Trump, Climate Change investigation?

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

HarveyH55 wrote:
2020 is going to be a very interesting election year.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think it's going to be a landslide.

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

2020 is going to be a very interesting election year. Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available. Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

2020 is going to be a very interesting election year. Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available. Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

Seriously? Trump is being investigated by the state of New York for tax fraud.

James___ wrote:
He gave corporations a significant tax break which benefitted the wealthy.

James___ wrote:
You are right about this;

Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one

Buying cheap imports is logical because buying Made In America isn't hip & trendy because it's a costly one.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

2020 is going to be a very interesting election year. Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available. Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

Seriously? Trump is being investigated by the state of New York for tax fraud. He gave corporations a significant tax break which benefitted the wealthy.
Considering people like yourself looks at issues from all sides, those 2 issues probably won't matter to you.
You are right about this;

Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one

Buying cheap imports is logical because buying Made In America isn't hip & trendy because it's a costly one.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

2020 is going to be a very interesting election year. Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available. Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

Seriously? Trump is being investigated by the state of New York for tax fraud. He gave corporations a significant tax break which benefitted the wealthy.
Considering people like yourself looks at issues from all sides, those 2 issues probably won't matter to you.
You are right about this;

Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one

Buying cheap imports is logical because buying Made In America isn't hip & trendy because it's a costly one.

New York is investigating a lot of people for tax fraud, notice they don't give many details? They hope that people will rush in, and make a deal, before it gets too far. Companies don't like their name/brand mentioned in courtrooms, bad for business. Most individual want to clear up the minor issues, before the investigators dig too deep, and find something bigger. Trump likely took advantage of the tax code, which changes often, but probably didn't break and laws. Cheating the system, isn't always illegal (yet), but it tends to upset some people. How long has NY been investigating Trump? Seems like it started during his 2016 campaign, which seem like a long time to find something to charge him with.

We all got a tax breaks, well if you are employed, we did. The corporate tax break, is good for the economy as well as the individual tax break, because it makes more income available to spend. This important, because companies need to need to meet the increased demand for their products. More jobs, more people with money to spend, also more people, finally paying taxes. True, there will be some companies who will call those taxes breaks, profit. Those companies will simply raise their prices, rather increase the supply. Those companies, were also the same companies that took Obama Bailout bucks, gave themselves raises, and treated themselves to a couple weeks vacation (conferences, to dodge taxes as a business expense).

Import products suck money out of our economy, and hand it over to another country. They also compete with domestic made products, which kill jobs and businesses. Jobs are a good deal all around. People working, have less free time to cause trouble. Working people are less dependent on taxpayer funded freebies. Working people have a great appreciation for what they own, and better respect of other people's property. When you have to work for the money you spend, you want the best value, something that will last a good while. Imports are usually difficult to get customer service, or warranties honored. You can eventually get some satisfaction, if you are persistent, and nothing better to do with you life. Most people don't have the time or patience, and that's why imports are often cheap crap, that doesn't last long. It's cheap, because most people would rather buy another, than waste the time and aggravation, getting a replacement. Not to mention, the return shipping, is almost as much as they paid for the product.

James___ wrote:We're talking about Trump, right? No need to bring other people into it.

James___ wrote: Specific reasons for the investigation are known.

James___ wrote: I guess my question to you is,...

James___ wrote: ... are you willing to pay more in taxes so President Trump can pay less?

James___ wrote: What you don't understand about why President Trump is being investigated, if the state of New York finds that he committed tax fraud, then the IRS will have grounds to investigate him for committing tax fraud at the federal level.

James___ wrote: It's a step by step process

James___ wrote: ... and yet without knowing why President Trump is being investigated you are attempting to defend him by saying other people do it, so why not our President?

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/national-news/ap-top-news/emails-trump-aide-consulting-climatechange-rejecters/958099094

Not sure why they are making an issue of this, any rational person, who doesn't know a whole lot about something, is going to look at all sides of the issue, to get a wide perspective as possible. Science should be political, or take sides on any issue, just report their findings and measurements.

