This is funny

James_ wrote:
One thing I have long considered is that CO2 is the driving force behind ice ages. Svante Asrhennius believed that as well.
And this violates ITN's belief that the number of oxygen elements in the Chapman cycle can not be increased nor decreased.
Of course this would require people to wonder why there is research that can be tried but isn't' being done.

James_ wrote:
One thing I have long considered is that CO2 is the driving force behind ice ages. Svante Asrhennius believed that as well.

James_ wrote:
And this violates ITN's belief that the number of oxygen elements in the Chapman cycle can not be increased nor decreased.

James_ wrote:
Of course this would require people to wonder why there is research that can be tried but isn't' being done.

James_ wrote:

James_ wrote:
One thing I have long considered is that CO2 is the driving force behind ice ages. Svante Asrhennius believed that as well.
And this violates ITN's belief that the number of oxygen elements in the Chapman cycle can not be increased nor decreased.
Of course this would require people to wonder why there is research that can be tried but isn't' being done.

Since I doubt anyone will really understand this. Scientists are not mentioning why increased levels of CO2 increase the frequency of ice ages.

James_ wrote:
An increase of less than 10% allows for an increase of 250% in the occurrence of ice ages.

James_ wrote:
Scientists are also not discussing how CO2 is saving the ozone layer from becoming so severely depleted that it would be an immediate threat.

James_ wrote:
And last but not least, check out the GWPs (global warming potentials) of GHGs.

James_ wrote:
Did you notice that those that destroy ozone are far and away the greatest threat

James_ wrote:
according to scientists.

James_ wrote:
And into the night (always small letters),

James_ wrote:
if you post that the number of oxygen elements in the Chapman cycle can be neither increased nor decreased

James_ wrote:
you will be showing why I think you are creating problems in this forum,

James_ wrote:
just getting even with Europeans

James_ wrote:
(anyone who learns science)

James_ wrote:
for the world changing

James_ wrote:
and not allowing Native Americans to maintain the life they had which was a bow and arrow and the tomahawk.

James_ wrote:
Get over it, okay ?

James_ wrote:
7 billion people in the world besides your people.

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

Since I doubt anyone will really understand this. Scientists are not mentioning why increased levels of CO2 increase the frequency of ice ages.

Probably because it doesn't.

I am not Native American. You have no idea who 'my people' are or what my heritage is.

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

Since I doubt anyone will really understand this. Scientists are not mentioning why increased levels of CO2 increase the frequency of ice ages.

Probably because it doesn't.

I am not Native American. You have no idea who 'my people' are or what my heritage is.

It is well known that when CO2 levels were up to 10% more than about 280 ppm that the frequency of ice ages increased. Scientists say that a warmer planet has more ice ages. I think that needs some explaining.
As to what you say about Native Americans, here is a link where you say
>> You mean the change that caused the tribes to be decimated through war and disease brought upon them by the Europeans? Have their land stolen? Have their men killed? Their women and children enslaved? Put them on 'reservations' under government welfare? That forced them to turn away from their culture and religion? <<
And yet you say this >>
James_ wrote:
just getting even with Europeans
Into the Night wrote:
Why would I want to do that? I like Europeans in general.
http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/view-without-the-van-alan-radiation-belts-d6-e1507.php#post_24234

Into the Night wrote:
You are denying the research that has already been done on CO2 and other atmospheric gases.

We know the properties of these materials. We've measured them. Nothing gives CO2 the power to add energy to the Earth. Nothing gives CO2 the power to prevent energy from leaving the Earth.

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
You are denying the research that has already been done on CO2 and other atmospheric gases.

We know the properties of these materials. We've measured them. Nothing gives CO2 the power to add energy to the Earth. Nothing gives CO2 the power to prevent energy from leaving the Earth.

CO2 doesn't add energy to the planet.
CO2 doesn't prevent energy from leaving the planet.

CO2 [and other Greenhouse Gases] warm the air, slowing down surface cooling conduction to the air, thus raising the temperature of the surface slightly.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America.

GreenMan wrote:
I thought they were all involved.

GreenMan wrote:
The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

GreenMan wrote:
The native people went along with it.

