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West coast of England rainfall16-04-2016 22:50
DaveRecklaw
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Over the last two years, the rainfall on the west coast of the uk has risen dramatically, or so we are told. What has actually happened, is that we are lacking winter snowfalls.
So..., is this due to "global warming" or a slowing down in the Atlantic weather drift?
Ie: is global warming causing this or is it just a global weather shift due to the earths normal procedures.
03-05-2016 14:03
Glitch
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Weather is what you experience when you go outside. Climate is the accumulation of weather over an extended period. I don't think you can call two years of data "climate" just yet. Two of anything is hardly a trend.
12-05-2016 23:50
JamesTankard
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DaveRecklaw wrote:
Over the last two years, the rainfall on the west coast of the uk has risen dramatically, or so we are told. What has actually happened, is that we are lacking winter snowfalls.
So..., is this due to "global warming" or a slowing down in the Atlantic weather drift?
Ie: is global warming causing this or is it just a global weather shift due to the earths normal procedures.


If you're interested in the current and projected changes to climate in the UK, I would recommend you browse through the UK's Climate Change Risk Assessment for 2017. From one of the assessments research projects:

"Accounting for the requirements of freshwater ecosystems using existing regulatory approaches, current abstraction demand already exceeds the available water resource in some catchments in the UK today. This is particularly the case in the south and east of England, but also in a small number of catchments in the
north west of England, Northern Ireland and Scotland"

Available here: https://documents.theccc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CCRA-2-Updated-projections-of-water-availability-for-the-UK.pdf
21-05-2016 12:46
Tim the plumber
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^I rember a radio interview with Kent water who were talking about the fact that they had built a pipeline from Wales to supply them with water. It was a 6inch pipe and they had approached Londo water with the idea of putting a 9inch pipe in the same trench to supply twice the water for a small increase in cost. London water said no. They said no very often and Kent water could not work out why.

This was in the 1990's and the water table in the Downs (chalk hills in Southern England) had dropped very low due to deep boar holes being used. There was talk of it taking thousands of years for the water table to recover as the rate of extraction was only slightly less than the average rainfall.

Then we had 2 wet years. And flooding.

Yes, we might need to invest a little in some more water supply infrastructure. It will cost less than 1% of the money we spend on traffic lights.

Edited on 21-05-2016 12:46
21-05-2016 22:16
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Glitch wrote:
Weather is what you experience when you go outside. Climate is the accumulation of weather over an extended period. I don't think you can call two years of data "climate" just yet. Two of anything is hardly a trend.


Sure you can. You can call the last 24 hours climate if you want to. The phrase 'a long time' has no units of time, you see.


The Parrot Killer
24-05-2016 01:07
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Glitch wrote:Weather is what you experience when you go outside.

Weather is a walk in the park? Weather is a friendly pick-up soccer game? What specific outdoor experience is "weather"?

Glitch wrote:Climate is the accumulation of weather over an extended period.

Obviously you're referring to the industry standard for "extended period" as being anything over 75 milliseconds. That's fine.

The problem I have with your attempt at a definition is that weather does not "accumulate."

Glitch wrote: I don't think you can call two years of data "climate" just yet.

Is "climate" just data? So there is no such thing as the "climate system"?


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