Trump is getting a lot of pressure to spend a lot of tax dollars, well print some more dollars, to pay for something, that doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Part of the deals he wants to make, involve making concessions on that spending. Seems reasonable to make sure that money is well spent, and not wasted or stolen.

2020 is going to be a very interesting election year. Hopefully, many will follow Trump's example, and look into some of the other Climate Change views available. Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one.

Seriously? Trump is being investigated by the state of New York for tax fraud. He gave corporations a significant tax break which benefitted the wealthy.
Considering people like yourself looks at issues from all sides, those 2 issues probably won't matter to you.
You are right about this;

Pretty sure most people will follow the more logical path, rather than the hip & trendy, costly one

Buying cheap imports is logical because buying Made In America isn't hip & trendy because it's a costly one.

New York is investigating a lot of people for tax fraud, notice they don't give many details? They hope that people will rush in, and make a deal, before it gets too far. Companies don't like their name/brand mentioned in courtrooms, bad for business. Most individual want to clear up the minor issues, before the investigators dig too deep, and find something bigger. Trump likely took advantage of the tax code, which changes often, but probably didn't break and laws. Cheating the system, isn't always illegal (yet), but it tends to upset some people. How long has NY been investigating Trump? Seems like it started during his 2016 campaign, which seem like a long time to find something to charge him with.

We all got a tax breaks, well if you are employed, we did. The corporate tax break, is good for the economy as well as the individual tax break, because it makes more income available to spend. This important, because companies need to need to meet the increased demand for their products. More jobs, more people with money to spend, also more people, finally paying taxes. True, there will be some companies who will call those taxes breaks, profit. Those companies will simply raise their prices, rather increase the supply. Those companies, were also the same companies that took Obama Bailout bucks, gave themselves raises, and treated themselves to a couple weeks vacation (conferences, to dodge taxes as a business expense).

Import products suck money out of our economy, and hand it over to another country. They also compete with domestic made products, which kill jobs and businesses. Jobs are a good deal all around. People working, have less free time to cause trouble. Working people are less dependent on taxpayer funded freebies. Working people have a great appreciation for what they own, and better respect of other people's property. When you have to work for the money you spend, you want the best value, something that will last a good while. Imports are usually difficult to get customer service, or warranties honored. You can eventually get some satisfaction, if you are persistent, and nothing better to do with you life. Most people don't have the time or patience, and that's why imports are often cheap crap, that doesn't last long. It's cheap, because most people would rather buy another, than waste the time and aggravation, getting a replacement. Not to mention, the return shipping, is almost as much as they paid for the product.

We're talking about Trump, right?

James___ wrote:
No need to bring other people into it.

James___ wrote:
Specific reasons for the investigation are known.

James___ wrote:
I guess my question to you is, are you willing to pay more in taxes so President Trump can pay less?

James___ wrote:
What you don't understand about why President Trump is being investigated, if the state of New York finds that he committed tax fraud, then the IRS will have grounds to investigate him for committing tax fraud at the federal level.

James___ wrote:
It's a step by step process and yet without knowing why President Trump is being investigated you are attempting to defend him by saying other people do it, so why not our President?

James___ wrote:
You've already posted that Americans buying cheap Chinese imports is okay because they give a better value for the American dollar than a similar American (domestic) made product. Quit changing your argument.

James___ wrote:
All you are showing is that you want to be right. But when you have no specific opinion about something then it just becomes vitriol.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Tax fraud is a very broad actuation. Care to be a little more specific? It's fairly commonly used in NY, doesn't mean anything major, usually sounds worse than it really is, which is also common in politics.

