29-11-2021 18:40 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
keepit wrote: There is no sequence. You cannot suspend the Stefan-Boltzmann law for even a moment. Energy emitted by the Stefan-Boltzmann law is not 'reemitted'. It is emitted. The Stefan-Boltzmann law does not describe reflection or 'reemission' in any way. You cannot reduce entropy by even a moment either. You cannot suspend the 2nd law of thermodynamics for even a moment. There is no sequence. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 18:49 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: You cannot slow light to less than the speed of light. You cannot trap light. duncan61 wrote: Clouds cannot slow or trap light either. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. duncan61 wrote: Heat occurs anywhere something hotter is heating something colder. Heat has no location. It is not stored in anything. It is not energy. duncan61 wrote: They are belittling you. duncan61 wrote: Who is 'we'? Are you talking to your other head or something? duncan61 wrote: Not possible. You cannot slow or trap light. Light always travels at the speed of light. You cannot reduce entropy for any reason. You cannot use a colder gas to heat the warmer surface. You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat. duncan61 wrote: Did you forget chemical energy? Mechanical energy? Thermal energy? duncan61 wrote: NO gas or vapor slows or traps light. duncan61 wrote: The temperature rises with altitude in the stratosphere. The energy, however, still decreases with altitude. Temperature is NOT total thermal energy. Denial of the 0th law of thermodynamics. duncan61 wrote: Since you are turning to do just that, by your own definition, you have lost the argument. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 18:53 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: NO gas or vapor has the capability to trap light. NO gas or vapor has the capability to reduce entropy. NO gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. Angle of incidence plays NO part. You are trying to add an angle of incidence term to the Stefan-Boltzmann law. You cannot change the law in any way. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 18:55 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
keepit wrote: Paradox. You cannot deny and support the Stefan-Boltzmann law at the same time. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 19:00 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
keepit wrote: There is no sequence. You cannot suspend the Stefan-Boltzmann law or the 2nd law of thermodynamics for even a moment. keepit wrote: You cannot trap or slow light. keepit wrote: It doesn't. CO2 emits light according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law, just as the surface does. keepit wrote: You cannot heat a warmer surface using a colder gas. You cannot reduce entropy for any reason. You cannot suspend the 2nd law of thermodynamics for even a moment. There is no sequence. keepit wrote: You cannot trap light. You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat. You cannot reduce entropy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 19:10 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: Angle of incidence is not a factor in either absorption nor emission. You are trying to modify the Stefan-Boltzmann law again. duncan61 wrote: IBD is correct. duncan61 wrote: The presence or absence of an atmosphere does NOT change the average temperature of any planet. An atmosphere is NOT energy. You cannot create energy out of nothing. No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. duncan61 wrote: It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. duncan61 wrote: IBD is correct. Thermal energy will heat anything around it that is colder. duncan61 wrote: But they do nevertheless heat the atmosphere around it. duncan61 wrote: But the bottom nevertheless heats the air around it. duncan61 wrote: But hot water will heat anything else colder than it, regardless of convection. duncan61 wrote: But fuel is that burning lower down will still heat the air around it. duncan61 wrote: Denial of the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which defines the concept of heat. Heat can flow by convection (which you seem to be concentrating on), by conduction (which you are ignoring) and by radiance (which you are ignoring). The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 19:11 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: The temperature of the Moon is unknown. The temperature of Earth is unknown. No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. No atmosphere, no gas, no vapor, NOTHING. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
29-11-2021 23:29 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
ITN wrote ALL of it will radiate back out into space again, sooner or later. The chemical energy is released back into thermal energy or light again. The electricity is converted back into thermal or light again. Thought it could not be trapped and according to SB it all happens at the speed of light.My new project is to try to work out why you and IBDM seem to be so concerned about denying the terms greenhouse gas and fossil fuel.Why is it so important to not accept that some gasses in the air slow the flow of energy leaving the surface as heat.The shimmering I can see on a hot day is visible energy Edited on 29-11-2021 23:31 |
29-11-2021 23:37 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
