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21-08-2023 03:33
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HarveyH55 wrote:But, wouldn't it be cool if bacteria could change lead into gold?

I see you've met my bacterium alchemist. He's pictured here with one of my gold molecules.
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21-08-2023 04:16
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:But, wouldn't it be cool if bacteria could change lead into gold?

I see you've met my bacterium alchemist. He's pictured here with one of my gold molecules.


It's called bio heap leaching. Extracting gold deposits from ore.https://www.911metallurgist.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BioHeapLeaching.pdf

I don't think the ores you get lead out of, are usually the same as the ores you get gold out of.

Although the ore called Galena has lead and silver deposits in it.



Edited on 21-08-2023 04:27
21-08-2023 14:56
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:I don't think the ores you get lead out of, are usually the same as the ores you get gold out of.

Gold is very valuable. Lead is not. An alchemist is a mage of legend (i.e. fictional) who could turn lead into gold. The idea of turning things into gold has always been a popular theme in stories, leading to classics such as Rumpelstiltskin and King Midas.

There are no alchemists, and there certainly aren't any bacteria alchemists, which is Harvey's original point, and the reason I made the meme ... well, that and the opportunity to put my gold molecule in Swan's face. It's fun messing with swan.

21-08-2023 20:11
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But, where did the arsenic come into all this? Don't ever remember any reference to methane, other than rantings here. Don't figure it's very healthy for bacteria. Think arsenic was used as rat poison, probably to kill many other pests as well. Though, can't image anyone too concerned about rats in the landfill. Though, polar bears in the landfill could be a problem. Obviously not picky eaters. Just really sad to see those photo-ops, and blamed on all their ice has melted. Wouldn't think ice was nutritious.
RE: at the risk of repeating myself21-08-2023 23:28
Im a BM
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HarveyH55 wrote:
But, where did the arsenic come into all this? Don't ever remember any reference to methane, other than rantings here. Don't figure it's very healthy for bacteria. Think arsenic was used as rat poison, probably to kill many other pests as well. Though, can't image anyone too concerned about rats in the landfill. Though, polar bears in the landfill could be a problem. Obviously not picky eaters. Just really sad to see those photo-ops, and blamed on all their ice has melted. Wouldn't think ice was nutritious.



The arsenic was already there in the soil before anybody drilled a gas well.

It was harmless - bound up mainly as arsenate attached to the surface of iron, manganese, and aluminum (hydr)oxide clay minerals.

The methane was new to the system, and it changed the state of the arsenic.

The methane, leaking from the old gas well, never interacted directly with arsenic. Methane was used by bacteria which oxidized it to get energy. Unfortunately, the best available oxidants were attached to arsenic, as Fe(III) or Mn(IV), or were the arsenic itself, as arsenate or arsenic(V).

The bacteria released the arsenic into solution because methane was available in the absence of oxygen.

Introducing oxygen into the system would reverse the process to take the arsenic out of solution and put the arsenic back into the solid material where it cannot enter ground water.

This is straightforward biogeochemistry, but a person has to study at least a little bit to understand it.
22-08-2023 04:04
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Im a BM wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
But, where did the arsenic come into all this? Don't ever remember any reference to methane, other than rantings here. Don't figure it's very healthy for bacteria. Think arsenic was used as rat poison, probably to kill many other pests as well. Though, can't image anyone too concerned about rats in the landfill. Though, polar bears in the landfill could be a problem. Obviously not picky eaters. Just really sad to see those photo-ops, and blamed on all their ice has melted. Wouldn't think ice was nutritious.



The arsenic was already there in the soil before anybody drilled a gas well.

It was harmless - bound up mainly as arsenate attached to the surface of iron, manganese, and aluminum (hydr)oxide clay minerals.

The methane was new to the system, and it changed the state of the arsenic.

The methane, leaking from the old gas well, never interacted directly with arsenic. Methane was used by bacteria which oxidized it to get energy. Unfortunately, the best available oxidants were attached to arsenic, as Fe(III) or Mn(IV), or were the arsenic itself, as arsenate or arsenic(V).

The bacteria released the arsenic into solution because methane was available in the absence of oxygen.

Introducing oxygen into the system would reverse the process to take the arsenic out of solution and put the arsenic back into the solid material where it cannot enter ground water.

