Farming in Iowa, US

And Reuters writer Karl Plume reported this week that, "A harsh drought grew more severe across major parts of the U.S. farm belt this week, threatening recently planted corn, soybean and spring wheat crops in Iowa, Minnesota and the Dakotas, meteorologists and climatologists said on Thursday.

"Rains forecast for the northern Midwest and Great Plains this weekend and next week will bring relief to some areas. But the severe moisture deficits suggest crop yields in key U.S. production areas remain at risk."

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2021/06/drought-expands-in-iowa-stressing-crops-as-soybean-and-corn-prices-tumble/

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

James___ wrote:If anyone notices, the only fast moving winds in the upper atmosphere are to the northeast of the US.

James___ wrote: Just have to wonder if the many aquifers being depleted west of the Mississippi River might be one example of man made climate change.

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

James___ wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.

What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.

What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.

You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.

James___ wrote:
With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge

James___ wrote:
It seems that drought is hurting Iowa. Possibly the driest June in 129 years. The High Plains and west of the Rockies is hurting as well. It won't be surprising to see food prices rise as a result.

And Reuters writer Karl Plume reported this week that, "A harsh drought grew more severe across major parts of the U.S. farm belt this week, threatening recently planted corn, soybean and spring wheat crops in Iowa, Minnesota and the Dakotas, meteorologists and climatologists said on Thursday.

"Rains forecast for the northern Midwest and Great Plains this weekend and next week will bring relief to some areas. But the severe moisture deficits suggest crop yields in key U.S. production areas remain at risk."

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2021/06/drought-expands-in-iowa-stressing-crops-as-soybean-and-corn-prices-tumble/

James___ wrote:
@Duncan, your post basically supported me. I can't say I support such practices but they do happen. How do you oppose accepted practices? No one will say we can do better.

duncan61 wrote:

James___ wrote:
@Duncan, your post basically supported me. I can't say I support such practices but they do happen. How do you oppose accepted practices? No one will say we can do better.

We farm cows for milk.If they dont calve they do not make milk.If they dont make milk we eat them and get a cow that makes milk.There are no pets on a farm.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.

What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.

You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Whats a stripper mall.Sounds like fun

I think what goes on by the "stripper mall" across the street is what he's talking about.

What's odd is if the jet stream over the US seems to be missing. This could help to explain why so little rainfall in the upper Midwest. Just no strong upper atmosphere wind currents to move moisture from the Pacific Ocean.
I saw one image where it looked like moisture over the ocean stopped at the west coast. Look at the HD satellite https://zoom.earth/
Where it says ZOOM EARTH on the left, it's a pull down menu if you click on it. And if you click on fires and heat, is the heat from those fires causing the weather pattern over North America to change?
If so then that might be where depleting the aquifers in California is having wide spread consequences. And this might be an example of man made climate change caused by mismanagement of natural resources.

You do realize that there are several mountain ranges, running almost the entire west coast. Three different ranges in Oregon. Air coming off the Pacific, is heavy with water, and tends to dump a lot of it, to get past the mountains. I grew up on the wet side of the mountain. Eastern Oregon is dry, desert-like climate.

The east coast, just had a catastrophic hurricane pass through. Might be some of those high winds you're babbling about. Bastard-Biden could be bother to come down here and look at the flooding, the uprooted trees, sniff some hair, write Florida a generous disaster relief check. Bet California gets another huge check for the wildfire. And it's the same fire they had 8 months ago. Probably didn't even try and put it out.

I sent an email to an editor at an Iowa newspaper. Ground water depletion can cause water to migrate from forests and federal land to the area where ground water is being depleted. This created tinder for fires.
Ask a farmer, the top soil can't support crop growth if there's not enough moisture in it. And as ground dries out, it reflects a longer length IR wavelength which stays in the atmosphere longer.
If you looked at the satellite image, it clearly shows that moisture in the atmosphere is either moving up or down the west coast when it approaches the shoreline. Heat can do that.
Farming in Illinois is good because moisture above the Gulf of Mexico is circulating over parts of the Midwest. This follows thermodynamics because Canada has cooler air which helps to create a heat flow from the western US through the Great Lakes. This at the moment seems to have replaced the jet stream which moves moisture from the Pacific Ocean inland towards the Midwest.
As for mountain ranges, I've lived in California and Washington state. Some of the mountain chains along the West Coast are a part of the Ring of Fire that circles the Pacific Ocean. Moisture in the atmosphere is not making it to those mountain ranges. Otherwise there would be more water in the reservoirs.
See how simple science is?

