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When it comes to M2C2, is planet Earth really worth saving?


When it comes to M2C2, is planet Earth really worth saving?11-10-2015 01:45
trafnProfile picture★★★☆☆
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With all the time I've spent wondering about the possible terminal consequences of M2C2 (man-mad climate change), I can't help but ask myself, "If M2C2 were to pose a serious threat to the existence of all life on this planet, should we bother to stop it?"

Now as silly a question as this may seem at first glance, on further thought, one must recognize that all beings survive on this planet by killing other living things. If you stop eat something that is, or was, recently alive, after a few days or weeks, you too will die. Is that really the kind of planetary paradigm that's worth saving?

Of course, most people will brush this thought aside, claiming how wonderful life is here with the arts and sciences, and all our great accomplishments. But I think if you take a hard look at "everything," you'll soon realize that in the overall balance, there's a lot more suffering going on here than pleasure, a lot more unhappiness than joy, and a lot more failure than success.

One of my favorite lines which sums up our situation is, "It takes a lot of poor people to make a rich person," and given how many rich people there are in the world today, there must be far more poor people. Tell me then, what is it that we're really trying to save here anyways, and is it really worth saving?


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21-10-2015 01:59
trafnProfile picture★★★☆☆
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@no one in particular - case in point (how sad):

http://news.yahoo.com/body-9-week-old-allegedly-220800537.html

The problem with people is people (a trafnism)


The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards

1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator!
2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking!
3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers!
4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen!
21-10-2015 02:51
Totototo
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Where's the fun in living in a happy, perfect world?

By the way, I don't know the answer to this, but survival and the continuation of your own species is a natural instinct we share with every other living being. Life is just like that I think.
21-10-2015 03:16
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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trafn wrote:Tell me then, what is it that we're really trying to save here anyways, and is it really worth saving?

It's not a matter of saving anything.

It's the pursuit of winning the trophy for being the last man standing. The prize is you get to claim all the toys.


I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit

A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
21-10-2015 06:20
trafnProfile picture★★★☆☆
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@IBdasMarxistischeMensch* -


good one - morbidity and humor - who knew?

* - I've temporarily adjusted your moniker to honor it being National Socialist Science Month in Germany.


The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards

1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator!
2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking!
3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers!
4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen!

Edited on 21-10-2015 06:28
22-10-2015 03:25
trafnProfile picture★★★☆☆
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@climate scientist, Ceist and Tototo only - given M2C2 is not occurring in isolation from all other events occurring in the world, could we be saving the world for something worse by preventing M2C2, or are there ways to make an M2C2 free world a better world for everyone?


The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards

1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator!
2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking!
3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers!
4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen!




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