now powered by gravity. It's powered by the motion of the Moon.


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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
14-01-2024 22:50
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
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Jakob wrote:
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James_ wrote:

In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed.



Yes, that is a big job to fix, not only in the US, and it needs to be done.

The electrical grids in the US are not outdated or overwhelmed. There is no national grid in the U.S.
Jakob wrote:
Β­Maybe it is time to remember why you went to the moon.
It wasn't to "update the electrical grid".
Jakob wrote:
Β­Civilization needs infrastructure.
Β­

It wasn't to "build infrastructure" either.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
14-01-2024 22:57
Into the NightProfile pictureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
(21547)
James_ wrote:
Jakob wrote:
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James_ wrote:
In the U.S., the electrical grid is outdated and overwhelmed.

Yes, that is a big job to fix, not only in the US, and it needs to be done.
Maybe it is time to remember why you went to the moon.

Civilization needs infrastructure.
Β­

With the $2 Trillion the U.S. has spent on wars,

It's spent a lot more than THAT on wars!
James_ wrote:
improving infrastructure would've cost much less than that.

Void argument fallacy. What do you mean by "improving infrastructure"?
James_ wrote:
This in a sense shows that adapting to climate change is not a priority.

You can't adapt to meaningless buzzwords.
James_ wrote:
The infrastructure is not in place to power electric cars using green energy.

There is no such thing as 'green energy'. Buzzword fallacy. It is possible to charge an electric car.
James_ wrote:
With emissions, NOx and SOx could help to speed up this current warm period.

What "warm period"? No gas or vapor can create energy out of nothing, James. You are STILL ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
James_ wrote:
The ozone hole over Antarctica is an example.

Of what? It has nothing to do with temperature.
Neither does the "hole" over the Arctic.

You are AGAIN ignoring the Chapman cycle and how ozone is created and destroyed.
Hint: It has nothing to do with CFCs.


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