Why did global warming become climate change?

HarveyH55 wrote:It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes.

HarveyH55 wrote: Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years.

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

Define 'climate change'.

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Climate most certainly does change, in fact there is no known point in time when it was not changing.

Swan wrote:
The changes only vary in speed

Swan wrote:
and this speed is set at an Earth speed

Swan wrote:
which can seldom be observable in a single human lifetime.

Swan wrote:
The last change began 20,000 years ago when the last ice age crested and began to wane

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

Define 'climate change'.

The Earth conditions that put 1000 to 2000 feet of ice over half the area of the USA were the result of change. By 10,000 years ago 90 percent of this ice had melted, this process of icing over and melting is clearly change that was caused by the climate, or climate change. Since you can not accept scientific truths you deny that the ice age ever happened

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Climate most certainly does change, in fact there is no known point in time when it was not changing.

Are you saying that there is more 'climate' today than there was yesterday? How are you quantifying this "change" in 'climate'?

Swan wrote:
The changes only vary in speed

Ohhhhh, I think I gotcha now... So you're saying that 'climate' today is FASTER than it was yesterday? I had no idea that climate has a measurable speed... Look at all the new things that I learn whenever Swan comes out to play!!!

Swan wrote:
and this speed is set at an Earth speed

Drats! Now I must admit that I'm confused again... What is 'Earth speed', exactly?

Swan wrote:
which can seldom be observable in a single human lifetime.

IOW, you haven't observed anything and are just making schizzit up. Got it.

Swan wrote:
The last change began 20,000 years ago when the last ice age crested and began to wane

The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Swan wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Clueless as the Rocky mountains are not made of lava at all, and they were not carved. The Rockies are caused by the various plates sliding under the North American plate

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Climate most certainly does change,

Swan wrote:
in fact there is no known point in time when it was not changing.

Swan wrote:
The changes only vary in speed and this speed is set at an Earth speed which can seldom be observable in a single human lifetime.

Swan wrote:
The last change began 20,000 years ago when the last ice age crested and began to wane

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

Define 'climate change'.

The Earth conditions that put 1000 to 2000 feet of ice over half the area of the USA were the result of change.

Swan wrote:
By 10,000 years ago 90 percent of this ice had melted,

Swan wrote:
this process of icing over and melting is clearly change that was caused by the climate,

Swan wrote:
or climate change.

Swan wrote:
Since you can not accept scientific truths

Swan wrote:
you deny that the ice age ever happened

gfm7175 wrote:
Drats! Now I must admit that I'm confused again... What is 'Earth speed', exactly?

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Climate most certainly does change, in fact there is no known point in time when it was not changing.

Are you saying that there is more 'climate' today than there was yesterday? How are you quantifying this "change" in 'climate'?

Swan wrote:
The changes only vary in speed

Ohhhhh, I think I gotcha now... So you're saying that 'climate' today is FASTER than it was yesterday? I had no idea that climate has a measurable speed... Look at all the new things that I learn whenever Swan comes out to play!!!

Swan wrote:
and this speed is set at an Earth speed

Drats! Now I must admit that I'm confused again... What is 'Earth speed', exactly?

Swan wrote:
which can seldom be observable in a single human lifetime.

IOW, you haven't observed anything and are just making schizzit up. Got it.

Swan wrote:
The last change began 20,000 years ago when the last ice age crested and began to wane

The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Again the climate has always been changing.

Swan wrote:
There is more CO2 now than at other points in history and less CO2 now than other points in history,

Swan wrote:
since CO2 is one of the many factors that cause climate change the climate changes.

Swan wrote:
The deep ocean currents could also speed or reverse causing upwelling of cold water again effecting surface temps.

Swan wrote:
Your belief that the climate is a particular thing that there can be more or less of indicates that you have an absolutely zero scientific aptitude

Swan wrote:
to enable comprehensive understanding of what constitutes reality.

Swan wrote:
In other words the only reason that you graduated kindergarten is because the teacher did not want to struggle with your ineptitude again

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

Define 'climate change'.

The Earth conditions that put 1000 to 2000 feet of ice over half the area of the USA were the result of change.

What 'change'? It's still there. it's called the Antarctic ice cap.

Swan wrote:
By 10,000 years ago 90 percent of this ice had melted,

Were you around 10,000 years ago to see this? How do you know? Omniscience fallacy.

Swan wrote:
this process of icing over and melting is clearly change that was caused by the climate,

Climate doesn't cause anything.

Swan wrote:
or climate change.

