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US Climate in June 202010-07-2020 05:10
DRKTS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE

Enjoy.
10-07-2020 06:15
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-07-2020 16:39
DRKTS
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The title of the thread should make that self explanatory - the US climate in June 2020
10-07-2020 17:08
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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DRKTS wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:What is the video about? Could you give a summary?
The title of the thread should make that self explanatory - the US climate in June 2020

So your answer is "no", i.e. your video isn't important enough for you to give a brief summary and the thesis statement (the point) of it all.

Well, if that's the case then your video certainly isn't important enough for me to waste my time watching it. Maybe you'll have better luck with someone else.



p.s. - I bet your stupid video doesn't even define "Climate" does it? You've never been able to.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-07-2020 18:00
James___
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DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE

Enjoy.



What I'd wonder is why the Atlantic Ocean seems to be cooler. Tropical storms and hurricanes have their beginnings near Lake Victoria in Africa. That's by the Continental Rift which seems to control wind currents relative to the coriolis effect.
With Florida being warmer, I'd have to find out if the average wind speed was less. With the rainfall totals that I've seen, they were above average and that could "trap" more heat in Florida.
The southeast is warmed by wind currents from the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico. In the Midwest, you have a depleted Ogallala Aquifer and Tornado Alley where it's warmer. It'd be interesting to checkout the barometric pressure and wind speeds. It's possible that the cool air from the West Coast is not crossing into Tornado Alley to mix with the warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico. And you did mention that tornadoes are running below average so far this year.
With what you showed, that is what it suggests. I might have to go back and revisit my thread on temperatures being predicted in advance by the Jet Stream.
Unfortunately some people don't understand the difference of 1.16º F. and 2º C.
They don't understand that's a difference of ~2.5º F.
And with the heatwave that is said to have just started, it might be more about the jet stream and air circulation in the Atlantic. But that would be a lengthy discussion.
10-07-2020 22:43
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).
10-07-2020 23:01
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).


It's funny how a Christian ridicules things by associating them with God. I mean prayer is a "holy link", right? And as a personal rule you dismiss such things.
10-07-2020 23:01
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:What is the video about? Could you give a summary?
The title of the thread should make that self explanatory - the US climate in June 2020

So your answer is "no", i.e. your video isn't important enough for you to give a brief summary and the thesis statement (the point) of it all.

Well, if that's the case then your video certainly isn't important enough for me to waste my time watching it. Maybe you'll have better luck with someone else.



p.s. - I bet your stupid video doesn't even define "Climate" does it? You've never been able to.

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He won't have any better luck with me. I feel the same way that you feel about this.
10-07-2020 23:16
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).


It's funny how a Christian ridicules things by associating them with God. I mean prayer is a "holy link", right? And as a personal rule you dismiss such things.

My usage of "link" referred to a hyperlink, not to a relationship/connection between two or more things.
10-07-2020 23:23
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).


It's funny how a Christian ridicules things by associating them with God. I mean prayer is a "holy link", right? And as a personal rule you dismiss such things.

My usage of "link" referred to a hyperlink, not to a relationship/connection between two or more things.



I think any reasonable person would consider prayer a "holy link". It's a connection to the Lord, right? Just shows that you and your friends will go to any extreme to be right.
And since I actually like science, I might be in the wrong place. Your stance seems to be purely political based "SOUL"ely" (solely) on your opinion. Leaves nothing to be discussed.
10-07-2020 23:36
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).


That is a very good policy on your part. In DRKTS' case, it can be looked at as a fallacy. This is a debate site but he is preaching. He simply posted the message "Hey everyone, this is what my preacher said . .. and neither he nor I will be taking any questions because questioning anything is not an option."



It's OK to preach, just not in a debate forum. Preaching precludes any debate.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-07-2020 23:47
keepit
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ITN, gfm, IBD,
I've noticed that all 3 of you seem to agree on everything and even seem to sound the same.
My question is - do you go to meetings or read a particular book?

Back when i got my education, agreement was discouraged. Thinking for oneself was the goal.
11-07-2020 00:04
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:Back when i got my education, agreement was discouraged. Thinking for oneself was the goal.

They did you a disservice. My schools taught me to understand the science and the math. On exams, all those who got the correct answers ... got the SAME answers! Yes, agreeing with the correct answer was always encouraged. Unique preferences about how we wanted science and math to be were discouraged. You should definitely demand a refund.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-07-2020 00:11
HarveyH55
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Mostly, I look at links, a risky. I have the slowest internet option, still available, dial-up. Many sites linked, are graphic heavy, and slow loading. A 5 minute video clip, 15-30 minutes to load/play. I really need some written incentive, to take the risk, of wasting a considerable amount of time, clicking on a link.

Some links, like YouTube, and several others, can be complete garbage. The person only what's to generate traffic, usually for profit. Some people equate the number of views, as quality rating.

