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Farming in Iowa, US13-07-2021 01:33
James___
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It seems that drought is hurting Iowa. Possibly the driest June in 129 years. The High Plains and west of the Rockies is hurting as well. It won't be surprising to see food prices rise as a result.

And Reuters writer Karl Plume reported this week that, "A harsh drought grew more severe across major parts of the U.S. farm belt this week, threatening recently planted corn, soybean and spring wheat crops in Iowa, Minnesota and the Dakotas, meteorologists and climatologists said on Thursday.

"Rains forecast for the northern Midwest and Great Plains this weekend and next week will bring relief to some areas. But the severe moisture deficits suggest crop yields in key U.S. production areas remain at risk."

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2021/06/drought-expands-in-iowa-stressing-crops-as-soybean-and-corn-prices-tumble/

Edited on 13-07-2021 01:37
13-07-2021 02:05
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Solar and wind farms don't need rain to produce... Couple weeks of summer weather, isn't going to hurt anything. American crops rot in the fields, because imported food is some how cheaper. Many American farms are being bought up for green-energy, condos, and stripper malls.
13-07-2021 02:32
duncan61
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Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun
13-07-2021 17:17
James___
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duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun



I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.


What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.
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13-07-2021 17:48
James___
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If anyone notices, the only fast moving winds in the upper atmosphere are to the northeast of the US. Just have to wonder if the many aquifers being depleted west of the Mississippi River might be one example of man made climate change.
And be mindful you guys, depleted aquifers has nothing to do with atmospheric gasses unless you consider the population that it's feeding in one way or another.
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13-07-2021 18:35
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James___ wrote:If anyone notices, the only fast moving winds in the upper atmosphere are to the northeast of the US.

At least we know exactly what you mean by "fast moving." Other people wouldn't be so definitive.

James___ wrote: Just have to wonder if the many aquifers being depleted west of the Mississippi River might be one example of man made climate change.

Since there aren't many aquifers being depleted west of the Mississippi, you feel obligated to wonder if there is a possibility that FALSE is an example of the totally undefined.

Ummm, no.

Let me know if you need help with anything else.

13-07-2021 18:37
James___
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With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge
13-07-2021 18:37
James___
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With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge
13-07-2021 19:43
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duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun


Stripper malls, are basic strop malls, except most of the business, lack morals, ethics, and only 'legal', in that they mostly comply with local laws, but usual side-businesses, that customers don't talk about. There's the happy ending massage parlor, a pool hall, pawn shop, payday loan/check cashing, bail bonds, scrap gold buyer... There are few others, but I don't remember them all. Hardly ever go there.
13-07-2021 20:01
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James___ wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun



I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.


What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.


You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.
13-07-2021 20:19
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun



I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.


What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.


You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.



I sent an email to an editor at an Iowa newspaper. Ground water depletion can cause water to migrate from forests and federal land to the area where ground water is being depleted. This created tinder for fires.
Ask a farmer, the top soil can't support crop growth if there's not enough moisture in it. And as ground dries out, it reflects a longer length IR wavelength which stays in the atmosphere longer.
If you looked at the satellite image, it clearly shows that moisture in the atmosphere is either moving up or down the west coast when it approaches the shoreline. Heat can do that.
Farming in Illinois is good because moisture above the Gulf of Mexico is circulating over parts of the Midwest. This follows thermodynamics because Canada has cooler air which helps to create a heat flow from the western US through the Great Lakes. This at the moment seems to have replaced the jet stream which moves moisture from the Pacific Ocean inland towards the Midwest.
As for mountain ranges, I've lived in California and Washington state. Some of the mountain chains along the West Coast are a part of the Ring of Fire that circles the Pacific Ocean. Moisture in the atmosphere is not making it to those mountain ranges. Otherwise there would be more water in the reservoirs.
See how simple science is?
14-07-2021 02:39
duncan61
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James___ wrote:
With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge

I worked at a dairy farm and once a month the big truck came and took away the cows that failed to get pregnant.They know and all group up in the corner and are very reluctant to get up the ramp but a team prods them and of they go to the ab to be turned in to grain feed beef.No one comes back from the big truck.James you realy should stop reading bullshit newspapers.Trimming and restocking the herd is an on going business.Rotating the bulls and moving stock.Eventualy the bulls have to go as there own breeders are bought in to the herd.In spring we could have up to 300 milkers and in winter down to 160.35% of the farm income comes from selling beef for some reason Adult friesans
cows taste real good and as they have been fed twice a day on grain for years can be sold as grain fed beef


duncan61
Edited on 14-07-2021 02:40
14-07-2021 02:52
James___
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@Duncan, your post basically supported me. I can't say I support such practices but they do happen. How do you oppose accepted practices? No one will say we can do better.
16-07-2021 00:00
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I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/
Edited on 16-07-2021 00:01
16-07-2021 02:41
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James___ wrote:
It seems that drought is hurting Iowa. Possibly the driest June in 129 years. The High Plains and west of the Rockies is hurting as well. It won't be surprising to see food prices rise as a result.