I came to this forum to learn the answers to the AGW/CC.I do not agree to your interpretations of the laws of physics.The real world gets in the way.So everyone on the planet calls it a car but you say no its an automobile and if you do not agree you are a religious fanatic and a moron that denies science.F off |
30-11-2021 00:16 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
duncan61 wrote:I came to this forum to learn the answers to the AGW/CC. No, you came to preach your own faith. duncan61 wrote:I do not agree to your interpretations of the laws of physics. There is no such thing as any "interpretation" of science. Science is not subjective. It doesn't matter what anyone has to say on the matter. Science stands on its own. Maybe you should become scientifically literate and learn to read science. Of course you would have to abandon those crazy denials of inconvenient science that contradict your stupid faith. Of course you would have to abandon stupid preaching. Still, it's totally worth it. You wouldn't be a total moron who is angrily flailing in frustration. You wouldn't need an "enemy" of any competing faith to demonize. Give learning a chance. You have already exhausted your ignorance and have nothing to show for it. Start by learning what heat is and what it is not. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
30-11-2021 00:20 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
ITN wrote The temperature of the Moon is unknown. The temperature of Earth is unknown. No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. No atmosphere, no gas, no vapor, NOTHING What temperature did I say the Moon is. what temperature did I say the Earth is. Are you inferring the moons temperature must be the same as Earth because of SB and the gaseous atmosphere on Earth does zip because of physics. I agree that no gas or vapour can create energy out of nothing but we have a situation where the sun provides an uncontrolled energy source and the Earth has an atmosphere. Edited on 30-11-2021 00:22 |
30-11-2021 00:33 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
duncan61 wrote:Why is it so important to not accept that some gasses in the air slow the flow of energy leaving the surface as heat. Easy. Because there aren't any gases that do so. Why is it so important to you to believe that some gasses in the air have divine, magickal superpowers to violate physics? What is so important that you are willing to profess to being a total moron? duncan61 wrote:The shimmering I can see on a hot day is visible energy The shimmering you see is the changing of wavelengths of the visible light due to the medium changing as a result of convection. Convection is a form of heat in fluids. Don't you think it's about time you learn what heat is (and is not) before you make another stupid post and waste yet additional bandwidth? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
30-11-2021 02:57 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote:duncan61 wrote:Why is it so important to not accept that some gasses in the air slow the flow of energy leaving the surface as heat. I can think of at least 4. Haven't you studied any of Boltzmann's work? I'm messing with you. It's what Joules and Thompson researched. |
30-11-2021 03:33 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
And Max Planck and Karl Schwaschild but according to IBDM it does not happen |
30-11-2021 04:02 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
duncan61 wrote:And Max Planck and Karl Schwaschild Do you really think that you, of all people, get to speak for dead people? You take immense pride in remaining a scientifically illiterate moron. You don't even know the difference between heat and a balloon. How hideously embarrassing is that? duncan61 wrote: ...but according to IBDM it does not happen Stefan-Boltzmann is not spelled "IBDM". Why haven't you learned what heat is yet? Are you too stupid to learn? Yes, you are? Oh, well that explains it then. Does your WACKY religion impose a quota on you as to the minimum bandwidth you must waste in the process of preaching what others tell you to believe? Go learn what heat is, you time-wasting moron. If you are too stupid to learn what heat is, despite having been told dozens of times, perhaps you should find a forum for children where you can play "pretend" all day. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
30-11-2021 04:57 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote: IBDaBoltzmann is. The attached image shows that both nitrogen and CO2 retain heat when exposed to a vacuum. I think searching for gasses that become excited doesn't provide the monetary return for search engines. Just consider above 300 kelvins. MPa is a megapascal which is 1 million pascals = 10 bars = 9.86923 times normal atmospheric pressure. The attached image shows the relationship between pressure and temperature. An FYI, neon becomes more excited in a vacuum. This might help to explain things; https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/chemistry/how-noble-gases-give-us-neon-lights/ It's possible that it is noble gasses that get excited when temperature and pressure drop. And there are 6 of them. p.s., with the attached image, when pressure drops below 10 atmospheres and heat (temperature) is increasing, pressure is meant to increase heat. Below 300 k (kelvins), pressure is creating temperature. p.s.s., I've tried searching for an Italian research paper but my searches won't find it today. Basically what is returned are common searches of little or no value. With my being serious, Italian scientists slowed different molecules in a blue medium using the Joules-Thomson throttling process. Attached image: Edited on 30-11-2021 05:33 |
