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Global Warming 'Hiatus' Is the Climate Change Myth That Refuses to Die


Global Warming 'Hiatus' Is the Climate Change Myth That Refuses to Die16-03-2019 23:15
Tai Hai Chen
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https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/03/09/global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-myth-refuses-die
17-03-2019 10:03
Into the Night
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Define 'climate change'.
17-03-2019 17:50
Laws of Nature
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Hmm, why are the trends of these two measurement set of the global temperature not parallel?
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1980/to:2019/plot/uah6/from:1980/to:2019
If you use the uah6 one it looks a lot more like a hiatus, maybe there is some data bias involved?
My understanding of that "climate hiatus" is, that you are able to put a flat trend line through a valid data set for the global temperature from the year 2000 on.
Seems possible, so your cited article is misleading.
Hmm neither of these curves seem to have error bars..
17-03-2019 18:54
Into the Night
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Laws of Nature wrote:
Hmm, why are the trends of these two measurement set of the global temperature not parallel?

There is no 'trend'. Any temperature reading is instantaneous data. It has nothing to do with predicting any future temperature.
There is no data. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Laws of Nature wrote:
My understanding of that "climate hiatus" is, that you are able to put a flat trend line through a valid data set for the global temperature from the year 2000 on.

There is no 'hiatus'. There is no data.


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17-03-2019 21:23
Wake
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/03/09/global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-myth-refuses-die


It isn't doing what the True Believers thought it would so there must be something wrong with the data and not their ideas.
18-03-2019 17:34
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/03/09/global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-myth-refuses-die


It isn't doing what the True Believers thought it would so there must be something wrong with the data and not their ideas.


What data?


The Parrot Killer
18-03-2019 17:43
IBdaMann
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/03/09/global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-myth-refuses-die


It isn't doing what the True Believers thought it would so there must be something wrong with the data and not their ideas.


What data?

You know ... the data. You can't prove that it doesn't exist.


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18-03-2019 18:04
James___
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Laws of Nature wrote:
Hmm, why are the trends of these two measurement set of the global temperature not parallel?
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1980/to:2019/plot/uah6/from:1980/to:2019
If you use the uah6 one it looks a lot more like a hiatus, maybe there is some data bias involved?
My understanding of that "climate hiatus" is, that you are able to put a flat trend line through a valid data set for the global temperature from the year 2000 on.
Seems possible, so your cited article is misleading.
Hmm neither of these curves seem to have error bars..



You can do that for the time frame from 1946 to 1978. And if you draw a line from 1880 to the next time (1930?) temperatures are that warm, CO2 levels were still rising.
18-03-2019 19:18
Wake
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James___ wrote:
Laws of Nature wrote:
Hmm, why are the trends of these two measurement set of the global temperature not parallel?
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1980/to:2019/plot/uah6/from:1980/to:2019
If you use the uah6 one it looks a lot more like a hiatus, maybe there is some data bias involved?
My understanding of that "climate hiatus" is, that you are able to put a flat trend line through a valid data set for the global temperature from the year 2000 on.
Seems possible, so your cited article is misleading.
Hmm neither of these curves seem to have error bars..



You can do that for the time frame from 1946 to 1978. And if you draw a line from 1880 to the next time (1930?) temperatures are that warm, CO2 levels were still rising.


https://canadafreepress.com/article/fiddling-with-temperature-data
18-03-2019 20:19
Into the Night
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IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/03/09/global-warming-hiatus-climate-change-myth-refuses-die


It isn't doing what the True Believers thought it would so there must be something wrong with the data and not their ideas.


What data?

You know ... the data. You can't prove that it doesn't exist.


So...you are saying that I'm a data atheist? Have you forgotten the Data Mine? It's time once again to remind everyone what my standards of data is based on.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 18-03-2019 20:35
18-03-2019 20:23
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
Laws of Nature wrote:
Hmm, why are the trends of these two measurement set of the global temperature not parallel?
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1980/to:2019/plot/uah6/from:1980/to:2019
If you use the uah6 one it looks a lot more like a hiatus, maybe there is some data bias involved?
My understanding of that "climate hiatus" is, that you are able to put a flat trend line through a valid data set for the global temperature from the year 2000 on.
Seems possible, so your cited article is misleading.
Hmm neither of these curves seem to have error bars..



You can do that for the time frame from 1946 to 1978. And if you draw a line from 1880 to the next time (1930?) temperatures are that warm, CO2 levels were still rising.


There is no global temperature data or any record of the temperature of the United States for 1880, 1930, 1946, 1978, or even today. It's not possible to measure the temperature of either the Earth or even of just the United States.

No one was measuring CO2 levels in 1880, 1930, or 1946. In 1978 we have stations like Mauna Loa, but that is not global atmospheric CO2 concentration. THAT is not possible to measure. We don't have enough stations.


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