Whether or not I'm curious, I won't ever click some cryptic, unreadable link, or a redirect, many try to do funky things to your computer. Might as well play online games, or free porn.

But, mainly on a forum, the link, is only a reference, if someone wants to see the original content (check quotes/context), or get more information (sited sources). The post should be impression of the material, opinion, speculation, or questions.

Basically, if there is nothing in your link, you feel is worth wasting a few seconds typing out something, that you thought was important in the link, that some else should click. There probably wasn't anything there of interest, for you. or anyone else. I have no trouble finding ways to waste time online, without help from other people.
11-07-2020 00:15
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
I think any reasonable person would consider prayer a "holy link".

'Link', meaning "hyperlink" is not 'link', meaning "a relationship/connection between two or more things". You cannot slide between the two meanings and act as if you are sticking to the same meaning...

James___ wrote:
It's a connection to the Lord, right?

In the second sense of the word 'link'? Yes. In the first sense of the word? No. See above.

James___ wrote:
Just shows that you and your friends will go to any extreme to be right.

I don't consider abiding by logic to be "go[ing] to any extreme".

James___ wrote:
And since I actually like science, I might be in the wrong place.

Then why do you regularly deny it?

James___ wrote:
Your stance seems to be purely political based "SOUL"ely" (solely) on your opinion. Leaves nothing to be discussed.

hahaha, I do enjoy a good pun or "dad joke" from time to time. Thanks for that!
11-07-2020 00:24
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:
And since I actually like science, I might be in the wrong place.

Then why do you regularly deny it?




At the end of the day, that's all you have. Isn't it? And that's sad.
11-07-2020 00:25
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE Enjoy.

What is the video about? Could you give a summary?

.

He won't be able to do so. This is why I have long since adopted the personal rule of dismissing all video links on sight (treating them as I would a "holy link"). I figure that if someone can't form their own arguments, or summarize what was said in a link that they provided, that it's not worth my time to peruse through it (since they seemingly didn't do so themselves).


That is a very good policy on your part. In DRKTS' case, it can be looked at as a fallacy. This is a debate site but he is preaching. He simply posted the message "Hey everyone, this is what my preacher said . .. and neither he nor I will be taking any questions because questioning anything is not an option."



It's OK to preach, just not in a debate forum. Preaching precludes any debate.


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Yup, a debate forum is not a church, and claiming that a religion is science is just being dishonest.
11-07-2020 00:26
keepit
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IBD,
I got a really good education and you missed my point by taking it so literally.
Among the things i learned were to think for myself, not to make false accusation, don't be rude, and look for a constructive way of looking at things.
Your ways are substandard to say the least. I don't think you got your education at us institution, did you?
11-07-2020 00:37
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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keepit wrote:
ITN, gfm, IBD,
I've noticed that all 3 of you seem to agree on everything and even seem to sound the same.
My question is - do you go to meetings or read a particular book?

Back when i got my education, agreement was discouraged. Thinking for oneself was the goal.

There's a simple reason why we "sound the same"... Can you guess what it is?

Hint: Think about what Logic, Mathematics, and Science are...
11-07-2020 00:38
HarveyH55
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keepit wrote:
IBD,
I got a really good education and you missed my point by taking it so literally.
Among the things i learned were to think for myself, not to make false accusation, don't be rude, and look for a constructive way of looking at things.
Your ways are substandard to say the least. I don't think you got your education at us institution, did you?


Sounds like you got most of your education in the 'wood shed'...

The test is really simple. Science is repeatable. Pretty much anyone can make the same observations, or setup and run the same experiment, and get pretty much the same results. The conclusions at the end, are opinion, speculation, and usually a pitch, for research funding. Anything you can't test, measure, independently of a claim, if faith. You have to believe it's not a scam. Anything faith based, can be considered religion.
11-07-2020 00:38
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:
And since I actually like science, I might be in the wrong place.

Then why do you regularly deny it?




At the end of the day, that's all you have. Isn't it? And that's sad.

Don't be sad


Get GLAD!
11-07-2020 00:44
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
IBD,
I got a really good education

I don't believe you.
keepit wrote:
and you missed my point by taking it so literally.

No, he got the point. You are denying yourself now.
keepit wrote:
Among the things i learned were to think for myself,

You do not think for yourself. You are constantly stealing the arguments from others.
keepit wrote:
not to make false accusation,
You make a lot of those too.
keepit wrote:
don't be rude,
f
You are rude. You insult people. You bring their mothers into questionable status. You say people are uneducated to cover your own illiteracy.
keepit wrote:
and look for a constructive way of looking at things.

You are not being constructive. You are fear mongering. You deny science. You deny mathematics.
keepit wrote:
Your ways are substandard to say the least.
You don't get to declare who is 'standard' or 'normal'. You are not the king.
keepit wrote:
I don't think you got your education at us institution, did you?

