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10-01-2018 21:08
Wake
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James_ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
The Aral Sea is a good example of how industrialization and increased agricultural production can effect the climate/environment.

The disaster of the Aral Sea was not because of industrialization, it was because the government of the USSR decided it wanted fisherman to become farmers.


ITN,
Industrialization allows for increased farm production.


The latest loony tunes "study" is that over time the amounts of protein, zinc and iron are reduced in the faster growing food plants such as wheat, rice and soybeans. They assign this as being caused by global warming caused by man made CO2.

You should find this as no surprise - there wasn't a study. These are all "what if's" and have shown NO such things to date save in a laboratory test in which one greenhouse was held at 350 ppm and another at 580 ppm. Of course they do not show any references and it and tests such as this would have to be totally repeatable to even invite real studies which might show nothing more than simply changing the sub-species of grains would totally reverse their findings.

There is something really wrong with what is going on in this freaked out environmentalism.
10-01-2018 22:30
Into the Night
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James_ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
The Aral Sea is a good example of how industrialization and increased agricultural production can effect the climate/environment.

The disaster of the Aral Sea was not because of industrialization, it was because the government of the USSR decided it wanted fisherman to become farmers.


ITN,
Industrialization allows for increased farm production.


Non-sequitur. If anything, increased farm production allows for industrialization. If people don't have to spend all their energy trying to survive, they can do other things.


The Parrot Killer
10-01-2018 22:33
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
James_ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
The Aral Sea is a good example of how industrialization and increased agricultural production can effect the climate/environment.

The disaster of the Aral Sea was not because of industrialization, it was because the government of the USSR decided it wanted fisherman to become farmers.


ITN,
Industrialization allows for increased farm production.


The latest loony tunes "study" is that over time the amounts of protein, zinc and iron are reduced in the faster growing food plants such as wheat, rice and soybeans. They assign this as being caused by global warming caused by man made CO2.

Haven't heard this one! Sounds like the kind of crap the Church of Global Warming preaches though!
Wake wrote:
You should find this as no surprise - there wasn't a study. These are all "what if's" and have shown NO such things to date save in a laboratory test in which one greenhouse was held at 350 ppm and another at 580 ppm. Of course they do not show any references and it and tests such as this would have to be totally repeatable to even invite real studies which might show nothing more than simply changing the sub-species of grains would totally reverse their findings.

Ah. Another 'experimental result' like the one that inspired the book 'Silent Spring'.
Wake wrote:
There is something really wrong with what is going on in this freaked out environmentalism.

It's been going on since the idea of Marxism took hold of so many people in the 60's.

They've found environmentalism the perfect vehicle to push their Marxism. Actual environmentalists, that were actually doing something useful, got pushed out in favor of the Marxists. The poor guys were outnumbered.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 10-01-2018 22:35
11-01-2018 01:01
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebarf filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" wiffed::Actual environmentalists..... got pushed out in favor of the Marxists.
communist chinese murdered, tortured & starved to death 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES between 1949 & 1970.
11-01-2018 17:34
James_
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Wake wrote:
There is something really wrong with what is going on in this freaked out environmentalism.

Into the Night wrote:
It's been going on since the idea of Marxism took hold of so many people in the 60's.

They've found environmentalism the perfect vehicle to push their Marxism. Actual environmentalists, that were actually doing something useful, got pushed out in favor of the Marxists. The poor guys were outnumbered.


ITN,
Marxism actually started before the 60's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8
11-01-2018 18:23
Into the Night
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James_ wrote:
[quote]Wake wrote:
There is something really wrong with what is going on in this freaked out environmentalism.

Into the Night wrote:
It's been going on since the idea of Marxism took hold of so many people in the 60's.

They've found environmentalism the perfect vehicle to push their Marxism. Actual environmentalists, that were actually doing something useful, got pushed out in favor of the Marxists. The poor guys were outnumbered.


ITN,
Marxism actually started before the 60's
...deleted redundant link...

I never said it started in the 60's. What happened in the 60's was so many people in the United States began to embrace it.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 11-01-2018 18:23
11-01-2018 18:24
Wake
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James_ wrote: Marxism actually started before the 60's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8


Karl Marx published his book in English in, I believe, 1906. Marx was a German but his work was translated to Russian circa 1872.

This became the rage of the educated upper elite university professors. This because most of them were losers who couldn't make a living otherwise and like all liberals to this date, thought that the world owed them a living.

We have just seen liberal professors in the US during Obama teaching socialism in even math and physics classes. They caused socialist beliefs in over half of the children going through college.

But these beliefs wear off after they start working. It isn't too successful when the government wants to take what YOU make instead of what other people make. We are seeing how upset the Democrats are that we aren't stealing as much money from the wealthy now. They are particularly upset that people will now actually THINK about why the government should do things for them at 10 times the cost more than if they did it themselves.

The swamp is slowly but surely being drained.
Edited on 11-01-2018 18:46
11-01-2018 18:36
James_
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Neither of watched the link, did you ?
It's a clip of the Marx Bros.

@ITN, what happened in the 60's was Vietnam and Civil Rights.

@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.
11-01-2018 21:25
Into the Night
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James_ wrote:
Neither of watched the link, did you ?
It's a clip of the Marx Bros.

