"Unprecedented" Wildfires TODAY. Thanks to Global Warming.

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Being an aircraft mechanic, chemist, engineer, industrial process and explosive expert isn't easy. It isn't even plausible.

Yep, it's plausible. I happen to know a few. You forgot to include "pilot," by the way.

Go to your nearest Air Force or Naval Aviation base and talk to the aircraft mechanics. Many are also private pilots, and many are studying engineering at night school to get their degree and to make a killing in the private sector.

Do you think he'll get past the base guards?

However, he doesn't have to. He can talk to other aircraft mechanics who do the same thing.

Remember he thinks aircraft mechanics have no knowledge of physics...that they are stupid grunts or something. But it's the aircraft mechanic that keeps those jets flying. Many are also pilots, so they can test their work, or move aircraft around as needed.

Im a BM wrote:
THIS IS THE 22,222 POSTS MILESTONE!

Im a BM wrote:
Who could possibly know more about the TRUE nature of thermodynamics than an aircraft mechanic?

keepit wrote: 2 billion people are online right now but only 4 of them are on this website. Why?

keepit wrote:
2 billion people are online right now but only 4 of them are on this website. Why?

keepit wrote: ibd, So why are you here? Do you get paid?

IBdaMann wrote:

squeal over wrote: "Unprecedented" Wildfires TODAY.

From The MANUAL:

Unprecedented: adjective
Per the Global Warming lexicon, whenever an ordinary or otherwise non-exceptional event occurs that some Climate Scientist wishes to imply requires a Settled Science explanation, the event is characterized as "unprecedented."

squeal over wrote: Thanks to Global Warming.

Where were the mangroves?

squeal over wrote:Right now, in Nebraska, Arizona, and Florida, wildfires that news reports describe as "unprecedented" are raging.

Our Marxist media needs for us to believe that standard events require a thettled thienth explanation.

The reason for these current fires is nothing other than the standard cause, i.e.
1. some fuel was ignited, and
2. the resulting fire spread.

squeal over wrote:What makes them "unprecedented"?

The Marxist need for people to believe in Global Warming, so that fear and panic can be more easily generated and spread more widely, thus enabling governments to more effectively control the public.

squeal over wrote:Well, in Nebraska they didn't even contemplate needing firefighters to be available.

I see that you are omniscient and know what large numbers of people are thinking, or are not thinking.

squeal over wrote:Nebraska never created a professional firefighting infrastructure to fight such fires because they have never seen them before.

Either what you wrote or ... Nebraska created the State Fire Marshall in 1929, in addition to the State Fire Commission that was created in 1909, to promulgate rules and regulations and safety standards for fire prevention and protection.

I wonder which one is correct.

squeal over wrote:This is such an important part of the vicious feedbacks to global warming

Is this another buzzword alert?

You're not going to explain any of these terms, right? Your purpose is to generate fear and panic, yes?

Do you have any idea why this is entirely the wrong site for this? Any idea at all?

squeal over wrote: ... adding tons and tons of additional greenhouse gas to the atmosphere

What is a greenhouse gas? Is it a gas that would be found in a greenhouse, e.g. oxygen and nitrogen?

Are you suggesting that there will be greater CO2 consumption by plants because of this?

squeal over wrote:, that it deserves a thread all of its own.

Of course fear mongering always deserves its own thread.












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Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

Im a BM wrote:
California's Changing Firescape

There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days.

Im a BM wrote:
Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly.

Im a BM wrote:
There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff.

Im a BM wrote:
And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either.

Im a BM wrote:
In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation.

Im a BM wrote:
For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion.

Im a BM wrote:
They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet.

Im a BM wrote:
Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet.

Im a BM wrote:
There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned,

Im a BM wrote:
and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain".

Im a BM wrote:
But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s.

Im a BM wrote:
But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted.

Im a BM wrote:
I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration.

Im a BM wrote:
None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California.

Im a BM wrote:
And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
California's Changing Firescape

There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days.

That was before California removed water reservoirs to save a worthless or Sea Monkey. Back then, brush was cleared away as well. No longer. It just piles up until it burns. Then of course are the arsonists going around setting fires.

Im a BM wrote:
Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly.

The fire insurers left. Too risky and the fascism was too great.

Im a BM wrote:
There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff.

The fire insurers are already gone, dummy. Climate cannot change. Climate is not a branch of science.

