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The Stench of the True Believers


The Stench of the True Believers11-07-2017 04:20
Wake
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We have presented papers that proved at the very least that the True Believers in the Church of Global Warming are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

It turns out that their 97% of climate scientists believe in man-made global warming is in fact an outright lie. Less that 50% as the best case and less than 3% as the probable case believe in this.

During the Obama years if you spoke out against AGW you lost your job. Period. Now fewer and fewer scientists are having problems criticizing the corruption that NASA and NOAA have visited upon science.

Let's start with one thing - NASA

https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/

"Ancient air bubbles trapped in ice enable us to step back in time and see what Earth's atmosphere, and climate, were like in the distant past. They tell us that levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years."

Well, I have argued that CO2 records in ice are highly questionable as any sort of record. That at the BEST they could only be relied upon as a super-long-term averaging.

So what other methods are there of discovering CO2 levels in the past? Another method IS known. Plants breath through stegmata which are pores in the leaf and stem of a plant. It turns out that the numbers of these pores is in inversely proportional to the levels of atmospheric CO2 in some types of plants.

A couple of studies were done. One in 1999 and another circa 2004. What did they find? That the records from these plants were wildly different from the ice cores as I suggested. That atmospheric levels of CO2 differed from 50% to 100% more than the ice cores suggested and contained large changes over short periods of time. That about the time of Christ that plant remains from the Pacific Northwest showed levels of CO2 of 400 ppm. Perhaps it was all of those automobile fumes from Moses leading the children of Israel out of Egypt.

A thousand years later it showed CO2 levels below the ice core research.

Another study showed 350 ppm about 10,000 years ago. Maybe all of homo sapiens were breathing really heavily in an attempt to populate the earth.

So NASA and NOAA are cherry picking numbers for their own purposes.

And what are those purposes?

From 2008 to 2015 Dr. Edenhofer was co-chair of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on "Mitigation of Climate Change." He is also deputy director and chief economist of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, one of the climate centers helping write climate policy for the EU, the UN, and the World Bank, and one of the most-cited sources on climate in the mainstream media. During an interview in 2010, Dr. Edenhofer candidly declared, "One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

And, he added this shocking admission: "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy."

What is the takeaway of this confession? It is nothing less than a shocking admission that man-made global warming is all about politics — Marxist, socialist, collectivist politics — masquerading under the false labels of science and environmental concern.

The UN's climate czarina, Christiana Figueres, has also been quite vocal in explaining that the UN's imposing climate change agenda extends far beyond mere environmental concerns:

"It must be understood that what is occurring here, not just in Doha, but in the whole climate change process is a complete transformation of the economic structure of the world."

And since Obama wanted to support this NOAA and NASA went entirely beyond their roles and duties and handed Obama a report to present to the IPCC proving that man-kind was dead unless these transformation were undertaken.

Tell me - do any of you believe that the rich intended to give away their own money? That they intended to live in poverty with the rest of the world in dark caves with short lifespans?

But this is what is behind the True Believers and why they stand at attention hands raised in the NAZI salute crying "SEIG HEIL".

And this is why the media backs them every inch of the way with the same zeal that the media in Germany had before the second world war. They TOO stand to gain in their eyes. And they intend to take their share.
11-07-2017 05:37
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.
Edited on 11-07-2017 05:42
11-07-2017 17:58
Wake
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.


Just out of curiosity exactly what do you think that reduced Arctic ice mass means? We have no records previous to circa 1600 so the ice might have been totally gone in the medieval warm period.

The recovery of the ice mass this winter is likely to be more rapid and larger than the recovery last year which was impressive.

And yet you are incapable of discussing anything. You have more fun talking to yourself than anything else in the world and only use this site in order to keep track of your conversations with yourself.
13-07-2017 02:16
litesong
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.

The recovery of the ice mass this winter is likely to be more rapid and larger than the recovery last year which was impressive.

