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18-01-2023 03:06
MajorScammer
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Gasguuzzler: What do you mean? No
This forum have some of the nicest people I have ever come across on any forum
The people on that Bessler Forum are very bad people, really bad
and the free energy forum energy getics or something like that no way I will ever go there again
I want to thank all the nice people here for being so nice so far. really!
MajorScammer:
18-01-2023 03:20
GasGuzzler
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MajorScammer wrote:
Gasguuzzler: What do you mean? No

If you are hear to teach, then you best know your shit six ways to Sunday. YOU must know and be able to articulate it. We don't do link wars here. Google is not a source of anything but grounds for "argument dismissed".

If you are here to preach, then you will be destroyed. Most here will not be nice.

If you are here to learn, then you could not have come to a better place. A few really good guys here that love to share their knowledge with people willing to discuss, ask questions, and learn. They are also willing to stand corrected if you can prove them wrong. Good luck.

Can I ask what brought you to Climate Debate?


Computer science made this page possible, whether you do not believe in science or not.- Swan
18-01-2023 04:08
MajorScammer
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I am just a simple MajorScammer:
What do you think I am here for
not to teach: that is for the people that can not do
not to preach that is for people that have a cause and no outlet
To learn? what have to offer that I don't already know? ( how do do know without knowing )
So being a MajorScammer - Lets see - What is left?
Maybe looking for people that want to talk with someone of equal value
Do you think anyone here is or has Equal value? This means open mine to possibilities
If there is no such beings on this forum
Then there is no important reason to remain if you get my drift.
18-01-2023 04:38
GasGuzzler
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MajorScammer wrote:
I am just a simple MajorScammer:
What do you think I am here for

I don't know. That's why I asked you.
MajorScammer wrote:
not to teach: that is for the people that can not do

I know plenty of teachers that preform work and service at a high level of excellence.
MajorScammer wrote:
To learn? what have to offer that I don't already know?

First tell me what it is you know.
MajorScammer wrote:
So being a MajorScammer -

OK, I'm a sucker fool sometimes so I'll bite. Why the name?
MajorScammer wrote:
Maybe looking for people that want to talk with someone of equal value
Do you think anyone here is or has Equal value?

There is no equality. There is no equal performance. Some perform at a higher level. Some don't perform at all. Why should they be equal?
MajorScammer wrote:
This means open mine to possibilities

Sure, speculation is fine as long as it is stated as such and not as "what we know".
MajorScammer wrote:
If there is no such beings on this forum
Then there is no important reason to remain if you get my drift.

I do not get your drift. Your clarity rather sucks.


Computer science made this page possible, whether you do not believe in science or not.- Swan
Edited on 18-01-2023 04:38
18-01-2023 16:41
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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Maybe it's just me, but I think that "equality" would be rather boring.

Plus, how can one strive for "diversity is our strength!" across the world yet simultaneously strive for "equality" across the world? Doesn't implementing "equality" within a system inherently REMOVE "diversity" from that same system? Is this yet another paradox within the Democrat Party platform?


Edit ---

Example: In the not so distant past, Timmy had a gold ring (which he could afford because he owned/operated a silver ring manufacturing business), while Tommy had a silver ring (which he could afford because of the abundance of silver rings due to Timmy's manufacturing business). Here, Timmy and Tommy had two different types of rings. Here, there was "diversity".

Let's say that the SDTC stepped in and, in their best impression of "DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH, DAMNIT!!!!", taxed the piss out of Timmy and his business because Tommy wasn't as "monetarily fortunate" as Timmy was, thus We must "Robin Hood" "The Rich" in the name of "equality".

Nowadays, Timmy has a bronze ring because the SDTC taxed him and his business to death. Tommy also has a bronze ring because silver rings are now much too expensive because the SDTC's excessive taxation on "The Rich" put Timmy's silver ring manufacturing business out of business which severely reduced the supply of silver rings. Here, Timmy and Tommy both have the same type of ring. Here, there is "equality".

Notice what happened to the "diversity" after "equality" was implemented? Also notice what happened to the rings after "equality" was implemented?
Edited on 18-01-2023 17:30
18-01-2023 17:52
GasGuzzler
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Equality is a grass roots movement grounded diversity. I don't know how you don't know this stuff. Capitalism is destroying equality.

I'm all for equality if you have more money than me. What's wrong with being an entitled little bitch?
18-01-2023 19:28
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Equality is a grass roots movement grounded diversity. I don't know how you don't know this stuff. Capitalism is destroying equality.

Socialism will fix that!

GasGuzzler wrote:
I'm all for equality if you have more money than me. What's wrong with being an entitled little bitch?

Nothing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with sowing nothing and then stealing what someone else has sown.

All heil Karl Marx!
18-01-2023 19:30
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
MajorScammer wrote:not to teach: that is for the people that can not do
I know plenty of teachers that preform work and service at a high level of excellence.

In your haste you got this backwards. MajorScammer was pointing out that teaching is the only option for those who cannot do, not that those who can do are somehow prohibited from being teachers.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Our universities are magnets for losers who cannot. There, they accumulate until they squelch those who can.
18-01-2023 19:37
GasGuzzler
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IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
MajorScammer wrote:not to teach: that is for the people that can not do
I know plenty of teachers that preform work and service at a high level of excellence.