GreenMan wrote:
They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

GreenMan wrote:
But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people.

GreenMan wrote:
That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species.

GreenMan wrote:
And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

Interesting reading GreenMan. I'll need to take the time to read it some more later. I am not sure if you know but I did let ITN know that if some of the things that I am pursuing work out that I'll ask Britain to return the remains of Pocahontas to the Powhatans. I am about 16 times removed (generations) her grandson. I don't think they'll find a Powhatan tribe today. This would kind of let people know that Native Americans have been through a lot. At the same time it might be in keeping with some of their heritage to become environmentalists.

Into the Night wrote:


Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:


Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Many in Washington St. just like breathing spray paint sprayed onto a rag. Good way to fry someone's brain. Read about it all the time in area papers. Maybe you've been sniffing paint as well ? You seem to be nothing but a jerk.

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:


Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Many in Washington St. just like breathing spray paint sprayed onto a rag. Good way to fry someone's brain. Read about it all the time in area papers. Maybe you've been sniffing paint as well ? You seem to be nothing but a jerk.

Now your insult streams are just becoming bigotry. Both are fallacies.

James_ wrote:
And ITN I do believe that Litesong is your wife. How do you rate? All I've met is people like you who wants to make my life miserable because what you have at home isn't doing it for you.

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:


Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Many in Washington St. just like breathing spray paint sprayed onto a rag. Good way to fry someone's brain. Read about it all the time in area papers. Maybe you've been sniffing paint as well ? You seem to be nothing but a jerk.

Now your insult streams are just becoming bigotry. Both are fallacies.

I've seen it first hand.

James_ wrote:
And I think when it's in the newspaper its not fallacy but is a fact.

James_ wrote:
Besides, I could've graduated high school in the Seattle area at a school for Native Americans but said no. You're making that seem like I made the right decision. After all in my opinion you're just a hater.

James_ wrote:
Thing is you don't know me

James_ wrote:
but you will play your mind games with me.

James_ wrote:
For some reason you think I'm ignorant

James_ wrote:
because I lived in the Seattle area.

James_ wrote:
And at the same time since I think you are Native American

James_ wrote:
I think you're making them look bad.

James_ wrote:
All it seems your heritage is about is causing other people problems.

James_ wrote:
The world was and is changing.

James_ wrote:
From what I've seen from you it doesn't speak well for you.

James_ wrote:
p.s., anyone can do a search to find out what kinds of problems Native Americans have.

James_ wrote:
But ITN if people don't want to change when the times have changed that is on them.

James_ wrote:
Maybe you should learn something about climate change

James_ wrote:
and the environment ?

James_ wrote:
The only thing you're doing now is wasting other peoples time.

Into the Night wrote:
[quote]James_ wrote:
And ITN I do believe that Litesong is your wife./quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I do believe both litebeer and I will take that as an insult!

You REALLY don't pay attention, do you?

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
You are denying the research that has already been done on CO2 and other atmospheric gases.

We know the properties of these materials. We've measured them. Nothing gives CO2 the power to add energy to the Earth. Nothing gives CO2 the power to prevent energy from leaving the Earth.

CO2 doesn't add energy to the planet.
CO2 doesn't prevent energy from leaving the planet.

CO2 [and other Greenhouse Gases] warm the air, slowing down surface cooling conduction to the air, thus raising the temperature of the surface slightly.

Paradox. It takes energy to warm the air, dumbass.

CO2 is not an energy source.

The Sun's output is effectively constant.

The only way to warm the Earth is to increase the output of the Sun.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America.

Quite a few tried to stop it. You should really learn history some time.

GreenMan wrote:
I thought they were all involved.

Many were, one way or the other.

GreenMan wrote:
The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

Ah...the evils of forced conversion.

GreenMan wrote:
The native people went along with it.

No, they didn't. They rejected such missionaries (and should have).

GreenMan wrote:
They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

I see no science here. Only prophecy.

GreenMan wrote:
But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people.

I'm not. I'm slamming evil people, many from European stock for coming over here and decimating native people.

