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10-06-2021 11:55
Xadoman
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Xadoman wrote:


10-06-2021 17:29
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Let's talk about Safemoon for a moment, shall we?

Xadoman wrote:Safemoon is also audited by CERTIK. It is clean as a whistle.


You used the word "clean." Hmmmm.

You used the words "clean as a whistle" and not "secure as a fortress."

Clearly you are under the mistaken impression that a legion of accountants and financial experts have checked the Safemoon books and found the organization to be deserving of the Better Business seal of approval.

Clearly you are not aware that CERTIK only sent in a legion of white hat ethical hackers to verify the security of their trading platform and nothing more.

It was a technical audit, not a financial audit.

You used the word "clean" when you should have used the word "secure." Somebody is riding high on insidious disinformation. You were given a "hot tip" to hurry and get into Safemoon, and you totally ignored the 59th rule of acquisition: "Free advice is seldom cheap."

Get yourself a shirt for future reference.




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12-06-2021 00:52
Xadoman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHtlcu1zJR4&ab_channel=SafeMoonMark

"I'm ready to take on anyone." - Safemoon Mark, 2021

Are you ready for him, IbdaMann?
12-06-2021 05:53
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Xadoman wrote:"I'm ready to take on anyone." - Safemoon Mark, 2021

Are you ready for him, IbdaMann?

Xadoman, are you ready to play "Simon Says"?




Simon is a professional blockchain, cryptocurrency and tech journalist, regular contributor to Cryptonews.com, who is writing in depth analysis about the latest developments in the cryptocurrency and blockchain space. He's written for Wired, the Daily Dot, and TechCrunch, and aside from cryptocurrency and the blockchain he's interested in AI, VR, social media, and how technology changes society. He's based in London.

Simon Says:

1. SafeMoon doesn't have any utility
It may be several months old now, but still no one really knows what it is supposed to do. Safemoon describe the coin on its website as a "DeFi token," but this doesn't tell us much. Its 'whitepaper' is also laughably thin, describing only the coin's internal economics and nothing else.

It therefore seems that SafeMoon has designed its coin only to rise in price, and to have no wider use. This is fine for as long as it does rise in price. But if it falls, and if other altcoins offer better gains, it may collapse in a hurry.

2. SafeMoon penalises you for selling
While SAFEMOON is designed to rise in price, it charges holders for cashing out. If you sell your SAFEMOON, the SafeMoon protocol takes 10%. Half of this 10% goes to existing token holders holders. The contract also uses a quarter of the fee to 'sell into BNB,' according to the brief whitepaper. Basically, the owners of the contract use your sold SAFEMOON to buy Binance coin (BNB). They then pair the remaining quarter with the newly acquired BNB, adding both as a liquidity pair on PancakeSwap.

Safemoon intends this 10% fee to deter selling and to help SAFEMOON rise in price. But it's not clear what exactly happens to the 5% which goes towards BNB. Do the contract owners — i.e. Safemoon — keep all the proceeds from adding liquidity to PancakeSwap? If so, they're arguably profiting at the expense of SAFEMOON traders.

3. The protocol has a 'critically severe' issue related to safeguarding fees
DeFi security firm HashEx recently published an audit into the SafeMoon smart contract. It makes for some grim reading. Most notably, HashEx discovered two issues of "critical severity."

The first relates to a lack of "safeguards for fees," with the contract controlling fees (paid during SAFEMOON sales) being owned by an external account. According to HashEx, this means that if the owner of the smart contract were a bad actor, they could easily drain it of its accumulated fees. In other words, the fees you pay for selling SAFEMOON will end up lining someone else's pockets.

4. It has another critical issue related to ownership of its smart contract
HashEx identified another issue of critical severity. It found that the ownership of the SafeMoon smart contract can be temporarily renounced. This can create confusion among users, who may incorrectly think the contract has no owner. Ultimately, HashEx says it identifies "this behavior as fraudulent."

5. SafeMoon's contracts have a ton of other issues
In total, HashEx identified 12 issues affecting SafeMoon's smart contracts. Two of these are of critical severity, as described above. Another two are of high severity, with four being of medium and another four being of low severity. What's worse is that many of these issues can be exploited at the same time, greatly increasing the risk for investors that something will go badly wrong with SafeMoon. Here's what HashEx concluded in its report:
At the time of the audit, the owner of the token contract is set to an EOA account (externally owned account), which implies high risks for token holders as if the owner account is compromised an attacker can break the token functionality completely (for example, by blocking any transfer).