For 3 years running, maximum Arctic sea ice extent has been below 14 million square kilometers, ~ 1.5+ million square kilometers less than the average of the 1980's. Of course, "wake-me-up" can't be impressed.... or even.... wake-up. But it can lie, which is part of its name.
Arctic sea ice VOLUME is going away:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

All this while the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years (including 3+ years in which solar TSI set a 100 year record low).
Edited on 13-07-2017 02:18
13-07-2017 18:19
Wake
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litesong wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.

The recovery of the ice mass this winter is likely to be more rapid and larger than the recovery last year which was impressive.

For 3 years running, maximum Arctic sea ice extent has been below 14 million square kilometers, ~ 1.5+ million square kilometers less than the average of the 1980's. Of course, "wake-me-up" can't be impressed.... or even.... wake-up. But it can lie, which is part of its name.
Arctic sea ice VOLUME is going away:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

All this while the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years (including 3+ years in which solar TSI set a 100 year record low).


MY GOD!!! FOR THREE YEARS RUNNING??? HOW AWFUL. What is that - a third of your lifetime?
14-07-2017 23:15
litesong
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.

The recovery of the ice mass this winter is likely to be more rapid and larger than the recovery last year which was impressive.

For 3 years running, maximum Arctic sea ice extent has been below 14 million square kilometers, ~ 1.5+ million square kilometers less than the average of the 1980's. Of course, "wake-me-up" can't be impressed.... or even.... wake-up. But it can lie, which is part of its name.
Arctic sea ice VOLUME is going away:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0
All this while the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years (including 3+ years in which solar TSI set a 100 year record low).

FOR THREE YEARS RUNNING???

Coupled with everything else I stated..... & much more. Its understandable "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" can't process more than one phrase at a time.
15-07-2017 00:47
Wake
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litesong wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: .... are lying about virtually everything from beginning to end.

Meanwhile:
May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0

About 390 (more?) straight months have passed, in which monthly Earth average temperature has been over the 20th century average... despite the solar TSI being languid for many decades AND low for 10+ years (including a 3+ year period in which TSI set a 100 year record low).
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" proves it is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.

The recovery of the ice mass this winter is likely to be more rapid and larger than the recovery last year which was impressive.

For 3 years running, maximum Arctic sea ice extent has been below 14 million square kilometers, ~ 1.5+ million square kilometers less than the average of the 1980's. Of course, "wake-me-up" can't be impressed.... or even.... wake-up. But it can lie, which is part of its name.
Arctic sea ice VOLUME is going away:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0
All this while the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years (including 3+ years in which solar TSI set a 100 year record low).

FOR THREE YEARS RUNNING???

Coupled with everything else I stated..... & much more. Its understandable "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" can't process more than one phrase at a time.


So you again quote yourself as an expert in what? Oh, yeah, since you don't have a single fact on your side you can only resort to insults. But one can't expect too much more from Indians. They aren't very educated. Those reservation schools leave you wondering what "the" means.
15-07-2017 10:00
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs:.....you don't have a single fact....

"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" rallies to get the last word.... which isn't the truth. "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" never minds that its posts part from truth..... its the only way all AGW denier liar whiners can perform..... erroneously.
At least, Larsen C iceberg parted from Antarctica(which AGW denier liar whiners have acknowledged), as many other oversized icebergs have undocked within a score+ of years.
Edited on 15-07-2017 10:01
15-07-2017 23:12
Wake
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs:.....you don't have a single fact....

"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" rallies to get the last word.... which isn't the truth. "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" never minds that its posts part from truth..... its the only way all AGW denier liar whiners can perform..... erroneously.
At least, Larsen C iceberg parted from Antarctica(which AGW denier liar whiners have acknowledged), as many other oversized icebergs have undocked within a score+ of years.


My GOD - whoever would have thought that ice sheets spawn ice bergs? No one would EVER have guessed that. Except maybe the people on the Titanic.
17-07-2017 03:32
StarMan
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The "Consensus Fraud"

To hear the Climate Change Sharia talk, you would think that science means "consensus."
The root word of science is "scientia," Latin for "truth."

Ptolemy's earth-centered universe was the scientific consensus for over 1,000 years.
How's that working out? And how did Copernicus fare when he tried to promote it?

