10-06-2021 11:55 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Xadoman wrote: |
10-06-2021 17:29 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Let's talk about Safemoon for a moment, shall we? Xadoman wrote:Safemoon is also audited by CERTIK. It is clean as a whistle. You used the word "clean." Hmmmm. You used the words "clean as a whistle" and not "secure as a fortress." Clearly you are under the mistaken impression that a legion of accountants and financial experts have checked the Safemoon books and found the organization to be deserving of the Better Business seal of approval. Clearly you are not aware that CERTIK only sent in a legion of white hat ethical hackers to verify the security of their trading platform and nothing more. It was a technical audit, not a financial audit. You used the word "clean" when you should have used the word "secure." Somebody is riding high on insidious disinformation. You were given a "hot tip" to hurry and get into Safemoon, and you totally ignored the 59th rule of acquisition: "Free advice is seldom cheap." Get yourself a shirt for future reference. Edited on 10-06-2021 17:54 |
12-06-2021 00:52 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHtlcu1zJR4&ab_channel=SafeMoonMark "I'm ready to take on anyone." - Safemoon Mark, 2021 Are you ready for him, IbdaMann? |
12-06-2021 05:53 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman wrote:"I'm ready to take on anyone." - Safemoon Mark, 2021 Xadoman, are you ready to play "Simon Says"? Simon is a professional blockchain, cryptocurrency and tech journalist, regular contributor to Cryptonews.com, who is writing in depth analysis about the latest developments in the cryptocurrency and blockchain space. He's written for Wired, the Daily Dot, and TechCrunch, and aside from cryptocurrency and the blockchain he's interested in AI, VR, social media, and how technology changes society. He's based in London. Simon Says: Xadoman ... are you pitching Safemoon only because of your conflict of interest? |
12-06-2021 06:35 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman wrote:Safemoon is also audited by CERTIK. It is clean as a whistle. Although CERTIK is a security audit, their findings offer big clues as to the intentions of Safemoon board: CertiK says that over time, the owner address will accumulate a significant portion of the liquidity pool tokens. Since the owner is an externally owned account (EOA), CertiK says the entire project could face "big consequences." CertiK notes that the owner address currently stands to accumulate a portion of the liquidity pool, this means that the owner address would be collecting a portion of the forfeit tokens. Although CertiK recommends restricting management permissions of the liquidity pool tokens, Safemoon directors have no intention of implementing any of CertiK's audit recommendations . CertiK also strongly recommended SafeMoon adopt smart contract-based accounts with features like multi-signature wallets. These are wallets that require two or more keys to sign and send transactions. CertiK says that SafeMoon could introduce a DAO/governance/voting module to make the process more transparent and less risky. SafeMoon directors rejected this idea outright. |
12-06-2021 07:45 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago.There is no relationship between a roulette wheel in a casino and trading cryptocurrency.If someone wants to invest money in trading why not.Its their money if its not your thing dont do it.I trade on plus 500 and just look at how stocks have performed and if they are down but usually at a higher level.I will buy a small amount and close out once there is a profit.oil and silver a fairly reliable and I have done USD to GBP and made a quick $600 in the time I caught the train to getting off about 45 mins.I met a Canadian girl while working at a tourist place in Shark Bay and she had come to Australia and worked as production manager on home and away in Victoria in the 3 years she was there she renovated a small townhouse and sold it and ended up with $330K so she put the lot in to a trading platform and hit the road.When the bus she travelled in did a gearbox she pulled 7K out to pay for it simple as.Every morning between 9 and 11 she would do trading .One morning she cleared $1850 which was more than I was paid a month.We hung out for a few months and she was a very cool person to be around.She went inland and I went south to Overlander roadhouse and I never saw her again.She had 3 passports as well.One seriously organised chick |
12-06-2021 08:13 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
duncan61 wrote:My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago. He gambled and he won. Good for him. duncan61 wrote:There is no relationship between a roulette wheel in a casino and trading cryptocurrency. ... except that they are identical. The only difference is the odds. duncan61 wrote:If someone wants to invest money in trading why not. You mean to ask if someone wants to gamble with their own money, why not? I give up, why not? duncan61 wrote:Its their money if its not your thing dont do it Well said. duncan61 wrote:I trade on plus 500 and just look at how stocks have performed and if they are down but usually at a higher level. What does owning a piece of a company have to do with gambling on cryptocurrency? duncan61 wrote: I will buy a small amount and close out once there is a profit.oil and silver a fairly reliable and I have done USD to GBP and made a quick $600 in the time I caught the train to getting off about 45 mins. You should probably learn