6. It runs on the Binance Smart Chain, which has had its own issues
SAFEMOON is a BEP-20 token, meaning it runs on Binance Smart Chain. In itself, there's nothing really wrong with this. However, BSC has suffered a number of issues recently across several of its platforms.

7. SafeMoon has very low liquidity
SafeMoon has extremely low liquidity. It's such a small market that, if a big holder sells, its price is likely to fall steeply. For example, its price crashed by more than 80% in late April when a whale sold $8.5 million's worth of it.

Smaller holders will never be able to predict when a larger holder is going to sell. This arguably makes holding SAFEMOON tantamount to gambling.

8. SafeMoon is hard to buy and sell
SafeMoon isn't really listed anywhere. Right now, the only place you can really trade it is on PancakeSwap, a decentralized exchange on Binance Smart Chain. Traders therefore need to go through a relatively involved process to get their hands on it. They need to create a Binance account, buy Binance coin (BNB), swap BNB for SAFEMOON, download a wallet such as MetaMask, and also enable such a wallet to work with BSC.

With major exchanges such as Coinbase and Kraken steering clear of SAFEMOON, traders have to work quite hard to acquire the coin. But with few outlets to buy and sell it, it further worsens its problems with low liquidity.

9. SafeMoon's team appear reluctant to answer hard questions
Back in late April, some members of SafeMoon's team participated in an Ask Me Anything (AMA) at the Miami Crypto Experience. The thing is, they didn't really answer any relevant questions, instead choosing mostly to speak with guests about unrelated topics. This didn't create a good impression, and the coin promptly fell shortly after.

Such an appearance arguably fits in with the lack of detail on SafeMoon's website and in its so-called whitepaper. There seems to be an avoidance of accountability and transparency, something which could potentially ring alarm bells.

10. It is well below its all-time high
SafeMoon has fallen much further from its recent all-time high than major cryptos such as bitcoin, ethereum and Binance coin. It's now down by just over 61% from its ATH, according to CoinGecko. By contrast, bitcoin, ethereum and BNB are down 42%, 38% and 44% from their respective ATHs.


Xadoman ... are you pitching Safemoon only because of your conflict of interest?

12-06-2021 06:35
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Xadoman wrote:Safemoon is also audited by CERTIK. It is clean as a whistle.


Although CERTIK is a security audit, their findings offer big clues as to the intentions of Safemoon board:

CertiK says that over time, the owner address will accumulate a significant portion of the liquidity pool tokens. Since the owner is an externally owned account (EOA), CertiK says the entire project could face "big consequences."

CertiK notes that the owner address currently stands to accumulate a portion of the liquidity pool, this means that the owner address would be collecting a portion of the forfeit tokens. Although CertiK recommends restricting management permissions of the liquidity pool tokens, Safemoon directors have no intention of implementing any of CertiK's audit recommendations .

CertiK also strongly recommended SafeMoon adopt smart contract-based accounts with features like multi-signature wallets. These are wallets that require two or more keys to sign and send transactions. CertiK says that SafeMoon could introduce a DAO/governance/voting module to make the process more transparent and less risky. SafeMoon directors rejected this idea outright.

12-06-2021 07:45
duncan61
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My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago.There is no relationship between a roulette wheel in a casino and trading cryptocurrency.If someone wants to invest money in trading why not.Its their money if its not your thing dont do it.I trade on plus 500 and just look at how stocks have performed and if they are down but usually at a higher level.I will buy a small amount and close out once there is a profit.oil and silver a fairly reliable and I have done USD to GBP and made a quick $600 in the time I caught the train to getting off about 45 mins.I met a Canadian girl while working at a tourist place in Shark Bay and she had come to Australia and worked as production manager on home and away in Victoria in the 3 years she was there she renovated a small townhouse and sold it and ended up with $330K so she put the lot in to a trading platform and hit the road.When the bus she travelled in did a gearbox she pulled 7K out to pay for it simple as.Every morning between 9 and 11 she would do trading .One morning she cleared $1850 which was more than I was paid a month.We hung out for a few months and she was a very cool person to be around.She went inland and I went south to Overlander roadhouse and I never saw her again.She had 3 passports as well.One seriously organised chick
12-06-2021 08:13
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duncan61 wrote:My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago.

He gambled and he won. Good for him.

duncan61 wrote:There is no relationship between a roulette wheel in a casino and trading cryptocurrency.