In your haste you got this backwards. MajorScammer was pointing out that teaching is the only option for those who cannot do, not that those who can do are somehow prohibited from being teachers.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Our universities are magnets for losers who cannot. There, they accumulate until they squelch those who can.


I do believe you are correct. I took it as all teachers teach, because none can "do".

I immediately think of Into the Night. He teaches some college courses but his life is also filled with meaningful work.

Thanks for the catch. @MajorScammer,
If you are still hanging around, I do apologize for the error.


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18-01-2023 22:48
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:I do believe you are correct. I took it as all teachers teach, because none can "do".

Because your errors are so rare and subtle, if I don't point them out, it is likely that the world would miss them entirely and you would be difficult to distinguish from me.

GasGuzzler wrote:I immediately think of Into the Night. He teaches some college courses but his life is also filled with meaningful work.

This is another potential pitfall for errors. Don't limit Into the Night's qualifier as a "teacher" to his credential as a university professor. He would be a teacher even if he were not associated with any university, just as you are a teacher every time you impart your knowledge and wisdom to others.

The point here is that we regrettably refer to university professors as "teachers" whether or not they impart any knowledge, and if they simply manage to remain alive and breathing while indoctrinating a classroom full of tuition-payers, we regrettably refer to that as teaching.

Nonetheless, this is the technical loophole that enables a Marxist loser to earn the credential "teacher". Being a teacher or being a lawyer are the only options available that allow one to be "successful" without being any good.
19-01-2023 02:35
GasGuzzler
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IBdaMann wrote:
Because your errors are so rare and subtle, if I don't point them out, it is likely that the world would miss them entirely and you would be difficult to distinguish from me.

I would call bullshit on you for this statement...however, this is PRECISELY what happened on YAP. I was accused of being your second "sock" account. Funny stuff and a badge of honor for me!
On a side note, I just checked in over there and I remain under a lifetime ban.

IBdaMann wrote:
Don't limit Into the Night's qualifier as a "teacher" to his credential as a university professor. He would be a teacher even if he were not associated with any university, just as you are a teacher every time you impart your knowledge and wisdom to others.

The point here is that we regrettably refer to university professors as "teachers" whether or not they impart any knowledge, and if they simply manage to remain alive and breathing while indoctrinating a classroom full of tuition-payers, we regrettably refer to that as teaching.

Nonetheless, this is the technical loophole that enables a Marxist loser to earn the credential "teacher".

I hear you and get what you are saying. I have a couple questions for you.

1) Is one still a teacher even if the information he teaches is incorrect? I would say yes.
2) How does one (say a GasGuzzler for a random example) call Into the Night a teacher without conflating him with a Swan? (another totally random example) We have learned so much from and about Swan and he has taught us so much!

I guess this brings us full circle on the question of equality .

IBdaMann wrote:
Being a teacher or being a lawyer are the only options available that allow one to be "successful" without being any good.

I must take issue with you on this statement. Your glaring omission of meteorologist is rather concerning.

We both know you just need to show a peek of cleavage and point out the Norwegian Jet Stream and you're good to go.


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Edited on 19-01-2023 03:01
19-01-2023 15:39
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:I would call bullshit on you for this statement...however, this is PRECISELY what happened on YAP. I was accused of being your second "sock" account. Funny stuff and a badge of honor for me!
On a side note, I just checked in over there and I remain under a lifetime ban.

This example does not apply. You did not make any mistakes. Victor made the mistake. Diane makes nothing but mistakes. Your badge of honor speaks for itself.

GasGuzzler wrote:1) Is one still a teacher even if the information he teaches is incorrect? I would say yes.

Nope. He is not a teacher. Someone who lies to you is not a teacher who is somehow teaching you. You have to be learning something in order to be being taught something. You can certainly learn something from a liar, but that falls under the category of "self teaching" (observation + logic)

GasGuzzler wrote:2) How does one (say a GasGuzzler for a random example) call Into the Night a teacher without conflating him with a Swan? (another totally random example)

You refer to Into the Night as a teacher and to Swan as a fallacy connoisseur. The answer lies in refusing to allow the word "teacher" to be hijacked into an empty buzzword like "climate scientist."

GasGuzzler wrote:I must take issue with you on this statement. Your glaring omission of meteorologist is rather concerning. We both know you just need to show a peek of cleavage and point out the Norwegian Jet Stream and you're good to go.

Like I said, you have to be GOOD to actually become a successful meteorologist.

Those meteorologists who can't show cleavage are obviously not any good, and if the meteorologist is a grown adult who is nonetheless not pointing to the Norwegian Jet Stream then there really isn't much that anyone can do.
19-01-2023 23:20
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Equality is a grass roots movement grounded diversity. I don't know how you don't know this stuff.

Paradox. Which is it, dude?
GasGuzzler wrote:
Capitalism is destroying equality.

Anyone can play the game of capitalism. That's equality.
GasGuzzler wrote:
I'm all for equality if you have more money than me. What's wrong with being an entitled little bitch?