the difference between investing and gambling first before continuing to confuse the two. You don't make much sense jumping back and forth between the two as if they are the same thing. If you mean to say that you never lose anytime that you gamble then you should certainly gamble all of your money every day. duncan61 wrote:I met a Canadian girl while working at a tourist place in Shark Bay ... Every morning between 9 and 11 she would do trading She was a day trader. Most cease day trading after a while once they have a really bad day and lose everything. It just takes one really bad day. duncan61 wrote:.One morning she cleared $1850 Let me guess. She never told you about the times that she lost money. Am I right? duncan61 wrote:... I never saw her again. ... so you don't know if she eventually had her really bad day and lost everything. |
12-06-2021 08:54 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
Its called contracts for difference or CFD and it is piggyacking on the stock market.You do not own the stocks.At our local casino my favorite game is casino wars where you place a bet and highest card wins.You can bet on getting the same card and it pays 30-1 if it is the same suit.I have done quite well and have a good night out and go home with a few hundred spare.That is gambling and depending on how many are playing at the table it can go fast.There is about 8-10 seats but when its busy other people can lean over and bet on your stack.Studying the direction Oil is going and doing CFD bears no resemblance to a card being drawn every few minutes |
12-06-2021 08:59 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
I will agree that bitcoin is volatile.My son sold out in April when it was 80K and now it is 45K so there is a bit of gambling going on |
12-06-2021 18:33 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
https://www.safemoonmark.com/ He made a quick web page. He is a computer guy and very good in math. IbdaMann, you should check it out. |
12-06-2021 19:06 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
Investments are almost always about putting money into something tangible. Crypto, is only a token, a marker, that accounts for how many times you are entered, to play the game. You buy and sell tokens, nothing tangible. The value of your tokens, are worth only as much as someone else is willing to pay for them. Nobody wants to buy them, they are completely worthless. The use as actually currency is kind of sketchy, more of a marketing scheme. The transaction fees are pretty high, so not really going to be a thing, other than to show off, or for those with no other option. The price of tokens can be manipulated, to give the appearance that it's a good buy. |
12-06-2021 20:14 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
HarveyH55 wrote:Investments are almost always about putting money into something tangible. Harvey, you are wise. The word "investment" has been totally bastardized and butchered by many people who mistakenly equate it with "savings" and with gambling but who want to sound "financial" and economically savvy. An investment is the opposite of a divestiture. By definition, an investment is a purchase or an expense (i.e. you lose that amount of wealth/capital) for ownership of an (expected) income stream. This is not gambling nor is it simply converting some liquid assets into other liquid assets (i.e. savings). Purchasing stock (i.e. ownership of a company) because you expect the stock to provide an income stream is a bona fide investment whereas purchasing stock simply because you expect the stock price to increase is simply speculation and is gambling (i.e. not investing). Conversely, many people claim that they "invest" a certain amount of their paycheck each month into a money market fund ... but this is simply savings and is not an investment. The most common bona fide investments are accomplished every day by businesses when they purchase equipment for the business. These purchases are made specifically with the expectation of developing/increasing the income produced by the business, not because of any expectation that the equipment will somehow increase in value (i.e. speculation). HarveyH55 wrote: Crypto, is only a token, a marker, that accounts for how many times you are entered, to play the game. Harvey, you are wise. I might have mentioned this. A crypto token is identical to a casino chip ... and it enables the possessor to play in the game. HarveyH55 wrote: The use as actually currency is kind of sketchy, more of a marketing scheme. Correct. Imagine a "currency" that is strangely not intended to facilitate the purchase of goods and services but rather is intended to emulate speculative non-liquid goods. Do you see a bit of a counterproductive contradiction there? Do you detect a hint of a conflict of interest on the part of the owners of the "currency" ? HarveyH55 wrote: The price of tokens can be manipulated, to give the appearance that it's a good buy. Harvey, I should mention that you are wise. One of the things I learned about cryptocurrency is that any "whale" (major holder thereof) can directly and substantially shift the price in any desired direction in the short term simply through selling or buying a large share. A whale can make a large purchase at the current market value and all the tech-journalists will cover the "story" and will pretend that they are reporting a "hot tip." This causes all the mindless lemmings of the world who base their decisions on whatever the whales do to create a self-fulfilling prophecy of driving the price up and up ... at which