... except that they are identical. The only difference is the odds.

duncan61 wrote:If someone wants to invest money in trading why not.

You mean to ask if someone wants to gamble with their own money, why not?

I give up, why not?

duncan61 wrote:Its their money if its not your thing dont do it

Well said.

duncan61 wrote:I trade on plus 500 and just look at how stocks have performed and if they are down but usually at a higher level.

What does owning a piece of a company have to do with gambling on cryptocurrency?

duncan61 wrote: I will buy a small amount and close out once there is a profit.oil and silver a fairly reliable and I have done USD to GBP and made a quick $600 in the time I caught the train to getting off about 45 mins.

You should probably learn the difference between investing and gambling first before continuing to confuse the two. You don't make much sense jumping back and forth between the two as if they are the same thing.

If you mean to say that you never lose anytime that you gamble then you should certainly gamble all of your money every day.

duncan61 wrote:I met a Canadian girl while working at a tourist place in Shark Bay ... Every morning between 9 and 11 she would do trading

She was a day trader. Most cease day trading after a while once they have a really bad day and lose everything. It just takes one really bad day.

duncan61 wrote:.One morning she cleared $1850

Let me guess. She never told you about the times that she lost money. Am I right?

duncan61 wrote:... I never saw her again.

... so you don't know if she eventually had her really bad day and lost everything.

12-06-2021 08:54
duncan61
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Its called contracts for difference or CFD and it is piggyacking on the stock market.You do not own the stocks.At our local casino my favorite game is casino wars where you place a bet and highest card wins.You can bet on getting the same card and it pays 30-1 if it is the same suit.I have done quite well and have a good night out and go home with a few hundred spare.That is gambling and depending on how many are playing at the table it can go fast.There is about 8-10 seats but when its busy other people can lean over and bet on your stack.Studying the direction Oil is going and doing CFD bears no resemblance to a card being drawn every few minutes
12-06-2021 08:59
duncan61
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I will agree that bitcoin is volatile.My son sold out in April when it was 80K and now it is 45K so there is a bit of gambling going on
12-06-2021 18:33
Xadoman
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https://www.safemoonmark.com/

He made a quick web page. He is a computer guy and very good in math. IbdaMann, you should check it out.
12-06-2021 19:06
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Investments are almost always about putting money into something tangible. Crypto, is only a token, a marker, that accounts for how many times you are entered, to play the game. You buy and sell tokens, nothing tangible. The value of your tokens, are worth only as much as someone else is willing to pay for them. Nobody wants to buy them, they are completely worthless. The use as actually currency is kind of sketchy, more of a marketing scheme. The transaction fees are pretty high, so not really going to be a thing, other than to show off, or for those with no other option. The price of tokens can be manipulated, to give the appearance that it's a good buy.
12-06-2021 20:14
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HarveyH55 wrote:Investments are almost always about putting money into something tangible.

Harvey, you are wise. The word "investment" has been totally bastardized and butchered by many people who mistakenly equate it with "savings" and with gambling but who want to sound "financial" and economically savvy.

An investment is the opposite of a divestiture. By definition, an investment is a purchase or an expense (i.e. you lose that amount of wealth/capital) for ownership of an (expected) income stream. This is not gambling nor is it simply converting some liquid assets into other liquid assets (i.e. savings). Purchasing stock (i.e. ownership of a company) because you expect the stock to provide an income stream is a bona fide investment whereas purchasing stock simply because you expect the stock price to increase is simply speculation and is gambling (i.e. not investing). Conversely, many people claim that they "invest" a certain amount of their paycheck each month into a money market fund ... but this is simply savings and is not an investment.

The most common bona fide investments are accomplished every day by businesses when they purchase equipment for the business. These purchases are made specifically with the expectation of developing/increasing the income produced by the business, not because of any expectation that the equipment will somehow increase in value (i.e. speculation).

HarveyH55 wrote: Crypto, is only a token, a marker, that accounts for how many times you are entered, to play the game.

Harvey, you are wise. I might have mentioned this.

A crypto token is identical to a casino chip ... and it enables the possessor to play in the game.

HarveyH55 wrote: The use as actually currency is kind of sketchy, more of a marketing scheme.

Correct. Imagine a "currency" that is strangely not intended to facilitate the purchase of goods and services but rather is intended to emulate speculative non-liquid goods. Do you see a bit of a counterproductive contradiction there? Do you detect a hint of a conflict of interest on the part of the owners of the "currency" ?