Cheap Chinese imports don't give better value, if they fail, and there is little or no option, but to throw it in the trash. Good value, is something that works as advertised, and last a reasonable amount of time, when used appropriately. But, it is okay for Americans to buy what they want, and throw away what they want, that's freedom of choice. Spin it anyway you want.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Tax fraud is a very broad actuation. Care to be a little more specific? It's fairly commonly used in NY, doesn't mean anything major, usually sounds worse than it really is, which is also common in politics.

Cheap Chinese imports don't give better value, if they fail, and there is little or no option, but to throw it in the trash. Good value, is something that works as advertised, and last a reasonable amount of time, when used appropriately. But, it is okay for Americans to buy what they want, and throw away what they want, that's freedom of choice. Spin it anyway you want.

I know you'll spin this. Jack Trump bought goods priced up to 50% more from his son and daughter. This kept them from paying a gift tax on hundreds of millions of dollars.
You'll say it was Jack Trump's freedom of choice to help his son's and daughter's business to be profitable.
Trump like you doesn't like paying taxes. And to grow the US economy, he's just printing more money instead. You really don't care how anything effects America. You just don't care.
I have posted a link before to this tax fraud scheme but apparently you just don't care about America.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/us/maryanne-trump-barry-misconduct-inquiry.html

HarveyH55 wrote:
And how many people in Kentucky are behind in their taxes? Or is it just him? How many business are behind on their taxes in Kentucky? If you bother to do your own research, before drinking the kool aid, you'll find many of these stories are political, and don't give the full facts available.

Public education... If they handled it properly in the first place, it would be struggling so much. The vast majority of kids in public schools won't be going to college, nor will their jobs/careers require a degree. Why spend all kinds of money, and time on something the parents should be doing themselves? Kids who want to go to college, are free to study online. Most parents could afford to get their kids prepared for college, even pay some of the cost, if they paid less taxes.

You do realize that these rich guys, and business do pay taxes, and a lot more than most people earn in a lifetime. Some are pretty good at dodging some taxes, but they still pay a lot, it's not completely avoidable. How is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes a fair share, when many people only pay a couple of thousand?

Don't know Kentucky property law, but down here in Florida, it takes several years, before they foreclose for unpaid taxes. You do realize that even though someone is 'rich', doesn't mean cash on hand? Lot of millionaires don't have ready cash to spend.

HarveyH55 wrote:
So the people that work hard, grow a business, make millions, should be punished for it, and pay a higher rate, to pick up your slack, or likely, support you, seen you are handicapped, and unwilling to work? .

HarveyH55 wrote:
There are other jobs, if you can't, or won't do one, you are capable of others. You choose not to work. Your handicap seems to be mostly mental, since you think everything can be only one way, won't consider anything else. If your intestine is wrong, you should have been able to get it corrected. I don't believe it is, your cancer surgery required it to be relocated. You do understand that your intestines move around on their own? Disabled Vet? Disabled because of the cancer, did serving cause the cancer? The two aren't related, but it serves your pity-party mentality well.

Yeah, I do physical work in a warehouse, and have for the past 27 years. Done physical work all my life. First two weeks or so after my returning from surgery, work was rough, but knew it would take some time. Wasn't as bad as expected though, got through it, and back on track.

Doubt you pay much taxes at all anymore, using the disability dodge. Enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually, the paperwork will catch up with your actual condition. Cancer isn't the killer it once was, caught early, it's often treated successfully these days. A whole lot of people survive cancer anymore, it's not such an achievement. I doubt your claims of physical disability from it. Takes time to heal, takes time to get back in shape, you didn't give yourself the needed time, just figure your weren't right, because you didn't go right back to doing everything the same as always. Then you just sit there complaining about it. If your malpractice claim had merit, and you only want to be made right, you should have a problem getting a lawyer to take your case, without paying upfront. After how many years, have you been crying, and not getting your problems fixed? You want sympathy, but it's your life, you have options, why should I care if you make bad choices?

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
And how many people in Kentucky are behind in their taxes? Or is it just him? How many business are behind on their taxes in Kentucky? If you bother to do your own research, before drinking the kool aid, you'll find many of these stories are political, and don't give the full facts available.

