| 04-05-2026 19:18 |
Into the Night ★★★★★
(23897) |
Im a BM wrote:
In October 2015, Trafn responded to new member Into the Night's first post.
In the Spring of 2022 I got to see how Into the Night responded to new members. For two years I got to see many examples of how differently Into the Night behaved, compared to how Trafn did in this post. But then new members stopped joining about two years ago. 100% STOP, no new members attempting to discuss climate in two years now. Google stopped showing climate-debate.com prominently among search results for climate discussion websites.
New members won't join to listen to your spamming, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
Members who displayed common decency in discussion, such as Trafn, left the website. There used to be a lot of them.
Trafn didn't leave. He was banned.
Im a BM wrote:
Trafn didn't ridicule Into the Night's first post. Didn't accuse him of being a liar. Didn't tell him that he denies science. Didn't tell him that he is a scientifically illiterate moron. Common decency was the rule until about ten years ago.
Trafn denied the same science you do. You are a scientifically illiterate moron, pretending to be a scientist, all while denying theories of science.
Im a BM wrote:
It would have been EASY for Trafn to ridicule the "science" presented in Into the Night's first post. Trafn's reply DOES reference the "phantom" greenhouse gases in ITN's hypothesis. Into the Night never did publish his discovery.
There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again.
Im a BM wrote:
trafn wrote:
Very nice summary Into The Night. The vibrational model of atoms, with electrons jumping into different orbital shells (farther out for energy absorption, closer in for energy release) does account for the their ability to hold and then emit energy during these diurnal-nocturnal cycles.
Air has mass, Robert. It takes time to heat or cool it, like any mass.
Im a BM wrote:
The problem with M2C2 (man-made climate change) is that we're playing with the chemistry of the atmosphere by raising the concentration of these gases which are in the air: CO2, methane, nitrous oxide, and water. In the meantime:
Climate cannot change. The presence of a gas or vapor is not chemistry.
Im a BM wrote:
1. The sun will continue to radiate more energy onto our planet, while...
Fine.
Im a BM wrote:
2. The atmospheric concentrations of phantom/GHG molecules continue to rise, causing...
No such thing as a greenhouse gas, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
3. The phantom/GHG molecules to retain even more solar energy through their atomic absorption-emission cycles, resulting in...
No gas or vapor has the capability to override the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which you are now ignoring.
3. The overall retained-energy content of the planet to rise, which will...[/quote]
Again you ignore the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You cannot heat a warmer surface with a colder object.
Im a BM wrote:
4. Melt all the ice and snow on the planet, after which...
It's not melting, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
5. All the planet's liquid water will evaporate up and off of the planet, leaving...
Not possible. You cannot create energy out of nothing, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
6. Earth as dry and lifeless as Venus.
Nope. Earth has liquid water.
Im a BM wrote:
FYI - keeping in mind that water vapor is a more powerful phantom/GHG than CO2, there is good reason to believe that this is exactly the kind of out of control process which destroyed Venus' atmosphere, and there's no reason it couldn't happen here.
The atmosphere of Venus is not destroyed.
You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap thermal energy.
You cannot heat a warmer object with a cold one.
The Parrot Killer
Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles
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| 04-05-2026 20:03 |
Im a BM★★★★★
(3283) |
Into the Night wrote:
Im a BM wrote:
In October 2015, Trafn responded to new member Into the Night's first post.
In the Spring of 2022 I got to see how Into the Night responded to new members. For two years I got to see many examples of how differently Into the Night behaved, compared to how Trafn did in this post. But then new members stopped joining about two years ago. 100% STOP, no new members attempting to discuss climate in two years now. Google stopped showing climate-debate.com prominently among search results for climate discussion websites.
New members won't join to listen to your spamming, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
Members who displayed common decency in discussion, such as Trafn, left the website. There used to be a lot of them.
Trafn didn't leave. He was banned.
Im a BM wrote:
Trafn didn't ridicule Into the Night's first post. Didn't accuse him of being a liar. Didn't tell him that he denies science. Didn't tell him that he is a scientifically illiterate moron. Common decency was the rule until about ten years ago.
Trafn denied the same science you do. You are a scientifically illiterate moron, pretending to be a scientist, all while denying theories of science.
Im a BM wrote:
It would have been EASY for Trafn to ridicule the "science" presented in Into the Night's first post. Trafn's reply DOES reference the "phantom" greenhouse gases in ITN's hypothesis. Into the Night never did publish his discovery.
There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again.
Im a BM wrote:
trafn wrote:
Very nice summary Into The Night. The vibrational model of atoms, with electrons jumping into different orbital shells (farther out for energy absorption, closer in for energy release) does account for the their ability to hold and then emit energy during these diurnal-nocturnal cycles.
Air has mass, Robert. It takes time to heat or cool it, like any mass.
Im a BM wrote:
The problem with M2C2 (man-made climate change) is that we're playing with the chemistry of the atmosphere by raising the concentration of these gases which are in the air: CO2, methane, nitrous oxide, and water. In the meantime:
Climate cannot change. The presence of a gas or vapor is not chemistry.
Im a BM wrote:
1. The sun will continue to radiate more energy onto our planet, while...
Fine.
Im a BM wrote:
2. The atmospheric concentrations of phantom/GHG molecules continue to rise, causing...
No such thing as a greenhouse gas, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
3. The phantom/GHG molecules to retain even more solar energy through their atomic absorption-emission cycles, resulting in...
No gas or vapor has the capability to override the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which you are now ignoring.
3. The overall retained-energy content of the planet to rise, which will...
Again you ignore the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You cannot heat a warmer surface with a colder object.
Im a BM wrote:
4. Melt all the ice and snow on the planet, after which...
It's not melting, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
5. All the planet's liquid water will evaporate up and off of the planet, leaving...
Not possible. You cannot create energy out of nothing, Robert.
Im a BM wrote:
6. Earth as dry and lifeless as Venus.
Nope. Earth has liquid water.
Im a BM wrote:
FYI - keeping in mind that water vapor is a more powerful phantom/GHG than CO2, there is good reason to believe that this is exactly the kind of out of control process which destroyed Venus' atmosphere, and there's no reason it couldn't happen here.
The atmosphere of Venus is not destroyed.
You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap thermal energy.
You cannot heat a warmer object with a cold one.[/quote]
Spam on, Brother! Spam on!
As soon as you drop another parrot poop on this thread you will have once again achieved a typical state for this website. There will be only one member name visible on the home page. Spamming across all 15 most recently active threads.
No wonder you are Branner's favorite. More spam than ANYONE.
Edited on 04-05-2026 20:04 |
| 04-05-2026 22:28 |
Into the Night★★★★★
(23897) |
Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
The atmosphere of Venus is not destroyed.
You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap thermal energy.
You cannot heat a warmer object with a cold one.
Spam on, Brother! Spam on!
As soon as you drop another parrot poop on this thread you will have once again achieved a typical state for this website. There will be only one member name visible on the home page. Spamming across all 15 most recently active threads.
No wonder you are Branner's favorite. More spam than ANYONE.
Inversion fallacy. Denial of science. Pivot fallacy.
The Parrot Killer
Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles
Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |