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11-03-2020 08:27
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:...no one knows whether there actually was an ice age (it's pure speculation) ...
OK IBD, what's not pure speculation?

Do you know you're not dreaming right now? Familiar with Descartes?

How about that the Earth is not flat?

"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is valid for IBD or ITN
11-03-2020 19:49
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:...deleted Mantras 22...16b...35b1...


No argument presented.


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11-03-2020 20:01
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:...no one knows whether there actually was an ice age (it's pure speculation) ...
OK IBD, what's not pure speculation?

Stupid question. We have been over this.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-03-2020 21:02
Harry CProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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Harry C wrote:
There is an observed temperature increase that has occurred over time. Why is that?


The question was more rhetorical. It's more like, why do we care if the answer is not CO2?


You learn something new every day if you are lucky!
11-03-2020 21:39
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Harry C wrote:
Harry C wrote:
There is an observed temperature increase that has occurred over time. Why is that?


The question was more rhetorical. It's more like, why do we care if the answer is not CO2?

Because we want to see who is gullible enough to buy the supposition that there is actually an observed temperature increase.

Once we identify the gullible people we can target them for other financial scams and real estate timeshare deals.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-03-2020 23:07
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:...no one knows whether there actually was an ice age (it's pure speculation) ...
OK IBD, what's not pure speculation?

Stupid question. We have been over this.
We have and you've never answered.

What's more there is this:no data is valid for IBD

Like really? WOW! Still no rebuttal.

Harry C wrote:
The question was more rhetorical. It's more like, why do we care if the answer is not CO2?

Because in any serious investigation eliminating things is an important part of the process. Sometimes it's the only way to find the right answer.

I could read that as:
"There is a serious fraud being perpetrated on the world, but why do we care since it's not true?"

"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is valid for IBD or ITN
11-03-2020 23:14
James___
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Harry C wrote:
Harry C wrote:
There is an observed temperature increase that has occurred over time. Why is that?


The question was more rhetorical. It's more like, why do we care if the answer is not CO2?



With me, a couple of reasons. What will people think about scientists when the planet starts cooling again? Why would anyone want to listen to them? Also, if the science is wrong, it's hurting other facets of science. And last but not least, it's taken over about all discussions of science.
Find sources of fresh water west of the Mississippi River interesting? That accounts for about 40% of US agricultural production. But it's not CO2.
Why is the northern Pacific Ocean having above average temperature warm blobs (2) since 2013 that can last a couple of years or more and if not caused by CO2, then why are they happening?
12-03-2020 02:08
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tmiddles wrote:...deleted Mantras 29...paradoxes a...r...29...20c...10 (science<->answers)...16b...


No argument presented. RQAA.


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12-03-2020 02:10
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
Why is the northern Pacific Ocean having above average temperature warm blobs (2) since 2013 that can last a couple of years or more and if not caused by CO2, then why are they happening?


They aren't happening.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
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