Public education... If they handled it properly in the first place, it would be struggling so much. The vast majority of kids in public schools won't be going to college, nor will their jobs/careers require a degree. Why spend all kinds of money, and time on something the parents should be doing themselves? Kids who want to go to college, are free to study online. Most parents could afford to get their kids prepared for college, even pay some of the cost, if they paid less taxes.

You do realize that these rich guys, and business do pay taxes, and a lot more than most people earn in a lifetime. Some are pretty good at dodging some taxes, but they still pay a lot, it's not completely avoidable. How is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes a fair share, when many people only pay a couple of thousand?

Don't know Kentucky property law, but down here in Florida, it takes several years, before they foreclose for unpaid taxes. You do realize that even though someone is 'rich', doesn't mean cash on hand? Lot of millionaires don't have ready cash to spend.

All it seems Harvey is that you're apathetic. You really don't care about anything. You don't even take time to find out what you're posting about. Anymore I think people like you are typical of the US.

James___ wrote:
I am starting to wonder if you suffer from depression. Many Americans do. You could be one of them. You don't give what you post any thought.

James___ wrote:
It's strange the way you defend the wealthy.

James___ wrote:
Why should the average person pick up the slack? Because they're doing it too? I don't know of anyone who works for a living owing millions in back taxes.

HarveyH55 wrote:
So the people that work hard, grow a business, make millions, should be punished for it, and pay a higher rate, to pick up your slack, or likely, support you, seen you are handicapped, and unwilling to work? You use a computer (badly), so you could do work, but are you? I'm not a financially rich man, certainly not poor. Just barely have enough saved to cover my health insurance deductible, but earn enough to pay my bills on time, and do what I want. I don't use credit, I want something, I save for it, sometimes alter my spending pattern a little to make it happen a little sooner. Still try to maintain a level of savings, that will cover expenses, like last year, when I had surgery. Everyone is different, have different goals and ambitions. some can't leave money sitting, they need to put every dollar to work, hoping to make more. Even if their assets are in the millions, they have trouble getting the bills paid, without selling off assets, which they hope to avoid, special if it's not at a profit. It would be silly to expect some one to sell their business, for whatever they can get, just to pay a tax bill, a small fraction of the value of the business. The tax code allows a good amount of time for people to find a way to settle, without selling off their assets. Being behind on taxes doesn't means they don't intend to pay, some just take advantage of the time allowed. There are a lot of sneaky little tricks allowed by the tax laws, that get used not exactly as intended, which leads to investigations, which often turns out to be a loophole, not often exploited, not fraud. Tax laws were never intended to be an iron fist, where you either pay now, or get punished. It gives people some room to comply, without being an undo burden.

You really do seem to get that these rich people aren't using any more tax dollars than any other American, but their tax bill is more than most people earn in a year.

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think you understand medicine, or physiology, psychology either. Doctors don't heal anyone, they only assist you to heal yourself. They don't restore you to full health, like you were before injury or illness either, they only help you to recover as much function as possible. If your surgery was done wrong, seems like you should be able to find a doctor to check the work, and fix it, if needed. That's what they do, after, help restore function. You can't get a doctor to agree with you, because your surgery was done correctly. Same reason you can't find a lawyer to help you sue for malpractice. Many surgeries require lifestyle changes, dietary changes, medications, to be effective, and avoid future problems. Mine were for only a few weeks, while my gut healed, and i mostly followed the recommendation of the surgeon, all went well. I didn't really have much choice on the exercise, CIGNA Health Care kept me busy with forms, for my short-term disability the whole. I live alone, so if I wanted something done, I had to do it myself. I'd don't sit well, always looking to keep busy at something, not much for watching TV. Likely was doing a little more, than what the doctor had in mind. Got a hunch, you mostly sat around after your surgery, because it hurt too much, or had people doing everything for you, based on your need to stop and rest, every flight of stairs at work. My surgeon's office was on the second floor, there was an elevator, but I wasn't sure about using it. First two times, I was a little winded climbing the stairs, but it got easier. And I don't climb stairs often around here.

