09-07-2024 17:35 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
THIS IS THE 22,222 POSTS MILESTONE! With this post, ITN has now racked up twenty two thousand two hundred and twenty two of them. Too bad they didn't invite GFM back for the circle jerk. Into the Night DID acknowledge that when he joined the site almost NINE YEARS AGO, there were a LOT more active posters than there are now. "The Church of Global Warming isn't as popular as it used to be", was the explanation he offered for the dramatic decline in participation. My own interpretation is that the change occurred because climate-debate.com became much uglier than it used to be, before the Church of Thermodenial established its cult here. Even as more than one new member joined climate-debate.com every week, fewer and fewer members continued to actually participate. Eventually, even participation by cult members declined. About half of the most dedicated disciples of the Church of Thermodenial had also dropped out by the time I got here two years ago. My interpretation is that the site had gotten so ugly that new members joined, based on what the home page promised, but then actually looked at the nature of the discussion and changed their minds. By then, they had lost the element of surprise. Tree huggers could see that it was a gang rape ambush, so they never even put up their first posts. It wasn't as much fun for the Church of Thermodenial any more. But the few that still remain can join in these circle jerks, and praise each other for their scientific genius. Who could possibly know more about the TRUE nature of thermodynamics than an aircraft mechanic? Oh, and don't forget to mention PILOT. Into the Night wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Being an aircraft mechanic, chemist, engineer, industrial process and explosive expert isn't easy. It isn't even plausible. |
10-07-2024 03:50 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
Im a BM wrote: wOOt! Im a BM wrote: The following types of people tend to know a hell of a lot more than YOU do about thermodynamics: * scientists * aircraft mechanics * auto mechanics * equipment mechanics * boiler operators * power plant operators * certified HVAC technicians * masons * locomotive engineers * ship engineers * chemists * carpenters * plumbers * electricians * pyrotechnicians (including display operators and manufacturers) * industrial technicians (including most millwrights) * farmers (including ranchers) ALL of them realize that you cannot heat a warmer object with a cold one, like you try to do. ALL of them realize that you cannot create energy out of nothing, like you try to do. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
11-07-2024 01:39 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3330) |
2 billion people are online right now but only 4 of them are on this website. Why?
Edited on 11-07-2024 01:41 |
11-07-2024 03:50 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14932) |
keepit wrote: 2 billion people are online right now but only 4 of them are on this website. Why? If you were counting you then the actual number of people online is 3. If you are asking why the fLIck you are online right now, I suppose the answer is that the other three are just really unlucky. |
11-07-2024 04:34 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3330) |
ibd, So why are you here? Do you get paid? |
11-07-2024 06:26 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
keepit wrote: Math error: 2 billion does not equal four. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
12-07-2024 03:47 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14932) |
keepit wrote: ibd, So why are you here? Do you get paid? Are you offering to pay me? keepit, so why are you here? It's obviously not to learn anything. So why? |
09-01-2025 02:50 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season. Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions. But none of their clauses protect them from this new wave of wildfires. Those properties weren't even zoned as "adjacent" to at-risk fire country. Just one might have been uncanny random bad luck, but FIVE different wildfires tearing through the city. Climate change has taken it to a whole different level. And the actual human body count is rising as I type. This is truly horrible. IBdaMann wrote:[/quote]squeal over wrote: "Unprecedented" Wildfires TODAY. |
09-01-2025 08:56 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
After I posted this (below) I saw more about the wildfires that continue to rage. Then I saw the contribution made by Donald Trump, blaming Governor Gavin "Newscum" (news cum?) for the water shortage he caused somehow, making it so firefighters didn't have enough water to fight the fires. A whole lot of fire trucks were all tapping into the same system at the same time, and pressure dropped too low in parts of it. Diverting more Sacramento River water to the aquaduct, etc, would have made no difference whatsoever. Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season. Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions. But none of their clauses protect them from this new wave of wildfires. Those properties weren't even zoned as "adjacent" to at-risk fire country. Just one might have been uncanny random bad luck, but FIVE different wildfires tearing through the city. Climate change has taken it to a whole different level. And the actual human body count is rising as I type. This is truly horrible. |
09-01-2025 09:38 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14932) |
Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. You are once again being totally dishonest. California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless. Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented. Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season. California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death. Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions. They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California. |
09-01-2025 22:01 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school. Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with. Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress? Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment. |
12-01-2025 21:21 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
California's Changing Firescape There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days. Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly. There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff. And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either. In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation. For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion. They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet. Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet. There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned, and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain". But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s. But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted. I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration. None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California. And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that. IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school. Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with. Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress? Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment. |
13-01-2025 10:14 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
Im a BM wrote: That was before California removed water reservoirs to save a worthless or Sea Monkey. Back then, brush was cleared away as well. No longer. It just piles up until it burns. Then of course are the arsonists going around setting fires. Im a BM wrote: The fire insurers left. Too risky and the fascism was too great. Im a BM wrote: The fire insurers are already gone, dummy. Climate cannot change. Climate is not a branch of science. Im a BM wrote: Already happened. Im a BM wrote: You are no scientist. You deny and ignore theories of science. Im a BM wrote: Rain is naturally acidic. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is already in the soil. Dig it up and use it as fuel. You cannot acidify an alkaline. Im a BM wrote: No one is bleaching any coral. Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to thin the ozone layer. Man cannot destroy the ozone layer even if he wanted to. Im a BM wrote: What trees?? Rain is naturally acidic. Im a BM wrote: Because California stopped clearing brush and started removing reservoirs. Im a BM wrote: Self inflicted. Im a BM wrote: You were never a fire fighter, pretender. Im a BM wrote: They're called a pillar of fire, moron. Any wildfire of any size has them. They are easy to avoid. Stay out of the middle of burning material (sound advice for any firefighter!). Im a BM wrote: Democrats caused the conditions for this fire. Democrats support the arsonists starting these fires, since they are started in the name of the Church of Global Warming. And it is truly horrifying what has become of it. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
13-01-2025 21:03 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
"Rain is naturally acidic." - Into the Night Like those old fashioned "clocks" with a big hand and a little hand on a dial with numbers from one to twelve in a "clockwise" circle. Even when they were BROKEN and completely useless, TWICE during every 24 hour period they were actually CORRECT. Correct, Into the Night, "rain is naturally acidic". If we don't trust the technology to accurately MEASURE the pH of rain, even though it is pretty consistent with the pH = 5.6 reading, we can apply chemistry and physics to PREDICT the pH of rainfall based on the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide. Because water is basically UNBUFFERED against pH change, even those 420 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere (barely 0.04 %), with only the tiniest fraction of the CO2 that gets dissolved into raindrops binding to a water molecule to form carbonic acid, with carbonic acid only being among the WEAKEST of acids, rainfall pH STILL gets ACIDIFIED to pH = 5.6 Into the Night, I invite your opinion on the IBdaMann 500 meters by 600 meters and 20 meters deep reservoir of pure water, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION of how this rainfall pH affected by atmospheric CO2 might apply to a lake of pure water. IBdaMann says that 150 gallons of 11.6 Molar hydrochloric acid will bring this 6,000,000 cubic meters of pure water (6,000,000,000 liters) to pH = 6.95 According to MY calculations, this actually gives you pH = 5.96 IBdaMann hasn't yet showed us the math he used as the basis for defining the dimensions of reservoir to achieve pH = 6.95 Into the Night, would YOU be willing to share how a true "chemist" calculates it? For starters, is it even true that pH = -log[H+]? "RQAA" means "I have never answered this and I never will because I don't have a friggin' clue what the answer is." Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
13-01-2025 22:46 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
Im a BM wrote: Having trouble learning how to tell time, Robert? Im a BM wrote: Cliche fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the pH of all rainfall. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric content of CO2. You are no chemist. You are no scientist. You deny theories of science. Im a BM wrote: Water is a buffer. Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content. Im a BM wrote: Nope. CO2 just dissolves in water. Very little of it forms any kind of acid. Im a BM wrote: Don't let the term 'weak acid' fool you. Some weak acids are still very dangerous! Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the global rainfall or it's pH. Im a BM wrote: Lakes are usually alkaline. Im a BM wrote: No noticeable change, which was basically his point. Word games won't work, Robert. Im a BM wrote: You don't know what pH is or how to calculate it. Im a BM wrote: A randU, to make a point, which I agree with. Im a BM wrote: I'm not going to teach you chemistry, Robert. Im a BM wrote: RQAA Im a BM wrote: Redefinition fallacy. Stop mindlessly asking the same question over and over. Stop mindlessly repeating your posts over and over and over and over. That's spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
13-01-2025 22:56 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
To facilitate ease of reply with minimum number of keystrokes: yes = 3 keystrokes no = 2 keystrokes RQAA = 4 keystrokes, plus additional burden of capitalization Make it easy on yourself, Into the Night Just use two or three keystrokes and it is actually EASIER. Does pH = -log[H+]? A definitive reply to a very clear yes or no question is just 2-3 quick strokes. Aside from being more difficult to type, "RQAA" is an EVASIVE LIE. For a troll who hides behind word games, pretending to be some kind of "chemist" Doesn't even know what the heck pH IS. Such a convincing bluff. Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
13-01-2025 23:23 | |
Swan★★★★★ (6003) |
Im a BM wrote: One more time, with better detail this time IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
14-01-2025 00:16 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
Memories of My Summer at Happy Camp, California The summer of 1979 was a relatively uneventful fire season. Like most of them used to be. That summer I was a firefighter on a US Forest Service fire crew at the Happy Camp Ranger District station. It was a cool seasonal job for guys like me, about to turn 21 years old. They always laid everyone off by mid fall, so you could even schedule a college education around it. If you were lucky, there was actually a fire that took long enough to extinguish that it generated both overtime and hazard pay. We got one of those little fires not too far away. First we drove the truck as close as we could get. Then all the firefighters went, two at a time, into the helicopter to be airlifted into where it was a hand tool firebreak construction project. The sun was about to go down, and I was on LITERALLY the last chopper out to join the team chasing the fire. Problem is, folks on the ground thought that the last flight in WAS that last chopper out. Nobody was there on the ground to meet us. It was so disorienting being dropped in the dusk in the middle of nowhere where there is nobody to be seen anywhere, I almost walked into the tail rotor as I looked around trying to figure out WTF??? We could hear the chainsaws in the distance, so we knew what direction to go and chase them. But we didn't have flashlights, and trying to follow a freshly hacked "trail" in the dark up the hill has its hazards. So, I missed my one and only chance to fight an actual wild fire that summer as we camped out with no gear in the cold until the sun came back up. Didn't have to fear any wild animals and the fire was obviously running away faster than we could catch it. California's Changing Firescape There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days. Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly. There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff. And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either. In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation. For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion. They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet. Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet. There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned, and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain". But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s. But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted. I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration. None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California. And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that. IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school. Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with. Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress? Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment. |
14-01-2025 02:25 | |
Swan★★★★★ (6003) |
Im a BM wrote: Ok but rewrite the entire thing while using a thesaurus to double up your adjectives. IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
14-01-2025 20:27 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress. Somehow, Sacramento River water was supposed to be there for the fire hydrants in LA, but the Democrats just sent it out to sea. So, if you want to "politicize" wildfires, I want to "scientificize" the Sacramento River water situation. The evil DEMOCRATS in northern California hoard the good water in the Sacramento River when they're not turning on that giant spigot to just send it to the sea. The Shasta Dam contains a reservoir with a capacity to hold 5.615 CUBIC KILOMETERS of water. That is a SHITLOAD of water. One cubic kilometer is like a BILLION cubic meters. All that sweet good water being hoarded by the Democrats, who should just be turning on the giant spigot that gets it to the LA fire hydrants. But how good is that Shasta Dam water REALLY? The Iron Mountain mine, pretty close to Mt. Shasta, is putting out 100,000 - 200,000 MOLES of SULFURIC ACID every single day as acid mine discharge. Unless they can keep all that acid from getting into the reservoir... 5.615 cubic kilometers may be a SHITLOAD OF WATER, but 100,000 - 200,000 moles a day is a SHITLOAD OF ACID. What would the pH be if just ONE DAY'S worth of mine discharge went into a theoretical vast reservoir of absolutely pure water (without dissolved CO2 or contact with atmospheric CO2) the size of Lake Shasta? Even such an ENORMOUS VOLUME of water can only dilute so much acid before things get sour. But if you haven't picked up on the sarcasm, there is no gigantic spigot that enables DEMOCRATS to provide water from the Sacramento River to LA fire hydrants. Reality check. They don't like seeing Sacramento River water go to the sea because they want it for the SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY farmers. Sure, the San Joaquin Valley already has its own river. But that water is SHITTY, and it only gets worse the closer it gets to the Bay. About one eighth of the cropland in that valley is already out of commission because they need a place to put all the salt they can't get rid of. It makes sense that they want better water for irrigation. It doesn't make quite as much sense that they think they should be able to grow anything they want with it, no matter how high water-demanding a crop we're talking about. In any case, none of it was ever going to the LA fire hydrants. And even if they go ahead and excavate the new MEGA aquaduct underground to get more Sacramento River water to go south instead of out to sea... NONE of that GIANT SPIGOT water is destined, by any conduit or pathway, to supply LA fire hydrants. I forgot to do the Lake Shasta pH calculation if all the Iron Mountain acid mine drainage went directly into it in a closed system not in contact with the air. Memories of My Summer at Happy Camp, California The summer of 1979 was a relatively uneventful fire season. Like most of them used to be. That summer I was a firefighter on a US Forest Service fire crew at the Happy Camp Ranger District station. It was a cool seasonal job for guys like me, about to turn 21 years old. They always laid everyone off by mid fall, so you could even schedule a college education around it. If you were lucky, there was actually a fire that took long enough to extinguish that it generated both overtime and hazard pay. We got one of those little fires not too far away. First we drove the truck as close as we could get, where the other trucks and crews had assembled. Then all the firefighters went, two at a time, into the helicopter to be airlifted into the roadless area where it was a hand tool firebreak construction project. The sun was about to go down, and I was on LITERALLY the last chopper out to join the team chasing the fire. Problem is, folks on the ground thought that the last flight before us WAS that last chopper out. Nobody was there on the ground to meet us. It was so disorienting being dropped in the dusk in the middle of nowhere where there is nobody to be seen anywhere, I almost walked into the tail rotor as I looked around trying to figure out WTF??? We could hear the chainsaws in the distance, so we knew what direction to go and chase them. But we didn't have flashlights, and trying to follow a freshly hacked "trail" in the dark up the hill has its hazards. So, I missed my one and only chance to fight an actual wild fire that summer as we camped out with no gear in the cold until the sun came back up. Didn't have to fear any wild animals and the fire was obviously running away faster than we could catch it. California's Changing Firescape There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days. Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly. There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff. And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either. In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation. For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion. They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet. Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet. There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned, and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain". But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s. But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted. I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration. None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California. And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that. IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying. Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school. Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with. Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress? Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment. |
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