What is changing? Define 'climate change'.

Swan wrote:
Since you can not accept scientific truths

Science is not truths. No theory of science is ever proven True. It is not possible to prove ANY theory True. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

Swan wrote:
you deny that the ice age ever happened

No. I deny that you know it ever happened.

Religion is not science. Redefinition fallacy.

Swan wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Clueless as the Rocky mountains are not made of lava at all, and they were not carved. The Rockies are caused by the various plates sliding under the North American plate

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Why does the media hide Al Gore at all cost?

When exactly was the climate not changing.

Define 'climate change'.

The Earth conditions that put 1000 to 2000 feet of ice over half the area of the USA were the result of change.

What 'change'? It's still there. it's called the Antarctic ice cap.

Swan wrote:
By 10,000 years ago 90 percent of this ice had melted,

Were you around 10,000 years ago to see this? How do you know? Omniscience fallacy.

Swan wrote:
this process of icing over and melting is clearly change that was caused by the climate,

Climate doesn't cause anything.

Swan wrote:
or climate change.

What is changing? Define 'climate change'.

Swan wrote:
Since you can not accept scientific truths

Science is not truths. No theory of science is ever proven True. It is not possible to prove ANY theory True. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

Swan wrote:
you deny that the ice age ever happened

No. I deny that you know it ever happened.

Religion is not science. Redefinition fallacy.

Actually the total land mass of the USA in miles is 3,531,905 square miles.

Swan wrote:
Currently 34,000 square miles of the USA are covered in glaciation,

Swan wrote:
at the height of the glacial maximum nearly 1,500,000 square miles of the USA was covered in glaciation.

Swan wrote:
That said since you deny that there was a glacial max

Swan wrote:
your warped little Biden diaper sniffing mind will never be able to comprehend reality or to comprehend what climate means which is why you keep asking for an answer.

Swan wrote:
LOL you believe in climate change but deny that there is a climate.

Swan wrote:When exactly was the climate not changing.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Clueless as the Rocky mountains are not made of lava at all, and they were not carved. The Rockies are caused by the various plates sliding under the North American plate

So I guess Yellowstone Natl Park doesn't exist, eh? Nor the Mammoth Lakes caldera, nor the various lava formations in the Rockies, eh?

So I guess rock slides never occur in the Rockies, eh?

What are these 'various' plates?

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
'Climate' doesn't actually change, since it's just a description of the environment that surrounds us. It really doesn't apply on a global scale. It's where you are standing, and changes when you moved to another location. Many places have very distinct, seasonal climate changes as well. It's pretty well certain the planet has gone through some long term changes. Huge reptiles, would have need a consistent, warmer, humid climate for thousands of years. They would have needed a lot of food as well. It got cold for a long time too, since the environment no longer supported large lizards. All long before mankind started burning stuff. It's our first inter-glacial. Nobody knows what's normal, or what to expect. Mankind had nothing to do with it. If we wish to survive, we need to adapt, rather than feeble/futile attempts to keep everything the same. It's not about changing the planet, its about political control, and economics. One government, for all people. One currency for all people. No borders, since the government owns everything, including your soul.

Climate most certainly does change, in fact there is no known point in time when it was not changing.

Are you saying that there is more 'climate' today than there was yesterday? How are you quantifying this "change" in 'climate'?

Swan wrote:
The changes only vary in speed

Ohhhhh, I think I gotcha now... So you're saying that 'climate' today is FASTER than it was yesterday? I had no idea that climate has a measurable speed... Look at all the new things that I learn whenever Swan comes out to play!!!

Swan wrote:
and this speed is set at an Earth speed

Drats! Now I must admit that I'm confused again... What is 'Earth speed', exactly?

Swan wrote:
which can seldom be observable in a single human lifetime.

IOW, you haven't observed anything and are just making schizzit up. Got it.

Swan wrote:
The last change began 20,000 years ago when the last ice age crested and began to wane

The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Again the climate has always been changing. There is more CO2 now than at other points in history and less CO2 now than other points in history, since CO2 is one of the many factors that cause climate change the climate changes. The deep ocean currents could also speed or reverse causing upwelling of cold water again effecting surface temps. Your belief that the climate is a particular thing that there can be more or less of indicates that you have an absolutely zero scientific aptitude to enable comprehensive understanding of what constitutes reality. In other words the only reason that you graduated kindergarten is because the teacher did not want to struggle with your ineptitude again

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Clueless as the Rocky mountains are not made of lava at all, and they were not carved. The Rockies are caused by the various plates sliding under the North American plate

So I guess Yellowstone Natl Park doesn't exist, eh? Nor the Mammoth Lakes caldera, nor the various lava formations in the Rockies, eh?

