15-11-2019 22:53 | |
Dom_Hayes_420☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
TomF1 wrote:Dom_Hayes_420 wrote: |
15-11-2019 23:13 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
HarveyH55 wrote: And your tax dollars are helping to subsidize a business whose investors profit. BTW, I will be having surgery at your expense as well. It won't allow me to work but since you're paying for it, I can live with it. You make this too easy Harvey. Corporations and a disabled Veteran will have it better because of tax payers like you. And to be an ass hole about this, Thanks for helping to pay for the surgery I will be having. I might actually be able to have a Christmas dinner this year. |
16-11-2019 01:29 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
TomF1 wrote:spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:TomF1 wrote:TomFines wrote: PLEASE STOP DEVOURING THERMOMETERS, THATS WHY WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH[/quote] What about the delicious taste of Mercury. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
16-11-2019 08:52 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14450) |
[*find-ITISNOTPOSSIBLELIST] * It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. There are not enough thermometers. * It is not possible to use satellites to measure absolute temperatures. The emissivity of Earth is unknown. * It is not possible to measure a global sea level using reference points that move. * It is not possible to measure global precipitation or even 'regional' precipitation, unless that 'region' is the size of the 1 inch square rain gauge opening. * It is possible to measure the size and relative strength of hurricanes. That data is stored at the National Hurricane Center. It shows there has been no increase in the frequency or strength of storms overall. * It is not possible to measure the temperature of anything much beyond where a thermometer is located. Temperatures can vary as much as 20 deg F per mile. If you are going to try to use statistical math to calculate a global temperature at any given moment, you must: 1) use raw data free of bias. No cooked data allowed. Bias sources for temperature are time and location grouping. Their effects must be eliminated. Readings must be at the same time (by the same authority) and thermometers must be uniformly spaced. 2) publish that raw data, who collected it, when it was collected, and the instrumentation used to collect it. 3) select from that raw data by randN (same random number as found in playing cards). 4) declare the variance used. 5) normalize that selection by paired randR (same random number on two or more dice). 6) calculate mean, and calculate margin of error. Both numbers are required to give the summary any meaning. * Statistical math is not capable of prediction normally inherent in mathematics due to its use of random numbers. It can only summarize past or present data. Each summary is independent of all other summaries, even if the same data and variance source is used. * It IS possible to measure ice extent using satellites. The winter ice extent (square miles of polar ice) is in a database at the National Snow and Ice data center in Colorado. It shows the Arctic has been growing the last few years. It is not possible to measure the thickness of this ice. * It is not possible to measure the total snow and ice on Earth. That changes by the minute due to weather. * It is not possible to measure global precipitation. That changes by the minute due to weather. * It is not possible to measure the pH of the ocean. It is possible to measure the pH of a sample of water though. pH varies from place to place in the ocean. We don't know by how much. * it is not possible to measure a global CO2 concentration in the atmosphere. CO2 is not uniformly distributed in the atmosphere. We don't have enough stations, and they are on the surface. * No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth simply by being there. It is not possible to create energy out of nothing (1st law of thermodynamics). Assuming the same Sun output, the temperature of the Earth is the same. It cannot change due to some magick gas. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
16-11-2019 19:04 | |
TomF1☆☆☆☆☆ (7) |
As a year 8 chemistry student, I can tell you that the ocean is solely composed of H+ ions, which give the ocean some acidity. Pure water is practically impossible to obtain as once 2 water molecules interact, the decompose releasing 4H+ ions and O2. This process is accelerated by heat, which explains the oxygen gas given off by hot water (aka steam). This oxygen has a high amount of kinetic energy however, when it's kinetic energy drops it doesn't rebond with 2H+ molecules unless it gains a lot more energy and a large pressure increase. As a matter of fact, if the organic oxygen molecule falls below a certain temperature (below 290kelvin to be precise) it permanently loses the ability to react with 2 H+ ions to reform pure water. Once the oxygen from the ocean is completely gone, humans will evolve to live off other gases e.g. chlorine gas or methane, which will worsen climate change. |
16-11-2019 22:35 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
TomF1 wrote: Which school? You should get your money back. TomF1 wrote: Aren't you forgetting the OH- ions? TomF1 wrote: WRONG. It's H+ and OH-. They then recombine into H2O. Equilibrium. TomF1 wrote: Steam is not oxygen. TomF1 wrote: Steam consists of water...H2O. TomF1 wrote: Oxygen is not an organic molecule. TomF1 wrote: It is not possible to go below zero deg Kelvin. TomF1 wrote: Oxygen isn't destroyed. TomF1 wrote: Define 'climate change'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth using infrared light emitted from Earth's surface. You can't create energy out of nothing (1st law of thermodynamics). You claim to be an eight year student of chemistry. I don't believe you. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-11-2019 09:47 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
