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What the pHuck are bupHers, ocean acidipHication, and "pH"?


What the pHuck are bupHers, ocean acidipHication, and "pH"?03-05-2026 17:19
Im a BM
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Here I invite Into the Night to present here, for the first time, his DEFINITION for what he thinks pH is or what a buffer is.

True or false:

1. pH = -log(H+), pH is the negative logarithm of hydrogen ion (H+) molarity in an aqueous solution.

2. pH of 1.0 M (molar) nitric acid (HNO3) = 0. The logarithm of 1.0 = 0. The negative logarithm of 1.0 = 0.

3. Water itself is not a buffer for acid.

4. A buffer can resist large pH change in an aqueous solution upon addition of acid because it contains the conjugate base of a weak acid (carbonate, acetate, citrate, etc.)

5. Ocean acidification occurs as elevated concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide produce higher concentration of carbonic acid (H2CO3) in sea water. Carbonate ions, CO3(2-) are removed from solution as they neutralize carbonic acid to become bicarbonate ions (HCO3-). H2CO3 + CO3(2-) = 2HCO3- The adverse impacts to marine organisms occur because most species that form calcium carbonate shell, CaCO3, require threshold concentrations of carbonate ions, CO3(2-) to be bioavailable in sea water. Carbonate ion alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity, moles per liter) is being depleted as it buffers against significant pH change. Barely more than 0.1 pH unit decrease to about pH 8.2, but a SIGNIFICANT loss of carbonate ion alkalinity.

The correct answer is that all five statements are true.
03-05-2026 21:28
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Im a BM wrote:
Here I invite Into the Night to present here, for the first time, his DEFINITION for what he thinks pH is or what a buffer is.

RQAA
Im a BM wrote:
3. Water itself is not a buffer for acid.

Yes it is.
Im a BM wrote:
4. A buffer can resist large pH change in an aqueous solution upon addition of acid because it contains the conjugate base of a weak acid (carbonate, acetate, citrate, etc.)

Carbonate is not a chemical. Acetate is a salt. Citrate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
5. Ocean acidification occurs as elevated concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide produce higher concentration of carbonic acid (H2CO3) in sea water. Carbonate ions, CO3(2-) are removed from solution as they neutralize carbonic acid to become bicarbonate ions (HCO3-). H2CO3 + CO3(2-) = 2HCO3-

You cannot acidify an alkaline.
Carbon dioxide is not carbonic acid.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
Bicarbonate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
The adverse impacts to marine organisms occur because most species that form calcium carbonate shell, CaCO3, require threshold concentrations of carbonate ions, CO3(2-) to be bioavailable in sea water. Carbonate ion alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity, moles per liter) is being depleted as it buffers against significant pH change. Barely more than 0.1 pH unit decrease to about pH 8.2, but a SIGNIFICANT loss of carbonate ion alkalinity.

Plenty of clams, oyster, crabs, and other crustaceans.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
'Bioavailable' is not a word.
Alkalinity is not a chemical.
The pH of the oceans is unknown.
You cannot acidify an alkaline.
pH is not linear.

Im a BM wrote:
The correct answer is that all five statements are true.

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.


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04-05-2026 05:21
Im a BM
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Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
Here I invite Into the Night to present here, for the first time, his DEFINITION for what he thinks pH is or what a buffer is.

RQAA
Im a BM wrote:
3. Water itself is not a buffer for acid.

Yes it is.
Im a BM wrote:
4. A buffer can resist large pH change in an aqueous solution upon addition of acid because it contains the conjugate base of a weak acid (carbonate, acetate, citrate, etc.)

Carbonate is not a chemical. Acetate is a salt. Citrate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
5. Ocean acidification occurs as elevated concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide produce higher concentration of carbonic acid (H2CO3) in sea water. Carbonate ions, CO3(2-) are removed from solution as they neutralize carbonic acid to become bicarbonate ions (HCO3-). H2CO3 + CO3(2-) = 2HCO3-

You cannot acidify an alkaline.
Carbon dioxide is not carbonic acid.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
Bicarbonate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
The adverse impacts to marine organisms occur because most species that form calcium carbonate shell, CaCO3, require threshold concentrations of carbonate ions, CO3(2-) to be bioavailable in sea water. Carbonate ion alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity, moles per liter) is being depleted as it buffers against significant pH change. Barely more than 0.1 pH unit decrease to about pH 8.2, but a SIGNIFICANT loss of carbonate ion alkalinity.

Plenty of clams, oyster, crabs, and other crustaceans.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
'Bioavailable' is not a word.
Alkalinity is not a chemical.
The pH of the oceans is unknown.
You cannot acidify an alkaline.
pH is not linear.

