So what if the Chinese fossil fuel industry pays me to spread lies about greenhouse gas?08-11-2019 23:26 | |
Tai Hai Chen★★★★☆ (1085) |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BYFbXJKJ8U |
09-11-2019 00:12 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
Tai Hai Chen wrote: You need to remember that GasGuzzler and HarveyH55 have proven through extensive testing and experimentation that eating beans and pulling fingers causes GHGs to occur. https://youtu.be/lo_6f5__ebY |
09-11-2019 05:25 | |
HarveyH55![]() (5023) |
Aren't all gasses, GHGs, to some extent? Climate Change is only concerned with the ones that can be taxed and controlled, screwing up everyone's lives. |
09-11-2019 16:50 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
HarveyH55 wrote: No Monatomic and Diatomic molecules do not act as greenhouse gasses. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
09-11-2019 20:09 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
HarveyH55 wrote: No. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth using infrared emitted from Earth's surface. To do that such a magick substance would have to create energy out of nothing. It would be a perpetual motion machine of the 1st order. Air is normally heated by the surface due to contact with the surface (conductive heating). It can also be heated by the surface using radiant heating. The surface is cooled by heating the air in both cases. All air also radiates according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law. It's 'surface' is everywhere, since it's a gas. Warmer air radiates more. The Church of Global Warming targets CO2 because they want to attack industry, and capitalism with it. Remember, the Church of Global Warming stems from the Church of Green, which in turn stems from the Church of Karl Marx. It's all about trying to scare people into socialism. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 09-11-2019 20:13 |
09-11-2019 20:14 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse' gas. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth using IR emitted from Earth's surface. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
09-11-2019 20:35 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: And you are not the boss of me if I want to call gas molecules that have a net change in the distribution of their electrical charges when they vibrate a greenhouse gas then I will continue to do so (and so will everyone else who is informed and sane), who made you word boss? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
09-11-2019 20:44 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
spot wrote: And you are not the boss of me if I want to call gas molecules that have a net change in the distribution of their electrical charges when they vibrate a greenhouse gas then I will continue to do so Spot! Man is it so totally awesome to have you return and grace us with your posting presence! You tell 'em, tiger. And don't let them tell you that you can't call a greenhouse an electrical charge that has a net change in its distribution of gas molecules. You are all over this total semantic situation! . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
09-11-2019 20:52 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote: And you are not the boss of me if I want to call gas molecules that have a net change in the distribution of their electrical charges when they vibrate a greenhouse gas then I will continue to do so Its not semantics look it up. Hint; just because you don't understand something does not make it a trick. Are you in the same extinction rebellion cell as ITN BTW? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
09-11-2019 21:07 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
spot wrote:Its not semantics look it up. Hint; just because you don't understand something does not make it a trick. Spot! You totally rock. I bet your mother has an easy time keeping you entertained at your birthday parties. She can just hire a carnival magician to tie CO2 baloons into little climates that increase in temperature under the heat lamp and tell you and your little friends that you can save the climate by avoiding CO2 ... and then hand out CO2-free climate baloons. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
09-11-2019 21:27 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote:Its not semantics look it up. Hint; just because you don't understand something does not make it a trick. Are you trying to be clever and funny? Its not working. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
09-11-2019 22:07 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
spot wrote:Are you trying to be clever and funny? Its not working. Don't waste your time trying. You'll notice that with Marxism, your sense of humor is the first thing to go. The ability to think for yourself atrophied soon thereafter. But you'll always be a person. It's just that when the day comes that you pass away, no one will have any way to tell. Have you seen your brain-dead definition of "greenhouse gas"? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
09-11-2019 22:16 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote:Are you trying to be clever and funny? Its not working. I bet you pass before me I'm Gen X and your retired. And Groucho Marx was cracking jokes till the end. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
09-11-2019 23:18 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: Never said I was. I you want to make your case though, you are going to have to find a way to describe 'greenhouse effect' without violating the 1st or 2nd laws of thermodynamics or the Stefan-Boltzmann law. If you are going to talk about 'climate change', you should really try to define it first. spot wrote: Can't do it, eh? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
09-11-2019 23:21 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote:Are you trying to be clever and funny? Its not working. Irrelevant. Define 'climate change'. Define 'greenhouse effect' without violating the 1st or 2nd laws of thermodynamics or the Stefan-Boltzmann law. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