point the whale sells his previously purchased tokens at the new higher price, realizing a substantial profit that he created by simply purchasing the tokens in the first place. His resulting sale of tokens, which realizes a hefty profit, causes the tech-journalists to report the "imminent price drop" signalled by the whale's sale, causing many lemmings to dump what they have, driving the price down, down, down ... at which point the whale makes another large purchase at the new low market price. ... and the cycle simply repeats. Just follow the "news" about any cryptocurrency and notice how most of it is simply a reporting on what whales project will happen to the price and what the whales either buy or sell. Notice how Xadoman falls into the lemming category. All of his decisions are based on absolute faith in what the whales say ... or at least in what the tech-journalists claim that the whales say. |
12-06-2021 20:39 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman wrote: This is a misinformation site. This guy might be good at math but he certainly sucks at economics and finance and investing. Notice the coverage of "burned" tokens. Safemoon doesn't burn any tokens. Notice the "ROI Gained Today." Safemoon as a currency has no ROI. One has to be totally financially inept to fall for this line. Notice the "Roadmap" of good-sounding "nice-to-dos" instead of any Statement of Work which spells out what must be performed under contract. Since Safemoon directors are under absolutely no obligation to do any of these things we can presume that there is no intention to accomplish any of the big-ticket items. Notice the "Weekly Giveaway" of 10,000,000 Safemoon! Yesssss! Notice that it amounts to a whopping ... ummm ... just under $37. Notice that there is nothing on this website that instills any confidence in Safemoon beyond playing on the gullibility of lemmings with excellent gibber-babble. ... but thank you for pointing out this site to me. I don't need to see it anymore. [img]https://media.giphy.com/media/i3RASkXNKtQe7V5M4B/giphy.gif [/img] |
13-06-2021 01:41 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21828) |
IBdaMann wrote:Xadoman wrote: In digital currency, a 'burned' coin is one that is lost and not available anymore (locked in someone's wallet and they forgot the password to it). The coin still exists, but it is no longer in circulation and probably never will be. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
13-06-2021 02:31 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Into the Night wrote:In digital currency, a 'burned' coin is one that is lost and not available anymore (locked in someone's wallet and they forgot the password to it). Correct. ... and in Safemoon, no tokens are ever burned. Instead, they go into the Safemoon directors' wallet to which the directors have the key. The directors then convert those tokens to a different cryptocurrency that will still have value when Safemoon collapses. If you read the extremely cheesy and overly skimpy joke of a Safemoon white paper, you'll notice that no legal/contractual information is provided, only lame marketing spin as to why everything about Safemoon needs to appear as a scam "for the investors' protection." It's totally obvious that Safemoon directors are preying on the exceedingly gullible. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
13-06-2021 08:47 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
I have just had a discussion with my wife and I was wrong.Cryptocurrency is gambling.Buying silver or gold is not. |
13-06-2021 18:56 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
duncan61 wrote: The price of precious metals are manipulated, often. But they will always retain value, as the metals have commercial uses. There will always be buyers, who will pay what they have to, to stay in production. Nobody wants or needs your crypto tokens, other than to play the game. You'll hang on to them, until you need to cash in, which you are stuck with what someone is willing to pay for them. Should be obvious, that pretty much anyone can setup their own coin, and get people to play the game. We know that people are greedy, and willing to rig games, or figure ways to cheat. Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well. |
14-06-2021 05:25 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21828) |
duncan61 wrote: Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth. Over time, however, both have been a good bet. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 14-06-2021 05:26 |
14-06-2021 05:56 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Into the Night wrote:Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth. Specifically, precious metals is a hedge against market fears regarding currencies and liquid investments, which is why it is a good idea to include them in your portfolio. If a currency or stocks or other financial instruments decrease in value for whatever reason, precious metals nudge upwards because of their inherent value, i.e. people start buying more of them because they are then seen as safer than the other financial instruments. If events transpire across an economy that cause a currency *and* the stock market *and* the bond market to drop, precious metals surge dramatically in response to people's fears. Conversely, when all aspects of a free market are strong with a high velocity of money, precious metals will tend toward their lowest price as people have high confidence in the currency, the markets and the economy. The above are factors affecting demand for precious metals. As you pointed out, the price realization of precious metals can be manipulated by controlling the supply. |