They also brought with them diseases that the Europeans were quite adjusted to, but the native people were not. That did far more damage than the wars. Many tribes were wiped out entirely by the new diseases that were minor for the Europeans. That's not slamming Europeans. It is pointing out an unfortunate circumstance.

GreenMan wrote:
That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species.

No one is killing the human species.

GreenMan wrote:
And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

So? Your point?

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

Interesting reading GreenMan. I'll need to take the time to read it some more later. I am not sure if you know but I did let ITN know that if some of the things that I am pursuing work out that I'll ask Britain to return the remains of Pocahontas to the Powhatans. I am about 16 times removed (generations) her grandson. I don't think they'll find a Powhatan tribe today. This would kind of let people know that Native Americans have been through a lot. At the same time it might be in keeping with some of their heritage to become environmentalists.

Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

Interesting reading GreenMan. I'll need to take the time to read it some more later. I am not sure if you know but I did let ITN know that if some of the things that I am pursuing work out that I'll ask Britain to return the remains of Pocahontas to the Powhatans. I am about 16 times removed (generations) her grandson. I don't think they'll find a Powhatan tribe today. This would kind of let people know that Native Americans have been through a lot. At the same time it might be in keeping with some of their heritage to become environmentalists.

Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Sounds like you need to do a little research on Native American heritage. They lived in harmony with nature, naturally. What is it that you makes you think otherwise? Do you have any examples of Native Americans doing any harm to the environment? There is plenty to show what the Europeans were doing. They had cut nearly every tree in Europe, when they discovered this continent. Their rivers and streams were so muddy and polluted that you couldn't drink the water. They brought that here. According to their prophecies, they will take it back with them, too. Oh yeah, that is supported by Biblical prophecy as well.

You and all yours, will vacate the West Coast, and most other parts of this continent. Go ahead and laugh. I am.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
You are denying the research that has already been done on CO2 and other atmospheric gases.

We know the properties of these materials. We've measured them. Nothing gives CO2 the power to add energy to the Earth. Nothing gives CO2 the power to prevent energy from leaving the Earth.

CO2 doesn't add energy to the planet.
CO2 doesn't prevent energy from leaving the planet.

CO2 [and other Greenhouse Gases] warm the air, slowing down surface cooling conduction to the air, thus raising the temperature of the surface slightly.

Paradox. It takes energy to warm the air, dumbass.

CO2 is not an energy source.

The Sun's output is effectively constant.

The only way to warm the Earth is to increase the output of the Sun.

It doesn't matter if you keep repeating the same bull shit over and over as you do. You simply have blinders on, and will not see the truth, because you don't want to know the truth. You just want to bask in the glory of making people feel better. The problem is that you are trying to make them feel better about destroying the future of humanity.

The Sun is the energy source. No one is disputing that.
The Sun Warms the Earth.
The Earth emits Electromagnetic Radiation as a Result of That Warmth.
Greenhouse Gases Convert Some of that Electromagnetic Radiation Into Thermal Energy, Adding to the Thermal Energy Already in the Air.
Surface Cooling Slows Down as a Result of That Additional Thermal Energy in the Air, Resulting in Additional Warming of the Surface.

GreenMan wrote:
See? And the Energy from the Sun DID NOT have to increase.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America.

Quite a few tried to stop it. You should really learn history some time.

GreenMan wrote:
I thought they were all involved.

Many were, one way or the other.

GreenMan wrote:
The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

Ah...the evils of forced conversion.

GreenMan wrote:
The native people went along with it.

No, they didn't. They rejected such missionaries (and should have).

GreenMan wrote:
They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

I see no science here. Only prophecy.

GreenMan wrote:
But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people.

I'm not. I'm slamming evil people, many from European stock for coming over here and decimating native people.

They also brought with them diseases that the Europeans were quite adjusted to, but the native people were not. That did far more damage than the wars. Many tribes were wiped out entirely by the new diseases that were minor for the Europeans. That's not slamming Europeans. It is pointing out an unfortunate circumstance.

GreenMan wrote:
That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species.

No one is killing the human species.

GreenMan wrote:
And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

So? Your point?

