panama canal

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
One of the cases of uneven sea levels is at the mouth of he amazon. At this point there is at times faster rate of inflow into the atlantic ocean than the rate of leveling. This is another case of differing rates of inflow vs outflow causing a build up of water, thermal energy or what ever

River discharge does not change sea level.

Swan wrote:Then why is the sea level at the Amazon mouth 3.3 cm higher than the surrounding ocean?

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Then why is the sea level at the Amazon mouth 3.3 cm higher than the surrounding ocean?

Who, besides you, says it is?

Swan wrote: Recent studies suggested that its impact on sea level is potentially important at global and regional scales.

and tends to counterbalance the halosteric sea level contribution.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Recent studies suggested that its impact on sea level is potentially important at global and regional scales.

The first question is whether you called booooolsch't or not. The river gets its water from rain which comes from evaporation of sea water into the atmosphere. The river's discharge returns water, that came from the ocean, back to the ocean.

It has no effect on sea level.

But wait! You posted this article instead of calling booooolsch't. You fell for it. You actually fell for it. Now you're in competition with keepit in a race for the bottom.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Recent studies suggested that its impact on sea level is potentially important at global and regional scales.

The first question is whether you called booooolsch't or not. The river gets its water from rain which comes from evaporation of sea water into the atmosphere. The river's discharge returns water, that came from the ocean, back to the ocean.

It has no effect on sea level.

But wait! You posted this article instead of calling booooolsch't. You fell for it. You actually fell for it. Now you're in competition with keepit in a race for the bottom.

The fact is that the Amazon's outflow raises the ocean level near the mouth of the river before it has time to disperse and level out.

However you just think that the 83 Olympic size swimming pools that the Amazon drains into the Atlantic every second automatically level out in the ocean. Well the outflow is just too fast for that.

Your lack of IQ is still on track at 85 however

James_ wrote:
From Wikpedia;
The estuary of the Amazon is about 330 km (205 mi) wide. The width of the mouth of the river is usually measured from Cabo do Norte to Punto Patijoca. Generally, the outlet of the Para River is included. It is 60 km (37 mi) wide, and forms the estuary of the Tocantins.

Sawn, can you show us the math? You can us inches/centimeters or 6 oz. cups of coffee. And then the amount of water flowing into the Atlantic Ocean in values of 1 second. If the volume is 1/8 coffee cup x/outflow then gives how many coffee cups tall of coffee can be given.
When you say 83 Olympic sized swimming pools, what is the H x W x D = volume. And you can use any frame of reference you like Sawn.

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:
From Wikpedia;
The estuary of the Amazon is about 330 km (205 mi) wide. The width of the mouth of the river is usually measured from Cabo do Norte to Punto Patijoca. Generally, the outlet of the Para River is included. It is 60 km (37 mi) wide, and forms the estuary of the Tocantins.

Sawn, can you show us the math? You can us inches/centimeters or 6 oz. cups of coffee. And then the amount of water flowing into the Atlantic Ocean in values of 1 second. If the volume is 1/8 coffee cup x/outflow then gives how many coffee cups tall of coffee can be given.
When you say 83 Olympic sized swimming pools, what is the H x W x D = volume. And you can use any frame of reference you like Sawn.

Very easy as it has already been done for me.

RIVER WITH THE LARGEST DRAINAGE AND WATERFLOW
The Amazon River is the largest in terms of drainage and waterflow. The Amazon River has an average discharge of roughly 7,381,000 cubic feet per second (209,000 cubic meters per seconds) with an outflow into the Atlantic Ocean. This discharge is greater than the next seven rivers combined. The Amazon also has the largest drainage basin in the world at 2,720,000 square miles (7,050,000 square kilometers), and accounts for one-fifth of the world's total river flow.

It is not my fault that Alan stole your brain

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:
From Wikpedia;
The estuary of the Amazon is about 330 km (205 mi) wide. The width of the mouth of the river is usually measured from Cabo do Norte to Punto Patijoca. Generally, the outlet of the Para River is included. It is 60 km (37 mi) wide, and forms the estuary of the Tocantins.

Sawn, can you show us the math? You can us inches/centimeters or 6 oz. cups of coffee. And then the amount of water flowing into the Atlantic Ocean in values of 1 second. If the volume is 1/8 coffee cup x/outflow then gives how many coffee cups tall of coffee can be given.
When you say 83 Olympic sized swimming pools, what is the H x W x D = volume. And you can use any frame of reference you like Sawn.

