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Definition of Climate Change27-11-2019 16:25
Third world guy
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The term 'Climate Change' is constantly mentioned in this forum, and IBDaMann and Into the Night repeatedly ask whoever uses it to define it before.

They must have their reasons for this -I do not deny it or blame them- but it would be interesting that both of them define it, or at least tell us why they do not define it.

Please do not tell me to define the term 'definition'.


There are three kinds of climate change: that generated by natural factors; that generated by man; and that generated by economic interests.
27-11-2019 19:23
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Third world guy wrote:
The term 'Climate Change' is constantly mentioned in this forum, and IBDaMann and Into the Night repeatedly ask whoever uses it to define it before.
IBDaMann has defined it (not to the liking of the Church of Global Warming). His definition so far has not been successfully challanged.

However, since the Church of Global Warming (and you) reject that definition, then you must define the term 'climate change'.

Third world guy wrote:
They must have their reasons for this -I do not deny it or blame them- but it would be interesting that both of them define it, or at least tell us why they do not define it.

We are not the ones trying to build a theory out of it. You cannot pass the buck that way. YOU have to define it. Shifting the burden of proof fallacy.
Third world guy wrote:
Please do not tell me to define the term 'definition'.

Okay. Define 'climate change'.


The Parrot Killer
27-11-2019 19:25
spot
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The only logical explanation I can think of is that they got kicked in the head by a horse.
27-11-2019 19:27
spot
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Why else spend so much time on something that is unknowable.


IBdaMann wrote:
"Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody.


Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T.
27-11-2019 20:20
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spot wrote:
The only logical explanation I can think of is that they got kicked in the head by a horse.


Never been kicked by a horse. I treat them with the respect they deserve.


The Parrot Killer
27-11-2019 20:21
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spot wrote:
Why else spend so much time on something that is unknowable.


You tell me. It is YOU making these wild claims.


The Parrot Killer
27-11-2019 21:12
HarveyH55
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climate change
noun [ U ]
UK /ˈklaɪ.mət ˌtʃeɪndʒ/ US /ˈklaɪ.mət ˌtʃeɪndʒ/

an illegal plan for making money, especially one that involves tricking people
27-11-2019 22:01
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Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Why else spend so much time on something that is unknowable.


You tell me. It is YOU making these wild claims.


Yeah ITN would never make wild claims:
Into the Night wrote: No one can know the temperature of Denver.
link


"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them
Edited on 27-11-2019 22:01
28-11-2019 12:58
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Why else spend so much time on something that is unknowable.


You tell me. It is YOU making these wild claims.


Yeah ITN would never make wild claims:
Into the Night wrote: No one can know the temperature of Denver.
link


The wild claim is yours, dude. It is YOU that is claiming you know the temperature of Denver, the temperature of Venus, the temperature of the Moon, and the temperature of Earth. It is YOU that is denying mathematics to make these claims.


The Parrot Killer
28-11-2019 14:52
spot
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So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?
28-11-2019 16:08
Third world guy
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I'm still waiting for someone to give me a definition of 'climate change'.

You may believe in it or not; many things can be questioned about it; but to debate on 'climate change' it is necessary to start from a consensus definition.

Does anyone dare to give a definition, or should we consider climate change as an amorphous, invisible, odorless, tasteless and inexistant ghost?


There are three kinds of climate change: that generated by natural factors; that generated by man; and that generated by economic interests.
28-11-2019 16:34
HarveyH55
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The word climate can be misleading. It's general related to atmosphere, environment, weather. But, it can also be applied to other things like politics, financials, society. The change we are really being subjected to, is the financial, political, and society, socialism. It's about redistribution of wealth, political power, and enslaving/murdering the poor.
28-11-2019 21:06
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spot wrote:
So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?


RQAA.


The Parrot Killer
28-11-2019 21:07
spot
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Climate, noun

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Change verb

make or become different.
28-11-2019 21:11
spot
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Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?


RQAA.


Not really an answer just a load of random letters so in retort.

weiphajogrjojopphihi[0gaerfweu9pbgwefnivsdsdnvi0[rwg


IBdaMann wrote:
"Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody.


Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T.
28-11-2019 22:19
Third world guy
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Let's start from the base:

Weather is the objective perception of temperature, humidity and its consequences (such as rain, cold, heat, snow, etc.).

Climate is the weather in the medium and long term, where the medium and long term begins after five or ten years.

'Climate change' refers to climate variations, that is, to the behavior of the weather in the medium and long term.