Don't know why you find it so important to convince me, we've never met, nor likely to. It's more likely you need to convince yourself.

James___ wrote: There is something wrong with you Harvey.

James___ wrote: My intestines being positioned wrong is serious.

James___ wrote: There is something that you haven't considered. My interest in properly understanding climate change might in some ways come back to doctors not getting things right when they operate on me.

James___ wrote: Psychology tends to work that way.

James___ wrote: That's why I've also taken the time to understand my own situation.

James___ wrote: I guess I should feel sorry for you. You haven't gone through crap that's motivated you.

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: There is something wrong with you Harvey.

I'm guessing this is mere projection on your part, to be clarified in your next statement

James___ wrote: My intestines being positioned wrong is serious.

The problem is with you and your intestines, not with HarveyH55.

James___ wrote: There is something that you haven't considered. My interest in properly understanding climate change might in some ways come back to doctors not getting things right when they operate on me.

Are you planning on suing the doctors for not performing the proper forcings and feedbacks which made your intestines cause sea level rise that now threatens beachfront property?

James___ wrote: Psychology tends to work that way.

Are you saying that psychology gets the forcings and feedbacks right and that the doctors should be held accountable for applying the proper psychology?

James___ wrote: That's why I've also taken the time to understand my own situation.

Help me understand it again....

James___ wrote: I guess I should feel sorry for you. You haven't gone through crap that's motivated you.

Reading between the lines of your projection, are you looking for pity?

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think you understand medicine, or physiology, psychology either. Doctors don't heal anyone, they only assist you to heal yourself. They don't restore you to full health, like you were before injury or illness either, they only help you to recover as much function as possible. If your surgery was done wrong, seems like you should be able to find a doctor to check the work, and fix it, if needed. That's what they do, after, help restore function. You can't get a doctor to agree with you, because your surgery was done correctly. Same reason you can't find a lawyer to help you sue for malpractice. Many surgeries require lifestyle changes, dietary changes, medications, to be effective, and avoid future problems. Mine were for only a few weeks, while my gut healed, and i mostly followed the recommendation of the surgeon, all went well. I didn't really have much choice on the exercise, CIGNA Health Care kept me busy with forms, for my short-term disability the whole. I live alone, so if I wanted something done, I had to do it myself. I'd don't sit well, always looking to keep busy at something, not much for watching TV. Likely was doing a little more, than what the doctor had in mind. Got a hunch, you mostly sat around after your surgery, because it hurt too much, or had people doing everything for you, based on your need to stop and rest, every flight of stairs at work. My surgeon's office was on the second floor, there was an elevator, but I wasn't sure about using it. First two times, I was a little winded climbing the stairs, but it got easier. And I don't climb stairs often around here.

Don't know why you find it so important to convince me, we've never met, nor likely to. It's more likely you need to convince yourself.

Harvey, you are self absorbed.

James___ wrote:
When I worked for Boeing, they encouraged us to have interests.

James___ wrote:
About everything you say revolves around you.

James___ wrote:
I almost missed it Harvey. When I said that between my service connected hearing loss and surgeons ignoring an obvious problem help to motivate me, you said that I don't know what I'm talking about.

James___ wrote:
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

James___ wrote:
p.s., Wake knows that I've been working on a project since before I had surgery in January 2018. My being disabled has made it much more difficult for me to pursue it. I'm still working on it but I have to go slow. You see it will help me to have the surgery I want while also helping me to explain a hypothesis that I have about Natural Climate Variation.

James___ wrote:
And if all works out then one day they'll be teaching my theory in school. I think that would be pretty cool.