HarveyH55 wrote: The price of tokens can be manipulated, to give the appearance that it's a good buy.

Harvey, I should mention that you are wise. One of the things I learned about cryptocurrency is that any "whale" (major holder thereof) can directly and substantially shift the price in any desired direction in the short term simply through selling or buying a large share. A whale can make a large purchase at the current market value and all the tech-journalists will cover the "story" and will pretend that they are reporting a "hot tip." This causes all the mindless lemmings of the world who base their decisions on whatever the whales do to create a self-fulfilling prophecy of driving the price up and up ... at which point the whale sells his previously purchased tokens at the new higher price, realizing a substantial profit that he created by simply purchasing the tokens in the first place.

His resulting sale of tokens, which realizes a hefty profit, causes the tech-journalists to report the "imminent price drop" signalled by the whale's sale, causing many lemmings to dump what they have, driving the price down, down, down ... at which point the whale makes another large purchase at the new low market price.

... and the cycle simply repeats. Just follow the "news" about any cryptocurrency and notice how most of it is simply a reporting on what whales project will happen to the price and what the whales either buy or sell. Notice how Xadoman falls into the lemming category. All of his decisions are based on absolute faith in what the whales say ... or at least in what the tech-journalists claim that the whales say.

12-06-2021 20:39
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Xadoman wrote:
https://www.safemoonmark.com/

He made a quick web page. He is a computer guy and very good in math. IbdaMann, you should check it out.

This is a misinformation site. This guy might be good at math but he certainly sucks at economics and finance and investing.

Notice the coverage of "burned" tokens. Safemoon doesn't burn any tokens.

Notice the "ROI Gained Today." Safemoon as a currency has no ROI. One has to be totally financially inept to fall for this line.

Notice the "Roadmap" of good-sounding "nice-to-dos" instead of any Statement of Work which spells out what must be performed under contract. Since Safemoon directors are under absolutely no obligation to do any of these things we can presume that there is no intention to accomplish any of the big-ticket items.

Notice the "Weekly Giveaway" of 10,000,000 Safemoon! Yesssss! Notice that it amounts to a whopping ... ummm ... just under $37.

Notice that there is nothing on this website that instills any confidence in Safemoon beyond playing on the gullibility of lemmings with excellent gibber-babble.

... but thank you for pointing out this site to me. I don't need to see it anymore.

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13-06-2021 01:41
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IBdaMann wrote:


Xadoman wrote:
https://www.safemoonmark.com/

He made a quick web page. He is a computer guy and very good in math. IbdaMann, you should check it out.

This is a misinformation site. This guy might be good at math but he certainly sucks at economics and finance and investing.

Notice the coverage of "burned" tokens. Safemoon doesn't burn any tokens.

Notice the "ROI Gained Today." Safemoon as a currency has no ROI. One has to be totally financially inept to fall for this line.

Notice the "Roadmap" of good-sounding "nice-to-dos" instead of any Statement of Work which spells out what must be performed under contract. Since Safemoon directors are under absolutely no obligation to do any of these things we can presume that there is no intention to accomplish any of the big-ticket items.

Notice the "Weekly Giveaway" of 10,000,000 Safemoon! Yesssss! Notice that it amounts to a whopping ... ummm ... just under $37.

Notice that there is nothing on this website that instills any confidence in Safemoon beyond playing on the gullibility of lemmings with excellent gibber-babble.

... but thank you for pointing out this site to me. I don't need to see it anymore.

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In digital currency, a 'burned' coin is one that is lost and not available anymore (locked in someone's wallet and they forgot the password to it).

The coin still exists, but it is no longer in circulation and probably never will be.


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13-06-2021 02:31
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Into the Night wrote:In digital currency, a 'burned' coin is one that is lost and not available anymore (locked in someone's wallet and they forgot the password to it).

The coin still exists, but it is no longer in circulation and probably never will be.

Correct.

... and in Safemoon, no tokens are ever burned. Instead, they go into the Safemoon directors' wallet to which the directors have the key. The directors then convert those tokens to a different cryptocurrency that will still have value when Safemoon collapses.

If you read the extremely cheesy and overly skimpy joke of a Safemoon white paper, you'll notice that no legal/contractual information is provided, only lame marketing spin as to why everything about Safemoon needs to appear as a scam "for the investors' protection."

It's totally obvious that Safemoon directors are preying on the exceedingly gullible.