My point is that you are one of the ones who are directing people down the path indicated by this line in the Seventh Fire Prophecy. "The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet." That's not science, as you said. It is prophecy. It is also prophecy that clearly indicates Climate Change as the demise of humanity. It was written down a long time ago, before Climate Change was even considered to be a threat. So if you want to make it a science then you can, by trying to figure out how the prophets knew the future. This is evidence that they did.

GreenMan wrote:
And you know what else. Prophecy about Climate Change is just as relevant as Science about Climate Change. And a LOT more relevant than your rendition of Physics.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

Interesting reading GreenMan. I'll need to take the time to read it some more later. I am not sure if you know but I did let ITN know that if some of the things that I am pursuing work out that I'll ask Britain to return the remains of Pocahontas to the Powhatans. I am about 16 times removed (generations) her grandson. I don't think they'll find a Powhatan tribe today. This would kind of let people know that Native Americans have been through a lot. At the same time it might be in keeping with some of their heritage to become environmentalists.

Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Sounds like you need to do a little research on Native American heritage.

GreenMan wrote:
They lived in harmony with nature, naturally.

GreenMan wrote:
What is it that you makes you think otherwise?

GreenMan wrote:
Do you have any examples of Native Americans doing any harm to the environment?

GreenMan wrote:
There is plenty to show what the Europeans were doing.

GreenMan wrote:
They had cut nearly every tree in Europe, when they discovered this continent.

GreenMan wrote:
Their rivers and streams were so muddy and polluted that you couldn't drink the water.

GreenMan wrote:
They brought that here.

GreenMan wrote:
According to their prophecies, they will take it back with them, too.

GreenMan wrote:
Oh yeah, that is supported by Biblical prophecy as well.

GreenMan wrote:
You and all yours, will vacate the West Coast, and most other parts of this continent. Go ahead and laugh. I am.

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
I still do. It was evil men, who came from European stock, that treated the tribes so horribly. Other Europeans, good men, tried to stop it.

You DO have a problem with contextomies. That's why I left the link in place, so people could restore the context of what I said and why, if they were interested.

I wasn't aware that any good white men were trying to stop the decimation of the native people of America. I thought they were all involved. The missionaries even got involved, by burning their chiefs at the stake if they wouldn't convert to Christianity. That always resulted in the missionaries getting killed, which always resulted in an excuse for the cavalry to be sent in and slaughter the whole village.

The native people went along with it. They did what they had to do to maintain their lineage through a time that was predicted to come. And they did it with pride, because they knew that their time would come.

This is a good example, called the Seventh Fire Prophecy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_fires_prophecy
[In case anyone is interested in reading it in its entirety.]

Even though this was written way before anyone was concerned about Global Warming, it said this about the time of the "Seventh Fire":

Seventh Fire Prophecy says:

It is this time that the light skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. One road will be green and lush, and very inviting. The other road will be black and charred, and walking it will cut their feet.

I'm thinking that is the one we have recently entered. And so does anyone else who is familiar with the prophecy and Global Warming.

See, Science and Religion do mix well.

But, uh, I wouldn't be slamming Europeans for coming over here and decimating the native people. That's not as bad as what the Republican Party [including the likes of you, Parrot Killer] are currently doing, because you guys are saying we should continue full steam in our current attempt to decimate the entire human species. And from the sounds of it, you are a direct descendant of some of those "evil" Europeans who came here.

Interesting reading GreenMan. I'll need to take the time to read it some more later. I am not sure if you know but I did let ITN know that if some of the things that I am pursuing work out that I'll ask Britain to return the remains of Pocahontas to the Powhatans. I am about 16 times removed (generations) her grandson. I don't think they'll find a Powhatan tribe today. This would kind of let people know that Native Americans have been through a lot. At the same time it might be in keeping with some of their heritage to become environmentalists.

Heh. The LAST thing most Native Americans were were environmentalists.

Sounds like you need to do a little research on Native American heritage. They lived in harmony with nature, naturally. What is it that you makes you think otherwise? Do you have any examples of Native Americans doing any harm to the environment? There is plenty to show what the Europeans were doing. They had cut nearly every tree in Europe, when they discovered this continent. Their rivers and streams were so muddy and polluted that you couldn't drink the water. They brought that here. According to their prophecies, they will take it back with them, too. Oh yeah, that is supported by Biblical prophecy as well.

