Fossil fuels

duncan61 wrote:
Because it originally formed from plants, coal contains mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Coal helped create the carbon-based branch of chemistry we call "organic chemistry." When coal is heated in the absence of air, its complex mixture breaks down into simpler forms.23 Oct 2019.I am enjoying this.I am just searching and copying stuff but I am learning new stuff which is why I joined this forum.ITN you stated you did not know how coal formed so you are out and IBDM you stated come to me with the hard stuff and I have cunningly led you to a hard place.You are beaten oik so give up now.I can call it fossil fuel with impunity

duncan61 wrote:My next move is to discuss the term coral bleaching.Now this term is just wrong

duncan61 wrote:
Because it originally formed from plants, coal contains mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen.

duncan61 wrote:
Coal helped create the carbon-based branch of chemistry we call "organic chemistry."

duncan61 wrote:
When coal is heated in the absence of air, its complex mixture breaks down into simpler forms.

duncan61 wrote:
23 Oct 2019.I am enjoying this.I am just searching and copying stuff but I am learning new stuff which is why I joined this forum.

duncan61 wrote:
ITN you stated you did not know how coal formed so you are out

duncan61 wrote:
and IBDM you stated come to me with the hard stuff and I have cunningly led you to a hard place.

duncan61 wrote:
You are beaten oik so give up now.

duncan61 wrote:
I can call it fossil fuel with impunity

duncan61 wrote:Coal is mostly carbon with variable amounts of other elements;

duncan61 wrote: Coal is formed when dead plant matter decays into peat and is converted into coal by the heat and pressure of deep burial over millions of years.

IBdaMann wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Because it originally formed from plants, coal contains mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Coal helped create the carbon-based branch of chemistry we call "organic chemistry." When coal is heated in the absence of air, its complex mixture breaks down into simpler forms.23 Oct 2019.I am enjoying this.I am just searching and copying stuff but I am learning new stuff which is why I joined this forum.ITN you stated you did not know how coal formed so you are out and IBDM you stated come to me with the hard stuff and I have cunningly led you to a hard place.You are beaten oik so give up now.I can call it fossil fuel with impunity

I mentioned previously that Politiplex is a reference site with lots of good information. You should have availed yourself.

Coal is not a Fossil
Hydrocarbons are not Fossils (and are renewable)

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James___ wrote:When did you realize that coal is not a fossil?

James___ wrote: Still, it's a "fossil" fuel.

James___ wrote: At the same time, the bones of a dinosaur are not fossils.

James___ wrote: The "leaves" in this limestone makes the limestone a fossil.

James___ wrote: And with "fossil fuels", it's the prehistoric rock that encases them that makes them fossil fuels.

IBdaMann wrote:
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Coal is not a Fossil
Hydrocarbons are not Fossils (and are renewable)

James___ wrote:When did you realize that coal is not a fossil?

If you had been paying attention, you would know that I have been saying that for a long time.

James___ wrote: Still, it's a "fossil" fuel.

Nope. Why would you even think that, especially knowing that coal is not a fossil?

James___ wrote: At the same time, the bones of a dinosaur are not fossils.

If they provide information of the previously living organism that created them then yes, they are clearly fossils then.

James___ wrote: The "leaves" in this limestone makes the limestone a fossil.

Nope. The limestone is not the fossil. The impression which provides information about the previously living organism that created it is the fossil.

James___ wrote: And with "fossil fuels", it's the prehistoric rock that encases them that makes them fossil fuels.

The age of something other than fossils is irrelevant in determining fossils.

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The impression which provides information about the previously living organism that created it is the fossil.

James___ wrote:Then if fuels are created by organisms which leave an impression in the surrounding strata, then they are what?

duncan61 wrote:
Coal is mostly carbon with variable amounts of other elements;

duncan61 wrote:
chiefly hydrogen, sulfur, oxygen, and nitrogen.

duncan61 wrote:
Coal is formed when dead plant matter decays into peat and is converted into coal by the heat and pressure of deep burial over millions of years.

duncan61 wrote:
I am sticking with this people

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Because it originally formed from plants, coal contains mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Coal helped create the carbon-based branch of chemistry we call "organic chemistry." When coal is heated in the absence of air, its complex mixture breaks down into simpler forms.23 Oct 2019.I am enjoying this.I am just searching and copying stuff but I am learning new stuff which is why I joined this forum.ITN you stated you did not know how coal formed so you are out and IBDM you stated come to me with the hard stuff and I have cunningly led you to a hard place.You are beaten oik so give up now.I can call it fossil fuel with impunity

I mentioned previously that Politiplex is a reference site with lots of good information. You should have availed yourself.

Coal is not a Fossil
Hydrocarbons are not Fossils (and are renewable)

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That's funny. I needed a good laugh.

When did you realize that coal is not a fossil?

James___ wrote:
Still, it's a "fossil" fuel.

James___ wrote:
At the same time, the bones of a dinosaur are not fossils.