09-11-2019 23:26 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: Are you a real person or a bot? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
10-11-2019 06:18 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
spot wrote:I bet you pass before me I'm Gen X and your retired. Spot, I don't want to sound like the emperor but it is you who is mistaken about a great many things. Nonetheless, I hope your life is long and fruitful. If you can outlast me then more power to you. You would be advised to not thwart your efforts in that regard by killing humanity in the name of saving it from the evil Global Warming. spot wrote: And Groucho Marx was cracking jokes till the end. So was the Joker. I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
10-11-2019 10:26 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote:I bet you pass before me I'm Gen X and your retired. Is the Joker dead? He keeps coming back to life. I'm mistaken about you bering old? What job do you have that let's you patrol the internet asking everyone "what is climate?" and "the earth's temperature cannot be measured. All day every day? IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
10-11-2019 20:15 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
IBDM and ITN, Is it true that you are both Boltzman brains that formed in a way that had several inaccurate beliefs? |
10-11-2019 22:29 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:Into the Night wrote:spot wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: You just failed the Turing test. YALIF. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
10-11-2019 22:33 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:IBdaMann wrote:spot wrote:I bet you pass before me I'm Gen X and your retired. 'Climate' has a definition. It is a subjective word describing types of prevalent weather, such as 'desert climate', 'tropical climate', 'marine climate', etc. It has not quantifiable value and is not made of up any quantifiable values. So it can't change. There is no quantify to change. There is no such thing as a 'global' climate. Define 'climate change'. spot wrote: No. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't have enough thermometers. This is where you start denying mathematics again. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 10-11-2019 22:34 |
10-11-2019 22:35 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: YALIFNAP The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
10-11-2019 22:54 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
What is YALIFNAP? |
10-11-2019 23:00 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
keepit wrote: I think he made that one up to sound down with the kids. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
10-11-2019 23:05 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
IBDM, Air is not a blackbody because it does not absorb all frequencies of radiation. You can look it up on Wikipedia. |
10-11-2019 23:08 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
Spot, I like to deal with them on my own terms. Some of their communication is just a rabbit hole. |
11-11-2019 01:00 | |
spot★★★★☆ (1323) |
keepit wrote: The rabbits in allice and wonder land are not as mad as that pair. IBdaMann wrote: "Air" is not a body in and of itself. Ergo it is not a blackbody. Planck's law describes the spectral density of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a black body in thermal equilibrium at a given temperature T. |
11-11-2019 03:45 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
spot, I don't understand them at all. Every theory i have doesn't quite hold water. |
11-11-2019 03:45 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: Question already answered...again. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:46 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:keepit wrote: Nah. To talk down to YOU. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:48 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. You can't use that source with either me, gfm, or IBdaMann. All masses emit blackbody radiance. Even air. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:48 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: Inversion fallacy. RDCF. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:49 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
spot wrote:keepit wrote: YALIFNAP The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:49 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: RDCF. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 03:53 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
ITN, I don't have a clue what these acronyms are but i am curious. |
11-11-2019 18:42 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
keepit wrote: Repittitious Question Already Answered (RQAA). The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-11-2019 19:48 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
OK, got it. |
11-11-2019 23:12 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
spot wrote:Is the Joker dead? Who can really say? spot wrote: I'm mistaken about you bering old? Do you have children? spot wrote: What job do you have that let's you patrol the internet asking everyone "what is climate?" A very good one, that pays very well. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
11-11-2019 23:15 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14115) |
keepit wrote: IBDM and ITN, What are your thoughts on the "Boltzmann Brain" though experiment? Are there any underlying problems? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
12-11-2019 00:16 | |
keepit★★★★★ (2873) |
IBDM, I haven't heard of a problem. I'm afraid my thoughts on the subject aren't very smart. From what i know, the theory is that it is more likely that some sort of a brain would form spontaneously without the need for a universe, than the likelihood of a universe occurring and then that universe evolving a brain or brains. |
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