RE: banded iron formations03-12-2023 08:53 | |
Im a BM★★★☆☆ (627) |
sealover wrote:duncan61 wrote: |
03-12-2023 09:11 | |
Im a BM★★★☆☆ (627) |
sealover wrote:duncan61 wrote: As I recall, the three oldest banded iron formations have been dated around 3800-3900 million years old. |
RE: pH 8.2, 2300 microequivalents per liter05-12-2023 21:00 | |
Im a BM★★★☆☆ (627) |
Swan wrote:sealover wrote: The term "pH" does not appear in the post anywhere. The response refers ONLY to "PH" and makes no reference to alkalinity. A typical sample of sea water has pH about 8.2, and 2300 microequivalents per liter alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity). One typical liter of sea water can neutralize 2300 microequivalents of acid in an alkalinity titration test. Measuring the pH isn't very revealing, as the depletion of alkalinity only brings about very small change to pH. The term "acidification" is put in quotation marks because the ocean isn't becoming "acidic" at all. The alkalinity is being depleted. Alkalinity is a measurable parameter, but it is NOT pH. Whether or not the pH is greater than 7 or less than 7 does not measure or determine alkalinity. A substance is "alkaline" if the pH is greater than 7. That is very different than alkalinity. The statement "you cannot acidify an alkaline" is meaningless, because "alkaline" is an adjective, not a noun. LOL who taught you to read so well that you could somehow see "PH"? |
05-12-2023 22:09 | |
Swan★★★★★ (5726) |
Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:sealover wrote: How do the millions of gallons of acid pouring into the oceans by natural hydrothermal vents affect the PH of the oceans? Yawn PH PH PH PH PH PH PH PH PH PH IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? It's time to dig up Joseph Mccarthey and show him TikTok, then duck. Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
RE: still available for discussion18-04-2024 05:35 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
sealover wrote: There has been at least a 30% depletion of the ocean's alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity, equivalents per liter). Of particular concern is the reduction in carbonate ion available for shell formation. Potential remediation could employ natural wetlands to increase their alkalinity input. Drained wetlands could be managed to reduce their discharge of sulfuric acid, and increase discharge of alkalinity in submarine groundwater discharge. Submerged wetlands could be managed to become a major source of new alkalinity (carbonate and bicarbonate ions) entering the sea. |
20-04-2024 00:23 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: Climate cannot change. There is nothing to 'mitigate'. sealover wrote: What atmospheric concentrations of carbon? Carbon is a solid. sealover wrote: Fossils aren't used as fuel. sealover wrote: It is not possible to acidify an alkaline. sealover wrote: Silt and sediments flow the sea naturally. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance or chemical. sealover wrote: Carbon isn't alkaline. Carbon isn't organic. Neither is carbon dioxide. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance or chemical. sealover wrote: It is not possible to measure the pH of the oceans. sealover wrote: Shells aren't made of any carbonate. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance or a chemical. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance nor a chemical. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance nor a chemical. There is no such thing as Terraforming (other than a piece of software), moron. You've been watching too many science fiction shows. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 20-04-2024 00:55 |
RE: thread topic reminder28-04-2024 00:11 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
sealover wrote: The noun "alkalinity" has almost nothing to do with the adjective "alkaline". "Alkaline" describes a substance with pH greater than 7. "Alkalinity" is a measurable parameter that quantifies acid neutralizing capacity. Alkalinity is reported either as moles per liter of hydrogen ion that can be neutralized by the solution, or as grams or milligrams calcium carbon equivalents per liter. A mole of calcium carbonate weighs 100 grams and can neutralize 2 moles of hydrogen ion. The conversion factor for the two different units is 50. A pH 6 citrate buffer is not "alkaline", but has MUCH higher alkalinity than a solution of sodium hydroxide at pH 8, which IS "alkaline". A common misconception is that pH and alkalinity are somehow the same thing. |
28-04-2024 01:20 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14477) |
