student protests

keepit wrote:
Ahh, the good old days. The student protests of the old days (1960's and 1970's).
I miss those days. The students were pretty good at it because it stayed under control, at least until the authorities got frustrated and took various forms of action against it. I'm reminded of kent state.
JMHO but these current protests seem to have good basis. Namely that Israel's response to oct 7 is excessive and directed incorrectly. Maybe netanyahoo has lost his mind? Not that i don't support Israel, i do, but i don't support Israel's response to their current problem.

keepit wrote:
Ahh, the good old days. The student protests of the old days (1960's and 1970's).
I miss those days. The students were pretty good at it because it stayed under control, at least until the authorities got frustrated and took various forms of action against it. I'm reminded of kent state.

keepit wrote:
JMHO but these current protests seem to have good basis. Namely that Israel's response to oct 7 is excessive and directed incorrectly. Maybe netanyahoo has lost his mind? Not that i don't support Israel, i do, but i don't support Israel's response to their current problem.

Into the Night wrote: They are occupations, using Hamas terrorism as a reason.

Im a BM wrote: Just to refresh my memory, I looked up the April 27, 1984 newspaper articles about the protests in the Dominican Republic.

Im a BM wrote: The press (NYT, WAPO, etc.) claimed that 60 people were killed and 200 wounded. Everyone in the country (DR) at the time knew the true figure was far higher.

Im a BM wrote: So, it is hard for me to think fondly about these kind of events.

Im a BM wrote: Especially with more details now being revealed about Donald Trump's desire to have the US military use live rounds to fire on BLM protesters.

Im a BM wrote: Disappointed when told it would be illegal, he apparently asked if they couldn't at least shoot them in the legs.

Im a BM wrote: If he gets back into power again, he will be sure to appoint generals who will say "yes" next time.

keepit wrote:
im a bm,
You make a good point. I wasn't thinking about the protests where the authoritarians got frustrated and lost their cool.

Im a BM wrote:

keepit wrote:
Ahh, the good old days. The student protests of the old days (1960's and 1970's).
I miss those days. The students were pretty good at it because it stayed under control, at least until the authorities got frustrated and took various forms of action against it. I'm reminded of kent state.
JMHO but these current protests seem to have good basis. Namely that Israel's response to oct 7 is excessive and directed incorrectly. Maybe netanyahoo has lost his mind? Not that i don't support Israel, i do, but i don't support Israel's response to their current problem.

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You know, they weren't always good old days.

I remember vividly the first student protest that I got caught in the middle of.

1968, I was only nine and we were visiting my older sister at UC Berkeley.

Driving on Shattuck Ave in a Ford station wagon, our trip took a turn for the worse.

We drove right into the middle of it. Cops on one side of the street, and student protesters on other.

Police fired tear gas cannisters over our heads on one side. Protesters picked them up and threw them back over our heads on the other side.

And then it got horrible as the groups clashed all around us. The cops were brutal, striking heads with their batons. Kids were falling down all around with blood streaked heads and faces.

A high price to pay for expressing opposition to the war in Vietnam.

By 1978 when I was a college kid, protests had evolved to be a lot less bloody.

Protesting South African racism didn't require risking one's health and safety.

Doonesbury ran a comic about a protest leader talking to the commanding police officer. He was presenting a list of students who were requesting to be arrested.

Ah, but the worst one I got caught in the middle of was at age 25.

Dominican students were protesting the austerity policies being imposed in response to the debt crisis. I was in a taxi, caught in between again.

The cops were not whacking heads with batons. They were firing live rounds from their rifles into the crowd.

Our taxi driver did what appeared impossible, getting off the street on to the sidewalk and getting us out of there in a nick of time.

"The pen is mightier than the sword, but it's no match for a gun."

keepit wrote:
itn,
Try rereading my last post and then formulate a response that makes sense.
And then try not to cause semantic arguments. It makes it sound like you have nothing to say.

Im a BM wrote:
Especially with more details now being revealed about Donald Trump's desire to have the US military use live rounds to fire on BLM protesters.

Im a BM wrote:
We could be just one election away from becoming a "Banana Republic".

Im a BM wrote:
Student protests will continue, one way or another.

Im a BM wrote:
Trust me, our students will be much safer if the Banana Republicans don't get their cult leader back into power.

Im a BM wrote:
There still are a small minority of Republican politicians who are neither Banana Republicans nor Bananas Republicans.

Im a BM wrote:
Banana Republicans = Traditional authoritarian thinking. Voters can't be trusted to make the right choices so we'll choose for them. A Strong Man must rule with an iron fist, or else the uppity classes might rise in revolt.