So I guess rock slides never occur in the Rockies, eh?

What are these 'various' plates?

Yellowstone is not the Rocky Mountains.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky mountains stretch some 3000 miles from Canada to New Mexico and were formed when the Pacific and other plates subducted under the North American plate.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky Mountains formed 80 million to 55 million years ago during the Laramide orogeny, in which a number of plates began sliding underneath the North American plate.

Swan wrote:
The angle of subduction was shallow, resulting in a broad belt of mountains running down western North America.

Swan wrote:
However please do not stop babbling as you are really quite amusing

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The stinkiest fart occurred 50,000 years ago when the worst nor'easter on record completely wiped out all land life on the east coast.

Of greater significance was the Alaskan explosion that happened on a Tuesday 186,000 years ago. Mountain tops reaching up to 47.3 miles into the heavens were blown to smithereens by a super valcano, presumably ordered by the E-Savior.

As the chunks of mountain flowed south and east on a river of hot lava, the Rocky Mountains were carved out. The intense heat was overwhelming for the polar bears and they fled north to the Arctic where they adapted to the frigid climate and remain there today.

Interesting stuff.

Clueless as the Rocky mountains are not made of lava at all, and they were not carved. The Rockies are caused by the various plates sliding under the North American plate

So I guess Yellowstone Natl Park doesn't exist, eh? Nor the Mammoth Lakes caldera, nor the various lava formations in the Rockies, eh?

So I guess rock slides never occur in the Rockies, eh?

What are these 'various' plates?

Yellowstone is not the Rocky Mountains.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yellowstone is INDEED in the Rocky Mountains! Not only do you fail at geology, you fail at geography as well!

Swan wrote:
The Rocky mountains stretch some 3000 miles from Canada to New Mexico and were formed when the Pacific and other plates subducted under the North American plate.

The Pacific plate is not being subducted under the North American plate. That fault is a shearing fault, and is west of the Rockies, even offshore along much of it's length. The only subduction at all is the Pacific Northwest micro-plate, caught like a gear between the two, and slowly turning as these two plates move.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky Mountains formed 80 million to 55 million years ago during the Laramide orogeny, in which a number of plates began sliding underneath the North American plate.

The Pacific plate is not subducting under the North American plate. It is shearing along it. The Pacific plate is moving north relative to the North American plate.

Swan wrote:
The angle of subduction was shallow, resulting in a broad belt of mountains running down western North America.

Not subducting. This offshore fault is not under the Rockies or any part of the Rocky Mountain system (which includes numerous volcanoes and even a caldera), and which includes lava formations along some of it's western slopes.

Swan wrote:
However please do not stop babbling as you are really quite amusing

You are describing yourself again.

Swan wrote:
The mountains that make up the park, along the rest of the Rocky Mountains, were uplifted during the Laramide Orogeny starting around 70-80 million years ago and ending roughly 35 million years ago.

Swan wrote:
More recently repeated glaciation events during the last several million years eroded thousands of feet of rock and sediment. This significant erosional period proceeded to carve the region, shaping the peaks and valleys we see today.

Swan wrote:
Wide U-shaped valleys leading broad cirques, steep arêtes, and tall mountain peaks are characteristic features found throughout the park.

Swan wrote:
So again you are wrong because aliens did not form the rockies, plate tectonics did.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
The mountains that make up the park, along the rest of the Rocky Mountains, were uplifted during the Laramide Orogeny starting around 70-80 million years ago and ending roughly 35 million years ago.

You weren't alive 80 million years ago or even 35 million years ago. You are spewing religion again.

Swan wrote:
More recently repeated glaciation events during the last several million years eroded thousands of feet of rock and sediment. This significant erosional period proceeded to carve the region, shaping the peaks and valleys we see today.

Wait...YOU said the Rockies weren't carved!

You are now locked in paradox.

Swan wrote:
Wide U-shaped valleys leading broad cirques, steep arêtes, and tall mountain peaks are characteristic features found throughout the park.

All because it wasn't carved, right??? Sorry dude, you cannot argue both sides of a paradox. It's irrational.

Swan wrote:
So again you are wrong because aliens did not form the rockies, plate tectonics did.

False dichotomy fallacy. I never either did. You don't know what formed them either. You are GUESSING.

Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized.

