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Polar bears and Hudson bay19-12-2020 08:57
duncan61
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Been doing a bit of research as polar bears are considered to be global warmings poster child.Since 2009 the ice has been forming earlier and melting later.The bears are going well with photos from October 2020 of multiple mothers with triplets on the ice which we were told would never happen again.The population is gaining and all is well.NASA have some satellite pictures from July 13 to July 29 showing the melt but nothing on the refreeze.Satellites must be parked some where else.Alledgedly NASA will not include data from post 2009 in their future modelling because it will show everything going back to 1970 levels and who is going to explain the billions of dollars in research that has come up with squat.We havent melted from the nuclear holocaust or the nasty CO2.any guesses on whats next.I worked for a doctor today replacing his laundry tapware.He has not had a single patient with Covid and no faith in AGW/CC.How much longer can the warmies keep plugging


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19-12-2020 17:57
HarveyH55
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Mostly, the AGW crowd search the planet for 'signs' that they can sell of evidence that they should be taken seriously. Nature provides an occasional photo-op, but it doesn't last for years and years, or get progressively worse, as prophesied. They can only hope to find the next photo-op, before their poster-child of the time, fizzles out.

The only reason there is life on this planet, is that nothing is dependent of precise conditions, or any one factor. There is a wide range of tolerances, multiple sources of the things we need. Populations are self adjusting, as some species do better under certain conditions, but struggle under others. There is no perfect environment for everything. When conditions are good, a population will multiple. When things get rough, the strong survive, the population declines.
19-12-2020 19:05
James___
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duncan61 wrote:
Been doing a bit of research as polar bears are considered to be global warmings poster child.Since 2009 the ice has been forming earlier and melting later.The bears are going well with photos from October 2020 of multiple mothers with triplets on the ice which we were told would never happen again.The population is gaining and all is well.NASA have some satellite pictures from July 13 to July 29 showing the melt but nothing on the refreeze.Satellites must be parked some where else.Alledgedly NASA will not include data from post 2009 in their future modelling because it will show everything going back to 1970 levels and who is going to explain the billions of dollars in research that has come up with squat.We havent melted from the nuclear holocaust or the nasty CO2.any guesses on whats next.I worked for a doctor today replacing his laundry tapware.He has not had a single patient with Covid and no faith in AGW/CC.How much longer can the warmies keep plugging



The Hudson Bay is fed from the Labrador Current. Also it's in eastern Canada. It probably gets a lot of cold arctic air blowing over it as a result. Just not a good example.
What if warm waters from the Pacific Ocean are mixing with the warm waters of the Gulf Stream in the Arctic Ocean? Could that displace cold water? It could.After all, water in the arctic eventually cools, right? Just think of the Arctic Ocean as a heat exchanger. It releases heat into the atmosphere as water flows through it.

Weather conditions around Christmas 1776. The Delaware River does not freeze over anymore.

In late 1776, Washington's greatest fear was that a hard freeze of the Delaware River would enable the British to march across and capture the colonial capital at Philadelphia. The river had frozen over lightly on December 23, but had broken up 48 hours later.

https://allthingsliberty.com/2018/12/christmas-night-1776-how-did-they-cross/#:~:text=In%20late%201776%2C%20Washington%E2%80%99s%20greatest%20fear%20was%20that,troops%20expired%20at%20the%20end%20of%20the%20year.

What needs to be considered is that the hard freeze broke up and then the river started to freeze again.
19-12-2020 20:37
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duncan61 wrote:
Been doing a bit of research as polar bears are considered to be global warmings poster child.Since 2009 the ice has been forming earlier and melting later.

This is one of the usual pieces of 'evidence' that the Church of Global Warming uses to support itself. Science, of course, uses no supporting evidence. Only religions do that.
duncan61 wrote:
The bears are going well with photos from October 2020 of multiple mothers with triplets on the ice which we were told would never happen again.

As far as observed, the polar bears seem to be doing just fine.
duncan61 wrote:
The population is gaining and all is well.

Most areas show a gain of polar bear population count. Some see a decline. Polar bears move to where the food is. A decline in one area is a gain in a neighboring area much of the time.
duncan61 wrote:
NASA have some satellite pictures from July 13 to July 29 showing the melt but nothing on the refreeze.Satellites must be parked some where else.

One way to put it! Nah. NASA just fails to publish those pictures.
duncan61 wrote:
Alledgedly NASA will not include data from post 2009 in their future modelling because it will show everything going back to 1970 levels and who is going to explain the billions of dollars in research that has come up with squat.

You are beginning to see how government agencies work. NASA is invested in the Church of Global Warming. It must continue to justify it's involvement in that religion. Governments have no profit motive. They instead can only justify themselves by appearing like the Cavalry coming to the rescue. To solve a problem...even if that 'problem' is a manufactured one. They never solve it of course, that would remove the justification for their existence.
duncan61 wrote:
We havent melted from the nuclear holocaust or the nasty CO2.any guesses on whats next.I worked for a doctor today replacing his laundry tapware.He has not had a single patient with Covid and no faith in AGW/CC.How much longer can the warmies keep plugging


All religions are based on a circular argument with arguments extending from that. The other name for the circular argument is 'faith'.

A circular argument cannot be proven True nor False. There is nothing that can destroy one. Such arguments are in and of themselves self sustaining as long as people want to make them. Fundamentalist religions such as the Church of Global Warming will never go away. The Church of the Ozone hole is the same way. The Church of the Big Bang is the same way. The Church of the Continuum is the same way. The Church of Evolution is the same way.

The Church of Karl Marx is the same way.

How long can they keep up their arguments? As long as they want to!


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