Im a BM wrote:
And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either.

Already happened.

Im a BM wrote:
In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation.

You are no scientist. You deny and ignore theories of science.

Im a BM wrote:
For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion.

Rain is naturally acidic.

Im a BM wrote:
They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet.

Carbon is already in the soil. Dig it up and use it as fuel.
You cannot acidify an alkaline.

Im a BM wrote:
Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet.

No one is bleaching any coral.

Im a BM wrote:
There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned,

It is not possible to thin the ozone layer. Man cannot destroy the ozone layer even if he wanted to.

Im a BM wrote:
and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain".

What trees?? Rain is naturally acidic.

Im a BM wrote:
But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s.

Because California stopped clearing brush and started removing reservoirs.

Im a BM wrote:
But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted.

Self inflicted.

Im a BM wrote:
I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration.

You were never a fire fighter, pretender.

Im a BM wrote:
None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California.

They're called a pillar of fire, moron. Any wildfire of any size has them. They are easy to avoid. Stay out of the middle of burning material (sound advice for any firefighter!).

Im a BM wrote:
And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that.

Democrats caused the conditions for this fire. Democrats support the arsonists starting these fires, since they are started in the name of the Church of Global Warming.

And it is truly horrifying what has become of it.

Im a BM wrote:
"Rain is naturally acidic." - Into the Night

Like those old fashioned "clocks" with a big hand and a little hand on a dial with numbers from one to twelve in a "clockwise" circle.

Im a BM wrote:
Even when they were BROKEN and completely useless, TWICE during every 24 hour period they were actually CORRECT.

Im a BM wrote:
Correct, Into the Night, "rain is naturally acidic".

Im a BM wrote:
If we don't trust the technology to accurately MEASURE the pH of rain, even though it is pretty consistent with the pH = 5.6 reading, we can apply chemistry and physics to PREDICT the pH of rainfall based on the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide.

Im a BM wrote:
Because water is basically UNBUFFERED against pH change,

Im a BM wrote:
even those 420 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere (barely 0.04 %),

Im a BM wrote:
with only the tiniest fraction of the CO2 that gets dissolved into raindrops binding to a water molecule to form carbonic acid,

Im a BM wrote:
with carbonic acid only being among the WEAKEST of acids,

Im a BM wrote:
rainfall pH STILL gets ACIDIFIED to pH = 5.6

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, I invite your opinion on the IBdaMann 500 meters by 600 meters and 20 meters deep reservoir of pure water, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION of how this rainfall pH affected by atmospheric CO2 might apply to a lake of pure water.

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann says that 150 gallons of 11.6 Molar hydrochloric acid will bring this 6,000,000 cubic meters of pure water (6,000,000,000 liters) to pH = 6.95

Im a BM wrote:
According to MY calculations, this actually gives you pH = 5.96

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann hasn't yet showed us the math he used as the basis for defining the dimensions of reservoir to achieve pH = 6.95

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, would YOU be willing to share how a true "chemist" calculates it?

Im a BM wrote:
For starters, is it even true that pH = -log[H+]?

Im a BM wrote:
"RQAA" means "I have never answered this and I never will because I don't have a friggin' clue what the answer is."

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
"Rain is naturally acidic." - Into the Night

Like those old fashioned "clocks" with a big hand and a little hand on a dial with numbers from one to twelve in a "clockwise" circle.

Having trouble learning how to tell time, Robert?

Im a BM wrote:
Even when they were BROKEN and completely useless, TWICE during every 24 hour period they were actually CORRECT.

Cliche fallacy.

Im a BM wrote:
Correct, Into the Night, "rain is naturally acidic".

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

Im a BM wrote:
If we don't trust the technology to accurately MEASURE the pH of rain, even though it is pretty consistent with the pH = 5.6 reading, we can apply chemistry and physics to PREDICT the pH of rainfall based on the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide.

It is not possible to measure the pH of all rainfall. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric content of CO2. You are no chemist. You are no scientist. You deny theories of science.

Im a BM wrote:
Because water is basically UNBUFFERED against pH change,

Water is a buffer.

Im a BM wrote:
even those 420 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere (barely 0.04 %),

It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content.