Fast forward (or backward if you wish) to 1895 when President of the Royal Society, Lord Kelvin stated, "Heavier-than-air flight is impossible."

Eight years later, in Kitty Hawk, two uneducated bicycle mechanics flew.

"If we all worked on the assumption that what is thought to be true really is true, there would be little hope of advance." - Orville Wright

Then there is this very educational video by physics Nobel Laureate Ivar Giaver, who says the climate change sharia is an insane waste of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0&t=440s
17-07-2017 06:50
Wake
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StarMan wrote:
The "Consensus Fraud"

To hear the Climate Change Sharia talk, you would think that science means "consensus."
The root word of science is "scientia," Latin for "truth."

Ptolemy's earth-centered universe was the scientific consensus for over 1,000 years.
How's that working out? And how did Copernicus fare when he tried to promote it?

Fast forward (or backward if you wish) to 1895 when President of the Royal Society, Lord Kelvin stated, "Heavier-than-air flight is impossible."

Eight years later, in Kitty Hawk, two uneducated bicycle mechanics flew.

"If we all worked on the assumption that what is thought to be true really is true, there would be little hope of advance." - Orville Wright

Then there is this very educational video by physics Nobel Laureate Ivar Giaver, who says the climate change sharia is an insane waste of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0&t=440s


You couldn't believe that one single True Believer will listen to a single word raised against climate change do you? Look at the posters here? They will make ANY lie they will distort ANY science (that they can understand - meaning they know that milk comes from cows) to PROVE that climate change is real.

Hell, NOAA and NASA hasn't had the slightest problem lying about climate change. Defund them completely. And anyone suggest what good these departments have given the taxpayers of this country?
17-07-2017 07:33
StarMan
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Wake wrote:

You couldn't believe that one single True Believer will listen to a single word raised against climate change do you? Look at the posters here? They will make ANY lie they will distort ANY science (that they can understand - meaning they know that milk comes from cows) to PROVE that climate change is real.


You and I can only do so much. As my wife's grandfather used to say, "There was only one perfect man who ever lived and look what they did to Him. It is not our job to make people believe the truth. It is only our job to present it.

Look, Hillary is still walking free, when she belongs in prison.
17-07-2017 17:59
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StarMan wrote:
Wake wrote:

You couldn't believe that one single True Believer will listen to a single word raised against climate change do you? Look at the posters here? They will make ANY lie they will distort ANY science (that they can understand - meaning they know that milk comes from cows) to PROVE that climate change is real.


You and I can only do so much. As my wife's grandfather used to say, "There was only one perfect man who ever lived and look what they did to Him. It is not our job to make people believe the truth. It is only our job to present it.

Look, Hillary is still walking free, when she belongs in prison.


Unfortunately you are correct on both counts. The True Believers will also posit that Jesus never existed. It doesn't matter that he is in the written records of Greece, Rome and the Jews. While you could argue whether he was the son of God or not you sure as hell couldn't argue whether he existed but that is just what they do. Sounds an awful lot like our own AGW True Believers doesn't it?
17-07-2017 19:49
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StarMan wrote: Ptolemy's earth-centered universe was the scientific consensus for over 1,000 years...... And how did Copernicus fare when he tried to promote it?
Fast forward (or backward if you wish) to 1895 when President of the Royal Society, Lord Kelvin stated, "Heavier-than-air flight is impossible."
Eight years later, in Kitty Hawk, two uneducated bicycle mechanics flew.