And Reuters writer Karl Plume reported this week that, "A harsh drought grew more severe across major parts of the U.S. farm belt this week, threatening recently planted corn, soybean and spring wheat crops in Iowa, Minnesota and the Dakotas, meteorologists and climatologists said on Thursday.

"Rains forecast for the northern Midwest and Great Plains this weekend and next week will bring relief to some areas. But the severe moisture deficits suggest crop yields in key U.S. production areas remain at risk."

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2021/06/drought-expands-in-iowa-stressing-crops-as-soybean-and-corn-prices-tumble/

It would be an absolute disaster if food prices go up. Especially in this situation where the COVID pandemic hasn't been fully solved.
16-07-2021 02:49
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James___ wrote:
@Duncan, your post basically supported me. I can't say I support such practices but they do happen. How do you oppose accepted practices? No one will say we can do better.

We farm cows for milk.If they dont calve they do not make milk.If they dont make milk we eat them and get a cow that makes milk.There are no pets on a farm.


duncan61
16-07-2021 02:55
James___
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duncan61 wrote:
James___ wrote:
@Duncan, your post basically supported me. I can't say I support such practices but they do happen. How do you oppose accepted practices? No one will say we can do better.

We farm cows for milk.If they dont calve they do not make milk.If they dont make milk we eat them and get a cow that makes milk.There are no pets on a farm.



You are so right. She's hanging out with her "buds". And to save on dog food, her dog will catch rabbits. He likes his Lucky Charms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkamkGD_KI

p.s., one of her raccoons will "protect" her from her cat. Might be in the video if she's by the porch.
Edited on 16-07-2021 02:57
16-07-2021 21:00
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun



I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.


What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.


You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.

He also seemed to completely ignore the jet stream over Canada right now, which is normal in the summer.


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16-07-2021 21:02
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun



I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.


What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.


You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.



I sent an email to an editor at an Iowa newspaper. Ground water depletion can cause water to migrate from forests and federal land to the area where ground water is being depleted. This created tinder for fires.
Ask a farmer, the top soil can't support crop growth if there's not enough moisture in it. And as ground dries out, it reflects a longer length IR wavelength which stays in the atmosphere longer.
If you looked at the satellite image, it clearly shows that moisture in the atmosphere is either moving up or down the west coast when it approaches the shoreline. Heat can do that.
Farming in Illinois is good because moisture above the Gulf of Mexico is circulating over parts of the Midwest. This follows thermodynamics because Canada has cooler air which helps to create a heat flow from the western US through the Great Lakes. This at the moment seems to have replaced the jet stream which moves moisture from the Pacific Ocean inland towards the Midwest.
As for mountain ranges, I've lived in California and Washington state. Some of the mountain chains along the West Coast are a part of the Ring of Fire that circles the Pacific Ocean. Moisture in the atmosphere is not making it to those mountain ranges. Otherwise there would be more water in the reservoirs.
See how simple science is?

What science? No science here...move along...move along...

We currently have a lot of fog, reaching all the way to the Cascades. That's moisture, dude.


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16-07-2021 21:03
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
James___ wrote:
With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge

I worked at a dairy farm and once a month the big truck came and took away the cows that failed to get pregnant.They know and all group up in the corner and are very reluctant to get up the ramp but a team prods them and of they go to the ab to be turned in to grain feed beef.No one comes back from the big truck.James you realy should stop reading bullshit newspapers.Trimming and restocking the herd is an on going business.Rotating the bulls and moving stock.Eventualy the bulls have to go as there own breeders are bought in to the herd.In spring we could have up to 300 milkers and in winter down to 160.35% of the farm income comes from selling beef for some reason Adult friesans
cows taste real good and as they have been fed twice a day on grain for years can be sold as grain fed beef

Yup. Dairy farms sell off some of the herd that is less productive all the time. It's not to save money, it's to make money.


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16-07-2021 21:04
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James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.


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16-07-2021 22:54
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.



Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.
And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.
16-07-2021 23:19
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.



Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.
And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

We've gotten by quite a long time now without knowing what it is, right?
16-07-2021 23:45
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.



Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.
And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

We've gotten by quite a long time now without knowing what it is, right?



Some people say the same thing about Jesus.
16-07-2021 23:50
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.



Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.


And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.


The Pacific ocean extends north of Hudson Bay.


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17-07-2021 01:06
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.



Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.


And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.


The Pacific ocean extends north of Hudson Bay.



Where it borders the Gulf of Alaska, it is further north than the most southern part of Hudson Bay. Yet you did not define extend. So technically speaking, your statement is without substance and has no meaning.
17-07-2021 03:02
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/


The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.


Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.

And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.


The Pacific ocean extends north of Hudson Bay.


Where it borders the Gulf of Alaska, it is further north than the most southern part of Hudson Bay. Yet you did not define extend. So technically speaking, your statement is without substance and has no meaning.

Allow me to mention that there is only one ocean on planet earth and that it extends as far north as is possible, even considering the Van Allen belt and all the atmospheric formaldehyde with which the Norwegian Jet Stream must contend.




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:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-07-2021 03:32
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I don't understand the hype. It's just the normal, shifting weather patterns. While some places on the planet are having a heat wave/drought, there is torrential rain in others (Europe). You don't get to pick your favorites. You just deal with what ever serves up for the day. Just to rub it in... Florida has been pleasant, low 90s. Haven't needed to run the AC much. Mostly, just because I have it...

It's really surprising people still have troubles getting through droughts. Most afflicted areas, have had the same problem, they had for centuries. Fresh water falls from the sky, usually in larger than needed quantities, and just runs off. Why aren't the people living in these areas collecting and storing fresh water, when it falls plentifully? They know that it's going to likely be needed later on. Guess it's more profitable to be a victim these days, and the government will pay for losses.
17-07-2021 05:27
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IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55



This explains a lot. Any chance you have running water or electricity? Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?
17-07-2021 06:24
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James___ wrote:This explains a lot.

This assumes that you can understand something.

James___ wrote: Any chance you have running water or electricity?

If I did, I'd have to go catch it.

James___ wrote:Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?

What makes you think there are shacks in Montana?

17-07-2021 22:36
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James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55



This explains a lot. Any chance you have running water or electricity? Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?


You have no children, do to your service related disability... Not to mention we are about the same age. (got your DOB off that X-ray you posted, to show your botched hysterectomy).
18-07-2021 01:04
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55



This explains a lot. Any chance you have running water or electricity? Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?


You have no children, do to your service related disability... Not to mention we are about the same age. (got your DOB off that X-ray you posted, to show your botched hysterectomy).


Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen.

p.s., at the end of the day Harvey, you are a typical American. You remind me of my mother. The main reason I don't have a family is because my parents wanted me to be a preacher. And with Christians, it seems that they don't find doing things as interesting as I do. Why I have different projects that I'm pursuing.
And if things work out for me, it will show how important having good hearing is.
And since you have good hearing, you're not motivated because you have nothing to overcome but yourself just like gfm.

Edited on 18-07-2021 01:55
23-07-2021 16:59
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Another heat dome is predicted across the West and Midwest USA. It seems that the jet stream is following where there is more ozone in the upper atmosphere. A couple of people with the newspaper in Des Moines is aware of what I think. And who knows, they might find it interesting enough to do a story on it since this does affect agricultural production. This link shows ozone diminishing both in Northern Canada and in the US.
And with the jet stream, it is following the path of "most ozone". This might be because the ozone layer will be warmer while the troposphere will be cooler as a result of the total ozone column. I also mentioned that I think that hydrocarbons and ODSs are a bigger issue with our environment than what has been said.
https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/NH.html
23-07-2021 18:37
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
Another heat dome is predicted across the West and Midwest USA. It seems that the jet stream is following where there is more ozone in the upper atmosphere. A couple of people with the newspaper in Des Moines is aware of what I think. And who knows, they might find it interesting enough to do a story on it since this does affect agricultural production. This link shows ozone diminishing both in Northern Canada and in the US.
And with the jet stream, it is following the path of "most ozone". This might be because the ozone layer will be warmer while the troposphere will be cooler as a result of the total ozone column. I also mentioned that I think that hydrocarbons and ODSs are a bigger issue with our environment than what has been said.
https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/NH.html


More random blatherings.

Ozone normally diminishes in the winter. Less sun, you see.
Define 'The Issue'.


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