14-06-2021 12:26 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well. At least you have a free will to participate or not in this " scam" , unlike covid scam, where people are forced to testing, masking, hiding and jabbing. 13000 people are already dead after getting the jab and millions have complications. Edited on 14-06-2021 12:28 |
14-06-2021 15:58 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman wrote:At least you have a free will to participate or not in this " scam" , unlike covid scam, where people are forced to testing, masking, hiding and jabbing. 13000 people are already dead after getting the jab and millions have complications. Sadly, We the People had the free will to not participate in the scam but we sheepishly OBEYED our tyrannical government out of fear, the primary weapon of tyranny. Yes, We the People had the option and the free will ... and We the People threw it away. |
14-06-2021 17:33 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
Xadoman wrote:Personally, I think cryptocurrency is just another liberal/socialist scam, to take excess wealth from people. Vast majority of gamblers play, with more than they can afford to lose. Quite a few will gamble with loaned money as well. Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities? I've had a hunch that there were a lot more than the 26, I found a few weeks ago, and those were 'unconfirmed'. There were a bunch, dismissed as 'natural' causes, or do to pre-existing conditions. Sort of the opposite of what they seem to be doing with covid deaths. Pretty sure these are just American numbers, and possibly just the J&J vaccine. Google makes it really hard to find what you want, when it doesn't support the approved agenda. I only mask a bare minimal. Don't believe the do anything useful. Mostly impede breathing. I only wear a mask, in respect for 'house' rules. Never been nose-raped (tested). As an essential worker, I never had to hide at home, or deal with a curfew. For such a deadly, fast spreading disease, surprised I haven't been infected... Will refuse vaccination, up to the point were I'll lose my job, which isn't likely to come up. Unfortunately, it does sort of look like some sort of federal mandate may be in the works. I don't think the vaccines are working as well as they hoped, and I'm not the only one refusing. Every new outbreak, is a new, more deadly variant, which the vaccines are surprisingly effective against. Mostly fear mongering and marketing. I think they'll try everything else, before having Lord Biden issue a proclamation for mandatory vaccinations. They know there will be protests, possibly violence. Considering death rates from past vaccines, and the billions of doses given worldwide, there are too few. Even 13,000 seems a little light, for a worldwide number. I've had two co-workers in my department at work, that had violent reactions to their second doses. The first was a few weeks ago, called out for 4 days. He still looked bad his first day back, a little weak. Last week, a woman called out, and was still out, 3 days. I'm off this week, so have to wit to hear her story. These are healthy, physically active people in their 30's. We all do mostly physical work in a warehouse. People in poor health, getting a similar reaction, would probably be in the hospital. Sounded like the one guy should have went, but he was convince it would pass in a day, maybe two, like the paper said... |
14-06-2021 22:33 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities? |
14-06-2021 23:30 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21828) |
IBdaMann wrote:Into the Night wrote:Buying silver or gold is gambling as well, even though both silver and gold have inherent wealth. That sums it up pretty well. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
15-06-2021 01:14 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
Xadoman wrote:Can you give direction toward the 13,000 vaccine fatalities? I went to the EUdraVilgilance website, which appears to be a clone of the CDC reporting site, least in it's uselessness... Didn't find that screen, or anything close. So, I did a Google image search. Seems like somebody else had to go through, and add up all the government numbers for them. Guessing the euro government does the same deny and dismiss crap the CDC does. |
15-06-2021 11:42 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Guessing the euro government does the same deny and dismiss crap the CDC does. FDA- Fraud & Deception Administration WHO - World Hoax Organization CDC - Center's for Disease Creation The covid19 virus has never been isolated. All they have is a nice looking computer generated picture of the virus. In real life the electron microscope pictures are black and white and the images they have been seeing from those pictures could be just natural waste product or some other part of the human cell. And they keep babbling the fairy tale about different strains - deltas, zigmas, ypzilons, double- triple mutants etc etc. Just ask from yourself - how do they distinguish between those different stains? Of course they can not. They can not even isolate the main strain. They have nothing but a fairy tale. As much as I understand this hoax is a convenient way to milk goverment money but I have a feeling that there could be something more in it . Something much much more evil than simply milking money out of the layman s pocket. Harvey, take a look at that video: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235635735018171 Also worth reading: https://mask-covid.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-Contagion-Myth-Notes-Synopsis-1.pdf John Magufuli, president of Tanzania, may be the wisest world ruler alive today. A chemist by Edited on 15-06-2021 12:23 |