sealover wrote: The noun "alkalinity" has almost nothing to do with the adjective "alkaline". "Alkaline" describes a substance with pH greater than 7. I remember this discussion the first time you presented it. You had a total meltdown when I asked you a clarification question. Instead of answering my question, you simply redoubled your efforts to belittle me for asking a question. Let's rehash what happened: sealover wrote: "Alkalinity" is a measurable parameter that quantifies acid neutralizing capacity. Is "acidity" a measurable parameter that quantifies alkaline-neutralizing capacity? This is where you totally lost it last time. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is reported either as moles per liter of hydrogen ion that can be neutralized by the solution, or as grams or milligrams calcium carbon equivalents per liter. How is acidity reported? |
29-04-2024 00:01 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: Climate cannot change. sealover wrote: Carbon is not carbon dioxide. sealover wrote: Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn. sealover wrote: An acid is not an alkaline. Ocean water is not acidic. sealover wrote: Buzzword fallacy. There is no such thing as 'environmental chemotherapy' except as a religious artifact. sealover wrote: No need. Nature does it for you. Define what is 'required'. Buzzword fallacy. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance. Buzzword fallacy. sealover wrote: Oxidation is not reduction. sealover wrote: Oxidation is not reduction. sealover wrote: Carbon is not organic. sealover wrote: No such word except as a religious artifact. Alkalinity is not a substance. sealover wrote: There is nothing wrong with carbon dioxide. It is absolutely essential for life to exist on Earth. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance. Carbon is not organic. Oxidation is not reduction. Buzzword fallacies. sealover wrote: No such noun. sealover wrote: So? sealover wrote: No such 'parameter' or quantity called 'alkalinity'. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance. It has no weight. sealover wrote: An acid is not an alkaline. sealover wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance or a valid word. Buzzword fallacy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
RE: 21624 posts.29-04-2024 04:38 | |
Im a BM★★★☆☆ (627) |
21624 posts. Are they ALL as good as this one? Nobody ever seems to respond to them. So let me be one of the very few who actually reads one of your posts and responds to it. "Climate cannot change" Tell that to the climate. And try to convince people not to believe their own lying eyes as they see extreme weather events become more and more frequent. "Carbon is not carbon dioxide" Perhaps you should read more. "Carbon footprint" is not a reference to carbon as an element. "Carbon neutral" is not either. Indeed, it is quite common to reference carbon dioxide as simply "carbon". "Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn" Is it possible that you really don't know what the term "fossil fuel" means? "An acid is not an alkaline. Ocean water is not acidic." Actually, NOTHING is "an alkaline". Alkaline is not a noun. I don't see what this is a response to. Is somebody claiming that ocean water is acidic? Too many stupid claims to respond to so I'll just select a few more. "Alkalinity is not a substance." Repeated multiple times. No, it is not. However, aqueous solutions are substances that almost always have some alkalinity. "Oxidation is not reduction." Said repeatedly. A truly brilliant insight... to counter which claim? Was something said that could be interpreted to imply that oxidation IS reduction? "Carbon is not organic." Repeatedly said. Most of the world's carbon is, in fact, inorganic. A chemistry textbook, if you knew how to read one, would explain to you that carbon in chemically oxidized form (carbon dioxide, bicarbonate ion, carbonate ion) is defined as "inorganic carbon". On the other hand, while it is less than half the total carbon in the world, there is a whole lot of organic carbon out there. An organic chemistry textbook, if you knew how to read one, would explain to you that carbon in chemically reduced form is defined as "organic carbon" Are you sure that your company doesn't sell "organic carbon" analyzers? "No such 'parameter' or quantity called 'alkalinity'." Perhaps you should learn to read. In the US, it is reported as milligrams per liter calcium carbonate equivalents. I have authored many water quality reports where we paid a lab to measure this non existent parameter. We had to get it speciated as well. So we had four numbers to work with. Total alkalinity = acid neutralizing capacity from all contributing