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World Population and Annual Global temperature Since 195021-09-2017 18:39
James_
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Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.
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22-09-2017 08:37
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James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.

CO2 does not intensify anything. It also does not measure pressure. It also is not a thermometer.


The Parrot Killer
23-09-2017 06:10
James_
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Into the Night wrote:
James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.

CO2 does not intensify anything. It also does not measure pressure. It also is not a thermometer.


Another example of time being wasted.
23-09-2017 06:16
GasGuzzler
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James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.


James, that is quite the temperature hockey stick there in your first post. Care to cite your sources?
23-09-2017 07:15
James_
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GasGuzzler wrote:
James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.


James, that is quite the temperature hockey stick there in your first post. Care to cite your sources?


Gas,
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201113
[url]http://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/sciencexplorer/earth_and_climate/golden_spike/video/spoergsmaal_svar1/ [/url]

If you read the 2nd link, that scientist notes events that happened that CO2 can't account for.
24-09-2017 18:07
litesong
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[b]James_ wrote: Another example of time being wasted.

Yeah, AGW denier liar whiners waste much time saying dead things like:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: The climate isn't changing.....as the climate begins to show it's true colors - cyclic behavior......
AGW denier liar whiners wasted 20 years predictin' Ice Age temperatures. Meanwhile:
1)...last 3 years were consecutive record highs
2)...present Arctic sea ice VOLUME-- ~ 10,000+ cubic kilometers LESS than the average months of 1980's. The energy needed to melt such a block of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
3) ~ 395(+?) straight months-- over the average global temperatures of the 20th century. Yeah, get those temperatures back under the 20th century average. Has to be real simple..... cause AGW denier liar whiners say its all cyclical. Of course, "getting back under the average temperature of the 20th century" means that 400+ MONTHS into the future will have to be under the 20th century average because you have to balance ALL over-temperature MONTHS since ~ 1986 & many over-temperature months during the 1900 to 1986 period.

Let's get this cyclical global temperature drop going & continuing.... so's AGW denier liar whiners can be right.... 400 months(probably more) into the future!
25-09-2017 20:07
Wake
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GasGuzzler wrote:
James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.


James, that is quite the temperature hockey stick there in your first post. Care to cite your sources?


Population growth surely is an indicator of the amount of energy consumed by man if not a direct indicator of the levels of CO2 since carbon dioxide is both released from the ocean as we have a warm period and not all energy used by man generates CO2.

It appears that last year we had a sharp drop in global temperatures and we probably will again for the next couple of years. Whether or not this continues and is the end of this warm period or if it is nothing more than another pause we will have to wait and see.
25-09-2017 20:47
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Wake wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.


James, that is quite the temperature hockey stick there in your first post. Care to cite your sources?


Population growth surely is an indicator of the amount of energy consumed by man if not a direct indicator of the levels of CO2 since carbon dioxide is both released from the ocean as we have a warm period and not all energy used by man generates CO2.

This statement doesn't appear to say anything.
Wake wrote:
It appears that last year we had a sharp drop in global temperatures

You don't know the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to determine it.
Wake wrote:
and we probably will again for the next couple of years.

So now you're a 'climate forecaster', just like the faithful of the Church of Global Warming. Tell me, did you use fresh chicken entrails for this forecast?
Wake wrote:
Whether or not this continues and is the end of this warm period or if it is nothing more than another pause we will have to wait and see.

Whether or not WHAT continues??? Your random numbers or your forecast of random numbers?


The Parrot Killer
26-09-2017 01:51
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: It appears that last year we had a sharp drop in global temperatures and we probably will again for the next couple of years.

Since last year was our warmest recorded year, you must be figuring some of the MONTHS had sharply dropped in temperature. However, All the months in 2016 still were over the 20th century average temperature.... as were ALL the months since ~ 1986.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" still is bettin' on global cooling, like any determined AGW denier liar whiner would.
26-09-2017 03:15
James_
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Wake wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
James_ wrote:
Something to consider. I think most people know that I think CO2 is an intensifier.
At the same time it might also be a "barometer". This simply means that it could be an indicator of the amount of heat being dumped into the atmosphere.


James, that is quite the temperature hockey stick there in your first post. Care to cite your sources?


Population growth surely is an indicator of the amount of energy consumed by man if not a direct indicator of the levels of CO2 since carbon dioxide is both released from the ocean as we have a warm period and not all energy used by man generates CO2.

It appears that last year we had a sharp drop in global temperatures and we probably will again for the next couple of years. Whether or not this continues and is the end of this warm period or if it is nothing more than another pause we will have to wait and see.


Rapid cooling has happened in the past. That is something that CO2 cannot account for and is one reason why I think heat comes from the sea floor around Greenland. Just as an earthquake can cause a deep fault that releases heat, those faults can also be closed by another earthquake.
The link is to the number of 4.5 magnitude or greater earthquakes around Greenland since Jan. 1st, 2010 https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#%7B%22feed%22%3A%221506383554790%22%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%5B%5B58.848%2C-73.828%5D%2C%5B84.548%2C5.625%5D%5D%2C%22viewModes%22%3A%5B%22list%22%2C%22map%22%5D%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Afalse%2C%22search%22%3A%7B%22id%22%3A%221506383554790%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22Search%20Results%22%2C%22isSearch%22%3Atrue%2C%22params%22%3A%7B%22starttime%22%3A%222010-01-01%2000%3A00%3A00%22%2C%22endtime%22%3A%222017-09-25%2023%3A59%3A59%22%2C%22maxlatitude%22%3A84.548%2C%22minlatitude%22%3A58.848%2C%22maxlongitude%22%3A5.625%2C%22minlongitude%22%3A-73.828%2C%22minmagnitude%22%3A4.5%2C%22orderby%22%3A%22time%22%7D%7D%7D. While I believe that earthquakes can create deep faults that warm our oceans they can also close them. This link https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#%7B%22feed%22%3A%221506385049384%22%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%5B%5B62.624%2C-75.234%5D%2C%5B84.274%2C3.516%5D%5D%2C%22viewModes%22%3A%5B%22list%22%2C%22map%22%5D%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Afalse%2C%22search%22%3A%7B%22id%22%3A%221506385049384%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22Search%20Results%22%2C%22isSearch%22%3Atrue%2C%22params%22%3A%7B%22starttime%22%3A%221940-01-01%2000%3A00%3A00%22%2C%22endtime%22%3A%221970-12-31%2023%3A59%3A59%22%2C%22maxlatitude%22%3A84.274%2C%22minlatitude%22%3A62.624%2C%22maxlongitude%22%3A3.516%2C%22minlongitude%22%3A-75.234%2C%22minmagnitude%22%3A4.5%2C%22orderby%22%3A%22time%22%7D%7D%7Dis to earthquakes magnitude 4.5 or greater from 1940 to 1970. That's 30 years. The other link was to less than 8 years.

This link discusses the Gulf Stream, you might find it interesting.
https://phys.org/news/2017-02-rapid-north-atlantic-cooling-21st.html
Edited on 26-09-2017 03:19
26-09-2017 03:32
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