Why can't you say Venus is hotter than Mercury because Venus got CO2?

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18-12-2019 23:05
Into the Night★★★★★ (12950)	tmiddles wrote: James___ wrote: tmiddles wrote: Into the Night wrote: You already did. RQAA. So you have nothing to say on the radiant output of a human body? It's less than the calories it consumes? I'm not talking about the NET thermal transfer, or HEAT of the human body, ~100watts, I'm talking about the radiance. How much radiant energy comes off of a human body (my avatar being a graphic depiction). No such thing as net heat. RDCF. tmiddles wrote: Now ITN will chime in with some fallacy BS but he has NO CLUE what the radiance of the human body is. Can't apply the Stefan-Boltzmann equation, can't calculate it at all. It is UNKNOWABLE to him. RDCF. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
18-12-2019 23:20
Into the Night★★★★★ (12950)	tmiddles wrote: James___ wrote: Quite a lot of it depends on the capillaries. That's how the blood system transfers heat in the extremities. That would be how a human body convects thermal energy internally yes. Capillary relaxation is not convection. Redefinition fallacy. tmiddles wrote: But if we know the surface area, emmissivity and temperature of an object, including a living human, we can calculate the radiance using Stefan-Boltzman. Stefan-Boltzmann equation:___P(out)=σeA(T1^4) (5.67×10−8J/s⋅m2⋅K4)(0.97)(1.50m2)306K^4=-723W Your human is suffering from hypothermia. tmiddles wrote:* Now ITN/IBD and other deniers like to end debate by claiming that since there isn't one fixed exact value available for surface area (I use 1.5m2), There isn't. tmiddles wrote: emissivity (I use 0.97), Random number. Useless. tmiddles wrote: and temperature (I use 306K) Your test subject is suffering from hypothermia. Call 911 and begin treatment immediately. tmiddles wrote: that it's impossible to think about this. You just have to throw up your hands and run out of the room. Which YOU just did. tmiddles wrote: But you never will have a fixed and exact value for anything in this universe of ours. A measurement has no range. tmiddles wrote: The surface area, temperature and emmissivity of the human body is easy to put a range on though. A measurement has no range. [quote]tmiddles wrote: My point here is. They refuse to debate. They have no answer at all. RDCF. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
19-12-2019 01:05
tmiddles★★★★★ (3316)	IBdaMann wrote:No matter what is written you disagree. I would like to know if I disagree with your estimate of the radiance of a human body IBD. What is your estimate?
19-12-2019 05:01
IBdaMann★★★★★ (7270)	tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote:No matter what is written you disagree. I would like to know if I disagree with your estimate of the radiance of a human body IBD. What is your estimate? Off the cuff, 12. A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
19-12-2019 10:30
tmiddles★★★★★ (3316)	IBdaMann wrote: Off the cuff, 12. Show your math. Hint: you need to use the stefan-boltzmann equation to calculate radiance I can walk you through it if you don't know how.

19-12-2019 16:26
IBdaMann★★★★★ (7270)	tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote: Off the cuff, 12. Show your math. I didn't use any. You asked me for an estimate ... of something vague ... so I gave you a very rough off-the-cuff estimate of some vague notion. Do you really expect me to do arithmetic? I hate arithmetic. What is it you really need? . A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
19-12-2019 16:27
tmiddles★★★★★ (3316)	IBdaMann wrote: tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote: Off the cuff, 12. Show your math. I didn't use any. You asked me for an estimate ... of something vague ... so I gave you a very rough off-the-cuff estimate of some vague notion. Do you really expect me to do arithmetic? I hate arithmetic. What is it you really need? . So you have no idea. OK
19-12-2019 16:30
IBdaMann★★★★★ (7270)	tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote: tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote: Off the cuff, 12. Show your math. I didn't use any. You asked me for an estimate ... of something vague ... so I gave you a very rough off-the-cuff estimate of some vague notion. Do you really expect me to do arithmetic? I hate arithmetic. What is it you really need? . So you have no idea. OK OK. That was easy. . A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
19-12-2019 16:33
tmiddles★★★★★ (3316)	IBdaMann wrote: OK. That was easy. quitting is one of the easiest things in life IBD Announce you're useless and you just stop getting chores
19-12-2019 17:10
IBdaMann★★★★★ (7270)	tmiddles wrote: IBdaMann wrote: OK. That was easy. quitting is one of the easiest things in life IBD Not for smokers. Not for junkies. Not for liars. ... but you'll be glad you did. A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist

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