Very easy as it has already been done for me.

RIVER WITH THE LARGEST DRAINAGE AND WATERFLOW
The Amazon River is the largest in terms of drainage and waterflow. The Amazon River has an average discharge of roughly 7,381,000 cubic feet per second (209,000 cubic meters per seconds) with an outflow into the Atlantic Ocean. This discharge is greater than the next seven rivers combined. The Amazon also has the largest drainage basin in the world at 2,720,000 square miles (7,050,000 square kilometers), and accounts for one-fifth of the world's total river flow.

It is not my fault that Alan stole your brain

What you're talking about is 2.71 cubic feet of water emptying into 1 square mile of basin. So?

Swan wrote: The fact is that the Amazon's outflow raises the ocean level near the mouth of the river before it has time to disperse and level out.

Im a BM wrote: Once again, IBdaMann's lack of intellectual honesty is exposed.

Im a BM wrote: River water flows DOWNHILL from an above sea level position.

Im a BM wrote: It is not physically possible for it to INSTANTANEOUSLY drop to sea level just because the river water has reached the sea.

Im a BM wrote: OF COURSE there is some area of water in the ocean that remains higher than sea level at the point of river water entry.

Im a BM wrote: If IBdaMann were intellectually honest, he would admit the error.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: The fact is that the Amazon's outflow raises the ocean level near the mouth of the river before it has time to disperse and level out.

You didn't write that the mouth of any river was higher than Caribbean. You wrote that the Pacific ocean was higher than Caribbean.

Yes, the Pacific has had time to disperse.

Im a BM wrote: Once again, IBdaMann's lack of intellectual honesty is exposed.

I've gotta hear this ...

Im a BM wrote: River water flows DOWNHILL from an above sea level position.

I apparently didn't give you enough credit for your science acumen. Right here you have demonstrated a certain understanding that is beyond any aptitude you have shown previously. I'm surprised.

In any event, I'll put a gold star on your paper.

Im a BM wrote: It is not physically possible for it to INSTANTANEOUSLY drop to sea level just because the river water has reached the sea.

I'm getting the impression that a bogus position is somehow being assigned to me. If only Robup could make a coherent point.

Im a BM wrote: OF COURSE there is some area of water in the ocean that remains higher than sea level at the point of river water entry.

... and don't forget waves. The tops of them suckers routinely exceed sea level.

Im a BM wrote: If IBdaMann were intellectually honest, he would admit the error.

I'm still trying to figure out what error that would be that you aren't dishonestly assigning to me.

Swan wrote:

Yes the Pacific is higher than the Atlantic, and yes the massive outflow of the Amazon raises the local height if the Atlantic.

Now finish your mushrooms

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

Yes the Pacific is higher than the Atlantic, and yes the massive outflow of the Amazon raises the local height if the Atlantic.

Now finish your mushrooms

And yet the Atlantic Ocean has the Mid-Atlantic Ridge while the Pacific Ocean
sits on its very own tectonic plate. Significance Sawd?

James_ wrote:
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is obvious. To the right of where it says North Atlantic Ocean is the African tectonic plate. Where the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is most noticeable is where the North American, Eurasian and African tectonic plates meet.
A coincidence? We can ask Saw'd it. And the Mid-Atlantic Ridge being most noticeable at the junction of 3 tectonic plates says it's the weakest joint or it's a collision.
And if you go east of the Ural Mountains in Russia and before you get to Yekaterinburg you'll be in Asia. Just an FYI (For Your Information).
So Saw'd it why is the Pacific Ocean above a single tectonic plate at a higher elevation than water over 3 different tectonic plates?
How would both the North American and the Eurasian tectonic plates subducting
under the Pacific plate (pushing the pacific plate down?) influence how gravity interacts with sea level?
Does this change the Earth's CoG? Or like the Moon, does it distort the Earth's gravitational filed?