This is straightforward biogeochemistry, but a person has to study at least a little bit to understand it.


Arsenic is a very reactive metal though, and quickly find something else to bond with. The amount of arsenic never increases, it's just which compounds are formed. It'll still find it's way into water.
RE: the sad, final days of Rush's life30-04-2024 21:31
sealover
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sealover wrote:
Rush was a funny guy.

He was a local celebrity here before he went national.

In the fall of 1998, he cited one of my discoveries on his show.

It had just been published in the journal Nature, but it wasn't my big one.

He used it as "proof" to support his assertion.

Humans are not responsible for eutrophication and fish kills in the reservoir.

It's actually Mother Nature's fault.

Rush loved it. It was more proof that he had been right all along.

Rush was a funny guy.

I loved it when he explained how climate change is a hoax.

He even had a graph illustrated with cartoons to prove it.

Mt. Pinatubo had emitted megatons of sun-blocking aerosols.

The earth had cooled for a year.

Rush showed us the scientific proof that global warming was a hoax.


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The final months of Rush Limbaugh's life were sad and tragic.

Shortly after the 2020 election, Rush was APPALLED that Trump was claiming that the election had somehow been "rigged".

In a nearly tearful plea for sanity, he said "You have to have evidence!"

Of course, there wasn't any.

He was smart enough to realize how harmful it was to our nation.

But by January 6, he had been persuaded to come around for the team.

He dutifully referred to the protesters as "patriots".
30-04-2024 22:25
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sealover wrote:
sealover wrote:
Rush was a funny guy.

He was a local celebrity here before he went national.

In the fall of 1998, he cited one of my discoveries on his show.

It had just been published in the journal Nature, but it wasn't my big one.

He used it as "proof" to support his assertion.

Humans are not responsible for eutrophication and fish kills in the reservoir.

It's actually Mother Nature's fault.

Rush loved it. It was more proof that he had been right all along.

Rush was a funny guy.

I loved it when he explained how climate change is a hoax.

He even had a graph illustrated with cartoons to prove it.

Mt. Pinatubo had emitted megatons of sun-blocking aerosols.

The earth had cooled for a year.

Rush showed us the scientific proof that global warming was a hoax.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The final months of Rush Limbaugh's life were sad and tragic.

Shortly after the 2020 election, Rush was APPALLED that Trump was claiming that the election had somehow been "rigged".

In a nearly tearful plea for sanity, he said "You have to have evidence!"

Of course, there wasn't any.

He was smart enough to realize how harmful it was to our nation.

But by January 6, he had been persuaded to come around for the team.

He dutifully referred to the protesters as "patriots".

You don't get to speak for the dead, Sock.


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01-05-2024 05:25
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Into the Night wrote: You don't get to speak for the dead, Sock.

Rarely have I seen someone so bent on revising history, from claiming that thriving coral reefs are somehow dead, to all the rampantly increased "extreme weather" that I somehow missed, to Rush Limbaugh pulling a full-180 and fervently denying his own prediction of stolen elections.*

In Robup's case, he doesn't even seem to be trying to make any kind of coherent point, i.e. he revises history for the sole aim of creating a strawberry snowflake happy-place safe-space refuge in his own mind ... you know, the one in which he's a bioclimatechemist who wields the mighty gamma-spec and saves the tannins and the planet by dispensing geo-justice?



* (note: I beat Rush Limbaugh to the announcement of how the DNC was going to steal the election, which I thereafter posted on Just Plain Politics months before the election, but Rush Limbaugh was right there with me saying the same thing. My pesumption was that Rush Limbaugh was my secret follower who asked "What would IBDaMann say?" Both Rush and I were watching for it on election night and commenting on it heavily as the DNC was counterfeiting votes over the days following the election until, as was no surprise, CNN announced that Biden had somehow edged out Trump's overwhelming lead ... by a hair ... and was thus the actual winner. It is absurd to claim that Rush Limbaugh, after warning the country for months and calling play-by-play during the electo-theft, somehow became an indignant regurgitator of DNC-Marxist disinformation)
RE: science fiction?01-05-2024 22:03
sealover
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Rush Limbaugh loved that we showed humans were being falsely accused of causing eutrophication, hypoxia, and occasional massive fish kills in a reservoir.

