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There is "No such thing" as "Fossil fuel"?


There is "No such thing" as "Fossil fuel"?24-05-2024 20:25
Im a BM
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It would be very difficult to have any meaningful "debate" about climate change without sometimes making reference to "fossil fuel".

"Fossil Fuel" is a very common term that is almost universally understood to refer to petroleum, natural gas, and coal mined from underground deposits.

But among the tiny religious cult of anti scientists here at climate-debate.com, "fossil fuel" is a "meaningless buzzword".

The list of "meaningless buzzwords" is very long, according to the local trolls.

It includes "fossil fuel" and "climate change", among many others.

The inability to comprehend that these terms actually make sense to just about everyone else is the cause of perpetual word games that derail every attempt to discuss ANYTHING else.

An entomologist might come here and want to say something about a particular species of "butterfly" that just went extinct.

DEFINE YOUR TERMS!

Butter does not fly.

Flies are not made of butter.

"Butterfly" is a "meaningless buzzword".

No discussion of mass extinction allowed before endless word games about the need for unambiguous definition of terms such as "butterfly" can be resolved.

Which they cannot.

Because the trolls will ALWAYS refuse to believe that "fossil fuel" or "climate change" are valid terms that refer to something everyone ELSE understands.
24-05-2024 23:40
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
It would be very difficult to have any meaningful "debate" about climate change

Climate cannot change.
Im a BM wrote:
without sometimes making reference to "fossil fuel".

Fossils aren't used as fuel.
Im a BM wrote:
"Fossil Fuel" is a very common term that is almost universally understood to refer to petroleum, natural gas, and coal mined from underground deposits.

None of these are fossils. Oil and natural are hydrocarbons, coal is primarily carbon.
Im a BM wrote:
But among the tiny religious cult of anti scientists here at climate-debate.com,

You are describing yourself. Your religion is not science.


The Parrot Killer

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nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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24-05-2024 23:57
Im a BM
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Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
It would be very difficult to have any meaningful "debate" about climate change

Climate cannot change.
Im a BM wrote:
without sometimes making reference to "fossil fuel".

Fossils aren't used as fuel.
Im a BM wrote:
"Fossil Fuel" is a very common term that is almost universally understood to refer to petroleum, natural gas, and coal mined from underground deposits.

None of these are fossils. Oil and natural are hydrocarbons, coal is primarily carbon.
Im a BM wrote:
But among the tiny religious cult of anti scientists here at climate-debate.com,

You are describing yourself. Your religion is not science.



Yet, pretty much everyone I know will be able to understand what I refer to if I say "fossil fuel".

Petroleum, coal, and natural gas are called "fossil fuel". Get over it.

And even minimally educated people WON'T think that the term implies that fossils NEED fuel, or that fossils ARE fuel.

But if the only goal is to be a troll and distract from any meaningful discussion..

FOSSILS DO NOT BURN

And, of course, "Climate cannot change".

How do we know?

Because Into the Night decrees it to be so.
25-05-2024 00:24
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
Yet, pretty much everyone I know will be able to understand what I refer to if I say "fossil fuel".

Fossils are not used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
Im a BM wrote:
Petroleum, coal, and natural gas are called "fossil fuel". Get over it.

Oil is not a fossil. Coal is not a fossil. Natural gas is not a fossil.
Im a BM wrote:
And even minimally educated people WON'T think that the term implies that fossils NEED fuel, or that fossils ARE fuel.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
Im a BM wrote:
But if the only goal is to be a troll and distract from any meaningful discussion..

You aren't having any meaningful discussion.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
RE: Does anyone NOT know what "fossil fuel" is?29-05-2024 20:20
Im a BM
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The term "fossil fuel" has been commonly understood to refer to petroleum, coal, and natural gas mined from underground deposits as long a I can remember.

And I am a 65 year old scientist.

This ARTIFICIAL "controversy" over terminology is one reason that no "..discussion ever gets out of the starting gate".


Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
Yet, pretty much everyone I know will be able to understand what I refer to if I say "fossil fuel".

Fossils are not used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
Im a BM wrote:
Petroleum, coal, and natural gas are called "fossil fuel". Get over it.

Oil is not a fossil. Coal is not a fossil. Natural gas is not a fossil.
Im a BM wrote:
And even minimally educated people WON'T think that the term implies that fossils NEED fuel, or that fossils ARE fuel.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
Im a BM wrote:
But if the only goal is to be a troll and distract from any meaningful discussion..

You aren't having any meaningful discussion.
29-05-2024 21:32
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
The term "fossil fuel"

Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
Im a BM wrote:
has been commonly understood to refer to petroleum, coal, and natural gas mined from underground deposits as long a I can remember.

Oil is not a fossil.
Coal is not a fossil (though it may contain fossils).
Methane is not a fossil.
Im a BM wrote:
And I am a 65 year old scientist.

You deny and discard science, including the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. You also deny and discard chemistry. You also deny and discard mathematics.

Your religion is not science.
Im a BM wrote:
This ARTIFICIAL "controversy" over terminology is one reason that no "..discussion ever gets out of the starting gate".

You can't blame your word games on anybody else, Robert.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
31-05-2024 21:10
James_
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Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
The term "fossil fuel"

Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
Im a BM wrote:
has been commonly understood to refer to petroleum, coal, and natural gas mined from underground deposits as long a I can remember.

Oil is not a fossil.
Coal is not a fossil (though it may contain fossils).
Methane is not a fossil.
Im a BM wrote:
And I am a 65 year old scientist.

You deny and discard science, including the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. You also deny and discard chemistry. You also deny and discard mathematics.

Your religion is not science.
Im a BM wrote:
This ARTIFICIAL "controversy" over terminology is one reason that no "..discussion ever gets out of the starting gate".

You can't blame your word games on anybody else, Robert.



You're proof of fossil fuel you old dinosaur you with all the methane generating manure UB spreading here into the night until the sunrises again!

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