You are being rude.

No argument presented. Inversion fallacies. Semantic fallacies. Lies.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
11-07-2020 00:48
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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DRKTS wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbU2q18FMKE
Enjoy.
Really nice video.

So the point is made in the video that night time temperatures are are uniform in being above average. You have a theory as to why that is?

Generally speaking I think that the question is how "abnormal" or beyond a natural fluctuation recent warming might be.

This being the temp record:

And this being the fossil fuel use record:

It seems that the warming from 1910 to 1950 was likely not due to fossil fuel use would you agree?

So it seems that the distinction/discrimination between AGW and natural warming is missing from the video.


"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is valid for IBD or ITN
11-07-2020 01:40
keepit
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More baloney ITN. Blame yourselves, not someone else, for your mistakes.
11-07-2020 04:05
duncan61
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Tmids your chart has conveniently left out the 1930s warm period just like Micheal Mann did its called smoothing
11-07-2020 04:36
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
Tmids your chart has conveniently left out the 1930s warm period just like Micheal Mann did its called smoothing

What? I specifically mentioned that period of time in my post. The temperatures rose from 1910 to 1950, then there was cooling (which hilariously produced some articles in the 1970s about the coming ice age):

And now warming again from the 80s on.

So what are you talking about? What is wrong with that chart? (I just grabbed it online).

"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed:  The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is valid for IBD or ITN
11-07-2020 04:43
duncan61
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Also Judith Little did a personal check after reading about the alledged 2016 record breaking and her data for Australia showed we had cooled slightly since 1998.Thi s is the problem Warmazombies if on cog in the CC/AGW falls off the whole machine comes to a standstill and the crisis is averted
11-07-2020 06:51
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duncan61 wrote:...if on[e] cog in the CC/AGW falls off the whole machine comes to a standstill...
Sounds like you've got it all figured out.
11-07-2020 07:17
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:
And since I actually like science, I might be in the wrong place.

Then why do you regularly deny it?




At the end of the day, that's all you have. Isn't it? And that's sad.

Don't be sad


Get GLAD!



I actually mean that as a person you are sad. You think people are persecuting you and how you suffer for it. Do you need to be witnessed as one of the apostles?
I find this typical in people who have never done much in their lives. It's like the less they do the more they think of themselves. They need to justify their easy life. Your life lacks meaning and by attacking me, that shows how you're a warrior for your family. You're being the hunter bringing home the food and keeping your family safe. How neanderthal of you.

For you gfm7175;
Matthew 4:
7Jesus replied, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" 8Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9"All this I will give You," he said, "if You will fall down and worship me."...

Yet Jesus was alone on the mountain. Isn't the Devil's best trick in fooling people? This is because I am tired of your word play. After all, Christians like you want Jesus to own the world, right? Isn't that one Hell of a trick?
As you should know, I am well versed in scripture. When it comes to word games, Matthew 4:7 & 8 might be one as well. And when you can't prove me wrong, does that make me right? According to you it doesn't I really doesn't matter because of your mind games.
And that my fiend, er, friend is Jesus' Achilles Heal. Kind of why Christians shouldn't seek to trample on others or to convert this world into his kingdom. That then makes Jesus the Devil himself. And yet Christians do not understand that part of scripture. I hope you have a nice day considering how much fun word play is.


@All, can gfm7175 prove me wrong? It's not possible. And now he can go to church wondering if Jesus was really alone on the mountain. If you were a nicer person gfm7175, things wouldn't have escalated to this. But like too many Christians, you need me to look bad. Am tired of it. And I hope you enjoy the company in here. And God Bless all of you

Edited on 11-07-2020 07:36
11-07-2020 10:03
James___
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She's good at math. She says that if a person isn't doing well with their course work, they need better friends. But can we trust an Australian?
Some people as you can tell by the views she's gotten like math and science. Kind of why I'm in the wrong place.


https://youtu.be/-AyE1Wpgo3Q

And with the historical project that I'm working on, the guy who built it was a devout Christian. And at the same time basic calculus helps to show it. It's a lot of work but if I am successful, then I'll have a better life because of it. And this is where if I get better at math, then I'll create more opportunities for myself.

Edited on 11-07-2020 10:12
11-07-2020 13:15
DRKTS
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Again the title says it is a summary of the US climate data for June. It is the latest data which is mean to spur debate (which it has - see above).

I love to watch some of you twist yourselves into pretzels trying to find spurious excuses not to watch the video and try desperately to prevent others from doing so. Worse yet criticizing it without having watched it. It demonstrates how open minded some of you are ... i.e., not.

Why are some of you so afraid of seeing new information. No conclusion should be afraid of being challenged by opposing views. That is how science works. That is why I joined this group. However all I see from the "other side" are meaningless stock answers, and repeated questions that have been answered dozens of times before.
11-07-2020 17:33
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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DRKTS wrote:
Again the title says it is a summary of the US climate data for June. It is the latest data which is mean to spur debate (which it has - see above).