Im a BM wrote:
with only the tiniest fraction of the CO2 that gets dissolved into raindrops binding to a water molecule to form carbonic acid,

Nope. CO2 just dissolves in water. Very little of it forms any kind of acid.

Im a BM wrote:
with carbonic acid only being among the WEAKEST of acids,

Don't let the term 'weak acid' fool you. Some weak acids are still very dangerous!

Im a BM wrote:
rainfall pH STILL gets ACIDIFIED to pH = 5.6

It is not possible to measure the global rainfall or it's pH.

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, I invite your opinion on the IBdaMann 500 meters by 600 meters and 20 meters deep reservoir of pure water, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION of how this rainfall pH affected by atmospheric CO2 might apply to a lake of pure water.

Lakes are usually alkaline.

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann says that 150 gallons of 11.6 Molar hydrochloric acid will bring this 6,000,000 cubic meters of pure water (6,000,000,000 liters) to pH = 6.95

No noticeable change, which was basically his point. Word games won't work, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
According to MY calculations, this actually gives you pH = 5.96

You don't know what pH is or how to calculate it.

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann hasn't yet showed us the math he used as the basis for defining the dimensions of reservoir to achieve pH = 6.95

A randU, to make a point, which I agree with.

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, would YOU be willing to share how a true "chemist" calculates it?

I'm not going to teach you chemistry, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
For starters, is it even true that pH = -log[H+]?

RQAA

Im a BM wrote:
"RQAA" means "I have never answered this and I never will because I don't have a friggin' clue what the answer is."

Redefinition fallacy. Stop mindlessly asking the same question over and over. Stop mindlessly repeating your posts over and over and over and over. That's spamming.

Im a BM wrote:
To facilitate ease of reply with minimum number of keystrokes:

yes = 3 keystrokes

no = 2 keystrokes

RQAA = 4 keystrokes, plus additional burden of capitalization

Make it easy on yourself, Into the Night

Just use two or three keystrokes and it is actually EASIER.

Does pH = -log[H+]?

A definitive reply to a very clear yes or no question is just 2-3 quick strokes.

Aside from being more difficult to type, "RQAA" is an EVASIVE LIE.

For a troll who hides behind word games, pretending to be some kind of "chemist"

Doesn't even know what the heck pH IS. Such a convincing bluff.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
"Rain is naturally acidic." - Into the Night

Like those old fashioned "clocks" with a big hand and a little hand on a dial with numbers from one to twelve in a "clockwise" circle.

Having trouble learning how to tell time, Robert?

Im a BM wrote:
Even when they were BROKEN and completely useless, TWICE during every 24 hour period they were actually CORRECT.

Cliche fallacy.

Im a BM wrote:
Correct, Into the Night, "rain is naturally acidic".

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

Im a BM wrote:
If we don't trust the technology to accurately MEASURE the pH of rain, even though it is pretty consistent with the pH = 5.6 reading, we can apply chemistry and physics to PREDICT the pH of rainfall based on the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide.

It is not possible to measure the pH of all rainfall. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric content of CO2. You are no chemist. You are no scientist. You deny theories of science.

Im a BM wrote:
Because water is basically UNBUFFERED against pH change,

Water is a buffer.

Im a BM wrote:
even those 420 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere (barely 0.04 %),

It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content.

Im a BM wrote:
with only the tiniest fraction of the CO2 that gets dissolved into raindrops binding to a water molecule to form carbonic acid,

Nope. CO2 just dissolves in water. Very little of it forms any kind of acid.

Im a BM wrote:
with carbonic acid only being among the WEAKEST of acids,

Don't let the term 'weak acid' fool you. Some weak acids are still very dangerous!

Im a BM wrote:
rainfall pH STILL gets ACIDIFIED to pH = 5.6

It is not possible to measure the global rainfall or it's pH.

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, I invite your opinion on the IBdaMann 500 meters by 600 meters and 20 meters deep reservoir of pure water, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION of how this rainfall pH affected by atmospheric CO2 might apply to a lake of pure water.

Lakes are usually alkaline.

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann says that 150 gallons of 11.6 Molar hydrochloric acid will bring this 6,000,000 cubic meters of pure water (6,000,000,000 liters) to pH = 6.95

No noticeable change, which was basically his point. Word games won't work, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
According to MY calculations, this actually gives you pH = 5.96

You don't know what pH is or how to calculate it.

Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann hasn't yet showed us the math he used as the basis for defining the dimensions of reservoir to achieve pH = 6.95

A randU, to make a point, which I agree with.

Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night, would YOU be willing to share how a true "chemist" calculates it?

I'm not going to teach you chemistry, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
For starters, is it even true that pH = -log[H+]?

RQAA

Im a BM wrote:
"RQAA" means "I have never answered this and I never will because I don't have a friggin' clue what the answer is."

Redefinition fallacy. Stop mindlessly asking the same question over and over. Stop mindlessly repeating your posts over and over and over and over. That's spamming.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

Im a BM wrote:
Memories of My Summer at Happy Camp, California

The summer of 1979 was a relatively uneventful fire season. Like most of them used to be. That summer I was a firefighter on a US Forest Service fire crew at the Happy Camp Ranger District station.

It was a cool seasonal job for guys like me, about to turn 21 years old. They always laid everyone off by mid fall, so you could even schedule a college education around it. If you were lucky, there was actually a fire that took long enough to extinguish that it generated both overtime and hazard pay.

We got one of those little fires not too far away. First we drove the truck as close as we could get. Then all the firefighters went, two at a time, into the helicopter to be airlifted into where it was a hand tool firebreak construction project.

The sun was about to go down, and I was on LITERALLY the last chopper out to join the team chasing the fire. Problem is, folks on the ground thought that the last flight in WAS that last chopper out. Nobody was there on the ground to meet us. It was so disorienting being dropped in the dusk in the middle of nowhere where there is nobody to be seen anywhere, I almost walked into the tail rotor as I looked around trying to figure out WTF???

We could hear the chainsaws in the distance, so we knew what direction to go and chase them. But we didn't have flashlights, and trying to follow a freshly hacked "trail" in the dark up the hill has its hazards. So, I missed my one and only chance to fight an actual wild fire that summer as we camped out with no gear in the cold until the sun came back up. Didn't have to fear any wild animals and the fire was obviously running away faster than we could catch it.

California's Changing Firescape

There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days.

Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly.

There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff. And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either.

In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation.

For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion. They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet. Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet. There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned, and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain". But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s.

But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted.

I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration. None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California.

And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school.

Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with.

Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress?

Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

Somehow, Sacramento River water was supposed to be there for the fire hydrants in LA, but the Democrats just sent it out to sea.

So, if you want to "politicize" wildfires, I want to "scientificize" the Sacramento River water situation.

The evil DEMOCRATS in northern California hoard the good water in the Sacramento River when they're not turning on that giant spigot to just send it to the sea.

The Shasta Dam contains a reservoir with a capacity to hold 5.615 CUBIC KILOMETERS of water. That is a SHITLOAD of water. One cubic kilometer is like a BILLION cubic meters.

All that sweet good water being hoarded by the Democrats, who should just be turning on the giant spigot that gets it to the LA fire hydrants.

But how good is that Shasta Dam water REALLY?

The Iron Mountain mine, pretty close to Mt. Shasta, is putting out 100,000 - 200,000 MOLES of SULFURIC ACID every single day as acid mine discharge.

Unless they can keep all that acid from getting into the reservoir...

5.615 cubic kilometers may be a SHITLOAD OF WATER, but 100,000 - 200,000 moles a day is a SHITLOAD OF ACID.

What would the pH be if just ONE DAY'S worth of mine discharge went into a theoretical vast reservoir of absolutely pure water (without dissolved CO2 or contact with atmospheric CO2) the size of Lake Shasta?

Even such an ENORMOUS VOLUME of water can only dilute so much acid before things get sour.

But if you haven't picked up on the sarcasm, there is no gigantic spigot that enables DEMOCRATS to provide water from the Sacramento River to LA fire hydrants.

Reality check. They don't like seeing Sacramento River water go to the sea because they want it for the SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY farmers.

Sure, the San Joaquin Valley already has its own river. But that water is SHITTY, and it only gets worse the closer it gets to the Bay.

About one eighth of the cropland in that valley is already out of commission because they need a place to put all the salt they can't get rid of.

It makes sense that they want better water for irrigation.

It doesn't make quite as much sense that they think they should be able to grow anything they want with it, no matter how high water-demanding a crop we're talking about.

In any case, none of it was ever going to the LA fire hydrants.

And even if they go ahead and excavate the new MEGA aquaduct underground to get more Sacramento River water to go south instead of out to sea...

