26-09-2019 02:35 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:I don't believe you'll back that up. Give an example. VernerHornung wrote:I've gotta stop radiating toward those warm walls and radiate only toward the dry ice!" Rather smart snowman.According to IBD it's the photons themselves that get just crazy! It's an uncertainty principle you see (IBD knows cuz a guy on the streets told him about it, in the oral tradition of physics, no books allowed) but to quote the sage himself: IBdaMann wrote:2) what the photons actually do is governed more by uncertainty than by any science that predicts what will happen. Like I said before, photons can deflect, do back-flips, take selfies and interact in any way other than being absorbed.These are laws of Physics cuz they say so (and presumably the guy who told IBD about it also knows, again no books allowed). VernerHornung wrote:People have more ability to adapt than environmentalists assume, ...We ditched DDT to solve our bird woes, ..Yeah environmental F ups are not new. What people need to focus on in my opinion is that they suck. It's bad business. Oh and you'll love this, ITN is PRO DDT ha ha. Yep. Points for consistency ITN. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference& Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
26-09-2019 03:32 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21599) |
VernerHornung wrote:tmiddles wrote: No brains needed, not even that of a snowman! He may radiate towards the warm walls, but the walls won't absorb it. You can't heat a warmer object with a colder one. Both the snowman and his block of dry ice will absorb radiance from the walls. VernerHornung wrote:tmiddles wrote: The temperature of the oceans of Earth are unknown. It is not possible to measure it. VernerHornung wrote: WRONG. You are forgetting English beer, dude. Ocean water is not saturated with CO2, so saturation levels are not relevant. The reason we serve beer cold in the U.S. (and in Germany) is because it is bottom fermented. English beer is top fermented, and drinks better warm (some consider it an acquired taste). Soda is often better cold, but a warm Coke does not have less CO2 in it. VernerHornung wrote: Whut? Didn't you say earlier that ice cores contain a record of past CO2? VernerHornung wrote: Guess what? The ice didn't cover the entire Earth during the last ice age...at least there's no indication of it! VernerHornung wrote: Nope. Plant growth destroys CO2. It is converted into carbohydrates. VernerHornung wrote: No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth using IR from the Earth's surface. * You can't create energy out of nothing. VernerHornung wrote:tmiddles wrote: I assume you mean man-made CO2. How much? Please show all sources. VernerHornung wrote: ...or for Al Gore, or for the Church of Global Warming. Is it warming up at all? VernerHornung wrote: The world isn't frozen. Conveniently ignoring latent heat? VernerHornung wrote: I don't believe your Holy Entrails. VernerHornung wrote: No? Why would 3.5 degF make any difference to anywhere? Where is all this water coming from? Are you suggesting that the Great Flood of Noah actually happened? VernerHornung wrote: Rachel Carson in particular was a disaster monger. She even went so far as to remove needed calcium from the bird's diets to get their eggs to weaken. In other words, she faked it all. VernerHornung wrote: And caused thousands, possibly millions of deaths as a result of the mosquito populations DDT was so effective against. Fortunately, some nations still use DDT and ignore the U.S. panic about the stuff. VernerHornung wrote: The hole didn't close. It's still there. It's over the poles, not the industrial nations where these cans were being used. Ozone and freon don't chemically react. You can put them both in a tank and nothing happens. Freon is also like propane. It's heavier than air. VernerHornung wrote: Define 'climate change'. VernerHornung wrote: DuPont WANTED the stuff off the shelf! They were losing the patents on R-12. They could no longer be renewed. DuPont fabricated the whole ozone story to destroy the R-12 market so they could market R134a. They even got the government to pass laws prohibiting the use of R-12 to maintain their monopoly on it. In other words, graft. VernerHornung wrote: That they are. The gambit was successful. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
26-09-2019 03:33 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21599) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:I don't believe you'll back that up. Give an example. RDCF The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 26-09-2019 03:34 |
26-09-2019 04:46 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:VernerHornung wrote:tmiddles wrote: Completely manufactured and false information. So what does happen to the radiance ITN? If it's not absorbed it must be reflected or transmitted? You do realize that there is no support for this crazy theory of yours and IBD's anywhere at all. You are contradicting the last 239 years of thermodynamic science. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference& Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 26-09-2019 04:46 |
26-09-2019 05:50 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21599) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:VernerHornung wrote:tmiddles wrote: RDCF. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 26-09-2019 05:50 |
26-09-2019 15:58 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14414) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:I don't believe you'll back that up. Give an example. How does one "back up" a statement such as the one I made? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
26-09-2019 21:45 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:Give an example of how a thermometer could be or has been used to measure something. Or some source that does so.tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:I don't believe you'll back that up. Give an example. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them. |
26-09-2019 21:56 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14414) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Give an example of how a thermometer could be or has been used to measure something. Or some source that does so.tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:I don't believe you'll back that up. Give an example. I feel silly about this but OK, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpJULQICiGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvjLvCs8PAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViNrWf-kXNs . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
26-09-2019 22:07 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote: Fantastic! So in each video a single thermometer is used, including uses on living things, to determine a temperature. So you acknowledge a temperature being determined in this way? Do you still consider the temperature of the human skin in my repeatable example to be an "unkown"? repeatable example using your own body to prove net radiance "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them |
26-09-2019 22:15 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14414) |
tmiddles wrote: Do you still consider the temperature of the human skin in my repeatable example to be an "unkown"? You haven't provided a repeatable example. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
26-09-2019 22:19 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote: Do you still consider the temperature of the human skin in my repeatable example to be an "unkown"? Do you consider the temperature of your skin, right now, to be unknowable? Unmeasureable? Undeterminable? You didn't answer. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 26-09-2019 22:19 |
26-09-2019 22:55 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21599) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote: Do you still consider the temperature of the human skin in my repeatable example to be an "unkown"? He answered a long time ago. RQAA The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
26-09-2019 23:04 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:Yes for 5 years you and IBD has said nothing is knowable, nothing can be measured, all science is useless. Yet IBD is here pretending that he believes a thermometer can be employed in some way. He included a video link which gave instructions on taking the temperature of a human.tmiddles wrote: So ITN can the temperature of anything be determined/measured with a thermometer? Speak for yourself. In the past you have only stated that it cannot. "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is ever valid for them Edited on 26-09-2019 23:04 |
27-09-2019 02:44 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21599) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:Yes for 5 years you and IBD has said nothing is knowable, nothing can be measured, all science is useless. Yet IBD is here pretending that he believes a thermometer can be employed in some way. He included a video link which gave instructions on taking the temperature of a human.tmiddles wrote: RDCF. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
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