The truth about sea level rise

mywifesatan wrote:
the fact is 30% of the ipcc report is from NON peer reviewed literature.

The IPCC states:
The IPCC process assesses published literature; it does not involve carrying out research. For inclusion in the Second Order Draft (SOD) of a Working Group contribution, literature must be submitted for peer review prior to the finalization of the SOD. In order to be reflected in the AR5, literature must be accepted for publication before the final draft is finalized. Any reference that does not fulfill these criteria was removed from the draft contribution together with the statement(s) that it supports

mywifesatan wrote:
The ipcc report is only suitable to clean someones behind after a bm...

mywifesatan wrote:
Sea level rise has not been covered in a ethical way by anybody. Gmsl is very difficult to obtain but very easy to manipulate. the studies in general grossly overestimate seal level rise rate.

Wikipedia, speaking of Nils-Axel Morner, said:

Views on sea level change

Mörner disagrees with the view of future rise in sea level caused by global warming. Mörner's self-published 2007 20-page booklet The Greatest Lie Ever Told, refers to his belief that observational records of sea levels for the past 300 years that show variations - ups and downs, but no significant trend. This contrasts with the usual view that sea level rise has been occurring at 2–3 mm/yr over the last century. Mörner asserts that satellite altimetry data indicate a mean rise in the order of 1.0 mm/yr from 1986 to 1996, whereas most studies find a value around 3 mm/yr.

Mörner believes that sea level rise will not exceed 200 mm, within a range of either +100±100 mm or +50±150 mm based on satellite data over the last 40 years and observational records over the last 300 years. In 2004 the president of INQUA wrote that INQUA did not subscribe to Mörner's views on climate change.

In 2000 he launched an international sea level research project in the Maldives which claims to demonstrate an absence of signs of any on-going sea level rise. Despite President Gayoom speaking in the past about the impending dangers to his country, the Maldives, Mörner concluded that the people of the Maldives have in the past survived a higher sea level about 50–60 cm and there is evidence of a significant sea level fall in the last 30 years in that Indian Ocean area. However, these conclusions were disputed by due to lack of known mechanism for a fall in sea level and lack of supporting evidence.

In an interview in June, 2007, Mörner described research he had done in the Maldives that had been reported in the documentary Doomsday Called Off. Specifically, he mentioned a tree he had discovered growing close to the shoreline as evidence to support his claim that sea level had actually fallen rather than risen. He also alleged that the tree had been deliberately destroyed by a group of Australian researchers who were promoting the IPCC view that sea level was rising.

Mörner's claim that sea levels are not rising has been criticised for ignoring correctly calibrated satellite altimeter records, all of which show that sea levels are rising.

Views on dowsing

Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing. He was elected "Deceiver of the year" by Föreningen Vetenskap och Folkbildning in 1995 for "organizing university courses about dowsing...". In 1997 James Randi asked him to claim the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, making a controlled experiment to prove that dowsing works. Mörner declined the offer.

Involvement with Copernicus Publications

Main article: Pattern Recognition in Physics

In March 2013, open-access scientific publisher Copernicus Publications began publishing Pattern Recognition in Physics, of which Mörner was the co-editor-in-chief, along with Sid-Ali Ouadfeul. The journal was originally supposed to publish general physics-related research, but a study was nevertheless published in the journal in which the authors stated they "doubt the continued, even accelerated, warming as claimed by the IPCC project." Due to both this study and what he called the "nepotistic" appointment of other scientists to the editorial board by Morner and Ouadfeul, Copernicus' managing director Martin Rasmussen terminated the journal in January 2014. In March 2014 Ouadfeul reopened the journal under a different publisher.

References

http://nonuclear.se/waste2007morner

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0958493042000242936 "The Maldives project: a future free from sea‐level flooding" in Contemporary South Asia, 22 October 2010

"Årets förvillare 1995(vof.se)". Retrieved 2009-04-01. Till Årets förvillare 1995 utsågs docent Nils-Axel Mörner vid Stockholms universitet. Han har anordnat universitetskurser om slagrutor där studenterna pådyvlas sedan länge motbevisade myter i stället för att få stifta bekantskap med den moderna vetenskapliga kunskapen inom området. Han har därigenom sett till att man inte ens vid universitetet går fri från grova förvanskningar av vetenskaplig metodik.

Manne, Rolf (2007). "Klockan som slagruta" (3–7). Folkvett.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/7438683/rising-credulity.thtml

Cliff, Ollier (September 2007). "Review of 'The Greatest Lie Ever Told'". New Concepts in Globa Techtonics Newsletter (morner at pog.nu) 44: 55–7. Retrieved 2012-05-17.