What plates do you think created the Rockies? It wasn't the Pacific plate...it's too far away and is not subducting.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
The mountains that make up the park, along the rest of the Rocky Mountains, were uplifted during the Laramide Orogeny starting around 70-80 million years ago and ending roughly 35 million years ago.

You weren't alive 80 million years ago or even 35 million years ago. You are spewing religion again.

Swan wrote:
More recently repeated glaciation events during the last several million years eroded thousands of feet of rock and sediment. This significant erosional period proceeded to carve the region, shaping the peaks and valleys we see today.

Wait...YOU said the Rockies weren't carved!

You are now locked in paradox.

Swan wrote:
Wide U-shaped valleys leading broad cirques, steep arêtes, and tall mountain peaks are characteristic features found throughout the park.

All because it wasn't carved, right??? Sorry dude, you cannot argue both sides of a paradox. It's irrational.

Swan wrote:
So again you are wrong because aliens did not form the rockies, plate tectonics did.

False dichotomy fallacy. I never either did. You don't know what formed them either. You are GUESSING.

Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized.

What plates do you think created the Rockies? It wasn't the Pacific plate...it's too far away and is not subducting.

Again reality does not change.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky Mountains, also known as the Rockies, are a major mountain range and the largest mountain system in North America. The Rocky Mountains stretch 3,000 mi (4,800 km)[1] in straight-line distance from the northernmost part of western Canada, to New Mexico in the southwestern United States. Depending on differing definitions between Canada and the United States, its northern terminus is located either in northern British Columbia's Terminal Range south of the Liard River and east of the Trench, or in the northeastern foothills of the Brooks Range/British Mountains that face the Beaufort Sea coasts between the Canning River and the Firth River across the Alaska-Yukon border.[2] Its southernmost point is near the Albuquerque area adjacent to the Rio Grande Basin and north of the Sandia–Manzano Mountain Range. Being the easternmost portion of the North American Cordillera, the Rockies are distinct from the tectonically younger Cascade Range and Sierra Nevada, which both lie farther to its west.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky Mountains formed 80 million to 55 million years ago during the Laramide orogeny, in which a number of plates began sliding underneath the North American plate.

Swan wrote:
The angle of subduction was shallow, resulting in a broad belt of mountains running down western North America. Since then, further tectonic activity and erosion by glaciers have sculpted the Rockies into dramatic peaks and valleys. At the end of the last ice age, humans began inhabiting the mountain range.

Swan wrote:
After explorations of the range by Europeans, such as Sir Alexander Mackenzie, and Anglo-Americans, such as the Lewis and Clark expedition, natural resources such as minerals and fur drove the initial economic exploitation of the mountains, although the range itself never experienced a dense population.

Swan wrote:
What do you think created the Rocky mountain range, can't be vulcanism as you claimed

Swan wrote:
because the Rockies are made of sedimentary rock not igneous rock,

Swan wrote:
or do you still believe that the aliens created the rockies

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
The mountains that make up the park, along the rest of the Rocky Mountains, were uplifted during the Laramide Orogeny starting around 70-80 million years ago and ending roughly 35 million years ago.

You weren't alive 80 million years ago or even 35 million years ago. You are spewing religion again.

Swan wrote:
More recently repeated glaciation events during the last several million years eroded thousands of feet of rock and sediment. This significant erosional period proceeded to carve the region, shaping the peaks and valleys we see today.

Wait...YOU said the Rockies weren't carved!

You are now locked in paradox.

Swan wrote:
Wide U-shaped valleys leading broad cirques, steep arêtes, and tall mountain peaks are characteristic features found throughout the park.

All because it wasn't carved, right??? Sorry dude, you cannot argue both sides of a paradox. It's irrational.

Swan wrote:
So again you are wrong because aliens did not form the rockies, plate tectonics did.

False dichotomy fallacy. I never either did. You don't know what formed them either. You are GUESSING.

Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized.

What plates do you think created the Rockies? It wasn't the Pacific plate...it's too far away and is not subducting.

Again reality does not change.

Phrase discarded. You obviously do not know the meaning of 'reality' and you are unable to define it.

