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Independent and open technology gives us a real chance to reach global climate targets


Independent and open technology gives us a real chance to reach global climate targets18-10-2020 14:23
Tobias Augspurger
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Hey together,

we are a small group of engineers who are convinced that by developing open and independent technology, a free and professional development environment for renewable energy can be created. Through global knowledge transfer we are able to develop the technology sufficiently fast and make it available globally.

As climate change is a globally emerging challenge, protontypes is starting the unique attempt to map all open sustainable technology in one list. Surprisingly, we have not found anything similar. In our mission to accelerate open sustainable technology, we recognise that it is difficult to get an overview of open technology in sustainable areas such as renewable energy. That's why we started this list to gather all awesome sustainable technology.

Please distribute this list and add the projects you think are missing:

https://github.com/protontypes/awesome-sustainable-technology

More information in our blog post:

https://protontypes.eu/blog/2020/10/05/gathering-open-sustainable-technology/
18-10-2020 22:12
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Wow! That's quite a list of resources. Little short on time right now to explore. I just took a quick look, saw a few things I'll need to look at later. I don't buy into the climate crisis, but there is a lot of useful stuff on the list, for making best use of energy available, and reducing consumption. We are going to have a long, bumpy road, as people keep pushing renewable energy. We've build everything based on using fossil fuels, primarily. Not one renewable, comes even close to fossil fuels, in energy, or convenience. It'll take a lot of changes, specially in people's usage habits. There is going to be a lot of shortage, and sacrifice. Routine blackouts in California already, and they really haven't done a whole lot to replace fossil fuel use.

I do expect to see blackouts, higher energy costs to the consumer, taxes, and financial difficulties. Mostly, I look for things to ease the pain a little, while the socialists play.
19-10-2020 01:55
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Wow! That's quite a list of resources. Little short on time right now to explore. I just took a quick look, saw a few things I'll need to look at later. I don't buy into the climate crisis, but there is a lot of useful stuff on the list, for making best use of energy available, and reducing consumption. We are going to have a long, bumpy road, as people keep pushing renewable energy. We've build everything based on using fossil fuels, primarily. Not one renewable, comes even close to fossil fuels, in energy, or convenience. It'll take a lot of changes, specially in people's usage habits. There is going to be a lot of shortage, and sacrifice. Routine blackouts in California already, and they really haven't done a whole lot to replace fossil fuel use.

I do expect to see blackouts, higher energy costs to the consumer, taxes, and financial difficulties. Mostly, I look for things to ease the pain a little, while the socialists play.


It's simpler than that. The open market will decide what energy sources will be used. If you like natural gas, buy natural gas. If you like oil product, buy oil products. If you like wind generators, buy wind generators.

The electric companies do the same thing as you do. They buy the energy sources they figure is going to produce the electricity you need for the cheapest price.

Low cost fuels ARE low cost because there is plenty of it. If there ever is a shortage of it, the price will rise and the market will simply move to something else.

Any government that comes around to dictate markets is the very definition of fascism.


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19-10-2020 02:29
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Unfortunately, there is the 'socialist' tax... I don't really expect too many to get on-board with it, since our electric, and fuel bills are already kind of high. But, the carbon-tax crap, is intended to steer people away from cheap energy, and use to paying more, for less reliable sources, to save the planet, feed the homeless, and bailout California, again...

Unfortunately, the democrats, really like socialism. This pandemic crap has weakened a lot of countries, though most should bounce back, if they can hold out for another year or two.
19-10-2020 09:32
Tobias Augspurger
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> I don't buy into the climate crisis

You should look into one of the many climate models and datasets in the list. I'm an aerospace engineer and can tell you: When airplanes can fly climate change is coming. Both depend heavily on laws of physics and especially on the low of Thermodynamics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics

So if you don't believe in climate change please stop using airplanes. They could just fall from the sky.