30-11-2021 05:35 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
This is what I am talking about..... I'm not able to upload the image so the link is to it. https://photos.app.goo.gl/w6hzmgq9bndiwozM6 p.s., This is how noble gasses were discovered. Can't Google that type of research. Edited on 30-11-2021 05:40 |
30-11-2021 06:18 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
James___ wrote:The attached image shows that both nitrogen and CO2 retain heat when exposed to a vacuum. Nope. The image does not show that. Heat cannot be retained, by the way, nor can it be trapped, contained or any other word implying that it can be prevented from flowing. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
30-11-2021 09:58 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: Apparently not. You came here to chant religious scripture. duncan61 wrote: Too bad. There is no interpretation of the laws of physics. They are what they are. You just deny them. duncan61 wrote: The laws of physics ARE the real world, dumbass. duncan61 wrote: False equivalence fallacy. Semantics fallacy. Denial of science. You can't trap light. You can't trap heat. You can't trap thermal energy. There is always heat. You can't reduce entropy for any reason. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-11-2021 10:04 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: That is correct. duncan61 wrote: That is also correct. duncan61 wrote: You want to deny what you said now?? I gave you more than a fair shake. You blew it. Making an argument and then trying to deny your own argument is a fallacy, dude. duncan61 wrote: No. It is, however, the same distance from the Sun as Earth is, for all intents and purposes. The emissivity of the Moon is unknown. The emissivity of Earth is unknown. duncan61 wrote: Paradox. This is irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-11-2021 10:11 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
duncan61 wrote: Correct. duncan61 wrote: You cannot trap light. You cannot trap heat. You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat. duncan61 wrote: Because there is no such thing. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. duncan61 wrote: Because there is no such thing. Fossils don't burn. duncan61 wrote: You cannot trap heat. Heat is not energy. duncan61 wrote: Heat is not energy. Not even convective heat. The shimmering you see is caused by convective heat, which occurs in any fluid. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-11-2021 10:15 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
James___ wrote:IBdaMann wrote: No, it doesn't. It is not possible to trap heat. Heat is not contained in anything or retained by anything. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-11-2021 20:44 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
itn, This semantic confusion about the word "heat" has been perpetuated for a while now. Just for the sake of clarity, speak your mind about the movement of thermal energy and em energy and whether you think either can be slowed by anything. |
30-11-2021 22:45 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
keepit wrote: He can't accept that when a gas molecule collides with something it releases stored/conserved heat content. He doesn't understand that a flow of energy/heat happens because it is emitted. Edited on 30-11-2021 22:52 |
01-12-2021 00:13 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
keepit wrote:itn, This semantic confusion about the word "heat" has been perpetuated for a while now. Stop perpetuating the confusion and learn what heat is. Weren't we "done" because you don't feel capable of learning what heat is? Don't you think you should just hang it up and move on to a simpler topic that you can grasp, like chewing gum, perhaps? keepit wrote:Just for the sake of clarity, This never does any good where you are involved. You insist on errors, misinformation and gibber-babble and you take pride in your refusal/inability to learn/adopt correct terminology. It is totally inappropriate for you to be implying that others need to clarify to you. You are the one who is babbling gibberish. keepit wrote: speak your mind about the movement of thermal energy and em energy and whether you think either can be slowed by anything. ... because you view Into the Night as a trained seal who performs on command. He has explained all of these concepts many, many times ... as have I. My recommendation is that he tell you sit on a rebar and spin around. You have been asked several times how you believe light can be slowed. You refuse to answer. How are your misunderstandings to be corrected if you won't answer? Oh, that's right, you don't want your misunderstandings corrected. You are unwavering in your intention to impose your misunderstandings onto others. My recommendation to Into the Night is that he tell you sit on a rebar and spin around, although I might have mentioned this already. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
01-12-2021 01:57 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
lbd, why don't you discontinue the grade school trash talk? It makes you sound like you're either a child or an adult who never grew up. |
01-12-2021 02:38 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
keepit wrote:[deleted desperate attempt to change the topic away from keepit's immense pride in being too stupid to learn] Have you learned what heat is yet? Have you learned what a balloon is yet? How do you imagine light being slowed? Stay focused. [ M O R O N ] . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