You and all yours, will vacate the West Coast, and most other parts of this continent. Go ahead and laugh. I am.

I remember when Billy Joel did a concert at the Tacoma Dome. It was reported in the Tacoma News Tribune that he asked his audience not to let happen to the Pacific Northwest what happened to New York. The East River is to polluted for it to be safe for anyone to be in it. That's when I became aware of things and started paying attention.

James_ wrote:
As far as prophecies go they might be warnings. I've heard since I was a kid that California was going to fall into the sea. If they ever have a large enough earthquake it's possible. Faults do give.

James_ wrote:
Still the world is overpopulated and much is wrong with it.

James_ wrote:
I'm just glad I don't live in some place like NYC. Life will probably go on for a long time after I'm gone.

James_ wrote:

Still the world is overpopulated and much is wrong with it.

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

James_ wrote:

James_ wrote:

Still the world is overpopulated and much is wrong with it.

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

Why do I need to die ? Are you suggesting I kill myself ? It seems that way.

James_ wrote:
That would explain why you will not leave me alone.

James_ wrote:
You want all Europeans to kill themselves

James_ wrote:
so that Native Americans can go back to a life where they used no written language and no mathematics.

James_ wrote:
I think your advocating someone to end their life shows that you are mentally ill.

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

James_ wrote:

Still the world is overpopulated and much is wrong with it.

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

Why do I need to die ? Are you suggesting I kill myself ? It seems that way.

Yes. I am suggesting you kill yourself. It is the logical thing to request any that suggests the death of others to cure 'overpopulation'.

James_ wrote:
That would explain why you will not leave me alone.

No, it explains why the 'overpopulation' argument is bullshit.

James_ wrote:
You want all Europeans to kill themselves

Only those that try the 'overpopulation' argument.

James_ wrote:
so that Native Americans can go back to a life where they used no written language and no mathematics.

They had both, dumbass. They still do.

James_ wrote:
I think your advocating someone to end their life shows that you are mentally ill.

Inversion fallacy. YOU are the one advocating the end of someone's life.

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

GasGuzler wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

James,
Stop taking everything personally. It's just an internet forum.
I'm quite sure ITN doesn't want anyone to die.....correct me if I'm wrong ITN.
He's simply making a point by creating a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous claim...and by saying you go first, he means IF you think the solution is a good one. Kind of like raising taxes. The people that want them raised are not the people paying the bill. He's just making a point. Put the rope away.

GasGuzler wrote:
Come on James! For all you know he's a robot with a bad haircut! He just wants you to prove him wrong. Can you do it?

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

James_ wrote:

Still the world is overpopulated and much is wrong with it.

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

Why do I need to die ? Are you suggesting I kill myself ? It seems that way.

Yes. I am suggesting you kill yourself. It is the logical thing to request any that suggests the death of others to cure 'overpopulation'.

James_ wrote:
That would explain why you will not leave me alone.

No, it explains why the 'overpopulation' argument is bullshit.

James_ wrote:
You want all Europeans to kill themselves

Only those that try the 'overpopulation' argument.

James_ wrote:
so that Native Americans can go back to a life where they used no written language and no mathematics.

They had both, dumbass. They still do.

James_ wrote:
I think your advocating someone to end their life shows that you are mentally ill.

Inversion fallacy. YOU are the one advocating the end of someone's life.

You are one sick individual. Anyone can read what I posted. I only commented that the world is over populated. I never made any suggestions about how to resolve it.

James_ wrote:
And yet you did just post that you want me to commit suicide.

James_ wrote:
I used to feel sorry for Native Americans and used to think of ways they might be helped but not anymore. You've shown me that they are not capable of changing with a changing world.

James_ wrote:
As for Billy Joel, his speaking out about how polluted the East River used to be probably helped to get it cleaned up.
[quote]James_ wrote:
Nope. Modern advances in industry is what cleaned it up, long be Billy Joel made his political comment.
[quote]James_ wrote:
That's because people talked about the problem and no one had to die to resolve it.