oxyanions. Hydroxide alkalinity = that tiny fraction of total alkalinity arising from hydroxide ions Bicarbonate alkalinity = usually the lion's share of total alkalinity, it is the acid neutralizing capacity arising from bicarbonate ions. HCO3- + H+ = H2CO3 Carbonate alkalinity = that part of total acid neutralizing capacity arising from carbonate ions. CO3(2-) + H+ = HCO3- (one proton neutralized) and then HCO3- + H+ = H2CO3 (a second proton neutralized) It has been long known that other oxyanions such as phosphate, silicate, borate, and many other oxyanions contribute to acid neutralizing capacity. But they are so much less than 1% of the total that they are ignored. On the other hand, water chemists now deeply regret that they didn't take organic alkalinity seriously enough. Organic oxyanions, such as citrate, turn out to be a significant contributor to total alkalinity in many waters. "Alkalinity is not a substance. It has no weight." Actually, the oxyanions that contribute alkalinity ALL have some weight. "An acid is not an alkaline." The same meaningless sentence as before. NOTHING is "an alkaline" "Alkalinity is not a substance or a valid word" I guess you will have to rewrite the chemistry textbooks AND the dictionary, because they are under the impression that is IS a valid word. I'm sure that there will be a very lengthy response to this, but this is the last time I will bother responding to or even reading another parrot poop post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Into the Night wrote:sealover wrote: |
29-04-2024 06:33 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14477) |
Im a BM wrote: "Climate cannot change" Tell that to the climate. Brilliant! "There is no Bigfoot." "Tell that to Bigfoot." You're a genius. Im a BM wrote: And try to convince people not to believe their own lying eyes as they see extreme weather events become more and more frequent. Brilliant! Convince people to trust you that they really are seeing what they are not seeing, especially as they fail to see increases of the totally undefined. You're a genius. Im a BM wrote: "Carbon footprint" is not a reference to carbon as an element. "Carbon footprint" is not a reference to anything real. We could go on all day about all the things to which "carbon footprint" is not a reference while you avoid altogether any unambiguous definition thereof. Perhaps we're talking about the Carbon Bigfoot with its carbon footprint. Im a BM wrote: "Carbon neutral" is not either. Correct. It's not even a term in chemistry, so I wouldn't expect you to know that. Im a BM wrote: Indeed, it is quite common to reference carbon dioxide as simply "carbon". Correct. It's entirely common for scientifically illiterate laymen to equivocate egregiously, such as referring to CO2 as simply C, or referring to hydrocarbons as fossils ... or as fuel for fossils. Again, I wouldn't expect you to understand why such errors are heinous. Since you are a layman, I can understand why you don't know the definition of acidity. I do think it's cute the way you try to play along, though. We're an inclusive group here and we want you to "participate." Im a BM wrote: Actually, NOTHING is "an alkaline". Alkaline is not a noun. Actually, there is NO LANGUANGE "Spanish." Spanish is not a noun. Actually, NOBODY is a "homosexual." Homosexual is not a noun. Actually, NOBODY is a "Christian." Christian is not a noun. Actually, NOTHING is a "painting." Painting is not a noun. Im a BM wrote: I don't see what this is a response to. Is somebody claiming that ocean water is acidic? Nope. Not only will you not respond to clarification questions, you refuse to learn to read so that you won't inadvertently answer any questions directed your way. Otherwise, it was too easy and straightforward. Im a BM wrote: "Carbon is not organic." Repeatedly said. Most of the world's carbon is, in fact, inorganic. More gibberish you just pulled out of your ass. This is where you pull the rug out from under yourself. Elements are elements and are neither organic nor inorganic. I shouldn't have to be teaching you this. Compounds, yes, can be either organic or inorganic, but elements cannot. Im a BM wrote: A chemistry textbook, if you knew how to read one, would explain to you that carbon in chemically oxidized form (carbon dioxide, bicarbonate ion, carbonate ion) is defined as "inorganic carbon". A chemistry textbook, if you knew how to read one, would explain to you that neither "organic carbon" nor "inorganic carbon" is even a term in chemistry. I have my textbook open coincidentally and you'll be happy to know that I can read it. Nope, there is no such term, as I already knew. Did you read that term on Wikipedia? Why, yes