Did Trump just win Nevada? What Happened?

keepit wrote: IBD, When i see or hear things that are contrary to reality i mark them down as hallucinations, delusions, etc.
Then i pop another thorazine. Then i feel much better.

keepit wrote: The concept of confirmation bias comes to mind.

IBdaMann wrote:
I'm trying to understand what I just watched. It appeared that the electors for Nevada were casting their votes for Trump.

What was I watching?

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IBdaMann wrote:
I'm trying to understand what I just watched. It appeared that the electors for Nevada were casting their votes for Trump.

What was I watching?

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IBdaMann wrote:

keepit wrote: IBD, When i see or hear things that are contrary to reality i mark them down as hallucinations, delusions, etc.
Then i pop another thorazine. Then i feel much better.

I had asked you a direct question. Are you saying that Trump did not just win Nevada? I want to know what I just witnessed.

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

Exactly the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated.

We can all hope they do the right thing.

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Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

Exactly the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated.

We can all hope they do the right thing.

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That's up to the Senate and the courts now, and Trump keeping the fight going. It looks very much like this is going to go to the 12th amendment alternative.

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

Exactly the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated.

We can all hope they do the right thing.

.

That's up to the Senate and the courts now, and Trump keeping the fight going. It looks very much like this is going to go to the 12th amendment alternative.

keepit wrote:
What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

Exactly the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated.

We can all hope they do the right thing.

.

That's up to the Senate and the courts now, and Trump keeping the fight going. It looks very much like this is going to go to the 12th amendment alternative.

Indeed, and I have kept writing the offices of my State legislators about this fraudulent election and what I as a WI voter would like to see done from them as a remedy. In addition to that, I've also continued to give them an earful about the illegal and unconstitutional mask mandate and their unwillingness to meaningfully do anything about it.

I even sent my latest election write-up to the offices of the legislators of the other contested States as well.

IBdaMann wrote:...the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated....

keepit wrote:
What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

gfm7175 wrote:

keepit wrote:
What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

You can answer your own question simply by reading the 12th amendment to the US Constitution.

You do realize that your question was about as stupid as asking "what color is a blue moon?", right?

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears that seven States have dueling electors:

Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona
Nevada
New Mexico

Exactly the same States where the massive fraud was perpetrated.

We can all hope they do the right thing.

.

That's up to the Senate and the courts now, and Trump keeping the fight going. It looks very much like this is going to go to the 12th amendment alternative.

Indeed, and I have kept writing the offices of my State legislators about this fraudulent election and what I as a WI voter would like to see done from them as a remedy. In addition to that, I've also continued to give them an earful about the illegal and unconstitutional mask mandate and their unwillingness to meaningfully do anything about it.

I even sent my latest election write-up to the offices of the legislators of the other contested States as well.

Good for you. Get more of your friends and neighbors involved.

It looks like Wisconsin has filed as a Contested State. This effectively removes Biden's majority. The electoral college is now contested.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

keepit wrote:
What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

You can answer your own question simply by reading the 12th amendment to the US Constitution.

You do realize that your question was about as stupid as asking "what color is a blue moon?", right?

It states that:
"The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President,"

I don't see twitter anywhere in there.

gfm7175 wrote:You do realize that your question was about as stupid as asking "what color is a blue moon?", right?

keepit wrote: What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

US Constitution, Amendment XII
Passed by Congress December 9, 1803.
Ratified June 15, 1804.

Note: A portion of Article II, section 1 of the Constitution was superseded by this 12th amendment.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.* The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

*Superseded by section 3 of the 20th amendment. See below.

US Constitution, Amendment XX, Section 3
Passed by Congress March 2, 1932.
Ratified January 23, 1933.

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

IBdaMann wrote:
This is what it looks like.

THE CONSTITUTION
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
This is what it looks like.

One portion of the Constitution taken our of context is not The Constitution.

22i - Stupidity "nuclear" option, employed to cognitively stun opponent while buying time to retreat and to regroup; also known as "pulling a keepit"

tmiddles wrote:10 million votes forged without a trace

IBdaMann wrote:...the fraud. They're all there right in front of us. ...

tgoebbles wrote:And when do you expect the first criminal convictions?

tgoebbles wrote:You would agree this is the greatest crime in human history (in the Fraud category at least).

tgoebbles wrote:Also how many fraudulent votes are there roughly?

IBdaMann wrote:

tgoebbles wrote:And when do you expect the first criminal convictions?

How long does this sort of thing take?

IBdaMann wrote:...The current EU ...ongoing con.

tmiddles wrote:Well we all have plenty of experience as the public observing these things (as the qualified and authorized experts do their work).

IBdaMann wrote:
... so the answer is how long?

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
... so the answer is how long?

How long does it take a toaster to make toast IBD?

Bill Barr wrote: To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.

IBdaMann wrote:...ignored. ....

tmiddles wrote: [quote]Bill Barr wrote: To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

keepit wrote:
What is the 12th amendment alternative? I've never heard of that.

You can answer your own question simply by reading the 12th amendment to the US Constitution.

You do realize that your question was about as stupid as asking "what color is a blue moon?", right?

It states that:
"The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President,"

I don't see twitter anywhere in there.

keepit wrote:
Way too much to read. Can you give ma summary?
Thanks for your reply.

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
This is what it looks like.

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Of course ITN has not yet disclosed which Democrats were already convicted (and I don't even know of anyone charged) with Voter Fraud so remains to be seen how this will apply.

tmiddles wrote:
How much time do you think Bill Bar needs to roll the wheels of Justice?

So what do you guys think? How many convictions will there be?

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:...the fraud. They're all there right in front of us. ...

And when do you expect the first criminal convictions?

tmiddles wrote:
You would agree this is the greatest crime in human history (in the Fraud category at least).

tmiddles wrote:
Also how many fraudulent votes are there roughly?

tmiddles wrote:
Let me guess: Just enough to claim Trump actually won.

tmiddles wrote:
And the sun sets on another day of choose your own reality.

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

tgoebbles wrote:And when do you expect the first criminal convictions?

How long does this sort of thing take?

Well we all have plenty of experience as the public observing these things (as the qualified and authorized experts do their work). There is a murder, police make an arrest, and they are indicted. The conviction comes at the end of a trial. My experience has taught me there needs to be an arrest before there is a conviction.

It's been 6 weeks since the greatest crime in human history was pulled off, allegedly.

And no charges at all?

tmiddles wrote:
No actually we have more than that.

A definitive statement from the Trump appointed chief law enforcement officer Bill Bar:
"to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."