NONE of that GIANT SPIGOT water is destined, by any conduit or pathway, to supply LA fire hydrants.

I forgot to do the Lake Shasta pH calculation if all the Iron Mountain acid mine drainage went directly into it in a closed system not in contact with the air.



Memories of My Summer at Happy Camp, California

The summer of 1979 was a relatively uneventful fire season. Like most of them used to be. That summer I was a firefighter on a US Forest Service fire crew at the Happy Camp Ranger District station.

It was a cool seasonal job for guys like me, about to turn 21 years old. They always laid everyone off by mid fall, so you could even schedule a college education around it. If you were lucky, there was actually a fire that took long enough to extinguish that it generated both overtime and hazard pay.

We got one of those little fires not too far away. First we drove the truck as close as we could get, where the other trucks and crews had assembled. Then all the firefighters went, two at a time, into the helicopter to be airlifted into the roadless area where it was a hand tool firebreak construction project.

The sun was about to go down, and I was on LITERALLY the last chopper out to join the team chasing the fire. Problem is, folks on the ground thought that the last flight before us WAS that last chopper out. Nobody was there on the ground to meet us. It was so disorienting being dropped in the dusk in the middle of nowhere where there is nobody to be seen anywhere, I almost walked into the tail rotor as I looked around trying to figure out WTF???

We could hear the chainsaws in the distance, so we knew what direction to go and chase them. But we didn't have flashlights, and trying to follow a freshly hacked "trail" in the dark up the hill has its hazards. So, I missed my one and only chance to fight an actual wild fire that summer as we camped out with no gear in the cold until the sun came back up. Didn't have to fear any wild animals and the fire was obviously running away faster than we could catch it.

California's Changing Firescape

There used to be a time of year they called the "fire season". And then there was a DIFFERENT part of the year when there weren't a bunch of devastating wildfires. The good old days.

Insurance companies used to make money hand over fist, knowing the historic likelihood of the risks and calculating their rates accordingly.

There ain't gonna be no insurance company spokespeople trying to tell you not to believe the scientists about this climate change stuff. And maybe there ain't gonna be no insurance you can buy for it from them anymore, either.

In my glory days, the 1980s and 1990s, I attended many a conference where foresters and scientists were gathered to discuss California's forest situation.

For most of those forestry gatherings, I was with the "acid rain" scientists team, so I didn't always participate or attend every wildfire discussion. They didn't even HAVE any discussion about "carbon sequestration" or "ocean acidification" yet. Nobody had seen any coral bleaching yet. There was more immediate concern about us and the forests getting fried by UV as the ozone layer thinned, and all the trees that were being killed by "acid rain". But there was great concern about the increased frequency and severity of wildfires ALREADY OBSERVED by the 1980s.

But so many wildcards nobody predicted even in anticipation of worst case scenarios have played out. It always turns out that things are getting worse more rapidly than anyone imagined, and in ways nobody quite predicted.

I was even a fire fighter for the US Forest Service for a couple of summers, back when there was a finite "fire season" with hardly ever a catastrophic conflagration. None of the training was about how to escape from a "firenado". Some of those "firenados" in LA were practically like gigantic sideways blow torches in the vicious wind. Fires didn't used to burn like that in California.

And it is more than a little disgusting that Trump and his ilk are using it for absurd claims about their ENEMY, the DEMOCRATS, while the firefighters are dreading how bad it will get with TUESDAY'S anticipated wind, and no hope of putting it out before that.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote: Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in Los Angeles California. This is truly horrifying.

You are once again being totally dishonest.

California has wildfires every year. California has a fire season. Yes, every California fire has countless precedents ... countless.

Only someone who claims to be a biogeochemist or other mindless warmizombie type would make the absurd claim that a California wildfire is somehow unprecedented.

Im a BM wrote: January 8, 2025, apparently still in the peak of California's new year-round fire season.

California legislators and governors have done everything possible to ensure wildfires are more frequent and more severe, from preventing controlled burns, reducing available water supply and barring all other measures to prevent wildfires, ... just so they can turn right around and blame each and every wildfire on Global Warming ... so they can call for increased taxation to combat the problem they created ... without any intention of combatting the problem they created ... knowing that mindless biogeowarmizombies will defend the corrupt Marxist State government to the death.