TomF1 wrote:Don't worry Tom no one else is confused about the Dictionary (not even these jokers) it's just an attempt to side track debate. thomasistrouble1 wrote:The only reason there is climate change is because of china this is because communists are advocating climate change to take over the capitalists and communists want to bring climate change to save us allI think you mean that China is pushing a climate change myth in order to game an upper hand in global dominance? So you should probably work on disproving climate change. HarveyH55 wrote:I think that qualifies as an inconvenient truth for Al Gore. HarveyH55 wrote:Ironically that's a highly speculative position for you to take. The history of scientific achievement has worked with a lot less than we have now with respect to understanding the temperature of a planet. But really your desire that we not try is evident. Into the Night wrote:To what margin or error? How much ACCURACY on that ITN? Curious as it's one of the only times you've ever admitted anyting could be measured! James___ wrote:Oooh good point! Yes and we stopped cutting our trees down in California. Also rich folks like to have plants around their homes so they won't cut buffers. TomF1 wrote:I think this is an excellent parallel to issues of global ecology in general. It's been raised here before: IBdaMann wrote: "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
17-11-2019 13:09 | |
Dom_Hayes_420☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
ngl i think ur all just a bit retarded lol |
17-11-2019 16:16 | |
thomasistrouble1☆☆☆☆☆ (4) |
It honestly doesn't matter if there is climate change or not, as in the end Jesus will come down and bless the earth by cooling it down. Effectively restoring the earth to its previous state before climate change took place therefore your arguments are null
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18-11-2019 00:21 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:TomF1 wrote:Don't worry Tom no one else is confused about the Dictionary (not even these jokers) it's just an attempt to side track debate. Climate has no temperature. A desert climate is not describing a temperature of any kind. A marine climate is not describing a temperature of any kind. You can't define 'global warming' as 'global warming'. Climate is not weather. There is no such thing as a 'global climate'. tmiddles wrote:thomasistrouble1 wrote:The only reason there is climate change is because of china this is because communists are advocating climate change to take over the capitalists and communists want to bring climate change to save us allI think you mean that China is pushing a climate change myth in order to game an upper hand in global dominance? Void proof. Void argument fallacy. Buzzword fallacy. Define 'climate change'. There is nothing to prove either way. tmiddles wrote:HarveyH55 wrote:Ironically that's a highly speculative position for you to take. A void is not a speculation. Burden of proof fallacy. YOU have to justify proxy use. Science doesn't use proxies. tmiddles wrote: A temperature is not an 'understanding'. Redefinition fallacy. tmiddles wrote: Try what? Void argument fallacy. tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:To what margin or error? How much ACCURACY on that ITN? Curious as it's one of the only times you've ever admitted anyting could be measured! No statistic used here. Redefinition fallacy (observation<->statistical math). tmiddles wrote:James___ wrote:Oooh good point! Yes and we stopped cutting our trees down in California. Also rich folks like to have plants around their homes so they won't cut buffers. And climate has not changed. A desert climate is still a desert climate. A marine climate is still a marine climate. tmiddles wrote:TomF1 wrote:I think this is an excellent parallel to issues of global ecology in general. It's been raised here before: Define 'global ecology'. Buzzword fallacy. What does a meaningless buzzword have to do with vaccinations? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
20-11-2019 09:01 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:OK what is your definition of "Climate"? The definition is the average weather (this is an annual, 12 month cycle because we're on Earth) which includes temperature. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
20-11-2019 17:53 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14450) |
tmiddles wrote: The definition is the average weather (this is an annual, 12 month cycle because we're on Earth) which includes temperature. I realize this is the timeless question and it is daunting, but perhaps you can be the first to actually address it (man, would that be great!). Could you give me an example of average global weather? Is it rain? Is it wind? What is it? If the weather forecast for my area happened to be "Today we'll be getting average global weather" then what would I be expecting? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
20-11-2019 19:14 | |
GasGuzzler★★★★★ (2935) |
IBdaMann wrote: Quite nasty and pleasant today with highs ranging from the -50s to 115. Winds will be calm from the SW NW NE and swinging around to the SE, gusting to 100 mph. It will be cloudy and clear, with on and off storms, mostly on or off. Just another average day where you'll want to pack your speedo and a parka. Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan |
20-11-2019 22:16 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:OK what is your definition of "Climate"? Climate is a subjective word describing prevalent environmental conditions, including quite possibly, weather. Climate has no time frame specified. A desert climate is always a desert climate. A marine climate is always a marine climate. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
20-11-2019 22:17 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
GasGuzzler wrote:IBdaMann wrote: The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