I love to watch some of you twist yourselves into pretzels trying to find spurious excuses not to watch the video and try desperately to prevent others from doing so. Worse yet criticizing it without having watched it. It demonstrates how open minded some of you are ... i.e., not.

Why are some of you so afraid of seeing new information. No conclusion should be afraid of being challenged by opposing views. That is how science works. That is why I joined this group. However all I see from the "other side" are meaningless stock answers, and repeated questions that have been answered dozens of times before.



I can't drop your video into excel and run a regression.

Post your (raw) data here in this thread along with your unambiguous definition of "Climate" and I'll be happy to take a look at it . .. and Harvey will be able to as well with his dial-up.

I love to watch you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to find spurious excuses not to simply post your raw data or your unambiguous definition of Climate so it won't be revealed that you don't have any valid raw data or unambiguous definition of Climate.

Once again, post your valid datsets here in this thread along with your unambiguous definition of "Climate" and I'll be happy to take a look at it . .. and Harvey will be able to as well with his dial-up.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-07-2020 19:20
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:


Post your (raw) data here in this thread along with your unambiguous definition of "Climate" and I'll be happy to take a look at it . .. and Harvey will be able to as well with his dial-up.




unambiguous is not possible. everything has more than 1 definition.
11-07-2020 20:41
DRKTS
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IBdaMann wrote:

I can't drop your video into excel and run a regression.

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Yes, you can. The video gives the source of the data (as all my videos do). It all there and so regress away to your heart's content.

I don't do spoon feeding, especially when I dont believe there is any desire to do said regression analysis and it is just an excuse not look at opposing information.

Brace yourself - next week the June global climate report will be available. Expect more disappointing news.
11-07-2020 21:03
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DRKTS wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:I can't drop your video into excel and run a regression.
Yes, you can. The video gives the source of the data (as all my videos do).

Once again, post your valid datsets here in this thread along with your unambiguous definition of "Climate" and I'll be happy to take a look at it . .. and Harvey will be able to as well with his dial-up.

... and no, I cannot drop your video into a spreadsheet. Moron.

I love to watch you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to find spurious excuses not to simply post your raw data or your unambiguous definition of Climate ... so it won't be revealed that you don't have any valid raw data or unambiguous definition of Climate.

DRKTS wrote: It all there and so regress away to your heart's content.

Once again, post your valid datsets here in this thread along with your unambiguous definition of "Climate" and I'll be happy to take a look at it . .. and Harvey will be able to as well with his dial-up.

DRKTS wrote:I don't do spoon feeding, especially when I dont believe there is any desire to do said regression analysis and it is just an excuse not look at opposing information.


I love to watch you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to find spurious excuses not to simply post your raw data or your unambiguous definition of Climate ... so it won't be revealed that you don't have any valid raw data or unambiguous definition of Climate.

Brace yourself - next week we'll be running through this exact same series of posts ... and you will still be twisting yourself into a pretzel and you still won't have any valid raw data or unambiguous definition of "Climate."

I look forward to seeing you then. Enjoy!

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-07-2020 21:07
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James___ wrote: unambiguous is not possible. everything has more than 1 definition.

All science is unambiguous. In fact, it is an absolute requirement of science. That's why formal specification languages are used, e.g. math.

However, if DRKTS wants to use natural language, e.g. English, to express a definition that I can convert to something unambiguous then that will be fine as well.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
11-07-2020 21:31
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keepit wrote:
More baloney ITN. Blame yourselves, not someone else, for your mistakes.

Void argument fallacy .


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
11-07-2020 21:33
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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DRKTS wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

I can't drop your video into excel and run a regression.

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Yes, you can. The video gives the source of the data (as all my videos do). It all there and so regress away to your heart's content.

I don't do spoon feeding, especially when I dont believe there is any desire to do said regression analysis and it is just an excuse not look at opposing information.

Brace yourself - next week the June global climate report will be available. Expect more disappointing news.


There is no data. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Temperature is not climate.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
11-07-2020 22:51
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why is being warmer disappointing news.Its 4 degrees here in perth I would rather it was 6
11-07-2020 23:09
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Here in Florida it's been warmer, mid-90s. Could do without the humidity, got drench working outdoors today, twice... But, got everything I needed done, before the thunderstorm. Though there was going to be second round, about an hour later, just a lot of window rattling nose, but no more rain (plenty the first time). Really don't see how being a few degrees warmer, is really going to be a apocalyptic event, of biblical proportions. I like the warm weather, and not having to put on layers of cloths in the winter.

Want to scare me, start selling the onset of the next ice age, like they did back in the 70s. I was living in Oregon then, and it was already cold and miserable most of the year...
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