you did. Right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_organic_carbon Shame on you! Actual scientists don't go frantically looking up terms on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a non-authoritative source that is error-filled. You screwed the pooch on that one. Im a BM wrote: An organic chemistry textbook, if you knew how to read one, would explain to you that carbon in chemically reduced form is defined as "organic carbon" Again, the term "organic carbon" doesn't even appear, because it's not a thing. "Reduction" is oxidation reduction. While I suppose that a substance could potentially be reduced to mere carbon, the correct wording would be "reduced to carbon," not "organic carbon." Do you have some examples of what you're talking about? Im a BM wrote: Are you sure that your company doesn't sell "organic carbon" analyzers? I believe Into the Night is looking at opening a new line of gamma specs. He tried making some for inorganic carbon, but found that there isn't any. Im a BM wrote: In the US, it is reported as milligrams per liter calcium carbonate equivalents. I have authored many water quality reports where we paid a lab to measure this non existent parameter. Please post a few of these reports that you authored. [hint: we already know your name][hint: shouldn't you be bitching right about now about how you doxxed yourself?] Im a BM wrote: Total alkalinity = acid neutralizing capacity from all contributing oxyanions. Good stuff. When you aren't vomitting climate gibberbabble, you sometimes actually get to something value-added. Well done. Im a BM wrote: On the other hand, water chemists now deeply regret that they didn't take organic alkalinity seriously enough. What makes you say that? |
29-04-2024 09:01 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
Im a BM wrote: So you are a nobody. You just called yourself one. I agree. Im a BM wrote: Okay, Nobody. Im a BM wrote: Climate has no ears. It cannot hear me or you. Im a BM wrote: Weather is not climate. Define 'extreme weather'. You cannot measure what you cannot define. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not carbon dioxide. Im a BM wrote: Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn. No fossils are used as fuel. Im a BM wrote: Alkaline is a noun. Im a BM wrote: YOU ARE. Im a BM wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance. Im a BM wrote: YOU said it. Don't try to deny your own posts. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Chemistry is not a textbook. Carbon is not carbon dioxide. It is not any carbonate. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not chemically reduced. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Fiction won't help you. There is no such thing as 'alkalinity'. Buzzword fallacy. Im a BM wrote: There is no such thing as 'organic alkalinity'. Alkalinity is not a substance. Im a BM wrote: No such thing as alkalinity. There is no such chemical as an 'organic oxyanion' or 'citrate'. Im a BM wrote: Alkalinity is not a substance. It has no weight. Im a BM wrote: There are quite a few alkali, just as there are quite a few acids. Im a BM wrote: Omniscience fallacy. False authority fallacy. Dictionaries do not define any word. You don't get to quote every dictionary or textbook. Chemistry is not a dictionary nor a textbook. Im a BM wrote: Bulverism fallacy...and a lie. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
RE: 1st post of thread01-05-2024 22:10 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
Even under the best-case climate change mitigation scenarios, atmospheric concentrations of carbon will only gradually decline. Even if we cease all fossil fuel combustion tomorrow, ocean "acidification" (i.e. depletion of alkalinity) would continue to get worse for decades to come. Direct human intervention to perform environmental chemotherapy and provide exogenous alkalinity to the sea by ourselves, dumping gigatons of lime or grinding up gigatons of rocks to transport and distribute to the sea is a non-starter. It is simply not humanly possible to provide the quantities required. Coastal wetlands are the major source of new alkalinity entering many marine ecosystems, as submarine groundwater discharge. Under the low oxygen conditions of wetland soil, bacteria use sulfate as oxidant to oxidize organic carbon and acquire energy. Sulfate reduction by bacteria generates inorganic carbon alkalinity rather than carbon dioxide as the oxidized carbon product. If anyone is curious, there are three distinctly different geoengineering approaches that could be applied to increase the generation of alkalinity for the sea through oxidation of wetland sediment organic carbon via microbial sulfate reduction |