duncan61 wrote:

James___ wrote:
With this from Bloomberg;

One weekend in early June, the Kennedy, New York, farmer and his wife loaded 46 milking cows into livestock trailers and sent them off to an auction house. Some went to other dairies. Others ended up at slaughterhouses, to be turned into ground beef. They were so expensive to feed and so unprofitable that he wasn't even sad to see them go.

Vanstrom's predicament is an increasingly common one. The corn and soybeans that dairy cows eat are seeing a historic rally, fueled by drought in key producing countries and China's massive purchases of grain to feed a rapidly expanding hog herd. From the U.S. to Ethiopia, farmers say soaring costs are putting their businesses in peril, to the point that they're thinking of exiting altogether.

"For a lot of cows, they'll just have a career change, from happy cow to happy meal," said Mary Ledman, global dairy strategist at Rabobank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/sky-high-feed-prices-are-pushing-dairy-farmers-over-the-edge

I worked at a dairy farm and once a month the big truck came and took away the cows that failed to get pregnant.They know and all group up in the corner and are very reluctant to get up the ramp but a team prods them and of they go to the ab to be turned in to grain feed beef.No one comes back from the big truck.James you realy should stop reading bullshit newspapers.Trimming and restocking the herd is an on going business.Rotating the bulls and moving stock.Eventualy the bulls have to go as there own breeders are bought in to the herd.In spring we could have up to 300 milkers and in winter down to 160.35% of the farm income comes from selling beef for some reason Adult friesans
cows taste real good and as they have been fed twice a day on grain for years can be sold as grain fed beef

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.
And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.
And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

We've gotten by quite a long time now without knowing what it is, right?

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.


And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.


And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

The Pacific ocean extends north of Hudson Bay.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:
I did send a link to an editor of an Iowa newspaper that's to an interactive jet stream map. It shows the jet stream is closer to the Arctic Ocean than it is to Hudson Bay. Just have to wonder if the northern Pacific Ocean being warmer than usual is responsible for this. Remember the "heat waves" a month or 2 ago? And now this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/07/14/western-heat-wave-rockies/

The temperature of the northern Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Yahtzee!!!! And we have a winner. We need to know it's temperature. Where is the heat coming from? About the only thing that can push the jet stream north of Hudson Bay is a lot of heat rising from the Pacific.

And when you add in all of the fires in the West, we get what we got.

The Pacific ocean extends north of Hudson Bay.

Where it borders the Gulf of Alaska, it is further north than the most southern part of Hudson Bay. Yet you did not define extend. So technically speaking, your statement is without substance and has no meaning.

IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55

James___ wrote:This explains a lot.

James___ wrote: Any chance you have running water or electricity?

James___ wrote:Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55

This explains a lot. Any chance you have running water or electricity? Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Allow me to mention that I only have one son and his name is Harvey55

This explains a lot. Any chance you have running water or electricity? Maybe you guys live in a shack in Montana?

You have no children, do to your service related disability... Not to mention we are about the same age. (got your DOB off that X-ray you posted, to show your botched hysterectomy).

James___ wrote:
Another heat dome is predicted across the West and Midwest USA. It seems that the jet stream is following where there is more ozone in the upper atmosphere. A couple of people with the newspaper in Des Moines is aware of what I think. And who knows, they might find it interesting enough to do a story on it since this does affect agricultural production. This link shows ozone diminishing both in Northern Canada and in the US.
And with the jet stream, it is following the path of "most ozone". This might be because the ozone layer will be warmer while the troposphere will be cooler as a result of the total ozone column. I also mentioned that I think that hydrocarbons and ODSs are a bigger issue with our environment than what has been said.
https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/NH.html