James___ wrote:
It's what's around them that is the "fossil".

James___ wrote:
The "leaves" in this limestone makes the limestone a fossil.

James___ wrote:
And with "fossil fuels",
[quote]James___ wrote:
it's the prehistoric rock that encases them that makes them fossil fuels.

James___ wrote:
And with "fossil fuels",

it's the prehistoric rock that encases them that makes them fossil fuels.

James___ wrote: This is to Dinosaur Provincial Park.

keepit wrote:ibd, Could you demonstrate your knowledge of radiometric dating by describing what you don't consider valid?

keepit wrote:
Peanut butter you say? Not much of an answer ibd. I sure doesn't demonstrate any significant knowledge.

keepit wrote:Baloney.

James___ wrote:
And you're searching for a trigger. You're hoping to get a reaction from such an ignorant post. Kind of why I think of you as a Shadow Warrior. It is in my opinion that is what "Into the Night" alludes to.

James___ wrote:
And your last 2 quotes of me are correct. I made it into one quote.

James___ wrote:
And with "fossil fuels",

it's the prehistoric rock that encases them that makes them fossil fuels.

James___ wrote:
I'm just not sure why you and IBDM debate something so basic.

James___ wrote:
Am starting to think that you guys thought that bones are fossils when they aren't.

James___ wrote:
When some bones are removed from rock by using tools to break apart the rock, the fossil is being destroyed.

James___ wrote:
I just watched a show about this yesterday. There's a park in Alberta, Canada that has so many fossils in which they find prehistoric bones.

keepit wrote:
Still no significant answer demonstrating knowledge. You're full of it.

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: This is to Dinosaur Provincial Park.

Tell me about it. Paleontologists are drooling over the latest archaeological dig there. Back in January surveyors discovered a fully preserved Commodore Amiga and now the international community is talking about the next rewrite of the fossil record.

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James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: This is to Dinosaur Provincial Park.

Tell me about it. Paleontologists are drooling over the latest archaeological dig there. Back in January surveyors discovered a fully preserved Commodore Amiga and now the international community is talking about the next rewrite of the fossil record.

Are you still using yours?

HarveyH55 wrote: I don't think coal is pure carbon. I think diamonds are the purest form of carbon. There are Kentucky coal mines. Bur oddly, no Kentucky diamond mines. You can find diamonds in Arkansas, but there is no coal mines... But states seem to consume large volumes of corn whiskey.

duncan61 wrote:
If coal is pure carbon how is there different types.I am searching and posting what I find relevant how is that being dishonest.

duncan61 wrote:
noun
a combustible black or dark brown rock consisting chiefly of carbonized plant matter, found mainly in underground seams and used as fuel.

Coal is formed when dead plant matter submerged in swamp environments is subjected to the geological forces of heat and pressure over hundreds of millions of years. Over time, the plant matter transforms from moist, low-carbon peat, to coal, an energy- and carbon-dense black or brownish-black sedimentary rock.18 Dec 2017

Coal | Definition of Coal at Dictionary.comwww.dictionary.com › browse › coal
noun. a black or dark-brown combustible mineral substance consisting of carbonized vegetable matter, used as a fuel. Compare anthracite, bituminous coal, lignite. a piece of glowing, charred, or burned wood or other combustible substance.
So all these people are wrong and you are right.Fascinating

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think coal is pure carbon. I think diamonds are the purest form of carbon. There are Kentucky coal mines. Bur oddly, no Kentucky diamond mines. You can find diamonds in Arkansas, but there is no coal mines... But states seem to consume large volumes of corn whiskey.

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't think coal is pure carbon. I think diamonds are the purest form of carbon. There are Kentucky coal mines. Bur oddly, no Kentucky diamond mines. You can find diamonds in Arkansas, but there is no coal mines... But states seem to consume large volumes of corn whiskey.

Coal is pure carbon. The only difference is how much other stuff is mixed in with the coal. That other stuff doesn't burn and must be cleaned periodically from the furnace, known as 'clinker'.

Pure carbon can take many forms. It's a very versatile atom, able to bond with itself in a variety of different ways.

It can be an extremely fine powder, known as 'float carbon'. Nasty stuff. It gets everywhere.
Powdered carbon can be packed into a mass. Lumps of coal.
Graphite is carbon atoms in the shape of flat plate. This makes graphite (pure carbon) very slippery. It is sometimes used as a dry lubricant, or as a flow agent for some chemicals (such as some types of gunpowder).
Diamond is carbon atoms arranged in the shape of a tetrahedron. This is 'stackable', in other words, it has the ability to make a crystaline form...diamonds.

ALL of them are pure carbon.

keepit wrote: What is pure carbon? What is impure carbon?

keepit wrote:
What is pure carbon?
What is impure carbon?

duncan61 wrote:
You acuse me of dishonesty and evading and did not address the origion of coal only claimed the dictionary is wrong

duncan61 wrote: You acuse me of dishonesty and evading and did not address the origion of coal only claimed the dictionary is wrong