I wait for idiomatic opinions!


There are three kinds of climate change: that generated by natural factors; that generated by man; and that generated by economic interests.
28-11-2019 23:17
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spot wrote:
Climate, noun

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Change verb

make or become different.


So 'climate change' is defined as 'climate change'??? Circular definition. Try again.


The Parrot Killer
28-11-2019 23:18
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spot wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?


RQAA.


Not really an answer just a load of random letters so in retort.

weiphajogrjojopphihi[0gaerfweu9pbgwefnivsdsdnvi0[rwg


Repetitious Question Already Answered. RQAA.


The Parrot Killer
28-11-2019 23:21
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Third world guy wrote:
Let's start from the base:

Weather is the objective perception of temperature, humidity and its consequences (such as rain, cold, heat, snow, etc.).

Reasonable.
Third world guy wrote:
Climate is the weather in the medium and long term, where the medium and long term begins after five or ten years.
Why five or ten years? Which is it? Define 'a long time'.
Third world guy wrote:
'Climate change' refers to climate variations, that is, to the behavior of the weather in the medium and long term.

Weather changes constantly. It is made up of quantitative values. Climate is subject, like 'desert climate', 'marine climate', etc. It has no quantitative values. A desert climate is always a desert climate. Climate does not change.


The Parrot Killer
29-11-2019 00:28
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Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Climate, noun

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Change verb

make or become different.


So 'climate change' is defined as 'climate change'??? Circular definition. Try again.


No. Climate change is defined in that box of text you linked. It wasn't addressed to you anyway simple definitions are beyond you so don't bother trying to understand


IBdaMann wrote:
"Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody.


Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T.
29-11-2019 00:32
spot
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Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?


RQAA.


Not really an answer just a load of random letters so in retort.

weiphajogrjojopphihi[0gaerfweu9pbgwefnivsdsdnvi0[rwg


Repetitious Question Already Answered. RQAA.



You can't expect people to understand these stupid words you make up.

And I don't recall you answering the question nor do I expect one from you.


IBdaMann wrote:
"Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody.


Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T.
29-11-2019 05:33
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spot wrote: Why else spend so much time on something that is unknowable.

There's a certain draw that religions have. I am an atheist so I don't spend any time worshiping that religion.


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
29-11-2019 06:00
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Third world guy wrote: Let's start from the base:

Let's start from the base: you suck at science. You have absolutely no business engaging in this conversation. You have nothing to contribute but gibberish. Let's just say that nobody will be asking you to review any developing theories. Let's just say that nobody will be asking you for your thoughts on developing a test plan to apply the scientific method to any hypotheses. Let's just say that any assertions you make will require time for the reader to catch his breath from laughing hysterically.

All right, let's take a look at what you have to say ...

Third world guy wrote:Weather is the objective perception of temperature, humidity and its consequences (such as rain, cold, heat, snow, etc.).

... and pressure-cooking, and steam-cleaning, and distilling, and millions of things that normal people don't associate with the weather. You would get an "F" on a second-grade science test with that answer. What the fugg compelled you to jump into this thread and believe you had something intelligent to add?

I'll help you out. Weather is the aggregate of all measurable parameters of the atmosphere from the ground level up to an altitude of relevance. Just for laughs, tell me you disagree.

Third world guy wrote: Climate is the weather in the medium and long term, where the medium and long term begins after five or ten years.

There is no such thing as weather that doesn't change within that time period. What are you, and idiot? Did you even bother to look at what you had written? Can you really not see that what you wrote makes absolutely no sense whatsofuggingever? In your mind, what kind of reality do you believe you were expressing? Were you trying to say that the climate right now is whatever the weather will be in five years? I hope you weren't trying to regurgitate the "averaged weather" nonsense.

Anyways, please clarify ... preferably with applicable science.

Third world guy wrote: 'Climate change' refers to climate variations, that is, to the behavior of the weather in the medium and long term.

Math is not your strong suit either. Ask me how I know.

Are you trying to define Climate Change as the first derivative of the Climate function?

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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
29-11-2019 16:26
Third world guy
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IBDaMann:

Have you ever thought about contributing something of value in this forum, beyond your constant aggressions? Is that your way of treating people in person, or do you only do it in the anominate of the Internet?

Do you consider yourself the universal sage? Are only your opinions valid and accurate?

If you are that impressive genius who knows absolutely the truth, why don't you allow us to know it in detail?

Start by defining 'weather', 'climate' and 'climate change', as the Bible of the Church of IBDaMann says, so our ignorance is taken away.