GasGuzler wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

James,
Stop taking everything personally. It's just an internet forum.

GasGuzler wrote:
I'm quite sure ITN doesn't want anyone to die.....correct me if I'm wrong ITN.

GasGuzler wrote:
He's simply making a point by creating a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous claim...and by saying you go first, he means IF you think the solution is a good one. Kind of like raising taxes. The people that want them raised are not the people paying the bill. He's just making a point. Put the rope away.

James_ wrote:

GasGuzler wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Oh this old argument again. Want to do something about overpopulation? Kill people off until it reaches some level you personally deem necessary for sustainability? You die first.

James,
Stop taking everything personally. It's just an internet forum.
I'm quite sure ITN doesn't want anyone to die.....correct me if I'm wrong ITN.
He's simply making a point by creating a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous claim...and by saying you go first, he means IF you think the solution is a good one. Kind of like raising taxes. The people that want them raised are not the people paying the bill. He's just making a point. Put the rope away.

I'll send you some links to consider but will quit posting in here. He's obsessive - compulsive. He will keep going.
Besides I did tell one woman I know that I'd show her some smart things.

James_ wrote:
[quote]GasGuzler wrote:
Come on James! For all you know he's a robot with a bad haircut! He just wants you to prove him wrong. Can you do it?

James_ wrote:
Here are 2 that are helping with over population.
First, South Sudan isn't the only country in the region facing mass starvation. A potentially historic famine is also threatening Nigeria, Somalia, and Yemen. Far from Western eyes and far from the headlines, an estimated 20 million people in those four countries are at risk of dying due to a lack of food.
...deleted Holy News Link...
Not a fact. An opinion made by a newspaper. Learn what a 'fact' is.
[quote]James_ wrote:
Europe needs many more babies to avert a population disaster
Across Europe birth rates are tumbling. The net effect is a 'perfect demographic storm' that will imperil economic growth across the continent
...deleted Holy News Link...
Not a fact. An opinion made by a newspaper. Learn what a 'fact' is.
[quote]James_ wrote:
I'll pm you some other info but have other things I can be doing. And ITN, the overpopulation thing might take care of itself.

James_ wrote:
Am glad you knew about these things because you do research before posting about something.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
You are denying the research that has already been done on CO2 and other atmospheric gases.

We know the properties of these materials. We've measured them. Nothing gives CO2 the power to add energy to the Earth. Nothing gives CO2 the power to prevent energy from leaving the Earth.

CO2 doesn't add energy to the planet.
CO2 doesn't prevent energy from leaving the planet.

CO2 [and other Greenhouse Gases] warm the air, slowing down surface cooling conduction to the air, thus raising the temperature of the surface slightly.

Paradox. It takes energy to warm the air, dumbass.

CO2 is not an energy source.

The Sun's output is effectively constant.

The only way to warm the Earth is to increase the output of the Sun.

It doesn't matter if you keep repeating the same bull shit over and over as you do. You simply have blinders on, and will not see the truth, because you don't want to know the truth. You just want to bask in the glory of making people feel better. The problem is that you are trying to make them feel better about destroying the future of humanity.

The Sun is the energy source. No one is disputing that.
The Sun Warms the Earth.
The Earth emits Electromagnetic Radiation as a Result of That Warmth.
Greenhouse Gases Convert Some of that Electromagnetic Radiation Into Thermal Energy, Adding to the Thermal Energy Already in the Air.
Surface Cooling Slows Down as a Result of That Additional Thermal Energy in the Air, Resulting in Additional Warming of the Surface.

You are again reducing entropy. Entropy always increases in any system. You are again violating the 2nd LoT.
You are again not allowing energy to escape. You are again violating the S-B law.

You can't just add energy to the Earth and forget about it. You can't just heat the lower atmosphere and forget about it.

You are still in paradox. Clear your paradox if you want to get any further.

GreenMan wrote:
See? And the Energy from the Sun DID NOT have to increase.

Because you again ignored the S-B law and the 2nd LoT, and are still arguing both sides of your paradox.