> Not one renewable, comes even close to fossil fuels, in energy, or convenience.
Germany has today 58% of is electric energy generated based on renewable energy. I can tell you from my own experiences that the energy supply here in Germany works perfect.

https://www.rechargenews.com/transition/germany-s-renewable-power-share-surges-to-56-amid-covid-19-impact/2-1-837212

> Unfortunately, the democrats, really like socialism. This pandemic crap has weakened a lot of countries, though most should bounce back, if they can hold out for another year or two.

You a trapped into an information bubble. Try to read different kind of sources worldwide.

> But, the carbon-tax crap, is intended to steer people away from cheap energy, and use to paying more, for less reliable sources, to save the planet, feed the homeless, and bailout California, again...

Renewable energy is very cheap since you don't have to fight over resources. When you include all the cost of war for oil it is the most expansive energy resource worldwide.
19-10-2020 10:46
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Actually, oil isn't any more expensive than natural gas. Oil gets a lot of cost added on, which renewable will take on eventually. Renewable are being promoted, so they will be kept as cheap as possible, even artificially so. Gas at the pump, get's taxed, for stuff like road maintenance, air quality, and a few other things. Of course the profit markup... Demand drives the price, and energy demand isn't going away, or being reduced.

The main point though, is petroleum is easy to store and transport, in small, or large quantities. Natural gas, is good for a lot of things, but best for fixed, stationary use.
19-10-2020 23:19
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Unfortunately, there is the 'socialist' tax... I don't really expect too many to get on-board with it, since our electric, and fuel bills are already kind of high. But, the carbon-tax crap, is intended to steer people away from cheap energy, and use to paying more, for less reliable sources, to save the planet, feed the homeless, and bailout California, again...

Unfortunately, the democrats, really like socialism. This pandemic crap has weakened a lot of countries, though most should bounce back, if they can hold out for another year or two.


Again, what you are describing is fascism. It is the attempted control of markets by government. The 'socialist tax', as you describe it, is fascism.

Vote Democrats out of office. They seek nothing less than to destroy the Constitution of the United States and replace it with fascism by oligarchy.


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nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
19-10-2020 23:34
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Tobias Augspurger wrote:
You should look into one of the many climate models and datasets in the list. I'm an aerospace engineer and can tell you: When airplanes can fly climate change is coming.

Define 'climate change'. A climate is a subjective description of conditions in a region, such as a desert climate. There is no value associated with 'climate'. What is changing? I don't believe you are an aerospace engineer.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
Both depend heavily on laws of physics and especially on the low of Thermodynamics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics

The Church of Global Warming denies 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. They also deny physics. They deny science and mathematics. Wikipedia is not a valid reference. False authority fallacy.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
So if you don't believe in climate change please stop using airplanes. They could just fall from the sky.

Aircraft do not need a meaningless buzzword to fly. Define 'climate change'.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
Germany has today 58% of is electric energy generated based on renewable energy.

Oil, natural gas, wind, solar, hydroelectric are all renewable sources of energy.
Wind and solar are piddle power. Hydroelectric power is not available in all locations.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
I can tell you from my own experiences that the energy supply here in Germany works perfect.

Is that why Germany is importing so much oil and natural gas from Russia? Is that why it's so expensive?
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
Renewable energy is very cheap since you don't have to fight over resources.

No one has to fight over coal, oil, natural gas, hydroelectric, wind, solar, nuclear fuel, or any other energy source. Coal, oil, and natural gas are all cheap. Very cheap.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
When you include all the cost of war for oil

Define 'cost of war for oil'. Buzzword fallacy.
Tobias Augspurger wrote:
it is the most expansive energy resource worldwide.

Yes. Oil is used everywhere. It's a worldwide market for it. It is cheap, it is a powerful form of energy, it is flexible in that it can be used for both fixed and mobile power plants, and it's byproducts produce useful materials like plastics and asphalt.

Burning it produces useful components like water and carbon dioxide, both beneficial for plants.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan




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