WMO confirms 2017 among the three warmest years on record

monckton wrote:
"18 January 2018 (WMO) - In a clear sign of continuing long-term climate change caused by increasing atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, 2015, 2016 and 2017 have been confirmed as the three warmest years on record. 2016 still holds the global record, whilst 2017 was the warmest year without an El Niño, which can boost global annual temperatures.

A consolidated analysis by the World Meteorological Organization of five leading international datasets showed that the global average surface temperature in 2017 was approximately 1.1° Celsius above the pre-industrial era.

The year 2016 remains the warmest year on record (1.2°C above preindustrial era). Global average temperatures in 2017 and 2015 were both 1.1°C above pre-industrial levels. The two years are virtually indistinguishable because the difference is less than one hundredth of a degree, which is less than the statistical margin of error ..."
https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/wmo-confirms-2017-among-three-warmest-years-record

monckton wrote:
"As the world gets warmer due to climate change, extreme weather events are forecast to get more dangerous partly because of the huge amount of extra energy being added to the atmosphere.

Now, for the first time, the WMO has established the cyclones, tornadoes, lightning strikes and hailstorms that caused the most deaths..."

World's deadliest storms from tornadoes to cyclones, lightning and hail
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/world-deadliest-storms-tornadoes-cyclones-hail-lightning-bangladesh-india-egypt-zimbabwe-a7741261.html

Into the Night wrote:Where's all that extra energy coming from? The output of the Sun hasn't changed much.

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:Where's all that extra energy coming from? The output of the Sun hasn't changed much.

I heard it's actually been falling these past few years. It's not due to extra energy coming from anywhere the problem is the earth's atmosphere is retaining more energy.

monckton wrote:
This is because of the greenhouse effect where rising CO2 emissions cause increased global warming aka climate change.

monckton wrote:
It's been particularly severe in the Arctic

monckton wrote:
- the Polar Vortex is weakening.

monckton wrote:
President Al Gore mentions it a lot. (I only call him that because I heard once you win an election you keep the title even when you are no longer in office)

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:Where's all that extra energy coming from? The output of the Sun hasn't changed much.

I heard it's actually been falling these past few years. It's not due to extra energy coming from anywhere the problem is the earth's atmosphere is retaining more energy. This is because of the greenhouse effect where rising CO2 emissions cause increased global warming aka climate change. It's been particularly severe in the Arctic - the Polar Vortex is weakening. President Al Gore mentions it a lot. (I only call him that because I heard once you win an election you keep the title even when you are no longer in office)

James___ wrote:And in America there are only 2 emotions, greed and fear.

monckton wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure we're on the same page.
And Saturn's got a polar vortex as well, it's not like its a riddle or a debating topic, it's common knowledge.

Saturn's Weird Hexagon Vortex Stuns in NASA Photo
https://www.space.com/27392-saturn-hexagon-vortex-nasa-photo.html

James___ wrote:

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:Where's all that extra energy coming from? The output of the Sun hasn't changed much.

I heard it's actually been falling these past few years. It's not due to extra energy coming from anywhere the problem is the earth's atmosphere is retaining more energy. This is because of the greenhouse effect where rising CO2 emissions cause increased global warming aka climate change. It's been particularly severe in the Arctic - the Polar Vortex is weakening. President Al Gore mentions it a lot. (I only call him that because I heard once you win an election you keep the title even when you are no longer in office)

...I think there is a problem that we haven't considered.

James___ wrote:
If it is understood how a greenhouse effect

James___ wrote:
works on our planet and that it can trap or slow heat

James___ wrote:
which is reducing the atmosphere's ability to allow it to vent into space

James___ wrote:
then something would need to be done.

James___ wrote:
They are afraid of that.

James___ wrote:
And in America there are only 2 emotions, greed and fear.

monckton wrote:

James___ wrote:And in America there are only 2 emotions, greed and fear.

Yeah and you get to pick one and vote for it.
Outside that bubble, there is also mockery and it is strong...

Hillary Has New Excuse On Why She Lost - Capitalism!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far8Hnae7xw

Into the Night wrote:

"To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.

Architect and Engineer Signatories: 2,998
General Public Signatories: 22,143"
https://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

"To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.

Architect and Engineer Signatories: 2,998
General Public Signatories: 22,143"
https://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE

Yes, and rising, only rising.

I'm with you, but don't mention this you'll piss off the yanks and it's tough enough for them without them realising they're yellow.
If you must ask - it was the audio that convinced me, it backed up the statements of about 140 surviving first responders (bombs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM plus when you go back and look they blew it all up in broad daylight on live TV. Wow. Fooled me. The power of suggestion.