Into the Night wrote:
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[quote]James___ wrote:
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think you understand medicine, or physiology, psychology either. Doctors don't heal anyone, they only assist you to heal yourself. They don't restore you to full health, like you were before injury or illness either, they only help you to recover as much function as possible. If your surgery was done wrong, seems like you should be able to find a doctor to check the work, and fix it, if needed. That's what they do, after, help restore function. You can't get a doctor to agree with you, because your surgery was done correctly. Same reason you can't find a lawyer to help you sue for malpractice. Many surgeries require lifestyle changes, dietary changes, medications, to be effective, and avoid future problems. Mine were for only a few weeks, while my gut healed, and i mostly followed the recommendation of the surgeon, all went well. I didn't really have much choice on the exercise, CIGNA Health Care kept me busy with forms, for my short-term disability the whole. I live alone, so if I wanted something done, I had to do it myself. I'd don't sit well, always looking to keep busy at something, not much for watching TV. Likely was doing a little more, than what the doctor had in mind. Got a hunch, you mostly sat around after your surgery, because it hurt too much, or had people doing everything for you, based on your need to stop and rest, every flight of stairs at work. My surgeon's office was on the second floor, there was an elevator, but I wasn't sure about using it. First two times, I was a little winded climbing the stairs, but it got easier. And I don't climb stairs often around here.

Don't know why you find it so important to convince me, we've never met, nor likely to. It's more likely you need to convince yourself.

Harvey, you are self absorbed.

When I worked for Boeing, they encouraged us to have interests.
About everything you say revolves around you.
I almost missed it Harvey. When I said that between my service connected hearing loss and surgeons ignoring an obvious problem help to motivate me, you said that I don't know what I'm talking about.
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

p.s., Wake knows that I've been working on a project since before I had surgery in January 2018. My being disabled has made it much more difficult for me to pursue it. I'm still working on it but I have to go slow. You see it will help me to have the surgery I want while also helping me to explain a hypothesis that I have about Natural Climate Variation.
And if all works out then one day they'll be teaching my theory in school. I think that would be pretty cool.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think you understand medicine, or physiology, psychology either. Doctors don't heal anyone, they only assist you to heal yourself. They don't restore you to full health, like you were before injury or illness either, they only help you to recover as much function as possible. If your surgery was done wrong, seems like you should be able to find a doctor to check the work, and fix it, if needed. That's what they do, after, help restore function. You can't get a doctor to agree with you, because your surgery was done correctly. Same reason you can't find a lawyer to help you sue for malpractice. Many surgeries require lifestyle changes, dietary changes, medications, to be effective, and avoid future problems. Mine were for only a few weeks, while my gut healed, and i mostly followed the recommendation of the surgeon, all went well. I didn't really have much choice on the exercise, CIGNA Health Care kept me busy with forms, for my short-term disability the whole. I live alone, so if I wanted something done, I had to do it myself. I'd don't sit well, always looking to keep busy at something, not much for watching TV. Likely was doing a little more, than what the doctor had in mind. Got a hunch, you mostly sat around after your surgery, because it hurt too much, or had people doing everything for you, based on your need to stop and rest, every flight of stairs at work. My surgeon's office was on the second floor, there was an elevator, but I wasn't sure about using it. First two times, I was a little winded climbing the stairs, but it got easier. And I don't climb stairs often around here.

Don't know why you find it so important to convince me, we've never met, nor likely to. It's more likely you need to convince yourself.

Harvey, you are self absorbed.

When I worked for Boeing, they encouraged us to have interests.
About everything you say revolves around you.
I almost missed it Harvey. When I said that between my service connected hearing loss and surgeons ignoring an obvious problem help to motivate me, you said that I don't know what I'm talking about.
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

p.s., Wake knows that I've been working on a project since before I had surgery in January 2018. My being disabled has made it much more difficult for me to pursue it. I'm still working on it but I have to go slow. You see it will help me to have the surgery I want while also helping me to explain a hypothesis that I have about Natural Climate Variation.
And if all works out then one day they'll be teaching my theory in school. I think that would be pretty cool.

