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Thousands of scientists are backing the kids striking for climate change


Thousands of scientists are backing the kids striking for climate change15-03-2019 00:48
Tai Hai Chen
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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00861-z
15-03-2019 02:28
Into the Night
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These are not scientists. They deny science and mathematics.
17-03-2019 18:13
Laws of Nature
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This seems the statement these scientists agree on in their support:
https://www.scientists4future.org/statement-en/

First of all, it seems all about limiting the global warming, not climate change,
2nd I can see one item they are supporting that is that"the best science supports the possibility to limit the global warming by 1.5 or 2deg C".
(there are a couple of other topics mentioned, like limiting resources and preventing mass extinction, but to me they dont seem to part of the Paris agreement)

This raises the question about uncertainty.. how sure are we, that this agreement can work?
17-03-2019 18:34
IBdaMann
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Laws of Nature wrote:
This seems the statement these scientists agree on in their support:
https://www.scientists4future.org/statement-en/

No, it doesn't seem that way.

There is no science in that statement. The subjective opinions of the authors are completely irrelevant. All it shows is that the authors are religiously indoctrinated.

Laws of Nature wrote:
First of all, it seems all about limiting the global warming, not climate change,

Science has already answered that question and there's nothing that can be done on planet earth to alter earth's average global temperature.

Laws of Nature wrote:
2nd I can see one item they are supporting that is that"the best science supports the possibility to limit the global warming by 1.5 or 2deg C".
(there are a couple of other topics mentioned, like limiting resources and preventing mass extinction, but to me they dont seem to part of the Paris agreement)

Science has already answered this question. See above.

Laws of Nature wrote:This raises the question about uncertainty.. how sure are we, that this agreement can work?

Science gives us 100% certainty that the agreement cannot work.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-03-2019 19:03
Into the Night
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Laws of Nature wrote:
This seems the statement these scientists agree on in their support:

Consensus is not used in science. A theory of science requires no consensus to exist or to be falsified. Consensus is only used in religion and politics.
Laws of Nature wrote:
First of all, it seems all about limiting the global warming, not climate change,

Neither 'global warming' nor 'climate change' have been defined. These are BOTH meaningless buzzwords.
Laws of Nature wrote:
2nd I can see one item they are supporting that is that"the best science supports the possibility to limit the global warming by 1.5 or 2deg C".

Meaningless buzzwords have no temperature. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Laws of Nature wrote:
(there are a couple of other topics mentioned, like limiting resources and preventing mass extinction, but to me they dont seem to part of the Paris agreement)

Just predictions of Doom and Gloom if the treaty is not agreed to. This is actually a fallacy, known as Pascal's fallacy. Blaise Pascal once tried to use it to justify Christianity as the 'safe' bet.
Laws of Nature wrote:
This raises the question about uncertainty.. how sure are we, that this agreement can work?

It can't. Pure and simple. It requires measuring:

The atmospheric CO2 of an entire nation. That is not possible to do.

The source of that CO2, whether it's naturally occurring or due to some factory or engine. That is not possible to do.

The temperature of the Earth. That is not possible to do.

And most importantly, the abandonment of science to favor a treaty that is religiously based. CO2 has NO capability to warm the Earth using infrared light emitted from Earth's surface. No gas or vapor has such a capability. There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'.


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Edited on 17-03-2019 19:09




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