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13-06-2021 08:47
duncan61
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I have just had a discussion with my wife and I was wrong.Cryptocurrency is gambling.Buying silver or gold is not.
13-06-2021 18:56
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duncan61 wrote:
I have just had a discussion with my wife and I was wrong.Cryptocurrency is gambling.Buying silver or gold is not.


The price of precious metals are manipulated, often. But they will always retain value, as the metals have commercial uses. There will always be buyers, who will pay what they have to, to stay in production.

Nobody wants or needs your crypto tokens, other than to play the game. You'll hang on to them, until you need to cash in, which you are stuck with what someone is willing to pay for them. Should be obvious, that pretty much anyone can setup their own coin, and get people to play the game. We know that people are greedy, and willing to rig games, or figure ways to cheat.

Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well.
14-06-2021 05:25
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duncan61 wrote:
I have just had a discussion with my wife and I was wrong.Cryptocurrency is gambling.Buying silver or gold is not.


Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth.

Over time, however, both have been a good bet.


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Edited on 14-06-2021 05:26
14-06-2021 05:56
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Into the Night wrote:Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth.

Over time, however, both have been a good bet.

Specifically, precious metals is a hedge against market fears regarding currencies and liquid investments, which is why it is a good idea to include them in your portfolio.

If a currency or stocks or other financial instruments decrease in value for whatever reason, precious metals nudge upwards because of their inherent value, i.e. people start buying more of them because they are then seen as safer than the other financial instruments. If events transpire across an economy that cause a currency *and* the stock market *and* the bond market to drop, precious metals surge dramatically in response to people's fears.

Conversely, when all aspects of a free market are strong with a high velocity of money, precious metals will tend toward their lowest price as people have high confidence in the currency, the markets and the economy.


The above are factors affecting demand for precious metals. As you pointed out, the price realization of precious metals can be manipulated by controlling the supply.

14-06-2021 12:26
Xadoman
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Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well.


At least you have a free will to participate or not in this " scam" , unlike covid scam, where people are forced to testing, masking, hiding and jabbing. 13000 people are already dead after getting the jab and millions have complications.
Edited on 14-06-2021 12:28
14-06-2021 15:58
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Xadoman wrote:At least you have a free will to participate or not in this " scam" , unlike covid scam, where people are forced to testing, masking, hiding and jabbing. 13000 people are already dead after getting the jab and millions have complications.

Sadly, We the People had the free will to not participate in the scam but we sheepishly OBEYED our tyrannical government out of fear, the primary weapon of tyranny.

Yes, We the People had the option and the free will ... and We the People threw it away.

14-06-2021 17:33
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Xadoman wrote:
Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well.


At least you have a free will to participate or not in this " scam" , unlike covid scam, where people are forced to testing, masking, hiding and jabbing. 13000 people are already dead after getting the jab and millions have complications.


Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities? I've had a hunch that there were a lot more than the 26, I found a few weeks ago, and those were 'unconfirmed'. There were a bunch, dismissed as 'natural' causes, or do to pre-existing conditions. Sort of the opposite of what they seem to be doing with covid deaths. Pretty sure these are just American numbers, and possibly just the J&J vaccine. Google makes it really hard to find what you want, when it doesn't support the approved agenda.

I only mask a bare minimal. Don't believe the do anything useful. Mostly impede breathing. I only wear a mask, in respect for 'house' rules. Never been nose-raped (tested). As an essential worker, I never had to hide at home, or deal with a curfew. For such a deadly, fast spreading disease, surprised I haven't been infected... Will refuse vaccination, up to the point were I'll lose my job, which isn't likely to come up. Unfortunately, it does sort of look like some sort of federal mandate may be in the works. I don't think the vaccines are working as well as they hoped, and I'm not the only one refusing. Every new outbreak, is a new, more deadly variant, which the vaccines are surprisingly effective against. Mostly fear mongering and marketing. I think they'll try everything else, before having Lord Biden issue a proclamation for mandatory vaccinations. They know there will be protests, possibly violence.

Considering death rates from past vaccines, and the billions of doses given worldwide, there are too few. Even 13,000 seems a little light, for a worldwide number. I've had two co-workers in my department at work, that had violent reactions to their second doses. The first was a few weeks ago, called out for 4 days. He still looked bad his first day back, a little weak. Last week, a woman called out, and was still out, 3 days. I'm off this week, so have to wit to hear her story. These are healthy, physically active people in their 30's. We all do mostly physical work in a warehouse. People in poor health, getting a similar reaction, would probably be in the hospital. Sounded like the one guy should have went, but he was convince it would pass in a day, maybe two, like the paper said...
14-06-2021 22:33
Xadoman
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Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities?