I have trouble believing much of what you type, it's a lot like reading an IPCC report. You tend to contradict yourself often, misrepresent the facts, ignore facts and options, but mostly only tell the parts that benefit you, usually embellished. Hearing loss can mean anything, doesn't necessarily qualify as a disability. Your VA benefits should help you get that corrected, unless you had trouble filling out a few forms, or maybe you are still waiting your turn for treatment.

Boeing is a huge company, working there could have been anything from janitorial to executive. Sounds impressive, but doesn't add anything. It's like me saying I worked for Hewlett-Packard out in Oregon, which I did for a while. I actually worked for a Temp agency, and tested some parts for medical devices, pretty simplistic stuff, lasted 3 weeks. Considering you went from Boeing to Amazon picker, would indicate you weren't a salaried employee.

Surgeons ignoring you, or you ignoring the surgeons? Tend to believe you ignore your doctors, and the facts the present, be cause they aren't telling you what you wish to hear. Invasive surgery is a serious thing, and always carries some risk, it's not done on the request of the patient. Doctors don't want you to die for their mistakes, it's costly, and a career killer, easily discovered in an autopsy, verified through your medical records.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
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[quote]James___ wrote:
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

Inversion fallacy yet again.
/quote]

ITN, you guys are content with your lives. That's okay.

James___ wrote:
As far as fruits and vegetables go, do people care?

James___ wrote:
If not then the difference doesn't matter.

James___ wrote:
Someone grows them and people buy them.

James___ wrote:
Changing the group they belong to would change nothing except for the word people (grocers) use to describe them.

James___ wrote:
If semantics are that important to you, then enjoy

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think you understand medicine, or physiology, psychology either. Doctors don't heal anyone, they only assist you to heal yourself. They don't restore you to full health, like you were before injury or illness either, they only help you to recover as much function as possible. If your surgery was done wrong, seems like you should be able to find a doctor to check the work, and fix it, if needed. That's what they do, after, help restore function. You can't get a doctor to agree with you, because your surgery was done correctly. Same reason you can't find a lawyer to help you sue for malpractice. Many surgeries require lifestyle changes, dietary changes, medications, to be effective, and avoid future problems. Mine were for only a few weeks, while my gut healed, and i mostly followed the recommendation of the surgeon, all went well. I didn't really have much choice on the exercise, CIGNA Health Care kept me busy with forms, for my short-term disability the whole. I live alone, so if I wanted something done, I had to do it myself. I'd don't sit well, always looking to keep busy at something, not much for watching TV. Likely was doing a little more, than what the doctor had in mind. Got a hunch, you mostly sat around after your surgery, because it hurt too much, or had people doing everything for you, based on your need to stop and rest, every flight of stairs at work. My surgeon's office was on the second floor, there was an elevator, but I wasn't sure about using it. First two times, I was a little winded climbing the stairs, but it got easier. And I don't climb stairs often around here.

Don't know why you find it so important to convince me, we've never met, nor likely to. It's more likely you need to convince yourself.

Harvey, you are self absorbed.

When I worked for Boeing, they encouraged us to have interests.
About everything you say revolves around you.
I almost missed it Harvey. When I said that between my service connected hearing loss and surgeons ignoring an obvious problem help to motivate me, you said that I don't know what I'm talking about.
It's sad but you're not capable of growing as a person.

p.s., Wake knows that I've been working on a project since before I had surgery in January 2018. My being disabled has made it much more difficult for me to pursue it. I'm still working on it but I have to go slow. You see it will help me to have the surgery I want while also helping me to explain a hypothesis that I have about Natural Climate Variation.
And if all works out then one day they'll be teaching my theory in school. I think that would be pretty cool.