Being an entitled little bitch does not require money and is not associated with money. Non-sequitur fallacy.


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19-01-2023 23:22
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
MajorScammer wrote:not to teach: that is for the people that can not do
I know plenty of teachers that preform work and service at a high level of excellence.

In your haste you got this backwards. MajorScammer was pointing out that teaching is the only option for those who cannot do, not that those who can do are somehow prohibited from being teachers.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Our universities are magnets for losers who cannot. There, they accumulate until they squelch those who can.


Incompetent teachers really can't squelch those that can do. Those that can do will do it. No teacher can stop that.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
20-01-2023 06:01
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
MajorScammer wrote:not to teach: that is for the people that can not do
I know plenty of teachers that preform work and service at a high level of excellence.

In your haste you got this backwards. MajorScammer was pointing out that teaching is the only option for those who cannot do, not that those who can do are somehow prohibited from being teachers.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Our universities are magnets for losers who cannot. There, they accumulate until they squelch those who can.


Incompetent teachers really can't squelch those that can do. Those that can do will do it. No teacher can stop that.

Absolutely. I meant in the universities. "Those who cannot" accumulate in ever greater numbers and create hostile environments for those expressing that dreadful independent thought and critical reasoning. "Those who cannot" feel threatened into seeking a safe space. Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity" and tuition payers face indoctrination as all that is offered.
20-01-2023 16:25
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"

It's "almost as if" the communists in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.
20-01-2023 19:32
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"

It's "almost as if" the communists in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

... and as yet another example of this sort of thing, I open up an email and at the bottom of it, under the company name, I came across this rather interesting language:

"An Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer"

Is this not a paradox?

[1] opportunity is equal for all applicants/employees.
[2] opportunity is higher or lower for particular applicants/employees.

Which is it?
20-01-2023 19:53
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"
It's "almost as if" the [Marxists] in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

The opiate of the masses, the purpose of the centralization of the means of all communication in the hands of the government, i.e. disinformation dissemination.

Centralized propaganda and disinformation programs never occur by random chance.
20-01-2023 20:07
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"
It's "almost as if" the [Marxists] in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

The opiate of the masses, the purpose of the centralization of the means of all communication in the hands of the government, i.e. disinformation dissemination.

Centralized propaganda and disinformation programs never occur by random chance.


Says the idiot who over and over claims that the Earth has no climate.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The only person who takes you seriously is Corky




According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
20-01-2023 20:20
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"

It's "almost as if" the communists in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

... and as yet another example of this sort of thing, I open up an email and at the bottom of it, under the company name, I came across this rather interesting language:

"An Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer"

Is this not a paradox?

[1] opportunity is equal for all applicants/employees.
[2] opportunity is higher or lower for particular applicants/employees.

Which is it?

This is a subtle fallacy that our society teaches us is totally legitimate, i.e. conflating the words "equal" and "fair." This fallacy has been so legitimized that it is simply assumed to be a tautology (the opposite of a fallacy, i.e. something that is necessarily TRUE) and anyone pointing out that the two different words have different meanings that cannot be used interchangeably is somehow required to support his claim.

If you and I are about to play a game of chess, and I believe that I am a much better player than you are, I might suggest that I play a few pieces short (i.e. not equal) in order to make it fair. Whenever a "victim" group demands that things be made "fair", they are demanding some inequality in their favor. Whenever a "victim" group demands "equality", they are demanding that they receive an equal, yet disproportionately unfair quantity/amount of something.

The dishonesty prevails when the two words are used as though they are equivalent, i.e. "We demand equality or else it's not fair!" or "We demand fair wages; we should be paid what the other guys are paid."

Affirmative Action is the word "fair."

Equal Opportunity is the word "equal/equivalent."

In any rational discussion, you would have to declare what you seek, i.e. fairness or equality. Which one is it?

Anything purporting to be both at the same time, e.g. Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity, is flagrantly conflating the two while avoiding any specification of objective.

NOW (National Organization of Women) anyone?
NAACP anyone?
UnidosUS (formerly La Raza) anyone?
Urban League anyone?
20-01-2023 20:24
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"
It's "almost as if" the [Marxists] in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

The opiate of the masses, the purpose of the centralization of the means of all communication in the hands of the government, i.e. disinformation dissemination.

Centralized propaganda and disinformation programs never occur by random chance.

...
40a.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
20-01-2023 20:36
SwanProfile picture★★★★★
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Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"
It's "almost as if" the [Marxists] in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

The opiate of the masses, the purpose of the centralization of the means of all communication in the hands of the government, i.e. disinformation dissemination.

Centralized propaganda and disinformation programs never occur by random chance.

...
40a.


Have you always been a repetitive chanter?


According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
21-01-2023 22:44
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Uniformity of thought is then called "diversity"
It's "almost as if" the [Marxists] in positions of power purposely make up deceptive labels of this sort in order to manipulate the intellectually lazy masses.

The opiate of the masses, the purpose of the centralization of the means of all communication in the hands of the government, i.e. disinformation dissemination.

Centralized propaganda and disinformation programs never occur by random chance.

...
40a.

...
17.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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