Theory About Impeachment Proceedings

James___ wrote: "Just think of how painful it would be for 53 Republican Senators to sit in the halls of Congress, watching a live meltdown on national TV. That, alone, would be worth the price of admission."

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: "Just think of how painful it would be for 53 Republican Senators to sit in the halls of Congress, watching a live meltdown on national TV. That, alone, would be worth the price of admission."

Wishful thinking.

Trump has not yet even been impeached. Pelosi still needs to hand the Articles to the Senate for the President to be impeached. Until then, the House has only voted on a resolution to go ahead and impeach him ... which they now need to do.

Ergo, presuming the whole point of the delay is to impeach the President AFTER the SOTU, you can bet that the SOTU will be identical to a Trump Rally ... and not only will there be no meltdown ... it will become a 5% spike in the polls for Trump.

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keepit wrote:
For example, "free health care".
It wouldn't be free. The health care workers are still going to get paid and we're going to have to pay them, whether it's through taxes or health insurance premiums. It's just that the govt might be able to administer it more cheaply and efficiently than the health insurance companies.

HarveyH55 wrote:
You probably only watch CNN Trump clips... Trump can speak appropriately, for occasion and audience quite well. He'll give a great speech, interesting, entertaining enough to hold interest. The media will spend the follow month or so, fact checking, and picking at every detail they can, trying to spin it negative (to the left). Try to give credit to Obama, or any other democrat, for anything positive. Maybe give the democrat hopefuls a minute or two, to weigh in, on how they could do better.

Trump really is a master of media, he's keeps them focused on him, all day, everyday. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative, every one hears his name daily. Normal people, don't focus and obsess for long on negative things, we want to be happy, positive people.

Primaries start in about a month, and really doesn't look much like the democrat candidates have even started. They all agree on the same basic free stuff, spending lots of money we don't have, and expect to tax our employers, and the businesses that we buy goods and services from. Which of course, would get passed down mostly on everyone else. Of course, congress is mostly made up of millionaires, so those tax plans ar go no where, and just another doubling, or more, of the national debt. Fortunately, I don't think any of them serious care about climate change, just a vote gimmick.

Trump doesn't need to use the State of Union for campaigning, or criticizing, gets plenty of free camera time, everyday for that. He'll use the event, as intended, in a proper way, as expected from any president, no hype or exaggerations needed.

keepit wrote:
A lot of high schools are "free".
Community colleges are pretty cheap too. Forget free college but free community college would cost much less than you think.

Happy New Year Tmid!!!

tmiddles wrote:

keepit wrote:
For example, "free health care".
It wouldn't be free. The health care workers are still going to get paid and we're going to have to pay them, whether it's through taxes or health insurance premiums. It's just that the govt might be able to administer it more cheaply and efficiently than the health insurance companies.

Well in the sense that we have free:
Fire departments
Police
Military
Primary schools
Roads
Parks
Libraries

keepit wrote:
A lot of high schools are "free".
Community colleges are pretty cheap too. Forget free college but free community college would cost much less than you think.

Happy New Year Tmid!!!

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Into the Night wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch, dude.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch, dude.

It depends on what you consider paying for it. Homeless people get free meals.

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch, dude.

It depends on what you consider paying for it. Homeless people get free meals.

Nope. Not a single one. Someone has to pay for those meals.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch, dude.

It depends on what you consider paying for it. Homeless people get free meals.

Nope. Not a single one. Someone has to pay for those meals.

It's free to them.

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
None of it is free, dude. All of these services cost something. They have to be paid for.

OMG

ITN would be the one to claim there is no such thing as a free lunch because food is worth money.

What if he's actually a bot? It's possible.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch, dude.

It depends on what you consider paying for it. Homeless people get free meals.

Nope. Not a single one. Someone has to pay for those meals.

It's free to them.

Irrelevant.

James___ wrote:
RDF.

tmiddles wrote:

James___ wrote:
RDF.

Guess what James, when you win the lottery it's not free money. Because the money came from someone else and so it's not free. ITN is so smart he seems stupid, or maybe so stupid he seems really stupid, one of those.

tmiddles wrote:

James___ wrote:
RDF.

Guess what James, when you win the lottery it's not free money. Because the money came from someone else and so it's not free. ITN is so smart he seems stupid, or maybe so stupid he seems really stupid, one of those.

James___ wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

James___ wrote:
RDF.

Guess what James, when you win the lottery it's not free money. Because the money came from someone else and so it's not free. ITN is so smart he seems stupid, or maybe so stupid he seems really stupid, one of those.

As a kid, Americans didn't like me because of my Norwegian accent. As a member of the Armed Forces, doctors let me lose a significant amount of my hearing because I didn't sound like an American.
I know everything comes at a cost. That's called the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
To get racial, the Powhatan tribe does not exist any more. It is personal for me.
Racial purity matters. I'm not racially pure. You and ITN are.
On the other hand Pocahontas is my great grandmother. She had no racially pure children. She ended up having impure kids like me.
Deal with it because I deal with people like you and ITN all of the time.

tmiddles wrote:

James___ wrote:
RDF.

Guess what James, when you win the lottery it's not free money. Because the money came from someone else and so it's not free. ITN is so smart he seems stupid, or maybe so stupid he seems really stupid, one of those.

keepit wrote:
I'm ok with helping to fund those "free" services and it would be beneficial to add medical care and community college to the list.

keepit wrote:
I'm ok with helping to fund those "free" services and it would be beneficial to add medical care and community college to the list.

keepit wrote:
Not absolute BS. But i do understand the analogy even though i wouldn't necessarily use that terminology.

keepit wrote:
Let's not pretend that someone doesn't have to pay for it in any case.
But to answer your question, taxes would pay for it.

GasGuzzler wrote:
Which one of the following "free" services...

keepit wrote:
Tmid,
It's one semantics dispute after another. I don't know what the point of it is.

tmiddles wrote:

keepit wrote:
Tmid,
It's one semantics dispute after another. I don't know what the point of it is.

If you can't win argument A run to argument B is the point. They are wrong and they know it so they try to pick a different fight.

GasGuzzler wrote:"free"... pay for each..with MONEY.