RE: 2nd post of thread01-05-2024 22:11 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
One geoengineering approach to enable wetlands to generate and discharge alkalinity to the ocean is simply to better manage them. Rising sea level and drainage for agriculture has greatly decreased the output of alkalinity from coastal wetlands. As sea level rises, the distance between low tide and ground surface elevation is reduced. There is now less hydraulic gradient during the drainage phase to drive sulfate into low oxygen, organic carbon rich sediments. Tidal pumping is no longer as effective as it used to be to extract alkalinity from coastal wetlands. Once the rising sea level completely submerges the coastal wetland, there is no longer any hydraulic gradient or tidal pumping at all to allow sulfate to enter the low oxygen, carbon rich sediment. When wetlands are drained for agriculture the hydraulic gradient completely shifts. Water is continuously drained from the topsoil into deep drainage ditches, then pumped uphill into adjacent surface water. The elevation of the recharge water is higher than the water table in the field below the aerobic topsoil. There is upward pressure from recharge water pushing groundwater up toward the drained topsoil, to then be intercepted, drained off, and pumped up to the river. When wetland soils are drained, buried pyrite is exposed to oxygen. Sulfur oxidizing bacteria then generate sulfuric acid. These "acid sulfate soils" develop very low pH. They also export a lot of acidity, salinity, and dissolved organic matter to surface waters. Wetlands that previously generated alkalinity for the sea as groundwater discharge now export sulfuric-acid-enriched drainage to surface water. |
RE: 3rd post of thread01-05-2024 22:12 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
One geoengineering approach to use coastal wetlands to generate alkalinity for the sea would also sequester atmospheric carbon dioxide. Coastal deserts could be farmed for alkalinity by pumping sea water into them. Constructed wetlands have been employed for more than 50 years to neutralize acid mine drainage. Constructed saltwater wetlands could use the same biogeochemical mechanisms to neutralize ocean acidification. It could be as simple as a low earthen dam across a dry river outlet. Wind-driven or sea-wave powered pumps could give sea water the slight lift uphill. As the water drains back to the sea, it carries the alkalinity acquired from sulfate reduction in the low oxygen sediment. Continuous pumping of sea water in would balance with continuous drainage and evaporation to establish a steady state of hypersalinity in the constructed, upland saltwater wetland. A high enough rate of continuous sea water input could establish a steady state of only slightly elevated salinity, tolerable for aquaculture. The resources are already available on site at little or no cost. Unproductive land could be transformed into a sink to sequester atmospheric carbon dioxide, as well as a source of new alkalinity for the sea. |
RE: 4th post of thread01-05-2024 22:13 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
Geoengineering to acquire alkalinity for the sea from carbon stored in wetlands can be done offshore. The waterlogged, low oxygen soil conditions of wetlands prevent aerobic oxidation of organic matter by micro organisms. Dead organic matter in the wetland soil has centuries long residence time. Centuries of peat accumulation and carbon rich sediment can pile up to great depth. Rising sea level has submerged large areas of coastal wetlands. These submerged lands no longer support wetland photosynthesis to sequester carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. They no longer pile up new organic matter. They no longer discharge alkalinity to the sea from groundwater flows. However, these areas are still an enormous reservoir of organic carbon stored in shallow sediments just below the surface of the sea. These deposits of pre-fossil fuel (i.e. wetland soil carbon not yet transformed by the earth into coal) contain many, many gigatons of stored organic carbon. Offshore drilling of these pre-fossil fuel deposits could enable their exploitation as a nearly limitless source of alkalinity for the sea. Sea water could be pumped into the underlying sediments under pressure. This will drive sulfate in to the low oxygen, carbon rich sediment. Sulfate reduction will generate alkalinity which would be driven out into the sea as submarine groundwater discharge to marine ecosystems. Sufficient alkalinity for the sea could be generated long before the pre-fossil fuel runs out. |