Swan wrote:
The Rocky Mountains, also known as the Rockies, are a major mountain range and the largest mountain system in North America. The Rocky Mountains stretch 3,000 mi (4,800 km)[1] in straight-line distance from the northernmost part of western Canada, to New Mexico in the southwestern United States. Depending on differing definitions between Canada and the United States, its northern terminus is located either in northern British Columbia's Terminal Range south of the Liard River and east of the Trench, or in the northeastern foothills of the Brooks Range/British Mountains that face the Beaufort Sea coasts between the Canning River and the Firth River across the Alaska-Yukon border.[2] Its southernmost point is near the Albuquerque area adjacent to the Rio Grande Basin and north of the Sandia–Manzano Mountain Range. Being the easternmost portion of the North American Cordillera, the Rockies are distinct from the tectonically younger Cascade Range and Sierra Nevada, which both lie farther to its west.

The Cascades and Sierra Nevada range are both part of the system of mountains ranges collectively known as the Rockies.. The entire West is filled with mountains. It stretches across the entirety of the North American continent, continues down through central America (it's why Central America is above sea level) and on down through the entirety of South America. The North American portion is called 'the Rockies'.

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The Rocky Mountains formed 80 million to 55 million years ago during the Laramide orogeny, in which a number of plates began sliding underneath the North American plate.

What plates? You weren't alive 55 million years ago. You are spewing religion again.

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The angle of subduction was shallow, resulting in a broad belt of mountains running down western North America. Since then, further tectonic activity and erosion by glaciers have sculpted the Rockies into dramatic peaks and valleys. At the end of the last ice age, humans began inhabiting the mountain range.

You weren't alive to see this either. You are spewing religion again.

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After explorations of the range by Europeans, such as Sir Alexander Mackenzie, and Anglo-Americans, such as the Lewis and Clark expedition, natural resources such as minerals and fur drove the initial economic exploitation of the mountains, although the range itself never experienced a dense population.

Folks like Lewis and Clark left detailed notes of their journeys through the Rockies, ending their journey westward at what is now known as Astoria, OR. They nearly died there from exposure to the cold and wet conditions prevalent there. They mapped out several paths across the mountains. I-84 follows the more commonly used Lewis and Clark trail. I-90 follows a somewhat less commonly used trail.

As far dense populations, you forget cities like Boise, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, and smaller towns like Bozeman, Pendleton, Baker, or Spokane.

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What do you think created the Rocky mountain range, can't be vulcanism as you claimed

Some of it was, and some of it still is.

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because the Rockies are made of sedimentary rock not igneous rock,

It is made of both. Much of it is granite, an igneous rock. Sedimentary layers come form weathering of such rock.

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or do you still believe that the aliens created the rockies

The Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized.

For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

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Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

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This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

Buzzword fallacy. Void statement.

Swan wrote:
This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

'Rockies' is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
The Cascades AND the Sierra Nevada's are part of the Rocky Mountains. So is the Wasatch range, the Oquirrh range, the Chocolate range, the Siskiyou Range (where it comes right down into the sea), the Santa Rosa range, Couer d'Alene range (gateway to American Pass), Front range, San Juan range, etc.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

I am not talking about history. Neither are you.

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Psychoquckery. Insult fallacy.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

Buzzword fallacy. Void statement.

Swan wrote:
This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

'Rockies' is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
The Cascades AND the Sierra Nevada's are part of the Rocky Mountains. So is the Wasatch range, the Oquirrh range, the Chocolate range, the Siskiyou Range (where it comes right down into the sea), the Santa Rosa range, Couer d'Alene range (gateway to American Pass), Front range, San Juan range, etc.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

I am not talking about history. Neither are you.

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Psychoquckery. Insult fallacy.

Must be fun being a schizzo and being able to recreate the World in whatever image that you choose.

Too bad that you never held a real job other than table wiper at booger king

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

Buzzword fallacy. Void statement.

Swan wrote:
This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

'Rockies' is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
The Cascades AND the Sierra Nevada's are part of the Rocky Mountains. So is the Wasatch range, the Oquirrh range, the Chocolate range, the Siskiyou Range (where it comes right down into the sea), the Santa Rosa range, Couer d'Alene range (gateway to American Pass), Front range, San Juan range, etc.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

I am not talking about history. Neither are you.

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Psychoquckery. Insult fallacy.

Must be fun being a schizzo and being able to recreate the World in whatever image that you choose.

Too bad that you never held a real job other than table wiper at booger king

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery. No argument presented.

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Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

Buzzword fallacy. Void statement.

Swan wrote:
This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

'Rockies' is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
The Cascades AND the Sierra Nevada's are part of the Rocky Mountains. So is the Wasatch range, the Oquirrh range, the Chocolate range, the Siskiyou Range (where it comes right down into the sea), the Santa Rosa range, Couer d'Alene range (gateway to American Pass), Front range, San Juan range, etc.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

I am not talking about history. Neither are you.