I have trouble believing much of what you type, it's a lot like reading an IPCC report. You tend to contradict yourself often, misrepresent the facts, ignore facts and options, but mostly only tell the parts that benefit you, usually embellished. Hearing loss can mean anything, doesn't necessarily qualify as a disability. Your VA benefits should help you get that corrected, unless you had trouble filling out a few forms, or maybe you are still waiting your turn for treatment.

Boeing is a huge company, working there could have been anything from janitorial to executive. Sounds impressive, but doesn't add anything. It's like me saying I worked for Hewlett-Packard out in Oregon, which I did for a while. I actually worked for a Temp agency, and tested some parts for medical devices, pretty simplistic stuff, lasted 3 weeks. Considering you went from Boeing to Amazon picker, would indicate you weren't a salaried employee.

Surgeons ignoring you, or you ignoring the surgeons? Tend to believe you ignore your doctors, and the facts the present, be cause they aren't telling you what you wish to hear. Invasive surgery is a serious thing, and always carries some risk, it's not done on the request of the patient. Doctors don't want you to die for their mistakes, it's costly, and a career killer, easily discovered in an autopsy, verified through your medical records.

When someone dies from malpractice, the doctor involved will have an attorney defending him. Not really a problem. Depending on the award, there might be a slight increase in their malpractice insurance.

James___ wrote:
A doctors first order of business is not to involve themselves in another doctor's problem. That allows a doctor to correct his own mistake without calling it a mistake. Then no malpractice or medical negligence occurred. And thus no malpractice suit.
With my situation, everyone in the operating room would know what was going on. No malpractice suit would be able to be filed but my surgeon would face endless ridicule from the local community for not knowing where a person's colon goes. He would have been the butt of many anal jokes. He didn't want to emberass himself amongst his peers. And that's why I am allowed to suffer. It has literally nothing to do with a malpractice suit. The reason for my disability would justify corrective surgery.
I had cancer and I had complications. How is that malpractice?

James___ wrote:
And Harvey, as you said, you live alone. You know that other people are a problem. Like you said, I'm the problem. That's cold.

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's malpractice anytime the doctor makes a mistake in treatment, is negligent in giving proper treatment, or performs unneeded procedures (fraud). So far, it's only you, who believe that you weren't given the correct treatment for your cancer. You beat the cancer, and your colon functions, you survived. Not exactly sure what you are complaining about, or how you are disabled, physically, anyway. Are you confused about complications and side-effects? Your intestines are basically just stuffed in a sack, and are free to move around. As long as the surgeon stuffed them all back into that sack, they are in the correct place. Are you sure your problems are even related to your surgery? Could be having a seperate health issue? Have thought about going to a doctor, one you haven't pissed-off yet, and just presented your symptoms, let the doctor examine and do tests, make his own diagnosis? You can be wrong, specially when drawing conclusions outside of your field of study. You aren't a doctor, obviously, nor have a very good understanding of physiology. You only want one very specific treatment, a crap-sack (can't spell the technical name), won't except anything less. Sounds more like you aren't interested in your health, just your disability (benefits). You've been on here complain about this a long time, you don't have a serious condition, that requires surgery. Not sure if lobotomy is considered surgery...

James___ wrote: Harvey, I am mindful that history has recorded that our climate has changed.

James___ wrote: You, itn and damann all are dismissive of that.

James___ wrote: If you refute recorded history then I'm not sure how you could understand that a doctor avoids a malpractice suit by ignoring his mistakes.

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: Harvey, I am mindful that history has recorded that our climate has changed.

I think most people reading your posts are mindful of the fact that neither you nor history has ever defined this global climate thing, probably because fictitious things don't ever change.

James___ wrote: You, itn and damann all are dismissive of that.

No, we are very mindful of the fact that you have only refused to define this global climate that you reference so often.

James___ wrote: If you refute recorded history then I'm not sure how you could understand that a doctor avoids a malpractice suit by ignoring his mistakes.

Watch ... you will continue to leave this global "Climate" undefined, leaving recorded history with nary an example of any changes whatsoever in said global "Climate."