"New Zealanders being misled by unfounded claims about sea level rises". Sci-tech Monday. Scoop Independent News. 6 August 2007.

"Sea Level Changes in the Past, Present and in the Near-Future Global Aspects Observations versus Models". IGCP Project No. 437 Puglia 2003 - Final Conference. February 10, 2005.

Mörner (February 9, 2005). "The expected sea level changes in the next century". Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution, Research Topics (RT) (5). Archived from the original on January 29, 2003.

Mörner, Nils-Axel (2004). "Estimating future sea level changes from past records". Global and Planetary Change 40 (1–2): 49–54. doi:10.1016/S0921-8181(03)00097-3.

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[[Maumoon Abdul Gayoom|Gayoom, Maumoon Abdul]] (2006-01-06). "Address by his Excellency Mr. Maumoon Abdul Gahoom, President of the Republic of Maldives, at the nineteenth special session of the United Nations General Assembly for the purpose of an overall review and appraisal of the implementation of agenda 21–24 June 1997".

Mörner, Nils-Axel; Tooley, Michael; Possnert, Göran (2004). "New perspectives for the future of the Maldives". Global and Planetary Change 40 (1–2): 177–82. doi:10.1016/S0921-8181(03)00108-5.

Mörner, N.-A.; Laborel J.; Tooley M.; Dawson S.; Allison W.; Islam M.S.; Laborel F.; Collina J.; Rufin C. (February 10, 2005). "Sea Level Changes: The Maldives Project Freed From Condemnation to become Flooded". IGCP Project No. 437 Puglia 2003 - Final Conference.

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xor8w_global-warming-doomsday-called-off_school

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http://www.astromeditions.com/library/Bookresp.asp?Book=R56

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Abraham3 wrote:
Go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise

Abraham3 wrote:
I guess it did.

PS, GreyViper. If you go to the Wikipedia article to which I linked, you will find a section at the bottom labeled REFERENCES. There you will find an extensive list of links that will take you to external sources, many of which are peer reviewed scientific publications. Those references sources fully support the claims, comments and observations of the Wikipedia article.

Your objection to Wikipedia does not hold up.

trafn wrote:
The complete melting of Greenland is expected to raise sea levels some 20 feet.

The complete melting of Antarctica is expected to raise sea levels some 200 feet.

I guess that means when the time comes, Atlanta, Georgia (USA), and Paris, France, will be prime ocean front.

Madison wrote:
New data coming in showing that sea level rise is accelerating. In 2015 we have seen about 1 cm of sea level rise. That is 3 times as much as the rate since the 1990's.

Earthling wrote: Coral atolls prove nothing,

Earthling wrote:
Not one of the over 1,200 islands in the Maldives has disappeared from view, not even the smallest one.

Earthling wrote:
There is no difference between coral atolls with military bases on them or coral atolls overbuilt with airports, hotels and private dwellings.

drm wrote: The warming oceans, as measured in many ways, may cause as much SLR in the short run as melting ice in Antarctica and Greenland.

drm wrote:
Remember that warming water expands. The warming oceans, as measured in many ways, may cause as much SLR in the short run as melting ice in Antarctica and Greenland. It could be some time before they melt enough to bypass thermal expansion as the larger cause of SLR. But the more they study the melting of Greenland, the fast it seems to be going. New mechanisms that speed up the melting are discovered. Still, in the short run, SLR will not be the most dramatic impact of AGW during most of our lives.

trafn wrote:
@IBdaMann

Wow! A picture of Midway Island BEFORE all the sea garbage piled up on it! Thanks for the blast from the past!

You're going to be very disappointed, because there will be no "dramatic impacts of AGW during" the lives of anyone currently living.

drm wrote:That's stated with great certainty. Are you sure?

drm wrote:Plenty of people currently living will live to the end of this century.

drm wrote:It's possible that it already has dramatically affected some people, but attribution at this point is still not highly certain. But the way attribution works is that it is backward looking.

drm wrote:A good example of that was how the agency tasked with identifying recessions didn't classify the 2008 crash until a couple of years later, when they could clearly look at the economic trends that resulted. Since climatic trends take a lot longer, ..............

Earthling wrote:

drm wrote:That's stated with great certainty. Are you sure?

Absolutely guaranteed.

Earthling wrote:I'm still waiting for the 50 million climate refugees promised by the UN for 2010.

drm wrote:That's why I follow the science instead of the UN.

drm wrote:

Earthling wrote:

drm wrote:That's stated with great certainty. Are you sure?

Absolutely guaranteed.

Then what's the point discussing it any further? You already know what is or isn't going to happen in 100 years.

Earthling wrote:I'm still waiting for the 50 million climate refugees promised by the UN for 2010.

That's why I follow the science instead of the UN.