01-05-2024 23:32 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14477) |
sealover wrote: Geoengineering to acquire alkalinity for the sea from carbon stored in wetlands can be done offshore. Great news! The ocean requires no additional alkalinity. sealover wrote: The waterlogged, low oxygen soil conditions of wetlands prevent aerobic oxidation of organic matter by micro organisms. Cry me a fuqqing river. sealover wrote: Dead organic matter in the wetland soil has centuries long residence time. Centuries of peat accumulation and carbon rich sediment can pile up to great depth. Why should anyone believe this? sealover wrote: Rising sea level has submerged large areas of coastal wetlands. Photgraphic evidence clearly shows that the ocean hasn't risen to any discernible extent since 1890, and physics precludes any rational adult from believing that the ocean ever rose to any discernible extent before that. sealover wrote: These submerged lands no longer support wetland photosynthesis to sequester carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Since they were always submerged, they never supported wetland photosynthesis in the first place. [b] These deposits of pre-fossil fuel (i.e. wetland soil carbon not yet transformed by the earth into coal) contain many, many gigatons of stored organic carbon. The notion that you are some sort of chemist is absurd. |
02-05-2024 04:58 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: Climate cannot change. What is the atmospheric concentration of carbon? sealover wrote: Fossils don't burn. They are not used as fuel. sealover wrote: You cannot acidify an alkaline. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: Your meaningless buzzwords will get worse? sealover wrote: There is no such thing as 'environmental chemotherapy'. The environment is not a cancer. sealover wrote: No such word as 'exogenous alkalinity'. sealover wrote: Ocean water is already alkaline. sealover wrote: Ocean water is already alkaline. sealover wrote: Sulfate is not an oxidant. Sulfate is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Carbon is not organic. sealover wrote: TANSTAAFL. You cannot create energy out of nothing. sealover wrote: You cannot reduce 'sulfate'. It is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Carbon is not organic. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing. sealover wrote: No such thing. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: The oceans are already alkaline. sealover wrote: Carbon is not organic. sealover wrote: You cannot reduce sulfate. Sulfate is not a chemical. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
02-05-2024 05:09 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: The ocean is already alkaline. sealover wrote: What 'rising sea level'? It is not possible to measure the global sea level. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: It is not possible to measure global sea level. sealover wrote: There is no uniform 'ground surface elevation'. sealover wrote: Sulfate is not a chemical. Carbon is not organic. You cannot claim high and low oxygen in the same place at the same time. You are still locked in that paradox. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: It is not possible to measure the global sea level. sealover wrote: Nothing is getting submerged. sealover wrote: Sulfate is not a chemical. You are still locked in that paradox. sealover wrote: An acid is not a salt. Exporting to yourself is not possible. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: You cannot export anything to yourself. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
02-05-2024 05:14 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: No such word. sealover wrote: The ocean is already alkaline. sealover wrote: Why would you want to do that? sealover wrote: No such word. Coastal deserts are already exposed to sea water. That's what 'coastal' means! sealover wrote: What 'acid mine drainage'? sealover wrote: You cannot acidify an alkaline. There is no such word as biogeochemical. Alkali are not a salt. Acids are not a salt. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
RE: no shortage of sulfate in sea water02-05-2024 08:26 | |
Im a BM★★★☆☆ (627) |