But sometimes humans try to blame Mother Nature when it's really our fault.

It doesn't help if an overzealous biogeochemist wants to make their career being the first to show "natural" hexavalent chromium in any groundwater outside of a desert.

Trust me, it wasn't me. My part was ten years earlier.

My job was to use Gamma Spec and Beta Scint to measure radium and strontium 90. And to use x-ray fluorescence to measure lead, mercury, and chromium.

These particular samples didn't come from the radioactive zone. They were from the leaching field by the old septic tank.

They showed very high chromium.

But chromium wasn't an issue. No hexavalent Cr had ever been found in any groundwater samples.

I dutifully reported the numbers. Even took it upon myself to get additional samples from inside the old septic tank and from the leaching field area.

x-ray fluoresesclej... I can't even spell today. XRF showed chromium more than ten times higher in those samples than anywhere else on the site.

x-ray fluorescence is a rapid convenient tool, but it can only see the very surface of soil particles. It picks up atoms in surface coatings on soil particles, but can't see inside the crystal lattice of a rock mineral.

I dutifully reported my findings. A higher up looked into it.

Well, the soil in this area is naturally rich in chromium.

In fact, if the most extreme digestion procedure is used to extract every last atom of chromium, the numbers were similar to what I was getting with XRF.

But XRF doesn't extract every atom. That's why all the other samples showed chromium only a tenth as high. Even though an extreme digestion would have been able to get the same ten times higher number in all.

It was over my head. Nothing to chase here. Besides, there's never been an issue with chromium at the site. They were only testing it because they had to.

Nothing to see here. Don't worry your pretty little head about it.

The XRF was able to see the anthropogenic chromium because it had deposited as the uppermost layer in coatings on soil surfaces.

Ten years later, they finally got their hexavalent chromium in groundwater problem. And it kept getting worse.

And another scientist thought this was so cool because he could prove that naturally occurring hexavalent chromium was being found for the first time in an environment not at the margins of a desert.

And they stuck to their guns. And they "remediated" with calcium polysulfide.

Temporary reduction in hex chrome as the powerful reductant Ca polysulfide turned it back into chromium(III).

The reductant also turned a bunch of Mn(IV) back into Mn(II).

When aerobic conditions were reestablished, the Mn(II) oxidized back to Mn(IV). Some by product Mn(VII), a very powerful oxidant, then oxidized some of the chromium(III) to hexavalent chromium.

Now the groundwater hex chrome was even higher than before they "fixed" it.

But it was "natural". So don't bother checking back up the subsurface flow path from that old septic system. We know it wasn't anthropogenic.

We'll just have to do some more environmental chemotherapy with polysulfide.
01-05-2024 23:37
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sealover wrote: But sometimes humans try to blame Mother Nature when it's really our fault.

That would be you, trying to blame everybody and everything else for your own confusion and your own gaffes.

sealover wrote: It doesn't help if an overzealous biogeochemist wants to make their career being the first to show "natural" hexavalent chromium in any groundwater outside of a desert.

It doesn't help when the pretend-chemist can't even figure out if he's a singular or a plural.
02-05-2024 04:48
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sealover wrote:
Rush Limbaugh loved that we showed humans were being falsely accused of causing eutrophication, hypoxia, and occasional massive fish kills in a reservoir.

You don't get to speak for the dead, Sock.
sealover wrote:
But sometimes humans try to blame Mother Nature when it's really our fault.

Another religion of yours?
sealover wrote:
It doesn't help if an overzealous biogeochemist wants to make their career being the first to show "natural" hexavalent chromium in any groundwater outside of a desert.

No such thing as a biogeochemist.
sealover wrote:
Trust me, it wasn't me. My part was ten years earlier.

I deleted the made up story about yourself.
sealover wrote:
But it was "natural". So don't bother checking back up the subsurface flow path from that old septic system. We know it wasn't anthropogenic.

What is 'anthropogenic'? There is no such word except as a religious artifact. Buzzword ballacy.
sealover wrote:
We'll just have to do some more environmental chemotherapy with polysulfide.

There is no such thing as 'environmental chemotherapy'. Polysulfide is not a chemical.


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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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