New Posters beware!

Spongy Iris wrote:
As seal over might say, caffeine is a xenobiotic.

GretaGroupie wrote:Yes, I do love her Duncan. She is soooo wonderful!

IBdaMann wrote:

GretaGroupie wrote:I love that IBM and I found 3 Gretas.

GretaGroupie wrote:Thank you that is so cool!

IBdaMann wrote:
Don't forget the moon's reflection.
Like a lake in the evening.

GretaGroupie wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
Don't forget the moon's reflection.
Like a lake in the evening.

Yes yes yes I see it!!!

I am going to save this on my phone so I can look at it while I dancing at the club and be happy

sealover wrote:
Es Culto de Religion Anti Cientifica

squeal over wrote:Soy Culto de Religion Anti Cientifica

IBdaMann wrote:
Mejor decir que eres el jocote con sal ... sin el jocote.

i willa speaka italian bya the
enda ofa nexta weeka

branner wrote:
@sealover
Your science related posts are very welcome on the site. You have started a lot of interesting threads related to climate science, which I appreciate.

@All posters
Just keep writing about climate change, and stick to that, instead of personal attacks and spam.

And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

squeal over wrote:Good news, Jeppe. There are already fewer ugly clown pictures,

squeal over wrote:and some of those guys are actually having a legitimate scientific debate about natural selection in evolutionary biology.

squeal over wrote:I can't believe it either! All of their terms are unambiguously defined! I didn't know that was allowed.

squeal over wrote:Maybe someday a valid debate about climate.. if we're allowed to use the word.

branner wrote:
@sealover
Your science related posts are very welcome on the site. You have started a lot of interesting threads related to climate science, which I appreciate.

@All posters
Just keep writing about climate change, and stick to that, instead of personal attacks and spam.

And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

sealover wrote:"I don't think you need to intervene to ban anybody" - sealover

"I see no need for you to come in and act as moderator" - sealover

sealover wrote:
From Branner, April 25 email.

I'm taking the liberty of quoting a private email message from Branner without getting prior consent.

"My best hope for now is that more and more science based posts will appear, taking up more and more of the space, and slowly making the insults less dominant on the site.."

Good news, Jeppe. There are already fewer ugly clown pictures, and some of those guys are actually having a legitimate scientific debate about natural selection in evolutionary biology.

I can't believe it either!

An actual legitimate scientific debate now on THIS website.

Miracles never cease.

About natural selection.

Maybe someday a valid debate about climate.. if we're allowed to use the word.

I don't think that myself or the poop man are getting banned yet.

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branner wrote:
@sealover
Your science related posts are very welcome on the site. You have started a lot of interesting threads related to climate science, which I appreciate.

@All posters
Just keep writing about climate change, and stick to that, instead of personal attacks and spam.

And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

HarveyH55 wrote:

sealover wrote:
From Branner, April 25 email.

I'm taking the liberty of quoting a private email message from Branner without getting prior consent.

"My best hope for now is that more and more science based posts will appear, taking up more and more of the space, and slowly making the insults less dominant on the site.."

Good news, Jeppe. There are already fewer ugly clown pictures, and some of those guys are actually having a legitimate scientific debate about natural selection in evolutionary biology.

I can't believe it either!

An actual legitimate scientific debate now on THIS website.

Miracles never cease.

About natural selection.

Maybe someday a valid debate about climate.. if we're allowed to use the word.

I don't think that myself or the poop man are getting banned yet.

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branner wrote:
@sealover
Your science related posts are very welcome on the site. You have started a lot of interesting threads related to climate science, which I appreciate.

@All posters
Just keep writing about climate change, and stick to that, instead of personal attacks and spam.

And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

I think you are a fake, a phony, a fraud. Nothing you post, has any credibility. The use of a sock-henchman, the threat of May 1st mayhem, threats of banning long time members, who refuse to join your cult. From you track record here, you are probably faking these Emails as well. You have an obsession for attention, validation, respect, that you can only get, virtually. Offline, you are a total loser, with no hope of changing. You post articles, that consist of science-fantasy, or obscure nonsense, that really has little to do with nothing. Stuff that most, of any education level would care too much about, other than a passing interest, without questioning. Probably got you by, on other sites for a while, until you ran out of material, or posted total bullshit. Won't last here any better, since its bullshit, from your fantasy, virtual reality. From your first posts, your only way to build yourself up, to significance, has been to attempt to tear others down. You wouldn't need to bother, if you actually had anything else to start with. You lack the confidence, of someone, who actaully, knows, and has acheived anything in life. There are plenty of climate sites, for overly educated (indoctrinated) people, where you should fit right in, and discuss all the things you seem to want here. No need to add this site to that list. Not everyone has to agree, or follow.