14-06-2021 23:30
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IBdaMann wrote:

Into the Night wrote:Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth.

Over time, however, both have been a good bet.

Specifically, precious metals is a hedge against market fears regarding currencies and liquid investments, which is why it is a good idea to include them in your portfolio.

If a currency or stocks or other financial instruments decrease in value for whatever reason, precious metals nudge upwards because of their inherent value, i.e. people start buying more of them because they are then seen as safer than the other financial instruments. If events transpire across an economy that cause a currency *and* the stock market *and* the bond market to drop, precious metals surge dramatically in response to people's fears.

Conversely, when all aspects of a free market are strong with a high velocity of money, precious metals will tend toward their lowest price as people have high confidence in the currency, the markets and the economy.


The above are factors affecting demand for precious metals. As you pointed out, the price realization of precious metals can be manipulated by controlling the supply.



That sums it up pretty well.


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15-06-2021 01:14
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Xadoman wrote:
Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities?




I went to the EUdraVilgilance website, which appears to be a clone of the CDC reporting site, least in it's uselessness... Didn't find that screen, or anything close. So, I did a Google image search. Seems like somebody else had to go through, and add up all the government numbers for them. Guessing the euro government does the same deny and dismiss crap the CDC does.
15-06-2021 11:42
Xadoman
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Guessing the euro government does the same deny and dismiss crap the CDC does.


FDA- Fraud & Deception Administration
WHO - World Hoax Organization
CDC - Center's for Disease Creation

The covid19 virus has never been isolated. All they have is a nice looking computer generated picture of the virus. In real life the electron microscope pictures are black and white and the images they have been seeing from those pictures could be just natural waste product or some other part of the human cell. And they keep babbling the fairy tale about different strains - deltas, zigmas, ypzilons, double- triple mutants etc etc. Just ask from yourself - how do they distinguish between those different stains? Of course they can not. They can not even isolate the main strain. They have nothing but a fairy tale. As much as I understand this hoax is a convenient way to milk goverment money but I have a feeling that there could be something more in it . Something much much more evil than simply milking money out of the layman s pocket.

Harvey, take a look at that video:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235635735018171

Also worth reading:

https://mask-covid.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-Contagion-Myth-Notes-Synopsis-1.pdf

John Magufuli, president of Tanzania, may be the wisest world ruler alive today. A chemist by
training, Magufuli submitted samples to the World Health Organization (WHO) for Covid-19
testing. Said Magufuli, "We took samples from goats; we sent samples from sheeps; we took
samples from pawpaws; we sent samples from car oil; and we took samples from other
different things; and we took the samples to the laboratory without them knowing." His
officials named the sample of car oil Jabil Hamza, thirty years old, male. The results came
back negative. They named a sample of jackfruit Sarah Samuel, age forty-five, female. The
results came back inconclusive. Pawpaw got sent in as Elizabeth Ane, twenty-six years old,
female. The poor pawpaw came back positive. Samples from a bird called kware and from a
goat also tested positive; rabbit was indeterminate; sheep was negative.15 (Jessica Lee, "Did
Tanzania's President Expose Faulty COVID-19 Testing by Submitting Non-Human Samples?" Snopes, May 7, 2020,
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanzania-president-covid-tests/.) President Magufuli is not wasting any
government money on testing for his people, but in the West, governments have spent
millions for the PCR test kits.

Edited on 15-06-2021 12:23
15-06-2021 14:46
Xadoman
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Also worth watching about the virus scam:

https://bnt-cdn.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/06/ORQoumMPprMlPz5MEji3_02_363cc82374b4d14111cf5f757f5900f7_video_480p_converted.mp4
Edited on 15-06-2021 14:47
15-06-2021 15:00
Xadoman
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I just read from another forum:

The State of New Mexico has a lottery now of $5m to anyone with the vaccine.

When you need to bribe people to do something, the government has failed.

We also have the worst public schools in the nation and some of the highest poverty and unemployment.

But let's give tax dollars away to the sheep.


I noticed quite a similar thing in the whitepaper of the chadtoken, which I bought:

At a $250 million marketcap or larger held for at least 7 consecutive days, we'll award 1 "lambo"
At a $500 million marketcap or larger held for at least 7 consecutive days, we'll award 2 "lambos"
At a $1 billion marketcap or larger held for at least 7 consecutive days, we'll award 3 "lambos"
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