15-06-2021 14:46 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Also worth watching about the virus scam: https://bnt-cdn.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/06/ORQoumMPprMlPz5MEji3_02_363cc82374b4d14111cf5f757f5900f7_video_480p_converted.mp4 Edited on 15-06-2021 14:47 |
15-06-2021 15:00 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
I just read from another forum:The State of New Mexico has a lottery now of $5m to anyone with the vaccine. I noticed quite a similar thing in the whitepaper of the chadtoken, which I bought: At a $250 million marketcap or larger held for at least 7 consecutive days, we'll award 1 "lambo" |
15-06-2021 20:06 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman, Harvey, ... it might make conversation easier to just stop calling Safemoon a cryptocurrency because it is not. It's more like imaginary pet rocks. Safemoon is not centralized around its own blockchain. There is no burn, only fleecing of the community. Those who buy in are buying imaginary pet rocks on the promise that they will increase in value. Owners of the imaginary pet rocks are told that they will each be awarded some imaginary pet gravel every time someone's imaginary pet rock is ground into sand. The trouble is that imaginary pet rocks cannot be ground into sand. Xadoman wrote:Those new hype coins distribute part of the transaction fees to the holders. Except that there won't be any transactions. Everyone holds their tokens, remember? Xadoman wrote:Your bag is slowly growing bigger and bigger with each and every transaction being made. It seems to me that this way holding is rewarded. ... and effecting a transaction is heavily penalized, so they won't ever happen. It should be called "Safe-moon-rocks." The Safe-moon-rocks community has become a mindless collective that has created a dismissive buzzword for all precautionary warnings about Safemoon, i.e. "FUD" and those who try to warn the Safe-moon-rocks community of the glaring red flags are "purveyors of FUD." The Safe-moon-rocks community doesn't want to be saved. |
15-06-2021 23:33 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
IBdaMann wrote: Cryptocurancy, is just the name given, for marketing purposes for a product. They are all pretty much the same, different brands. You are free to create your own buzzwords, or argue semantics, on any word or phrase people commonly use, of course. I try to use words, most appropriate to the audience I'm addressing, to better communicate. Most people don't follow well, if they have to Google fancy words, and try to figure out what I meant, in the context they were used. Which is sort of the point, in a debate, deflects away from the issue. Been schooled on my use of 'fossil fuels', but everybody understands what I said, without listing each hydrocarbon fuel individually. I'll continue to pick words that best describe what I'm discussing, for simplicity sake. You'll have to strain yourself a little, and do the corrections in your head, to make yourself happy... |
16-06-2021 00:41 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
I travelled with my son for over an hour South yesterday to complete a sewer extension and mentioned this topic.He seemed to know a lot about it and apparently my other son bought some currency just because its logo was a drunk dog and it has gone up a lot.There are lots of currencies.At one time he had 2 bitcoins but now has a portion of 1 coin that is worth around $30,000.I believe bitcoin will stop being mined in 2045 and cap out at 21 million coins.Safe moon is bollocks and was inspired by Elon musk and rich bitches flying to the moon it will crash and burn.At the moment many actual goods can be purchased online with bitcoin and I am going to look in to opening a wallet and trading some coin as I have some spare real money.I am constantly buying parts for my 2001 Jeep Cherokee and have just started getting suspension parts which I do not seem to be able to get locally so if I do it right and time it I may end up getting free stuff.If nothing else it will be fun |
16-06-2021 05:36 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
HarveyH55 wrote:Cryptocurancy, is just the name given, for marketing purposes for a product. The term "Crypto-currency" refers to a currency based on an encrypted blockchain. Safemoon differs from cryptocurrencies because it does not have its own blockchain. HarveyH55 wrote: They are all pretty much the same, different brands. Safemoon is the exception. The others are cryptocurrencies. Safemoon really is nothing more than an imaginary thing that is marketed to speculators as an imaginary thing that will somehow skyrocket in value. Safemoon directors immediately convert any Safemoon holdings to an actual cryptocurrency so that they have something of discernible value as opposed to something that is purely imaginary. HarveyH55 wrote:You are free to create your own buzzwords, or argue semantics, on any word or phrase people commonly use, of course. You can rest assured that I will highlight every occurrence of someone hijacking words in order to deceive others. You can refer to this as "arguing semantics" but if it is necessary to expose dishonesty and to infuse honesty, I assure you I will "argue" those semantics every day of the week. Safemoon has more than its fair share of glaring red flags, but the two things that made the scam transparently clear to me were intentional semantic deceptions on the part of Safemoon holders. 