20-12-2019 22:17 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: tmiddles. Try to pay attention. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
20-12-2019 22:19 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
keepit wrote: C14 isn't dangerous due to it's radioactivity. It's in all living things. So you have more C14 in your body right now than a piece of coal does. So it's nothing to worry about. |
20-12-2019 22:39 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
I looked further into it and found that C14 emits LOW ENERGY beta radiation which if i recall isn't nearly as dangerous as high energy beta radiation. At my age i don't worry about such things so much. It takes time for effects of moderate radiation exposure. I'm not sure what Prof. Wysessions was concerned about when he said that coal use has caused more radiation release than nuclear power plants. |
20-12-2019 22:57 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Telomeres is genetic material at the end of chromosomes which protect the DNA from degradation form various sources. Telomere degradation leads to aging and death. Does anyone know if beta radiation from C14 has an effect on telomere reconstruction? There is so much C14 around. |
20-12-2019 23:41 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
keepit wrote: I just did a quick check. It's not C14. Coal power plants put out: "In fact, the coal ash emitted by a power plant—a by-product from burning coal for electricity—carries into the surrounding environment 100 times more radiation than a nuclear power plant producing the same amount of energy. At issue is coal's content of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements." So yes there is a radioactive risk in coal production but it's those two culprits |
21-12-2019 00:40 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Thanks for the clarification Tmid. You're the best. |
21-12-2019 00:44 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:keepit wrote: This image is wrong. You can't convert carbon to nitrogen by losing a proton (that makes boron, not nitrogen). The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:46 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: Probably trying to demonize coal, like other liberal idiots do. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:47 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
But that avoids the whole point of this post doesn't it? |
21-12-2019 00:48 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: None. That is not the function of telomeres either. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:48 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Liberal idiots you say ITN? |
21-12-2019 00:50 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:keepit wrote: Nope. Raw uranium or thorium are not dangerous when spread over a large area. You probably freak out about radon being everywhere too. Then's there's cosmic rays. Then is yourself. YOU are a source of radiation. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:50 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: No, it IS the point of the post. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:51 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: Yes. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 00:52 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
All true ITN but like i said you are trying to say that just because a little radiation is ok, then more radiation is also ok. |
21-12-2019 00:53 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
You would argue about the color of the sky on a rainy day ITN and that just doesn't lead to advancing learning does it? |
21-12-2019 01:06 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: Radiation is not additive. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 01:07 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: KBFI 202253Z VRB03KT 3SM -RA BR SCT005 BKN008 OVC023 09/08 A2975 RMK AO2 SLP074 P0014 T00890078 It is currently raining in the Seattle area. What is the color of the sky? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 21-12-2019 01:12 |
21-12-2019 01:09 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:Coal is a horrible energy source much of the time. Would this be a beautiful country to fly over ITN? Trump loves it Coal is for losers. |
21-12-2019 01:09 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
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Edited on 21-12-2019 01:12 |
21-12-2019 01:11 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
I knew you'd try to start a debate on the color of the sky on a rainy day. I would like to know your thoughts on the additive effects (or not) of radiation. I don't need flying lessons though. Haven't needed them in fifty years - except for now and then for type ratings. |
21-12-2019 01:13 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Tmid, We might not need even anthracite coal any more (used for the production of coke for the production of steel). Bill gates has a project to eliminate the need for anthracite. Nat gas is much less harmful. |
21-12-2019 01:19 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:Coal is a horrible energy source much of the time. Propaganda. Virginia Wyoming Is IS beautiful country to fly over. Two States that produce a lot of coal. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 21-12-2019 01:27 |
21-12-2019 01:21 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
keepit wrote:yeah natural gas works well. Coal is lame. Coal polutes the air. You dont need the fear of radioactivity or anything else to know bad air is dangerous. |
21-12-2019 01:25 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote: Blow up a mountain and leave it to ITN to still see the mountain after its gone. The power of self delusion. |
21-12-2019 01:29 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:keepit wrote:yeah natural gas works well. Tougher to transport. Modern pipelines leak a lot less of it though. tmiddles wrote: Is that why people use it? tmiddles wrote: Define 'pollution'. tmiddles wrote: Define 'bad air'. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 01:29 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: No mountains are blown up to mine coal. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 01:32 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Coal is being used less. Would you like to be a coal miner? |
21-12-2019 01:51 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14377) |
keepit wrote: No matter how radioactive we are there is not a good reason to add more radioactivity to us. There's a very good reason to add more C-14 to our bodies ... we need to breathe. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
21-12-2019 01:52 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: https://www.worldcoal.org/coal/coal-mining "The overburden of soil and rock is first broken up by explosives; it is then removed by draglines or by shovel and truck. " Too funny they call the surface "overburden" |
21-12-2019 01:57 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
IBTM, I'll take the CO2 with carbon 12. You can have the CO2 with carbon 14. I know, i know, you won't get the gist of this. |
21-12-2019 01:58 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14377) |
keepit wrote: You would argue about the color of the sky on a rainy day ITN and that just doesn't lead to advancing learning does it? I don't recall him ever arguing about the color of the sky on a rainy day however I *do* recall you arguing that printing dollars doesn't increase the number of dollars. You will argue anything stupid just for attention. You don't care if you are disrupting a thread and you don't care if your gibbering doesn't lead to advancing learning. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
21-12-2019 02:06 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
Trash talk IBDM. I don't know why you don't understand posts. Maybe you grew up in a different country with a different culture so that there is a "translation of meanings"problem. BTW, you forgot t include the words "to pay off debt" when you ranted about me and the subject of printing and paying off debt. Including the phrase "to pay off debt" changes the meaning. Edited on 21-12-2019 02:10 |
21-12-2019 02:10 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:keepit is one of the few of us on here actually interested in discussing things. By things I mean data, books, studies, websiteskeepit wrote: ... lead to advancing learning does it? Ever occur to you it might be more fun to actually debate the issues and not just the dictionary IBD? |
21-12-2019 02:54 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
ITN, Only one person has ever questioned my aviation credentials but he's still my friend. That Boeing Field aviation weather report has some facts i don't recognize but it's been a long time. It talks about cloud cover ranging from scattered to overcast at various altitudes, rain began... etc. My credentials for most of this science here came mostly from Great Courses, various popular books and educational TV and don't forget about Wikipedia, and a science degree from waaaay back. Tell me about your training. IBDM refused. |
21-12-2019 02:55 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: A bit less at the moment. There is still pretty good demand for the stuff though. No, I have other callings in life. I do help out coal miners with my instrumentation though. They seem to enjoy their job. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 02:56 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote: Not blowing up a mountain either. I have seen whole mountains mined for copper and iron though, in Nevada. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 02:57 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
keepit wrote: Wandering off topic this this one now? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
21-12-2019 02:59 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21559) |
tmiddles wrote:He's not discussing anything at the moment.IBdaMann wrote:keepit is one of the few of us on here actually interested in discussing things. By things I mean data, books, studies, websiteskeepit wrote: ... lead to advancing learning does it? tmiddles wrote: You are not discussing anything. You're just ranting. NAP The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 21-12-2019 02:59 |
21-12-2019 03:02 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3055) |
ITN, Just responding to IBDM's post on this thread at 1:58 about printing dollars. It sure does bug him. Printing dollars to pay off treasuries doesn't increase the amount of dollars through time because the treasuries had to be paid off with dollars at some point. The words "through time" are key here. |
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