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10-12-2021 04:39
keepit
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ibd,
Do you think you'll ever be able to communicate like and adult?
10-12-2021 04:55
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:ibd, Do you think you'll ever be able to communicate like and adult?

I can effectively use upper case letters. I can write in complete sentences. Does that sound totally unlike someone we both know, e.g. someone too stupid to learn how to communicate effectively, e.g. someone who believes Google is an authoritative reference instead of being a search engine, e.g. someone who isn't aware that Power is a rate?

10-12-2021 05:02
James___
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GasGuzzler wrote:
keepit wrote:
ibd,
Heat isn't a flow. A "flow" is a "rate".
A transfer is an amount, as in calories. Bluffing isn't going to work here. Maybe a flow of bluff would work.
For Better Information check with google if you don't believe me.


I don't believe you, so I checked with Google. Yup, called him on the phone and this is what he (she?) said.

Google's library of "heat" definitions...

1. the quality of being hot; high temperature.

2. Heat is the form of energy that is transferred between systems or objects with different temperatures

3. Heat, or thermal energy is the sum of the kinetic energy of atoms or molecules

4. the amount of thermal energy in a system

5. the energy stored inside an object

6. to make warm or hot

Keepit, these are all correct, correct?



keepit is actually right. If you can't measure or quantify the flow of heat then there is no flow. Kind of why microwave ovens are measured in watts of power. The flow of heat is being measured. If it's flow of energy, ie. heat is 1,000 watts then the heat/energy flow rate is 1,000 joules per second.
With this type of heat, microwaves excite water molecules which is why they heat food. After this we're kind of getting into physics and wave theory.
10-12-2021 05:06
keepit
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ibd,
it sounds like you didn't quite understand the question. Forgive me if i'm oversimplify and jumping to conclusions about you. Anyway, when a person has a personal problem, in order to correct it, they have to accept that they have the problem and then deal with it. Maybe you talk to people in your personal life the same way you talk on this website. If you don't, let me know and i'll retract my opinion.
10-12-2021 05:41
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:ibd,it sounds like you didn't quite understand the question.

Look, I'm the one who knows what a balloon is, and it is not heat.

keepit wrote: Forgive me if i'm oversimplify and jumping to conclusions about you.

Oversimplifying, jumping to erroneous conclusions, getting things terribly wrong, doubling down on stupid and taking pride in your ability to spew gibberish ... that is all par for the course for you so, yeah, you're forgiven.

keepit wrote:Anyway, when a person has a personal problem, in order to correct it, they have to accept that they have the problem

Good, I'm glad you understand at least that much. Let's focus on your personal grammatical problem for the moment. "A person" is singular but the pronoun "they" is a plural. One of your many problems is that you totally butcher the English language on a regular basis, diminishing hope of you ever communicating effectively. In this case, you have no grasp of parallel structure. You should have learned this when you were a child but alas, here we are.

Now let's talk about your obsessive need for attention. You have no grasp of science yet you troll this board with stupidly absurd "opinions" just to elicit a response from others that you consider an equivalent substitute for the love you never received as a child.

keepit wrote: Maybe you talk to people in your personal life the same way you talk on this website.

Yes, I speak to everyone in my personal life in grammatically correct English. Yes, I am understood when I speak. Yes, my children think I am weird.

keepit wrote: If you don't, let me know and i'll retract my opinion.

You have retractable opinions? I'm trying to imagine how one of your opinions looks and now I'm starting to see why your opinions would be better for shoveling shit than wasting bandwidth on the internet.

10-12-2021 15:45
GasGuzzlerProfile picture★★★★★
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Just checking out my new signature quote. Thanks IBdaMann!
10-12-2021 15:54
James___
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What will help to explain keepit's theorem is black body radiation. The rate at what a piece of metal cools internally because it is emitting energy is a flow whose rate can be measured. If there is no rate then there is no flow.
This might be laughable but what a rate is called when it's quantity isn't known might be referred to as a flow. When the rate is known then it becomes a current or an emission.
This actually gets into the context of what energy "is" and how it's defined. And with some in here, this allows for nothing more than a circular argument.
10-12-2021 17:59
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:What will help to explain keepit's theorem is black body radiation.