01-12-2021 04:18 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote:keepit wrote:[deleted desperate attempt to change the topic away from keepit's immense pride in being too stupid to learn] Hmm, when light is refracted as an example by soil lacking moisture, it is refracted in the brown wavelength. This causes it to interact more with gasses in the Earth's atmosphere. This is one reason why sheet ice in the Arctic is an issue. When snow and ice refract light, it leaves the Earth's atmosphere more quickly. Yet when the sea ice extent is at its minimum then those cold Arctic waters will absorb light rather than refracting it. And with top soil, if it lacks moisture then it can become as the desert which we know can be quite hot during the day and then rather cold at night. This is because land with little moisture won't absorb much light. Just call it the H2O Factor. See? I even coined a new name for it. |
01-12-2021 11:44 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
keepit wrote: There is no semantic confusion. You simply don't know what 'heat' means. keepit wrote: No. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
01-12-2021 11:45 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
James___ wrote:keepit wrote: Heat is not 'content'. Heat is not potential energy. It is not 'released' from anywhere. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
01-12-2021 11:46 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
keepit wrote: Hallucination. insult fallacy. No argument presented. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
01-12-2021 13:21 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
IBDM you are not suggesting hot air balloons dont exist are you.That would be weird even by your standards |
01-12-2021 16:23 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
duncan61 wrote:IBDM you are not suggesting hot air balloons dont exist are you. Question marks and basic science are covered grammar school. This is why you should have actually gone to school. Of which color balloons are you speaking? |
02-12-2021 06:30 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
The red ones go up faster |
02-12-2021 23:54 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
Into the Night wrote:James___ wrote:keepit wrote: Aw c'mon man. In order to be a flow, it needs a source or point of origin. With your quote; It is not 'released' from anywhere. With nuclear fission, the heat/energy released is known by the common expression of E = MC^2. And as we all know, nuclear fission releases heat. Kind of why it's used for generating electricity. |
03-12-2021 00:58 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
James___ wrote:Aw c'mon man. In order to be a flow, it needs a source or point of origin. Nope. Do you confuse the flow of a river with the source of the river? Can you not distinguish between separate and distinct concepts? James___ wrote: With nuclear fission, the heat/energy released is known by the common expression of E = MC^2. That is the mass-energy equivalence and it applies to all mass and energy, not merely the energy generated through the conversion of matter via fission. James___ wrote:And as we all know, nuclear fission releases heat. No, we don't know that because it doesn't. Learn what heat is. James___ wrote:Kind of why it's used for generating electricity. Actually, what is generated is thermal energy, huge quantities of it, and a fraction of that is converted to electrical energy. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
03-12-2021 01:17 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote:James___ wrote:Aw c'mon man. In order to be a flow, it needs a source or point of origin. Have you learned how to butter your bread by yourself yet? Can you even make toast? To quote you; Learn what heat is. Is that when atoms go to a lower state such as going from n=4 to n=2 or n=3 to n=2 and there's the photons that they release which are a "flow" of energy because the atom is going to a "lower" state? http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/semester2/c37_energylevels.html Just going back to the basics like in Luckenbach, Texas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw2eq3w1HGA Edited on 03-12-2021 01:20 |
03-12-2021 20:50 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
James___ wrote:IBdaMann wrote:James___ wrote:Aw c'mon man. In order to be a flow, it needs a source or point of origin. Not the definition of heat. Try again. The concept of heat is defined by the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which you are ignoring. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
04-12-2021 17:29 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
Into the Night wrote: I think the real issue is that you do not understand what the 1st law of thermodynamics allows for. An example is that if you were to create a fire to cook the game you caught (like GasGuzzler does) you would be converting matter into plasma. And it would be the plasma which is heat and cooks your dinner. This is because the wood you would be burning (charcoal which can be of wood origin and again what GasGuzzler might do would radiate heat) would be giving off (emitting) a gas which would be converted into highly ionized particles. |
04-12-2021 20:17 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
James___ wrote:Into the Night wrote: Not the definition of heat. Heat is not plasma. Try again. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 04-12-2021 20:18 |