GretaGroupie wrote:

branner wrote:
And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

Holey Bazoley your real

Did you know sealover thought I was you but I did think Spongy was sealover once too so I guess we all make mistakes.

You are like the wizard of oz who made this place but nobody sees. IBM is a know it all but you must be a god on his smart person scale.

So please, please, please tell us if climate change is real because as the wizard you must know. I used to think it was real when I was with the prof but now I'm not sure.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I wathed the wizard of oz with the prof in costumes with me as the scarecrow and him as the lion. Ever see a lion hump a scarecrow? Just kidding I am still a backdoor vergin. My house moms made sure he stuck to the client rules when I moved in with him (SWAN in case your allshimers is acting up and you forgot again that means hand and oral only with a rain coat). He always wore one but I did not cause he liked the taste of my icky sticky (ewwww - gross). I tried wearing one once but it kept falling off. I do not think they make them that small.

Anywho I hope the wizard answers me.

Im a BM wrote:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...

I suspect that the vision behind this website was not just to qualify as a god on the IBM smart person scale.

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GretaGroupie wrote:

branner wrote:
And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

Holey Bazoley your real

Did you know sealover thought I was you but I did think Spongy was sealover once too so I guess we all make mistakes.

You are like the wizard of oz who made this place but nobody sees. IBM is a know it all but you must be a god on his smart person scale.

So please, please, please tell us if climate change is real because as the wizard you must know. I used to think it was real when I was with the prof but now I'm not sure.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I wathed the wizard of oz with the prof in costumes with me as the scarecrow and him as the lion. Ever see a lion hump a scarecrow? Just kidding I am still a backdoor vergin. My house moms made sure he stuck to the client rules when I moved in with him (SWAN in case your allshimers is acting up and you forgot again that means hand and oral only with a rain coat). He always wore one but I did not cause he liked the taste of my icky sticky (ewwww - gross). I tried wearing one once but it kept falling off. I do not think they make them that small.

Anywho I hope the wizard answers me.

James_ wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...

I suspect that the vision behind this website was not just to qualify as a god on the IBM smart person scale.

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GretaGroupie wrote:

branner wrote:
And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

Holey Bazoley your real

Did you know sealover thought I was you but I did think Spongy was sealover once too so I guess we all make mistakes.

You are like the wizard of oz who made this place but nobody sees. IBM is a know it all but you must be a god on his smart person scale.

So please, please, please tell us if climate change is real because as the wizard you must know. I used to think it was real when I was with the prof but now I'm not sure.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I wathed the wizard of oz with the prof in costumes with me as the scarecrow and him as the lion. Ever see a lion hump a scarecrow? Just kidding I am still a backdoor vergin. My house moms made sure he stuck to the client rules when I moved in with him (SWAN in case your allshimers is acting up and you forgot again that means hand and oral only with a rain coat). He always wore one but I did not cause he liked the taste of my icky sticky (ewwww - gross). I tried wearing one once but it kept falling off. I do not think they make them that small.

Anywho I hope the wizard answers me.

The real purpose might be to collect metadata. People sell that to
advertisers. Why you need to allow for cookies, the cookie monster loves collecting data and we're not talking Sesame Street cookie monster.

sealover wrote:A serious question about meta data collection.

IBdaMann wrote:

sealover wrote:A serious question about meta data collection.

Metadata is not collected. Data is collected. Metadata is generated.

sealover wrote:
Hello James

I hope that you know I am being sincere when I say that I like and respect you.

Less than two days ago I figured out who they were trying to insult with the "Bible troll" crap. Kind of despicable behavior, in my opinion.

sealover wrote:
A serious question about meta data collection.

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

sealover wrote:A serious question about meta data collection.

Metadata is not collected. Data is collected. Metadata is generated.

And your right hand knows this how?
Cough it up Harvey, you know the answer.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

sealover wrote:A serious question about meta data collection.

Metadata is not collected. Data is collected. Metadata is generated.

And your right hand knows this how?
Cough it up Harvey, you know the answer.

Meta data is a description, usually for a document. For a website, it often contains what software and version was used to create it. Graphics, photos, videos have similar data saved in each file. Which people tend to not even know about, as the post them online. Cell phones, digital cameras include location, even GPS. A thief could surf social media, download these files, and possibly recover the location of some valuables. Like everything else, meta data can be useful, or exploited.