Stay away from hot topics.
Keep bullshitting about climate change.

James___ wrote:

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

"To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.

Architect and Engineer Signatories: 2,998
General Public Signatories: 22,143"
https://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE

Yes, and rising, only rising.

I'm with you, but don't mention this you'll piss off the yanks and it's tough enough for them without them realising they're yellow.
If you must ask - it was the audio that convinced me, it backed up the statements of about 140 surviving first responders (bombs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM plus when you go back and look they blew it all up in broad daylight on live TV. Wow. Fooled me. The power of suggestion.

Stay away from hot topics.
Keep bullshitting about climate change.

...My brother told me that after the original attack https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/05/us/1993-world-trade-center-bombing-fast-facts/index.html on the World Trade Center failed that it was explained on tv how to take them down. Someone with the engineer knowledge said it would take flying a plane into them.

James___ wrote:
..The bomb in the basement garage did little damage and it was a truck filled with explosives. This is what led to a discussion on tv on the right way to do it. Needless to say the terrorists were freely supplied with the information they needed in order to succeed.

James___ wrote:
..I used to work for Boeing and am aware of how large airplanes actually are. That both buildings held for a while shows how solidly built skyscrapers are.

James___ wrote:
...deleted extraneous detail...
..For those who don't know what allows for skyscrapers, it's their concrete cores that serve as the housing for elevators.

James___ wrote:
With demolition, they can remain standing when the building around them is to be cleared.

James___ wrote:
With 9/11 the impact could've easily fractured the concrete cores by the lateral stress the planes caused.

James___ wrote:
..This is a controlled demolition, with 9/11 the buildings went about straight down. Even watching shows that are about this, not sure if I've seen anything other than something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIjUn7_erY

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

"To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.

Architect and Engineer Signatories: 2,998
General Public Signatories: 22,143"
https://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE

Yes, and rising, only rising.

I'm with you, but don't mention this you'll piss off the yanks and it's tough enough for them without them realising they're yellow.
If you must ask - it was the audio that convinced me, it backed up the statements of about 140 surviving first responders (bombs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM plus when you go back and look they blew it all up in broad daylight on live TV. Wow. Fooled me. The power of suggestion.

Stay away from hot topics.
Keep bullshitting about climate change.

...My brother told me that after the original attack https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/05/us/1993-world-trade-center-bombing-fast-facts/index.html on the World Trade Center failed that it was explained on tv how to take them down. Someone with the engineer knowledge said it would take flying a plane into them.

Nope. All it takes is fire.

James___ wrote:
..The bomb in the basement garage did little damage and it was a truck filled with explosives. This is what led to a discussion on tv on the right way to do it. Needless to say the terrorists were freely supplied with the information they needed in order to succeed.

The force of that bomb went into surround earth, not the building.

James___ wrote:
..I used to work for Boeing and am aware of how large airplanes actually are. That both buildings held for a while shows how solidly built skyscrapers are.

Quite true.

James___ wrote:
...deleted extraneous detail...
..For those who don't know what allows for skyscrapers, it's their concrete cores that serve as the housing for elevators.

WRONG. Only some buildings use such a core. The WTC did not. These buildings were constructed using steel lattice structure. No core support needed.

James___ wrote:
With demolition, they can remain standing when the building around them is to be cleared.

The core in the WTC design is not structure.

James___ wrote:
With 9/11 the impact could've easily fractured the concrete cores by the lateral stress the planes caused.

There was no supporting core to fracture. The WTC was constructed using steel lattice construction.

James___ wrote:
..This is a controlled demolition, with 9/11 the buildings went about straight down. Even watching shows that are about this, not sure if I've seen anything other than something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIjUn7_erY

Here again, you are listening to idiots speculating on what happened assuming generic things that weren't there.

The aircraft caused a fire. The FIRE brought the buildings down, not the aircraft. There is no central supporting core in steel lattice construction. Fire can easily bring down such a building, once a steel column softens and bends sufficiently.

WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 all came down due to fire.

Concrete or stone structures are not susceptible to this kind of collapse. That's why many of these buildings survived enormous fires.

Into the Night wrote:

The aircraft caused a fire. The FIRE brought the buildings down, not the aircraft. There is no central supporting core in steel lattice construction. Fire can easily bring down such a building, once a steel column softens and bends sufficiently.

monckton wrote:
Well, whichever way you look at it - it all turned out well in the end.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

monckton wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

"To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.