I've never seen you post a thread, and I've seen you disprove all.

Why don't you delight us with a thread, so that we know your religion?

I get the impression that you dare not expose yourself.


There are three kinds of climate change: that generated by natural factors; that generated by man; and that generated by economic interests.
29-11-2019 20:10
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spot wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Climate, noun

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Change verb

make or become different.


So 'climate change' is defined as 'climate change'??? Circular definition. Try again.


No. Climate change is defined in that box of text you linked. It wasn't addressed to you anyway simple definitions are beyond you so don't bother trying to understand


You cannot define a word with itself. Circular definitions are meaningless.
It doesn't matter who you address the post to. This is not a private mail service.


The Parrot Killer
29-11-2019 20:11
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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spot wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
spot wrote:
So if I said the surface of the planet Venus could well be cooler than Denver that would be a reasonable thing to say?


RQAA.


Not really an answer just a load of random letters so in retort.

weiphajogrjojopphihi[0gaerfweu9pbgwefnivsdsdnvi0[rwg


Repetitious Question Already Answered. RQAA.



You can't expect people to understand these stupid words you make up.

And I don't recall you answering the question nor do I expect one from you.

Already did. RQAA.


The Parrot Killer
30-11-2019 05:21
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Third world guy wrote:Have you ever thought about contributing something of value in this forum,

Aaahhh, so the moron believes he is somehow the arbiter of what constitutes "value." How absurd. Let's reengage when you post your first item of value.

Third world guy wrote:I've never seen you post a thread, and I've seen you disprove all.

Have you read all my posts? Let me know when you have and then you can tell me what is lacking.

Third world guy wrote:Why don't you delight us with a thread, so that we know your religion?

No need. I am an atheist.

Third world guy wrote:I get the impression that you dare not expose yourself.

That's quite the testament to your poor judgement.


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-11-2019 05:22
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Third world guy wrote:...give me a definition of 'climate change'.
"Climate Change" is of course a topic title refering to AGW, Anthropogenic (man made) Global (Earth) Warming (Temperature increase).

Essentially:
Every planet has an average temperature
If that temperature increases it would be called "warming"
If it's caused by human activity it's aptly called anthropogenic

The reason people use "Climate Change" as a title is because "Climate" includes temperature as it's most important data point.

Could they say "temperature change"? Sure. A lot of things could have different titles.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The word climate can be misleading.
But it's not in this case.

"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them
30-11-2019 06:38
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tmiddles wrote:
Third world guy wrote:...give me a definition of 'climate change'.
"Climate Change" is of course a topic title refering to AGW, Anthropogenic (man made) Global (Earth) Warming (Temperature increase).

Essentially:
Every planet has an average temperature
If that temperature increases it would be called "warming"
If it's caused by human activity it's aptly called anthropogenic


Warming from when to when? Why are those two points in time significant? What are any other two points in time not significant?

Define 'global warming'. Define 'climate change'.

You can't define a word a phrase using an undefined word or phrase.


The Parrot Killer
30-11-2019 07:01
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tmiddles wrote:"Climate Change" is of course a topic title refering to AGW, Anthropogenic (man made) Global (Earth) Warming (Temperature increase).

So what kind of moron uses the word "Climate" when he's supposed to be using the word temperature? Are you saying that Branner was confused when he titled this board, i.e. he meant Temperature-Debate?

tmiddles wrote: Essentially:
Every planet has an average temperature
If that temperature increases it would be called "warming"
If it's caused by human activity it's aptly called anthropogenic

You specifically used the word "caused." This unequivocally means that you are talking about CAUSE -> EFFECT. This falls into the realm of science, i.e. Cause X has Effect Y. So what science are warmizombies claiming clarifies the CAUSE -> EFFECT of Global Warming?


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-11-2019 07:41
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IBdaMann wrote:...you saying that Branner was confused when he titled this board, i.e. he meant Temperature-Debate?
And what did he mean in your opinion?
30-11-2019 07:41
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IBdaMann wrote:...you saying that Branner was confused when he titled this board, i.e. he meant Temperature-Debate?
And what did he mean in your opinion?
30-11-2019 18:05
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:...you saying that Branner was confused when he titled this board, i.e. he meant Temperature-Debate?
And what did he mean in your opinion?

I'll take that as a "Yes, he most certainly was."

That's an odd response. Why do you think this?


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-11-2019 20:21
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
....your opinion?