But, for websites, it important, since it gives information your browser needs to correctly display the site on your computer.

IBdaMann wrote:

branner wrote:@All posters
Just keep writing about climate change, and stick to that

branner, you spend time on the Danish mirror site. Has anyone on that site ever defined the following:

1) The Global Climate
2) Climate Change
3) Global Warming
4) Greenhouse Effect
5) Climate Science

I have never seen any unambiguous definitions for these.

branner wrote: And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

Would you consider listing it on airbnb for perhaps a weekly vacation rental?

.

Im a BM wrote:
Clearly, you have had multiple excellent communications with Branner. And, clearly, you have many friends.

GretaGroupie wrote:

branner wrote:
And no, I have NO PLANS of closing down or selling the site.

Holey Bazoley your real

Did you know sealover thought I was you but I did think Spongy was sealover once too so I guess we all make mistakes.

You are like the wizard of oz who made this place but nobody sees. IBM is a know it all but you must be a god on his smart person scale.

So please, please, please tell us if climate change is real because as the wizard you must know. I used to think it was real when I was with the prof but now I'm not sure.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I wathed the wizard of oz with the prof in costumes with me as the scarecrow and him as the lion. Ever see a lion hump a scarecrow? Just kidding I am still a backdoor vergin. My house moms made sure he stuck to the client rules when I moved in with him (SWAN in case your allshimers is acting up and you forgot again that means hand and oral only with a rain coat). He always wore one but I did not cause he liked the taste of my icky sticky (ewwww - gross). I tried wearing one once but it kept falling off. I do not think they make them that small.

Anywho I hope the wizard answers me.

Ceist wrote:
New posters beware!

This forum is almost completely neglected by it's owner and is virtually unmoderated, so it has become the last refuge of a small handful of hardcore science deniers and conspiracy theorists who exhibit strong signs of mental illness - including personality disorders, autism spectrum disorders, narcissistic irrational and delusional thinking, emotional dis-regulation, paranoia, pathological lying, and abusive sociopathic manipulative behavior.

They have probably been banned from other forums for their poor behavior just as much as for their trolling of utterly irrational scientifically illiterate crackpot ideas.

Post at your own risk.

D

squeal over wrote:
The search for solutions versus the denial of problems,....

with love,

squeal over

duncan61 wrote:
I went looking for the problem and it did not exist.What do I get active about.I posted the NASA climate newsletter article about failing corn crops but it is easy to read between the lines and see it is all a big fat possibility but not a definite reality.Corn is growing very well.Everything is based on the future and this runaway warming that is not happening.The time line keeps moving further and further away.I have been doing this for 3 years and the latest thing I have noticed is that because of all the alarmists doomsday rhetoric young people are getting anxiety and dropping out of uni on the theory that by the time they get a degree the world will end so what's the point.Now the alarmists are softening their approach and going there is still hope.Nice work media.Sealover you never answer but I will try again.Are you contending that if atmospheric CO2 was averaging 350ppm there would be no bushfires?

sealover wrote:

Ceist wrote:
New posters beware!

This forum is almost completely neglected by it's owner and is virtually unmoderated, so it has become the last refuge of a small handful of hardcore science deniers and conspiracy theorists who exhibit strong signs of mental illness - including personality disorders, autism spectrum disorders, narcissistic irrational and delusional thinking, emotional dis-regulation, paranoia, pathological lying, and abusive sociopathic manipulative behavior.

They have probably been banned from other forums for their poor behavior just as much as for their trolling of utterly irrational scientifically illiterate crackpot ideas.

Post at your own risk.

D

If you got one of the flyers at the Whole Earth Festival, proceed with caution.

It may be tempting to sign up right away, but I hope that you will wait.

Take some time to learn first. Study what is going on here before jumping in.

There is plenty to be learned just by reading old posts for a time.

It is self evident who is who.

Science versus defiance.

Activism versus cynicism.

The search for solutions versus the denial of problems.

Sincerity versus sadism.

Reality versus... well, read for a while before you write anything.

With love,

sealover

sealover wrote:
a PM option for sharing information and asking questions.

Anyone can view any post without signing up as a site member.

If you choose to join, be conscious of what Ceist wrote here years ago.

One way to be sure that the information or question you share is seen by all would be to publicly post it on a related thread.