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is obvious. To the right of where it says North Atlantic Ocean is the African tectonic plate. Where the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is most noticeable is where the North American, Eurasian and African tectonic plates meet.
A coincidence? We can ask Saw'd it. And the Mid-Atlantic Ridge being most noticeable at the junction of 3 tectonic plates says it's the weakest joint or it's a collision.
And if you go east of the Ural Mountains in Russia and before you get to Yekaterinburg you'll be in Asia. Just an FYI (For Your Information).
So Saw'd it why is the Pacific Ocean above a single tectonic plate at a higher elevation than water over 3 different tectonic plates?
How would both the North American and the Eurasian tectonic plates subducting
under the Pacific plate (pushing the pacific plate down?) influence how gravity interacts with sea level?
Does this change the Earth's CoG? Or like the Moon, does it distort the Earth's gravitational filed?

So you can't find a link that says what you claim

Silly

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is obvious. To the right of where it says North Atlantic Ocean is the African tectonic plate. Where the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is most noticeable is where the North American, Eurasian and African tectonic plates meet.
A coincidence? We can ask Saw'd it. And the Mid-Atlantic Ridge being most noticeable at the junction of 3 tectonic plates says it's the weakest joint or it's a collision.
And if you go east of the Ural Mountains in Russia and before you get to Yekaterinburg you'll be in Asia. Just an FYI (For Your Information).
So Saw'd it why is the Pacific Ocean above a single tectonic plate at a higher elevation than water over 3 different tectonic plates?
How would both the North American and the Eurasian tectonic plates subducting
under the Pacific plate (pushing the pacific plate down?) influence how gravity interacts with sea level?
Does this change the Earth's CoG? Or like the Moon, does it distort the Earth's gravitational filed?

So you can't find a link that says what you claim

Silly

I'm asking you what you think. I am here to learn from you. So teach.

Swan wrote:
My fee for teaching is steep, I seriously doubt that you could afford the tuition

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:
My fee for teaching is steep, I seriously doubt that you could afford the tuition

I thought you'd want to show us how much smarter than us you are is wasn't but maybe might be. Like why would the water over the pacific plate (Pacific Ocean) be higher than water over the North American, African and Eurasian tectonic plates (Atlantic Ocean).
This has to be an easy problem for you Sawed. Show us you can do it!!

Swan wrote:

You are trying to say that the level of the plate makes the Pacific higher.

James_ wrote:p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

You are trying to say that the level of the plate makes the Pacific higher.

? Word play, got it.
p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

You are trying to say that the level of the plate makes the Pacific higher.

? Word play, got it.
p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

You just do not understand the physics as the flow rate of the Amazon is faster than the leveling rate of gravity in the Amazon delta. Besides the Amazon delta and the Panama Canal are 2250 miles apart

If you have any more questions, please ask your mommy first

IBdaMann wrote:

James_ wrote:p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

I believe I have mentioned this before, but here's a little trivia concerning the Panama Canal: The bridge at the Miraflores locks is open when it is closed and is closed when it is open.

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

You are trying to say that the level of the plate makes the Pacific higher.

? Word play, got it.
p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

You just do not understand the physics as the flow rate of the Amazon is faster than the leveling rate of gravity in the Amazon delta. Besides the Amazon delta and the Panama Canal are 2250 miles apart

If you have any more questions, please ask your mommy first

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

James_ wrote:

Swan wrote:

You are trying to say that the level of the plate makes the Pacific higher.

? Word play, got it.
p.s., When the Amazon River empities into the ocean, it is higher than the ocean, right? It is only when it isn't.

You just do not understand the physics as the flow rate of the Amazon is faster than the leveling rate of gravity in the Amazon delta. Besides the Amazon delta and the Panama Canal are 2250 miles apart

If you have any more questions, please ask your mommy first

What you'll be showing Alan is why Jesus likes child molesters. If children want to feel good about themselves they can go to church or do something seen as good.
And then they can give credit to Jesus. After all, who'd thank a child molester who openly posts little boys do what I like and forums support "me" ("me" meaning Alan Bauldree).

Swan wrote: You just do not understand the physics as the flow rate of the Amazon is faster than the leveling rate of gravity in the Amazon delta.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: You just do not understand the physics as the flow rate of the Amazon is faster than the leveling rate of gravity in the Amazon delta.

You just do not understand the physics, as once the water leaves the Amazon delta, the water quickly reaches the level of the rest of the Atlantic, which coincidentally happens to be sea level.

Let me know whenever you are confused about how liquids work.

Swan wrote:So you never ran a boat through the turbulent water where the river and oceans meet.