22-11-2019 06:14 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote: Weather is: "the state of the atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness" So basically humidity, temperature, wind and cloud cover. The Weather in Denver is as easily defined as the Weather of Earth, and just as impossible to give as a precise value for humidity, temp, wind or cloud cover. Because from spot to spot, and moment to moment it will vary. This is true of everything in the universe. GasGuzzler wrote:...highs ranging from the -50s to 115....you'll want to pack your speedo and a parka.Yeah, kinda. Why did you say -50 to 115 ? Why not 700 degrees? I mean could it be 700 degrees? That's the temperature we measured on Venus. Oh and could Venus be -50s too? Do we have no idea? Everything every measured has a range gentleman. EVERYTHING If you reject a temperature for something because it's not one precise stable value, then you got nothing at all. Into the Night wrote:Climates on Earth have 12 months cycle. Because this is Earth. Into the Night wrote: Into the Night wrote:That would include temperature bub. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 22-11-2019 06:18 |
22-11-2019 12:17 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote: So you have correctly described weather as a set of quantifiable values. What you fail to realize (yet again) is that while these values can be measured at a particular location at a particular time, the measurements are only good for that particular location for that particular time. They do not describe any other location or any other time. tmiddles wrote:GasGuzzler wrote:...highs ranging from the -50s to 115....you'll want to pack your speedo and a parka.Yeah, kinda. Why did you say -50 to 115 ? Why not 700 degrees? I mean could it be 700 degrees? That's the temperature we measured on Venus. Oh and could Venus be -50s too? Do we have no idea? We have no idea. One thermometer cannot measure the temperature of any planet. tmiddles wrote: Correct. You fail to realize this. Am I going to log another paradox for you? tmiddles wrote: Precisely. You have nothing at all. tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:Climates on Earth have 12 months cycle. Because this is Earth. Climate has no time frame specified. tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: Nope. A desert climate is always a desert climate. It doesn't matter whether it's a hot desert or a cold desert. It is still a desert climate. Climate does not change. Unlike weather, it has no set of quantitative values. It has no time frame either. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
22-11-2019 16:37 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote: Yes and this is as true of Denver tomorrow at 2:00 PM and then at 2:05 PM as it is of the Earth in 1900 and 1950. Its also true of a block of steel in the lab at 2:00 PM and 2:01PM. There is always a range. What is true is you are opting out of participating in the useful employment of the scientific method. Be honest and admit upfront that you dont believe humans ever know what the weather is beyond a single point in space in time. That YOU believe, pretty much all by yourself, that we have "no idea" what the weather is in south Denver from a measurement in north Denver. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
22-11-2019 18:56 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: Science isn't data. Science isn't random numbers. Science isn't bad math. Science isn't a 'method'. It is just the falsifiable theories themselves. Theories that you simply deny, along with mathematics. tmiddles wrote: Not a belief. It is the math. tmiddles wrote: Not a belief. It is the math. Math is not a belief. Math a set of axioms defining numbers and operators. It is a closed system, normally capable of the power of prediction and the formal proof. Where random numbers are used, however, you lose the power of prediction. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
22-11-2019 23:05 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:Where random numbers are used, however, you lose the power of prediction.A measurement of the temperature of the surface of Venus is not a random number. Nor is a measurement of North Denver. You falsely claim that measurements are random. What would a "random" measurement even be? Also your weirdo definitions of the world "science" are totally made up by you. In any case the rest of humanity has been very "useful" in figuring things out and employing t hat knowledge. No one will make you join us. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
22-11-2019 23:48 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14450) |
tmiddles wrote: What would a "random" measurement even be? I can answer that for you. Temperature differences affect the measuring device. Excessive temperatures affect the measuring device greatly, but we don't know how much. The same goes for pressure. We can assume that both the temperature and pressure on Venus where the probe landed was pretty high. We don't know how high and we don't know how the specific temperature and pressure at that moment threw off the temperature reading, i.e. Unknown Temperature +/ Unknow Error. Hmmm. Wait! This measurement is a random value. We don't what we're getting. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
23-11-2019 00:11 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote: You're claiming with no evidence or rational whatsoever that the instrumentation used from the 1970s through the 1990s to take direct measurements was so inaccurate at ~700F that we have NO IDEA what the temperature was? That our technology makes measuring temperature that high impossible? So bad that it's "Random"? OK You just made all of that up and it's entirely false. Head down to your local pottery class and talk tot he instructor about the kiln and if the temp inside is unknown as well. Also learn what the word "Random" actually means. "made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision." Rough is not Random Every temperature measurement ever taken is "rough" based on some higher standard of precision. So what did the russians use on Venera? A "resistance thermometer" I don't know the model but that type of thermometer currently shows a range up to 1000C with accuracy to ±0.001 °C I gather they are more reliable than thermocouples. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 23-11-2019 00:19 |
23-11-2019 05:23 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:It is if you call that the temperature of Venus.Into the Night wrote:Where random numbers are used, however, you lose the power of prediction.A measurement of the temperature of the surface of Venus is not a random number. tmiddles wrote:It is if you call that the temperature of North Denver. tmiddles wrote:The measurement isn't, they way you use it is. tmiddles wrote:Contextomy fallacy. tmiddles wrote:Nope. RDCF. RQAA. tmiddles wrote: Void argument fallacy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