Hopefully, it does not cause too much confusion that "sea water" and "sulfate" are interchangeable as a name for the input of sulfate bearing sea water into low oxygen wetland sediment. Sea water contains from 2650-2690 ppm sulfate. In contrast, sea water contains from 8-11 ppm oxygen. The energy yield for microorganisms who make their living oxidizing organic carbon is greatest when oxygen is used as oxidant (aerobic respiration). Aerobic respiration of (reduced) organic carbon generates carbon dioxide as the (oxidized) inorganic carbon product. Much lower energy yield is acquired when sulfate is used by bacteria to oxidize organic carbon. Sulfate reduction generates alkalinity as the (oxidized) inorganic carbon product. At only 8-11 ppm, oxygen gets depleted very quickly in carbon rich sediment. With 2650-2950 ppm sulfate remaining when the oxygen runs out, the next best available oxidant is most abundant, albeit for a much smaller energy yield. One mole of organic carbon generates two moles of alkalinity when sulfate is used as oxidant by sulfate reducing bacteria. -------------------------------------------------------- Again, "alkalinity" refers to the bicarbonate ion or carbonate ion generated during microbial sulfate reduction under low oxygen conditions of wetland sediment. Whereas aerobic respiration of, say methane, generates carbon dioxide and water CH4 + 2O2 = CO2 + 2H2O Anaerobic oxidation of methane by sulfate reducing bacteria generates hydrogen sulfide, and alkalinity CH4 + SO4(2-) = H2S + CO3(2-) + H2O |
02-05-2024 10:18 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
Im a BM wrote: Sea water is not sulfate. Sulfate is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: Sulfate is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: Sulfate is not a chemical. Argument from randU fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Argument from randU fallacy. It is not possible to measure the oxygen level of the oceans. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Carbon is not reduced. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not carbon dioxide. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Sulfate is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: Sulfate cannot be reduced. It is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: No such word. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Argument from randU fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Alkalinity is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: Sulfate cannot be reduced. It is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: No such word. Im a BM wrote: My furnace does that easily without any bacteria. Im a BM wrote: Sulfate cannot be reduced. It is not a chemical. Alkalinity is not a chemical. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
RE: "Sulfate is not a chemical"02-05-2024 18:17 | |
sealover★★★★☆ (1333) |
"Seawater is not sulfate. Sulfate is not a chemical. Sulfate is not a chemical.." I'm glad we got THAT straightened out. Let's continue the list. Water is not nitrogen. Whales are not fish. This could take all day. So many things are NOT something else. ITN is NOT a scientist. ----------------------------------------------------- Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
02-05-2024 20:06 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14477) |
sealover wrote: So many things are NOT something else. Oh, oh, pick me! Pick me! Global Warming is not defined and is not science. Climate Change is not defined and is not science. Greenhouse gas is not defined and is not science. Logarithmic is not Exponential. Dominican coral reefs are not dead. CO2 is not C Phosphorous is not phosphate. The ocean is not alkalinity-deficient. Black is not white. Science is not credentials. Science is not a paper or a study. Science is not owned by any person, government or institution. Science is not determined by consensus or voting bloc. IBDaMann is not the Alpha and the Omega. IBDaMann is NOT funny. Censorship is never a good thing (except for IBDaMann's posts). Electric vehicles are not more fuel efficient than internal combustion engines. Solar panels are not "maintenance free." The US "Civil War" was not fought over slavery. One dollar plus one dollar is not one dollar. Hamas is not Al Qassam; Al Qassam is not the military wing of Hamas. wrt the IDF, there is no such thing as "hiding behind Arab human shields." GasGuzzler is not the master of bacon-wrapped honey-bourbon barbecue wings. A protest in Washington DC is not an insurrection. Violence on the part of DNC operatives and tyranny on the part of the Federal government is not criminal activity on the part of We the People. Fossils are not fuel. Fossils do not require fuel. keepit is not correct (it doesn't seem to matter what topic). ... let me know if you need more. |
02-05-2024 20:25 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21701) |
sealover wrote: You cannot project YOUR problems on to anybody else. You are not discussing any theory of science. Science is not buzzwords. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
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