Im a BM wrote: Insurance companies had already been ditching customers by the millions.

They have no choice. California State government has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the residents of California.

Another deranged nut job with a semi automatic rifle shoots up a bunch of kids at another school.

Let's say the shooter is still there, still firing shots while they try to guess how many dead bodies they might be dealing with.

Wasn't there some kind of code of honor where you don't jump in and "POLITICIZE" the crisis in progress?

Trump did this before as well. Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire. Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

It has political causes.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

That's exactly what happened.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

A fair number of ranchers and farmers have abandoned their farms and ranches and fled the SDTC back to the United States to start over. Those farms and orchards are returning to weeds now. Turns out no water, high taxes, and fascism doesn't work.

It's pretty grim in the SDTC now. I don't like going there. It's just depressing.

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

It has political causes.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

That's exactly what happened.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

A fair number of ranchers and farmers have abandoned their farms and ranches and fled the SDTC back to the United States to start over. Those farms and orchards are returning to weeds now. Turns out no water, high taxes, and fascism doesn't work.

It's pretty grim in the SDTC now. I don't like going there. It's just depressing.

I have only circumstantial evidence to support this assertion, but I am convinced that your penis is either of smaller than average size, or it simply does not function properly.

Whether it's a small dick, a limp dick, or just a small, limp dick.

Whatever it is, you are OVER COMPENSATING.

Swan wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

It has political causes.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

That's exactly what happened.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

A fair number of ranchers and farmers have abandoned their farms and ranches and fled the SDTC back to the United States to start over. Those farms and orchards are returning to weeds now. Turns out no water, high taxes, and fascism doesn't work.

It's pretty grim in the SDTC now. I don't like going there. It's just depressing.

I have only circumstantial evidence to support this assertion, but I am convinced that your penis is either of smaller than average size, or it simply does not function properly.

Whether it's a small dick, a limp dick, or just a small, limp dick.

Whatever it is, you are OVER COMPENSATING.

Sounds like penis envy 2 me

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

It has political causes.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

That's exactly what happened.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

A fair number of ranchers and farmers have abandoned their farms and ranches and fled the SDTC back to the United States to start over. Those farms and orchards are returning to weeds now. Turns out no water, high taxes, and fascism doesn't work.

It's pretty grim in the SDTC now. I don't like going there. It's just depressing.

I have only circumstantial evidence to support this assertion, but I am convinced that your penis is either of smaller than average size, or it simply does not function properly.

Whether it's a small dick, a limp dick, or just a small, limp dick.

Whatever it is, you are OVER COMPENSATING.

Sounds like penis envy 2 me

Penis envy?

COME ON!

You know that Into the Night is the wrong color to have a bigger dick than me.

What I suffer from is CHEMIST ENVY.

I wish I were a REAL chemist, like he is.

Then I might understand what all those gibber babble buzzwords mean.

Because if I understood chemistry, the words would NOT be meaningless to me.

I wish he would at least tell me where I can find a REAL chemistry textbook so he doesn't have to "RQAA" me, he can just refer me to a source that ANYONE can confirm to be valid.

I won't have to take his omniscient and infallible WORD for it, if he could just cite ONE chemistry textbook, or ONE chemistry paper, or even just ONE "chemist", besides himself. I guess "because I say so" will just have to do.

Swan wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
The trolls here echo the MAGA message to "politicize" the devastating LA wildfires still in progress.

It has political causes.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted irrelevant material...
Somehow policies of Democrats prevented the infrastructure from being able to deliver enough water to every fire truck that needed it in every remote location, to refill the trucks as fast as they could spray the water on the fire.

That's exactly what happened.

Im a BM wrote:
Because farmers weren't being given enough water to grow monsoon crops in a semi arid environment.

A fair number of ranchers and farmers have abandoned their farms and ranches and fled the SDTC back to the United States to start over. Those farms and orchards are returning to weeds now. Turns out no water, high taxes, and fascism doesn't work.

It's pretty grim in the SDTC now. I don't like going there. It's just depressing.

I have only circumstantial evidence to support this assertion, but I am convinced that your penis is either of smaller than average size, or it simply does not function properly.

Whether it's a small dick, a limp dick, or just a small, limp dick.

Whatever it is, you are OVER COMPENSATING.

Sounds like penis envy 2 me

Penis envy?

COME ON!