Blackbody radiation is what destroys keepit's arguments.
Blackbody radiation is what keepit denies.

James___ wrote:The rate at what a piece of metal cools internally because it is emitting energy is a flow whose rate can be measured.

Exactly. It is measured in POWER units. POWER is a rate, i.e. amount of energy per second, which is the rate of the flow of the energy.

James___ wrote:If there is no rate then there is no flow.

Since there is always a flow (unless there is no difference in temperature) there is always a rate.

James___ wrote: This might be laughable but what a rate is called when it's quantity isn't known might be referred to as a flow.

This is only true when the rate is of movement. When the rate is simply of occurrence then it is known as "frequency." If it is a rate of deletion or death then we usually refer to it as "disappearance." There are others.

James___ wrote: This actually gets into the context of what energy "is" and how it's defined.

Except that Into the Night beat you to it and has been saying as much for a long time now. It's all there, unambiguously, in the laws of thermodynamics.

Thanks for exploring this angle.

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I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit

A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-12-2021 18:32
keepit
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i don't think heat has a time in it but power and rate do.
10-12-2021 19:04
duncan61
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Gas consumption used for heating water and areas of the house are measured in Mj/Hr.My father was a plumber in England through the 50s and 60s and he used BTU.British thermal units
10-12-2021 19:05
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
i don't think heat has a time in it but power and rate do.

Heat is measured in watts. One watt is one joule per second. Do you know what a second is???


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
10-12-2021 19:15
keepit
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isn't watts the rate of heat transfer but not actually the heat?
10-12-2021 20:13
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
Gas consumption used for heating water and areas of the house are measured in Mj/Hr.My father was a plumber in England through the 50s and 60s and he used BTU.British thermal units


BTU is not a measure of heat. It is a measure of energy. It is equal to 1055 joules.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
10-12-2021 20:14
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
isn't watts the rate of heat transfer but not actually the heat?

Heat does not 'transfer'. Heat is the flow of thermal energy. Heat is not contained in anything. It has no temperature.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
10-12-2021 22:08
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:i don't think because if I were to do so I would know that heat has a time in it, i.e. energy per second, because it is a flow, and I would properly use upper-case letters.

I know, if you were to think for a moment you would notice that the sun's heating of the earth is measured in watts, with one watt being equal to one joule per second, with one joule being a quantity of energy.
10-12-2021 22:42
keepit
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ibd,
You modified my post again.
Will you ever be able to communicate like and honest adult.
11-12-2021 00:00
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
ibd,
You modified my post again.
Will you ever be able to communicate like and honest adult.


He didn't modify your post at all. He manufactured a quote.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
11-12-2021 01:16
James___
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keepit wrote:
isn't watts the rate of heat transfer but not actually the heat?



A watt is 1 joule per second. 1 joule is 1 newton. Why the specific value?
1 newton is 1 kg moving at 1 meter per second. 1 horse power equals about 750 watts. It's the energy. Does lifting 550 lbs. 1 ft. in 1 second generate heat? That is 1 horse power.
This is where what is producing that 1 h.p. would be producing heat. The work being done would produce little heat. 1st law of thermodynamics. Energy was converted.
11-12-2021 03:00
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:ibd, You modified my post again.

I just checked your post and it remains unmodified.

You are either lying or you are seeing things.

keepit wrote:Will you ever be able to communicate like and honest adult.

Just because I properly use upper case letters and write in grammatically correct sentences doesn't mean that I am not communicating like an honest adult.

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11-12-2021 03:05
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:ibd, You modified my post again.

keepit, you totally EVADED my point again, because you are totally dishonest as well as being totally stupid.

Will you ever be able to communicate like and honest adult? The Vegas sportsbook has "NO" as the overwhelming favorite.
11-12-2021 05:32
James___
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And Klempt is....

p.s., IBDM, does this help?
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