...Why do you think this?
DODGE

This website is called CLIMATE-DEBATE.COM, "Discuss Climate Change", yet ITN/IBD routinely pretend that no one knows what those words mean. That the very title of this website is undefined nonsense.

And your weird sucking up to the totally checked out creator of the site is especially odd.
Edited on 30-11-2019 20:23
30-11-2019 20:32
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
...Why do you think this?

DODGE

Stop EVADING, the ball is in your court. What is your NEXT definition of "heat" so we can plan ahead?

... and just how confused do you claim Branner to be?


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-11-2019 20:54
Xadoman
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Not a long time ago I was almost jumping to the climate hysteria bandwagon - 1,5c world, 2c world etc to the 6 c world that already ment extinction. I always thought how such little change in temperature could lead to so bad outcome and was not entirely convinced. I started to investigate this matter more and partially thanks to this forum I reached to inner belief that all of this hysteria is heavily overexaggerated. Maybe there are some little changes but the effect could be only miniscule.The temperature depends how far we are from sun and that does not change a lot. Sun pushes earth farther away with light but that effect should also be minuscule.
30-11-2019 21:37
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Xadoman wrote:
Not a long time ago I was almost jumping to the climate hysteria bandwagon - 1,5c world, 2c world etc to the 6 c world that already ment extinction.

Without going through my whole Global Warming story, I too used to be ( decades ago) onboard with the Church of Global Warming ... until I decided I was going to program my own Climate model and rake all the "deniers" over the coals. I started asking for the science being used by the Climate Scientists so I could code it up. I was expecting the whole network to rush me that science and support my efforts. Instead the backs arched and the hissing started. I was instead treated like I had walked into a Catholic church service asking if I could perform a virgin sacrifice. Reality became very clear to me over those few weeks.

Ask me how I know that there are no Climate models.


Xadoman wrote: I always thought how such little change in temperature could lead to so bad outcome and was not entirely convinced.

Is that perhaps because you have experienced day turn into night turn into day turn into night again? Is it because you have observed the temperature change by more than ten degrees every single day and noticed that all life on planet earth never seems to become extinct?

Xadoman wrote: Maybe there are some little changes but the effect could be only miniscule.

So, at some point, you realized that if there are any such "global" changes that you aren't able to discern them yourself? Perhaps you started to wonder why it is that you always need someone from the Church of Global Warming to notify you of what changes you are supposed to BELIEVE have happened? Is it perhaps the case that those global changes could actually be small DECREASES in temperature and you wouldn't be able to tell? So how are these warmizombies somehow able to be so religiously certain that the end of the world draweth nigh and that we should PANIC ... and hurry to levy TAXES, yes TAXES and more TAXES before we reach the tipping point but it might already be too late so we need more TAXES right now! ... right?


Xadoman wrote:The temperature depends how far we are from sun and that does not change a lot.

Correct. The earth's temperature is determined by the power (Radiance * Incident Surface Area, typically measured in Watts in this case) of the thermal radiation incident with the earth multiplied by the earth's Emissivity. If you care to, do a quick lookup of "Inverse Square Law" which is just an equation that tells you the strength of that solar thermal radiation when it reaches earth (it weakens from "dissipation" as it travels to earth). All these calculations combined are everything that determines the earth's temperature. Only additional energy can increase temperature. No CO2 nor any other substance is capable of increasing a body's temperature.


Xadoman wrote: Sun pushes earth farther away with light but that effect should also be minuscule.

Not really. The earth's gradual slowing in its orbit causes its distance from the sun to increase. It's all just Newton's laws of motion (and Kepler's 2nd Law).


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-11-2019 21:48
Xadoman
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TAXES, yes TAXES and more TAXES


I see it now clearly.

Not really. The earth's gradual slowing in its orbit causes its distance from the sun to increase. It's all just Newton's laws of motion (and Kepler's 2nd Law).


But does not light have a pressure? Anyway, it seems that things are getting colder in the long run.
01-12-2019 04:51
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Xadoman wrote: But does not light have a pressure?

No.

Xadoman wrote: Anyway, it seems that things are getting colder in the long run.

Well, in the short term at least. Measurements of the sun's magnetic field indicate a reduction in solar activity which forecasts cooling temperatures for earth, but not really enough for us to necessarily discern a difference. In fact warmizombies will continue to delude themselves into believing "eight of the earth's hottest years globally have been in this last decade." They have to recite that prayer every evening for their devotions.


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

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Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

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IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
01-12-2019 11:17
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So do you want to say that the concept of solar sail is a myth?
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