So? Irrelevant material.
James_ wrote:
@ITN, what happened in the 60's was Vietnam and Civil Rights.

A lot more happened in the 60's than that! Non-sequitur. I am talking about the people who embraced Marxism in the 60's. That's also the time when many colleges and universities were forced to hire liberal professors through riots and demonstrations. Hey...just like the Mob, isn't it?

Hire the mob or they break your face!

James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.


Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


The Parrot Killer
11-01-2018 22:08
James_
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James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.
11-01-2018 22:13
Wake
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James_ wrote:
James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.


All creatures big and small will live in dirty environments. Do you suppose rats living in a sewer system are clean?
11-01-2018 22:23
Into the Night
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James_ wrote:
James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.


Ah...the usual insult stream as a comeback. Lame.


The Parrot Killer
11-01-2018 22:26
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
James_ wrote:
James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.


All creatures big and small will live in dirty environments. Do you suppose rats living in a sewer system are clean?


Heh. Since a 'dirty' environment is just one that contains dirt, I guess we ALL live in a dirty environment! Rats, people, deer, insects, eagles, etc.


The Parrot Killer
12-01-2018 00:05
litesong
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James_ wrote:....man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.
Pigs like to be in a clean environment.
Edited by branner on 11-03-2018 10:38
12-01-2018 00:41
Into the Night
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litesong wrote:
James_ wrote:....man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.
Pigs like to be in a clean environment.



Pigs like dirt. They even stick their noses in it.


The Parrot Killer
Edited by branner on 11-03-2018 10:39
12-01-2018 01:07
litesong
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Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
James_ wrote:....man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.
Pigs like to be in a clean environment.
Pigs like dirt. They even stick their noses in it.
Pigs root with their noses, so they can find food to eat. Their preference is to be clean. However, they are susceptible to sunburn with their course, but thin hair, so they roll in dirt or mud to protect their skin. Other animals have various methods to protect themselves from sunburn.
Edited by branner on 11-03-2018 10:39
12-01-2018 22:18
Into the Night
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litesong wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
James_ wrote:....man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.
Pigs like to be in a clean environment.
Pigs like dirt. They even stick their noses in it.
Pigs root with their noses, so they can find food to eat. Their preference is to be clean. However, they are susceptible to sunburn with their course, but thin hair, so they roll in dirt or mud to protect their skin. Other animals have various methods to protect themselves from sunburn.


Pigs like dirt. That makes them dirty. All life is dirty. We all depend on dirt.


The Parrot Killer
Edited by branner on 11-03-2018 10:40
13-01-2018 20:11
James_
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Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.


Ah...the usual insult stream as a comeback. Lame.


Not an insult. You don't say anything worth reading. I do have a quote for you;
Jack McDevitt, (in his book Coming Home) wrote: There is no ultimate truth. There is only the moment and what you choose to do with it.


That is what you've been wanting to know, right ? Now you do.
Edited on 13-01-2018 20:12
13-01-2018 20:38
Into the Night
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James_ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
James_ wrote:
@Wake, man is one of only a few animals that will live in a dirty environment.

Into the Night wrote:
Define 'dirty' environment. Buzzword fallacy.


"dirty" environment could include posting with you ITN. What you fail to understand is that by wanting to matter you don't. You nullify yourself.


Ah...the usual insult stream as a comeback. Lame.


Not an insult. You don't say anything worth reading. I do have a quote for you;
Jack McDevitt, (in his book Coming Home) wrote: There is no ultimate truth. There is only the moment and what you choose to do with it.


That is what you've been wanting to know, right ? Now you do.


I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


The Parrot Killer
13-01-2018 21:13
Wake
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Into the Night wrote: I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


Everything you write now simply makes it more clear that not only do you not have any knowledge of science but you simply don't want any.
13-01-2018 21:28
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote: I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


Everything you write now simply makes it more clear that not only do you not have any knowledge of science but you simply don't want any.


What the hell are YOU talking about??? This wasn't even a conversation about any science!


The Parrot Killer
13-01-2018 21:30
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote: I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


Everything you write now simply makes it more clear that not only do you not have any knowledge of science but you simply don't want any.


What the hell are YOU talking about??? This wasn't even a conversation about any science!


Your favorite kind.
14-01-2018 18:29
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote: I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


Everything you write now simply makes it more clear that not only do you not have any knowledge of science but you simply don't want any.


What the hell are YOU talking about??? This wasn't even a conversation about any science!


Your favorite kind.


Your actually going to make a meal out of nothing???


The Parrot Killer
15-01-2018 04:59
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebarf steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed:... a meal out of nothing???
u been eatin' cotton candy....
15-01-2018 22:52
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote: I'm just going to let stand your attempt to redefine 'insult' as the lie that it is.


Everything you write now simply makes it more clear that not only do you not have any knowledge of science but you simply don't want any.


What the hell are YOU talking about??? This wasn't even a conversation about any science!


Your favorite kind.


Your actually going to make a meal out of nothing???


I see that my last posting disappeared. So to repeat it: When you're speaking of politics you're pretty much on the right track. When you veer off into what you perceive as science you're pretty screwed up.
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