1. FUD. If you were invested in a legitimate program then you, as a stakeholder, would want to be immediately informed of any irregularities, and you would want all matters/issues discussed thoroughly and openly. Participants in a scam, however, quickly try to suppress bad news or negative spin because that destroys their chances of successfully scamming others. Ergo, the Safemoon community has become its own propaganda machine. They created a buzzword "FUD" which stands for "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt" and the term is immediately hurled whenever someone says anything critical of Safemoon. The tactic is to promptly "discredit" all bad news and all critical analysis as "FUD" and imply that it should be summarily dismissed as politically motivated lies. Sidenote: I'm sure you immediately recognize when someone is being dishonest when he starts virtue signalling. When you see/hear the term FUD used with respect to Safemoon, it is a participant in the Safemoon pyramid trying to virtue signal to the rest of the Safemoon community ... and he is lying. Check it out. 2. Burn. Cryptocurrencies "burn" tokens/coins as Into the Night explained, per a published algorithm that can be verified in the blockchain. Not Safemoon. Safemoon has no burn function and Safemoon does not have its own blockchain; the Safemoon directors get all tokens that are redirected to "liquidity" and then immediately convert those tokens to some actual cryptocurrency. If Safemoon were a cryptocurrency then this activity would be immediately identified as bad faith, would totally undermine the integrity of the currency and would probably be an illegal violation punishable by jail time. The Safemoon community knows this, yet because of their inherent conflict of interest by being participants in the Safemoon pyramid scheme, they lie outright to the rest of the world by pretending Safemoon is a legitimate "currency" with a standard "burn" function. One of the first things a potential cryptocurrency buyer investigates is the currency's burn algorithm. If people researching Safemoon were to learn the truth about the Safemoon directors' little embezzlement scheme, that would probably cause an immediate end to any interest in Safemoon, and that would be bad news to all the participants in the pyramid scheme ... so the entire Safemoon community, whose success in making money is predicated on others entering the pyramid from the bottom, lie like muth'r-fuúkk'rs about Safemoon's "burn function" when they should be openly and honestly discussing it as the Directors' mechanism for stealing value that is instead supposed to be "burned". HarveyH55 wrote: I try to use words, most appropriate to the audience I'm addressing, to better communicate. You certainly take responsibility for what you write and you do your own thinking. Also, you discuss honestly. And you are polite. It would be very hard to criticize your posting style without pivoting to petty spelling and grammar errors. HarveyH55 wrote:Most people don't follow well, if they have to Google fancy words, and try to figure out what I meant, in the context they were used. I totally agree with your sentiment but I don't completely agree with the implication that technical words must be avoided. I believe that the best policy is to be accurate and to use all the correct terms, and then to explain any that are technical in nature. ... but then again, I believe in becoming a sarcastic ashsole when I detect dishonesty and any inclination I might have had of being polite goes out the window at that point. Whether or not I am being polite naturally determines my manner of expression and I don't maintain your level of discipline when people are lying to me. If you are ever conversing with someone who is being dishonest and you need a "bad cop" to round out the discussion, I'm here for you. HarveyH55 wrote: Been schooled on my use of 'fossil fuels', but everybody understands what I said, Sure, but I recall those discussions in a somewhat different light. You were objecting to people like me referring to hydrocarbons as hydrocarbons and preferring to avoid calling them "fossil fuels" ... and I get the impression that discussion of hydrocarbons forming in the earth, as well as their need for high heat and pressure in order to form, rubs you the wrong way ... which causes someone like me to wonder what wording I can use that is not objectionable yet is totally accurate technically. Otherwise I don't believe anyone has any problem with your straightforward approach to discussion. btw ... I do remember kind of jumping on you on the gun control issue and I felt really bad afterwards because you didn't say anything that deserved any sort of verbal lashing. I don't think I ever apologized for that ... so ... I apologize for that. Better late than never? HarveyH55 wrote: I'll continue to pick words that best describe what I'm discussing, for simplicity sake. Good on you. HarveyH55 wrote: You'll have to strain yourself a little, and do the corrections in your head, to make yourself happy... I'm happy to do it. Just keep on keep'n on. |
16-06-2021 12:28 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1035) |
Hey IBdaMann, thought you should see it: |
16-06-2021 14:57 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