Im a BM wrote:
The correct answer is that all five statements are true.

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.


"pH is not linear," = Into the Night

WOW! This is awesome... maybe we'll get some kind of DEFINITION finally.

ITN happens to be right this time, pH is not linear.

So, what IS pH, if it is NOT linear? Is that a SECRET?

You don't know enough about pH to explain why it's not linear, or what non linear thing it IS.

Here's a clue. It is an exponential function, the base ten logarithm. "log"

Another clue, the math symbol "p" for NEGATIVE logarithm. p stands for -log

"H". Symbol for hydrogen, but understood to be (H+), the molar concentration (molarity, moles per liter) of hydrogen ION

SO, pH = -log(H+). pH is the negative logarithm of the hydrogen ion molarity.

DON'T BE AFRAID. Let this "buzzword" become your friend, and you will understand why a 12 M concentrated hydrochloric acid has pH = -1.08
04-05-2026 19:02
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
WOW! This is awesome... maybe we'll get some kind of DEFINITION finally.

ITN happens to be right this time, pH is not linear.

So, what IS pH, if it is NOT linear? Is that a SECRET?

You don't know enough about pH to explain why it's not linear, or what non linear thing it IS.

Here's a clue. It is an exponential function, the base ten logarithm. "log"

Another clue, the math symbol "p" for NEGATIVE logarithm. p stands for -log

"H". Symbol for hydrogen, but understood to be (H+), the molar concentration (molarity, moles per liter) of hydrogen ION

SO, pH = -log(H+). pH is the negative logarithm of the hydrogen ion molarity.

DON'T BE AFRAID. Let this "buzzword" become your friend, and you will understand why a 12 M concentrated hydrochloric acid has pH = -1.08

Not possible. RQAA.


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06-05-2026 22:15
Im a BM
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Please tell us Into the Night, WHY "water itself is a buffer for acid".

You claim to be a "chemist". You assert that it is essential for scientists to define their terms. You require that new members define their terms before they are allowed to discuss "climate change". DEFINE YOUR TERMS gets repeated a lot.

PLEASE define your terms for "pH", "buffering", and "buffer"


MINE are:
"pH" = -log(H+), or that pH is the negative logarithm of hydrogen ion (H+) molarity (moles per liter).
"Buffering" is the action of the conjugate base of a weak acid to resist pH change in an aqueous solution upon addition of acid.
"Buffer" is the conjugate base of a weak acid, such as the bicarbonate ion, that becomes protonated upon addition of acid to resist pH change.


I'm sure ITN will tell me my definitions are WRONG.

I'm sure ITN will continue to keep his definition for chemistry terms SECRET.

Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
Here I invite Into the Night to present here, for the first time, his DEFINITION for what he thinks pH is or what a buffer is.

RQAA
Im a BM wrote:
3. Water itself is not a buffer for acid.

Yes it is.
Im a BM wrote:
4. A buffer can resist large pH change in an aqueous solution upon addition of acid because it contains the conjugate base of a weak acid (carbonate, acetate, citrate, etc.)

Carbonate is not a chemical. Acetate is a salt. Citrate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
5. Ocean acidification occurs as elevated concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide produce higher concentration of carbonic acid (H2CO3) in sea water. Carbonate ions, CO3(2-) are removed from solution as they neutralize carbonic acid to become bicarbonate ions (HCO3-). H2CO3 + CO3(2-) = 2HCO3-

You cannot acidify an alkaline.
Carbon dioxide is not carbonic acid.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
Bicarbonate is not a chemical.
Im a BM wrote:
The adverse impacts to marine organisms occur because most species that form calcium carbonate shell, CaCO3, require threshold concentrations of carbonate ions, CO3(2-) to be bioavailable in sea water. Carbonate ion alkalinity (acid neutralizing capacity, moles per liter) is being depleted as it buffers against significant pH change. Barely more than 0.1 pH unit decrease to about pH 8.2, but a SIGNIFICANT loss of carbonate ion alkalinity.

Plenty of clams, oyster, crabs, and other crustaceans.
Carbonate is not a chemical.
'Bioavailable' is not a word.
Alkalinity is not a chemical.
The pH of the oceans is unknown.
You cannot acidify an alkaline.
pH is not linear.

Im a BM wrote:
The correct answer is that all five statements are true.

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
07-05-2026 21:38
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
You require that new members define their terms before they are allowed to discuss "climate change". DEFINE YOUR TERMS gets repeated a lot.

What is 'changing' in climate, Robert?


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan




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