You know that Into the Night is the wrong color to have a bigger dick than me.

What I suffer from is CHEMIST ENVY.

I wish I were a REAL chemist, like he is.

Then I might understand what all those gibber babble buzzwords mean.

Because if I understood chemistry, the words would NOT be meaningless to me.

I wish he would at least tell me where I can find a REAL chemistry textbook so he doesn't have to "RQAA" me, he can just refer me to a source that ANYONE can confirm to be valid.

I won't have to take his omniscient and infallible WORD for it, if he could just cite ONE chemistry textbook, or ONE chemistry paper, or even just ONE "chemist", besides himself. I guess "because I say so" will just have to do.

Yup, that's penis envy

Im a BM wrote:
March 17, 2025 Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in South Carolina.

It used to be a rare event when such dry air and strong wind occurred in winter to make wildfires so hard to extinguish.

Im a BM wrote:
Insurance companies are redrawing the maps regarding where wildfire risk is a NEW hazard to raise rates about.
Insurance companies are leaving, Robert.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
You'd think the insurance companies would want to exploit the opportunity to do some price gouging, telling the customers that the climate change hoax gives them an excuse to charge more.

Im a BM wrote:
However, what the insurance companies are actually doing is simply dropping their coverage for fire damage in those areas now. They would rather not get ANY premiums than try to jack up the price high enough to cover the new risk.

Im a BM wrote:
As mortgage contracts require insurance, the inability to get insurance at ANY price puts a lot of mortgages in legal difficulty.

Im a BM wrote:
Whether or not any politician ever admits it has anything to do with anthropogenic climate change, they will soon have to deal with the economic reality of what happens when so many mortgage contracts become null and void because there is no insurance.

Im a BM wrote:
Will Big Government have to intervene and provide fire insurance everywhere?

Im a BM wrote:
Perhaps in time for the mid term elections.

Just one more source of some BIG inflation driving up the cost of living.

Im a BM wrote:
And we will see the map of uninsurable areas expand as the trends continue.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
March 17, 2025 Unprecedented wildfires TODAY in South Carolina.

It used to be a rare event when such dry air and strong wind occurred in winter to make wildfires so hard to extinguish.

Winds against the prevailing winds are most common, Robert. In Hawaii they are called the Kona winds. Up here in the PNW they are called the Chinook winds. Down in L.A. they are called the Santa Ana winds.

Im a BM wrote:
Insurance companies are redrawing the maps regarding where wildfire risk is a NEW hazard to raise rates about.
Insurance companies are leaving, Robert.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
You'd think the insurance companies would want to exploit the opportunity to do some price gouging, telling the customers that the climate change hoax gives them an excuse to charge more.

Climate cannot change. Go learn what 'price discovery' is. Insurance companies area leaving.

Im a BM wrote:
However, what the insurance companies are actually doing is simply dropping their coverage for fire damage in those areas now. They would rather not get ANY premiums than try to jack up the price high enough to cover the new risk.

Fire insurance companies are leaving. They can't make any money in the SDTC.

Im a BM wrote:
As mortgage contracts require insurance, the inability to get insurance at ANY price puts a lot of mortgages in legal difficulty.

Sucks, don't it? Then, with the house destroyed and the property uninhabitable, what is the mortgage on? Why pay it?

Im a BM wrote:
Whether or not any politician ever admits it has anything to do with anthropogenic climate change, they will soon have to deal with the economic reality of what happens when so many mortgage contracts become null and void because there is no insurance.

Climate cannot change.

Im a BM wrote:
Will Big Government have to intervene and provide fire insurance everywhere?

The SDTC already provides a government insurance, since insurance companies are leaving.

Im a BM wrote:
Perhaps in time for the mid term elections.

Just one more source of some BIG inflation driving up the cost of living.

The SDTC already provides insurance.

Im a BM wrote:
And we will see the map of uninsurable areas expand as the trends continue.

The SDTC already provides insurance. Insurance companies are leaving.

Im a BM wrote:
For those who are not familiar with the term "SDTC", I'll admit that I am not.

Im a BM wrote:
That doesn't mean "SDTC" is simply a meaningless buzzword.

Im a BM wrote:
There are things I've never heard of, but that is not proof that they don't exist.

Im a BM wrote:
As a professional chemist, I am more familiar with the term "DTSC". It is the California Department of Toxic Substance Control.