Both Ptolemy AND Copernicus were wrong. Both their ideas didn't quite fit ALL the data..... altho their theories fit most of the observational data. Only the coming of Johannes Kepler finally brought the real truth, accounting for ALL the proper observational data. For decades(?) Kepler was in the same trap as all philosophers & thinkers of the past. His tenacity to science truth was unwavering, tho, as he abandoned some of his (& multiple societys') beliefs.
Lord Kelvin was right. Heavier-than-air" flight was impossible at the time he said it. But the Wright brothers scientifically developed an engine with greater "power to weight" ratio. Also, with use of their wind tunnel, they were able to develop a flyable, controllable airplane. It is too bad tho, that the Wright brothers continued with their "wing warping" control system, which was replaced with better control systems.
"Science" is replaced by "better science". Of course, AGW denier liar whiners only have "sigh-ants" & are quickly falling to the arrears & on their rears......rears through which they erroneously think.
17-07-2017 21:08
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litesong wrote:
StarMan wrote: Ptolemy's earth-centered universe was the scientific consensus for over 1,000 years...... And how did Copernicus fare when he tried to promote it?
Fast forward (or backward if you wish) to 1895 when President of the Royal Society, Lord Kelvin stated, "Heavier-than-air flight is impossible."
Eight years later, in Kitty Hawk, two uneducated bicycle mechanics flew.

Both Ptolemy AND Copernicus were wrong. Both their ideas didn't quite fit ALL the data..... altho their theories fit most of the observational data. Only the coming of Johannes Kepler finally brought the real truth, accounting for ALL the proper observational data. For decades(?) Kepler was in the same trap as all philosophers & thinkers of the past. His tenacity to science truth was unwavering, tho, as he abandoned some of his (& multiple societys') beliefs.
Lord Kelvin was right. Heavier-than-air" flight was impossible at the time he said it. But the Wright brothers scientifically developed an engine with greater "power to weight" ratio. Also, with use of their wind tunnel, they were able to develop a flyable, controllable airplane. It is too bad tho, that the Wright brothers continued with their "wing warping" control system, which was replaced with better control systems.

"Science" is replaced by "better science". Of course, AGW denier liar whiners only have "sigh-ants" & are quickly falling to the arrears & on their rears......rears through which they erroneously think.


Heavier than air flight occurred long before the Wright brothers. Kites are heavier than air flight. That technology is over 2000 years old. Effectively, Lord Kelvin's statement was wrong when he said it.

You are quite correct about the Wright brothers inventing a way to control free flight.

Fortunately, we remember Lord Kelvin's work in other areas.


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18-07-2017 17:20
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Heavier than air flight occurred long before the Wright brothers. Kites are heavier than air flight.

Kites are heavier than air, but they are not "free flight". You didn't mention, gliders & hot-air balloons, which are "free flight" vehicles.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" is just looking at exceptions, trying to get the last word.
Edited on 18-07-2017 17:24
18-07-2017 20:48
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Heavier than air flight occurred long before the Wright brothers. Kites are heavier than air flight.

Kites are heavier than air, but they are not "free flight". You didn't mention, gliders & hot-air balloons, which are "free flight" vehicles.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" is just looking at exceptions, trying to get the last word.


I already mentioned kites were not free flight.

I did not mention hot air balloons because they are not heavier than air flight.

I did not mention gliders because much of that technology came as a result of the Wright brothers being able to design a control system for free flight.


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20-07-2017 00:22
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Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Heavier than air flight occurred long before the Wright brothers. Kites are heavier than air flight.

Kites are heavier than air, but they are not "free flight". You didn't mention, gliders & hot-air balloons, which are "free flight" vehicles.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" is just looking at exceptions, trying to get the last word.


I already mentioned kites were not free flight.

I did not mention hot air balloons because they are not heavier than air flight.

I did not mention gliders because much of that technology came as a result of the Wright brothers being able to design a control system for free flight.


Well, you certainly have a tight grasp on hot air since this is a discussion group on global warming. Too bad that all the hot air seems to be spouting from you.
20-07-2017 00:41
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Heavier than air flight occurred long before the Wright brothers. Kites are heavier than air flight.

Kites are heavier than air, but they are not "free flight". You didn't mention, gliders & hot-air balloons, which are "free flight" vehicles.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" is just looking at exceptions, trying to get the last word.


I already mentioned kites were not free flight.

I did not mention hot air balloons because they are not heavier than air flight.

I did not mention gliders because much of that technology came as a result of the Wright brothers being able to design a control system for free flight.


Well, you certainly have a tight grasp on hot air since this is a discussion group on global warming. Too bad that all the hot air seems to be spouting from you.

Isn't 'global warming' about hot air???


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