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Psychoquckery. Insult fallacy.

Must be fun being a schizzo and being able to recreate the World in whatever image that you choose.

Too bad that you never held a real job other than table wiper at booger king

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery. No argument presented.

Facts.

Swan wrote:
1. You have never denied being a schizzo

Swan wrote:
2. You have not refuted never having had a real job

Swan wrote:
3. You still will not say what formed the Rockies if not plate tectonics as I said

Swan wrote:
4. You choose to argue for the sake of argument because without this you would have nothing to do.

Swan wrote:
5. Your Mommy wants you to stop wetting her bed

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
For all I care. I really don't care if aliens created the Rockies, or if they formed as you say, or if they are the result of volcanic activity. You are the only one speculating about any of this. You don't know. You are trying to prove a circular argument. That's a fallacy.

For me, the Rockies are beautiful. Sure, they can make travel difficult in winter, but their majesty and beauty make up for it. They also provide water to not only the West, but far into the plains as well.

LOL you are now claiming that nothing was real before I was alive.

Buzzword fallacy. Void statement.

Swan wrote:
This clearly indicates that you are mentally ill, just like your Mother who is also your sister before you.

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery.

Swan wrote:
LOL times 100, I hate to break it to you moron but the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ranges are not part of the rockies.

'Rockies' is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
The Cascades AND the Sierra Nevada's are part of the Rocky Mountains. So is the Wasatch range, the Oquirrh range, the Chocolate range, the Siskiyou Range (where it comes right down into the sea), the Santa Rosa range, Couer d'Alene range (gateway to American Pass), Front range, San Juan range, etc.

Swan wrote:
So tell us again about your communist heroes that write your history?

I am not talking about history. Neither are you.

Swan wrote:
So take your god damn schizzo meds already

Psychoquckery. Insult fallacy.

Must be fun being a schizzo and being able to recreate the World in whatever image that you choose.

Too bad that you never held a real job other than table wiper at booger king

Insult fallacy. Psychoquackery. No argument presented.

Facts.

Buzzword fallacy.

Swan wrote:
1. You have never denied being a schizzo

Psychoquackery. Insult fallacy.

Swan wrote:
2. You have not refuted never having had a real job

RQAA.

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3. You still will not say what formed the Rockies if not plate tectonics as I said

I don't care. This religion of yours seems to matter to you, and you alone here.

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4. You choose to argue for the sake of argument because without this you would have nothing to do.

You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy.

Swan wrote:
5. Your Mommy wants you to stop wetting her bed

Insult fallacy.

Trolling. No argument presented.

Swan wrote:Facts.

Swan wrote:1. You have never denied being a schizzo

Swan wrote:2. You have not refuted never having had a real job

Swan wrote:3. You still will not say what formed the Rockies if not plate tectonics as I said

Swan wrote:4. You choose to argue for the sake of argument because without this you would have nothing to do.

Swan wrote:5. Your Mommy wants you to stop wetting her bed

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Facts.

You don't know what a fact is.

Swan wrote:1. You have never denied being a schizzo

No sane person I know has ever denied being a schizzo (I like your term, by the way). Since Into the Night is sane, I expect no denial.

That leaves the schizzos who live in denial as the ones who deny being schizzos.

Swan wrote:2. You have not refuted never having had a real job

Correct. He has freely admitted to owning his own business and we both know that's not a real job. It's very complex.

Swan wrote:3. You still will not say what formed the Rockies if not plate tectonics as I said

You are mistating his position like a schizzo. He has stated that he didn't get a chance to watch the event because he was unavailable at the time. Then he asked you if you were fortunate enough to be in attendance and to observe the Rockies' formation and you have insisted that you were and that you did ... convincing me that you are a schizzo (great term, by the way).

Swan wrote:4. You choose to argue for the sake of argument because without this you would have nothing to do.

Having an argument is required to have a discussion. Having only pointless anecdotes supports preaching, not discussion. While I am certain that Into the Night has an interesting preaching or two in his hip pocket, he has shown a preference to discuss, as you have pointed out.

Swan wrote:5. Your Mommy wants you to stop wetting her bed

Was your entire post just one of projection?

Swan wrote:Says the schizzo who pictures the gears that he believes he has in his brain spinning out of time.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Says the schizzo who pictures the gears that he believes he has in his brain spinning out of time.

Are you saying that I don't have gears spinning in my brain? That's crazy talk.