You will almost certainly get unwelcome feedback, perhaps ugly and even just vicious. A second disadvantage is that for anyone to look up your contribution, they would have to know where you posted it or find it under your name.

Another option would be to send the information or question you want to share to sealover's private message (PM).

Sealover can then publicly post your information/question, crediting you if you want, but posting it where anyone can find it in the list of sealover posts.

The title of the post that includes your contribution can be one that you designate for sealover to copy verbatum, or you can let sealover choose a title to help you and others know that it reflects your input and what it is about.

This way, someone can just look up the most recent posts under sealover and find it without having to sift through a bunch of troll posts of heckling, bullying, and consuming space with spam.

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sealover wrote:

Ceist wrote:
New posters beware!

This forum is almost completely neglected by it's owner and is virtually unmoderated, so it has become the last refuge of a small handful of hardcore science deniers and conspiracy theorists who exhibit strong signs of mental illness - including personality disorders, autism spectrum disorders, narcissistic irrational and delusional thinking, emotional dis-regulation, paranoia, pathological lying, and abusive sociopathic manipulative behavior.

They have probably been banned from other forums for their poor behavior just as much as for their trolling of utterly irrational scientifically illiterate crackpot ideas.

Post at your own risk.

D

If you got one of the flyers at the Whole Earth Festival, proceed with caution.

It may be tempting to sign up right away, but I hope that you will wait.

Take some time to learn first. Study what is going on here before jumping in.

There is plenty to be learned just by reading old posts for a time.

It is self evident who is who.

Science versus defiance.

Activism versus cynicism.

The search for solutions versus the denial of problems.

Sincerity versus sadism.

Reality versus... well, read for a while before you write anything.

With love,

sealover

IBdaMann wrote:

sealover wrote:"I don't think you need to intervene to ban anybody" - sealover

"I see no need for you to come in and act as moderator" - sealover

That's awfully large of you. Thank you.

Ceist wrote:

branner wrote:
Please note that personal attacks are not welcome on Climate-Debate.com. I know that the forum has not been moderated so much lately, but users have been banned before, and that could easily happen again.

Therefore: Stop talking about mental illnesses or calling each other names. Surface Detail had a good advice, which I would like to copy: "Stay calm, ignore the abuse, and stick to the science."

Please send me a Private Message if something needs my immediate attention.

And to the new users: Welcome to Climate-Debate.com. I'm fully aware that this can be a tough place, but I hope you will help pushing it in a good direction. I still hope to get more time to moderate soon.

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May 14, 2022 insertion into years old post:

My own communications with Jeppe Branner have been mainly about how I can help keep pushing it in a good direction.

So far, so good. And the site owner DOES care and DOES pay attention.

I fully understand how Ceist came to the underlying conclusion, years ago.

It is absolutely correct that "most visitors don't stay around for long - because of one particular poster... IBdaMann."

1600 people are "users". About 1590 of them don't want to be part of it now.

Ceist was absolutely correct about "2nd most active user is his little Internet sidekick - Into the Night."

However, if number of posts are the indicator of activity, sidekick has now taken the lead with something like 18000 posts, versus the cult leader's 12000.

Ceist was absolutely correct about how lack of adult supervision "allowed a narcissistic psychopathic sadistic troll to overrun it and make it his personal playground."

I will continue, as per Jeppe Branner's encouragement, to help keep pushing it in a good direction.

My only suggestion to Jeppe Branner would be to reconsider the policy of never banning a user without a thorough investigation to get both side's point of view in any conflict fair evaluation.

Without judgement, a simple new policy of term limits for posts.

Anyone who posts more than 10000 times had exceeded their term limit. Bye.

But if Jeppe Branner really need to give a fair hearing to both sides in a conflict,
there are 1590 on one side, and 2 on the other.

The following is what Ceist posted here, years ago.

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Internet trolls are often narcissistic, psychopathic and sadistic:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

The reason this forum won't be 'pushed in a good direction' and has become a complete joke, is that you've neglected it and allowed a narcissistic psychopathic sadistic troll to overrun it and make it his personal playground. Most visitors don't stay around for long -because of one particular poster.

Look at the most active user in the last year:

http://www.climate-debate.com/topusers.php

IBdaMann.

2nd most active user is his little internet side-kick - Into the Night.

duncan61 wrote:
Just ignore them its not hard to do.My concern was always is there any truth to the global warming claims and 3 years later it would take a lot of compelling evidence to get me to believe the planet is in climate trouble of any sort due to manmade emmisions,The planet is too big