23-11-2019 05:28 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:....is not a random number....It is if you call that the temperature of North Denver. So you're saying the temperature of North Denver is unknowable? "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 23-11-2019 05:28 |
23-11-2019 05:29 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Calling that the temperature of Venus is an argument from randU fallacy.IBdaMann wrote: tmiddles wrote:No, YOU made all that up. Inversion fallacy. tmiddles wrote:It is known well enough, since the kiln is so small is made of a good thermal insulator. tmiddles wrote: "made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision."[/quote] Not the definition of 'random'. I have already told you what a random number is and their various types and where they each come from. RDCF. RQAA. tmiddles wrote:Non-sequitur fallacy. tmiddles wrote:WRONG. Every useful measurement is within some useful tolerance. Tolerance is not margin of error. Redefinition fallacy. tmiddles wrote:Irrelevant. You are denying the math by using a redefinition fallacy. tmiddles wrote: Irrelevant. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
23-11-2019 05:30 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:....is not a random number....It is if you call that the temperature of North Denver. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
23-11-2019 05:32 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:....is not a random number....It is if you call that the temperature of North Denver. As so you are! RQAA, Really Quite Absolutely Accurate Well you should be honest with people. Just open with "we never know the weather" before you say anything else on this topic and they'll know to ignore you. |
23-11-2019 18:10 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:....is not a random number....It is if you call that the temperature of North Denver. Not the meaning of RQAA and you know it. RDCF. tmiddles wrote: You do know the weather. Go stand outside in it. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
24-11-2019 02:10 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote: Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. You claim it can be known in on point in space at one time only and beyond that point it is entirely unknown, no clue at all. So if on a street cormer in south Denver its snowing and cold, and someone headed to their house in North Denver asks what weather to expect you ITN, and only you, have no clue. Could be anything, 700F, -50 IT CANNOT BE KNOWN!! By just you though We're doing fine without your endorsement. |
24-11-2019 02:41 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14450) |
tmiddles wrote:Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. Is this the position you are assigning to me today? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
24-11-2019 13:09 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. What position are you taking today? Is the surface of the planet Venus hotter then denver and how do you know that? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
25-11-2019 09:01 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: Weather reports occur every six hours in the United States. tmiddles wrote: Weather reports don't record a time or a single point in space. They are generic reports of forecasts. tmiddles wrote: Nowhere on Earth reaches 700 deg F. No where in Denver has recorded temperatures so high or low. Extreme argument fallacy. tmiddles wrote: Correct. tmiddles wrote: Nope. No one can know the temperature of Denver. Just at the point the thermometer is. tmiddles wrote: My 'endorsement' is not a factor here. Again, you deny the mathematics. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
25-11-2019 09:03 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
spot wrote:IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. Denver has never recorded a temperature of 700 deg F. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
25-11-2019 10:16 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. Since when did you trust records of tempture? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
25-11-2019 11:49 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:Ah but by ITN/IBD rules there can be no weather report. Never was otherwise. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
25-11-2019 12:49 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
So you are saying that you do know what the temperature in denver is and you do know what the temperature on Venus is now? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
25-11-2019 19:19 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
spot wrote: No. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
25-11-2019 19:21 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
Into the Night wrote:spot wrote: So Venus could be cooler then Denver? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
27-11-2019 11:13 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:So are the RANDOM? RANDU? Are the truth? Are they useful at all? How can Denver have a "weather" but the Earth cannot have a "weather" ITN? Into the Night wrote: No one can know the temperature of Denver.Aaaah! There we have it. The only possible answer consistent with your entire position. IBD concures we must assume. And the statement any rational person needs to dismiss you. Because, well, we know the temperature of Denver! The WEATHER OF DENVER (temperature included) spot wrote:So Venus could be cooler then Denver?I know you're enjoying ITN painted in his corner SPOT. So am I! "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
27-11-2019 19:07 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21628) |
spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote: Sure. Why not? Venus is quite a ways south of Denver, but it's nearer the sea. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
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