Im a BM wrote:
As the ITN reply was in regard to South Carolina wildfires enhanced by climate change,

Im a BM wrote:
maybe the SDTC is a South Carolina insurance provider?

Im a BM wrote:
I hope they can afford to expand their coverage.

Im a BM wrote:
I guess it's no problem if they just have to go to government deep pockets and make the taxpayers foot the bill.

Im a BM wrote:
I hope Elon Musk knows about this growing government expense and can figure out where to get the revenues to pay for it.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
For those who are not familiar with the term "SDTC", I'll admit that I am not.

Blatant lie. I've already explained what it means to you.

Im a BM wrote:
That doesn't mean "SDTC" is simply a meaningless buzzword.

It isn't. The Socialist Dictatorship of the Territory of California.

Im a BM wrote:
There are things I've never heard of, but that is not proof that they don't exist.

Stop lying, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
As a professional chemist, I am more familiar with the term "DTSC". It is the California Department of Toxic Substance Control.

You are not a professional chemist. You deny theories of science and chemistry.

Im a BM wrote:
As the ITN reply was in regard to South Carolina wildfires enhanced by climate change,

Climate cannot change.

[b]Im a BM wrote:
maybe the SDTC is a South Carolina insurance provider?

It is.[/b]

Im a BM wrote:
I hope they can afford to expand their coverage.

They can't. The SDTC is already broke.

Im a BM wrote:
I guess it's no problem if they just have to go to government deep pockets and make the taxpayers foot the bill.

Not enough. The SDTC is already broke.

Im a BM wrote:
I hope Elon Musk knows about this growing government expense and can figure out where to get the revenues to pay for it.

Elon Musk is not involved with the problems of the SDTC.

Im a BM wrote:
Apparently, SOMEWHERE in your 23,000 posts, you told us what "SDTC" means.

Im a BM wrote:
I hate to break your heart, but I haven't read enough of your posts to know all the secret jargon you invented.

Im a BM wrote:
I don't personally know anyone near where I live, in a state they actually call "California",

Im a BM wrote:
who gets their homeowner's insurance coverage for fire from SDTC.

Im a BM wrote:
State Farm and Farmer's are the companies providing the insurance for the homes that I have irrefutable direct personal knowledge about.

Im a BM wrote:
It used to be a profitable enough business.

Im a BM wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Florida is not yet under the thumb of SDTC tyranny.

Im a BM wrote:
But the climate change hoax is already working effectively as part of the conspiracy to take over the homeowner's insurance industry in Florida.

Im a BM wrote:
Yup. California SDTC insurance is getting ready to make a move on Florida.

Im a BM wrote:
Who will protect the private sector?

Im a BM wrote:
Will we even be ALLOWED to buy insurance from anyone besides BIG BROTHER?

Im a BM wrote:
And I'm still trying to get this STD thing straight.

I asked directly and explicitly "maybe the SDTC is a South Carolina insurance provider?"

To which the Chemistry Clown replied "it is".

Im a BM wrote:
South Carolina is where the unprecedented wildfires today were the post topic.

Im a BM wrote:
Southern California is not South Carolina.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
For those who are not familiar with the term "SDTC", I'll admit that I am not.

Blatant lie. I've already explained what it means to you.

Im a BM wrote:
That doesn't mean "SDTC" is simply a meaningless buzzword.

It isn't. The Socialist Dictatorship of the Territory of California.

Im a BM wrote:
There are things I've never heard of, but that is not proof that they don't exist.

Stop lying, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:
As a professional chemist, I am more familiar with the term "DTSC". It is the California Department of Toxic Substance Control.

You are not a professional chemist. You deny theories of science and chemistry.

Im a BM wrote:
As the ITN reply was in regard to South Carolina wildfires enhanced by climate change,

Climate cannot change.

[b]Im a BM wrote:
maybe the SDTC is a South Carolina insurance provider?

It is.[/b]

Im a BM wrote:
I hope they can afford to expand their coverage.

They can't. The SDTC is already broke.

Im a BM wrote:
I guess it's no problem if they just have to go to government deep pockets and make the taxpayers foot the bill.

Not enough. The SDTC is already broke.

Im a BM wrote:
I hope Elon Musk knows about this growing government expense and can figure out where to get the revenues to pay for it.

Elon Musk is not involved with the problems of the SDTC.