Architect and Engineer Signatories: 2,998
General Public Signatories: 22,143"
https://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/#/AE

Yes, and rising, only rising.

I'm with you, but don't mention this you'll piss off the yanks and it's tough enough for them without them realising they're yellow.
If you must ask - it was the audio that convinced me, it backed up the statements of about 140 surviving first responders (bombs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM plus when you go back and look they blew it all up in broad daylight on live TV. Wow. Fooled me. The power of suggestion.

Stay away from hot topics.
Keep bullshitting about climate change.

...My brother told me that after the original attack https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/05/us/1993-world-trade-center-bombing-fast-facts/index.html on the World Trade Center failed that it was explained on tv how to take them down. Someone with the engineer knowledge said it would take flying a plane into them.

Nope. All it takes is fire.

James___ wrote:
..The bomb in the basement garage did little damage and it was a truck filled with explosives. This is what led to a discussion on tv on the right way to do it. Needless to say the terrorists were freely supplied with the information they needed in order to succeed.

The force of that bomb went into surround earth, not the building.

James___ wrote:
..I used to work for Boeing and am aware of how large airplanes actually are. That both buildings held for a while shows how solidly built skyscrapers are.

Quite true.

James___ wrote:
...deleted extraneous detail...
..For those who don't know what allows for skyscrapers, it's their concrete cores that serve as the housing for elevators.

WRONG. Only some buildings use such a core. The WTC did not. These buildings were constructed using steel lattice structure. No core support needed.

James___ wrote:
With demolition, they can remain standing when the building around them is to be cleared.

The core in the WTC design is not structure.

James___ wrote:
With 9/11 the impact could've easily fractured the concrete cores by the lateral stress the planes caused.

There was no supporting core to fracture. The WTC was constructed using steel lattice construction.

James___ wrote:
..This is a controlled demolition, with 9/11 the buildings went about straight down. Even watching shows that are about this, not sure if I've seen anything other than something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIjUn7_erY

Here again, you are listening to idiots speculating on what happened assuming generic things that weren't there.

The aircraft caused a fire. The FIRE brought the buildings down, not the aircraft. There is no central supporting core in steel lattice construction. Fire can easily bring down such a building, once a steel column softens and bends sufficiently.

WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 all came down due to fire.

Concrete or stone structures are not susceptible to this kind of collapse. That's why many of these buildings survived enormous fires.

...Just more diatribe. Just another Trump wannabe.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

The aircraft caused a fire. The FIRE brought the buildings down, not the aircraft. There is no central supporting core in steel lattice construction. Fire can easily bring down such a building, once a steel column softens and bends sufficiently.

...He doesn't know what holds steel beams together. And that it is heat that fuses them as well as breaks their bond ? Kind of why an aircraft would've weakened such buildings.

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James___ wrote:

..If anyone from ISIS or Al Qaeda is interested, using explosives to weaken one side of a skyscraper will allow it to fall into other buildings causing much more damage. It is important for you to know this so Americans will know what happened. Care for a game of Dominos anyone ?

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GasGuzzler wrote:

monckton wrote:
Well, whichever way you look at it - it all turned out well in the end.

I'm not one to talk trash on the internet, but if anyone said that to me in person, I would consider it a threat against myself, my family, and my country. I would rightfully neutralize that threat. 3000 innocent people died, and it turned out well? You are an assshole.

GasGuzzler wrote:
James, I'll admit I had to take a long hard look at this subject. Here's the video that finally convinced me. It's only a couple minutes...take a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

Into the Night wrote:
1

Why are you such a jerk that you want to help someone like terrorists?

monckton wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
James, I'll admit I had to take a long hard look at this subject. Here's the video that finally convinced me. It's only a couple minutes...take a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

Who's this hard working Joe taking time out of his busy day, some grill Chef?
What would he know?

monckton wrote:
Ask him about PNAC.
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James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
1

Why are you such a jerk that you want to help someone like terrorists?

People like you and GasGuzzler require it.

James___ wrote:
This is why we are discussing how the WTC was engineered and how it can come down.

James___ wrote:
It's rather an odd subject to be discussing in a climate debate forum.

James___ wrote:
And if I don't make known how explosives can be used to destroy structures on American soil then I will be corrected if I get it wrong.

Into the Night wrote:
Ask him about PNAC.
...deleted unrelated conspiracy theory and Holy Links...

Into the Night wrote:

You got it wrong. You are being corrected.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

You got it wrong. You are being corrected.

Is that why you banned litesong? So you could come after me ? That's what it seems to be.