Xadoman wrote:Hey IBdaMann, thought you should see it: Thank you for making my point for me. 1. Show me the official documentation that explains technically what "two-way transactional exemptions" means exactly and to whom exactly they apply. 2. Show me the signed contractual documents that obligate Safemoon directors to adhere to the "exemptions" in #1. 3. Notice that you, a conflict-of-interest-riddled participant in the pyramid scheme did not rush to provide the documents mentioned in #1 and #2 above but rather chose to regurgitate (by reposting) some meaningless gibber-babble dishonestly implying that I am somehow mistaken in my criticism despite your full awareness that I am spot on. Your full support was all I needed to make my case complete. Thanks again. PS - I am toying with the idea of creating an acronym: CSP (Conflicted Scam Participant). You are a CSP. Edited on 16-06-2021 15:02 |
17-06-2021 04:23 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
IBdaMann wrote to Harvey: It would be very hard to criticize your posting style without pivoting to petty spelling and grammar errors. James___ wrote to Harvey:Because of people like you who can't spell climate. ____________ James___ wrote to Harvey:And for some issues, we have 1, maybe 2 decades to start implementing solutions. IBdaMann wrote to Harvey:We have at most twelve years until the tipping point, although it might already be too late. |
17-06-2021 05:51 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
I have opened a wallet with OKEx and it trades CFD as well.Now I plan on burning my hard earned money because I can |
17-06-2021 06:57 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
duncan61 wrote:I have opened a wallet with OKEx and it trades CFD as well.Now I plan on burning my hard earned money because I can If you are looking to give away your hard-earned money by gambling unnecessarily on a bad-faith pyramid scheme then I recommend buying into Safemoon. It's an even better bet than ATE. Just ask Xadoman. Safemoon is the one to get. |
27-06-2021 06:29 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14507) |
We all have to watch ads in order to watch the YouTube videos. I found THIS AD very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgFA0wp9LkA Despite my recent disagreement with Into the Night concerning whether money is wealth, his underlying reservations about fiat currency really should be taken into account by ... well, by everybody. There is risk in everything and for all the power that a currency affords an economy, it injects a great deal of risk as well, especially when a government or, gasp, some small, private group of individuals has total control over the currency. Libertarians aren't fond of fiat currencies and generally push for something with inherent value to serve as an exchange medium. GOLD is recommended frequently. I believe that I mentioned somewhere else, possibly in this thread, that PRECIOUS METALS are a good idea to include in your portfolio as a hedge in your diversification formula. I stand by that recommendation. Note: I am NOT Pierre Kim and I am not associated in any way with Oxford Gold Group. |
27-06-2021 07:01 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote:duncan61 wrote:My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago. With Day Trading, one company who made money off of it said they require people to have $50K. And they will lose it. Major players manipulate the stock market. They pay millions of dollars to be next to the server and to have a high speed connection. They can effect trades in milliseconds. No day trader can keep up with this. Just a well know fact. An example is if day traders execute a buy or sale, bigger fish will be ahead of their transactions. If you're not on a fiber optic network near the server making trades, everything will change before your slow high speed internet connection makes a trade. How do people not know this? |
27-06-2021 18:10 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5197) |
James___ wrote:IBdaMann wrote:duncan61 wrote:My son needed $45K for a deposit on his house and he sold the bitcoin he bought for 3K 3 years ago. Most day traders, got there education through an online course, or a seminar, and were sold software, to help make them filthy rich, by following a 'system' they were taught. They were sucked into a scam, before they made their first trade. The software 'coach' gives them hot stock tips to watch, when to buy, when to sell, part of the 'system'. Of course, the dude running the scam, is just using the rubes, who bought in the system, to manipulate stock prices, or to buy his worthless stocks, and get stuck holding them. The software is mostly automatic, but plenty of options and adjustments, which really have little effect on anything, just fun to play with, before deciding the automatic, default settings work best anyway. Most do make some money, or basically break even, as long as the stay in the automatic settings. You don't want to break your 'tools' in the scam. Unfortunately, there are competing scam software, and most will switch around, hoping to find more profitable versions. All are about the same, they don't really pay any better, than an actual job, and no benefits. There is a lot of legitimate software out as well, but expensive, kind of complicated to learn and master. Those that actually graduate, to real trading, quickly learn that they can lose big, compared to the scam software. Basically, because the scammers control the more common markets. Not to mention, they are still attracted to the markets, that they got their early training on. The 'tips' people get online, are usually the stocks somebody intends to manipulate. |
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